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Title: Gospel drums fills
Post by: Naturalborndrummer on February 01, 2007, 08:32:11 AM
Hi !!!

I'm from France and i play covers in a band (songs of The Mars Volta, Refused, JR Ewing : rock and hardcore bands).
But I just discovered gospel drummers and i saw Dennis Chambers in concert and these drummers are so talented and so musical.
I really want to learn it and to improve my playing but i don't know where to start !!!

I like what these guys do on these videos :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84L18lCtRk (look at the fills at 1min and at 2min19)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQNdEhz_yNg 

I don't understand how they build their fills (fast with some bass drums in it and so groovy). Could someone please explain me ?

Thanks a lot for your help

Naturalborndrummer
Title: Re: Gospel drums fills
Post by: 28MILTONS on February 01, 2007, 12:05:58 PM
start praying
Title: Re: Gospel drums fills
Post by: Cherri on February 01, 2007, 12:11:32 PM
Greetings!
Title: Re: Gospel drums fills
Post by: tko05 on February 01, 2007, 01:14:15 PM
Its not that hard If you can sing it you can play it!!! Constantly listen to whatever you want to do untill you know it by heart!!
Welcome and God bless!
Title: Re: Gospel drums fills
Post by: edough on February 01, 2007, 07:14:43 PM
start with the simple diddle lick I posted...
let me know if you got any questions
welcome!
Title: Re: Gospel drums fills
Post by: ny_drummer_85 on February 01, 2007, 11:46:27 PM
practice your rudiments with a metronome and create your fills buddy
Title: Re: Gospel drums fills
Post by: BigFoot_BigThumb on February 02, 2007, 11:05:35 PM
For me, I let the music, and the way the band is driving at a particular point dictate my fills.  Some are planned with the music, others are vibe-driven.  Sometimes I play fills that I cannot recreate for the life of me because I just felt it and went for it.  The drummer on this clip is cool and I like his groove for the most part, but he is far from playing some gospel on this clip.  That's some R&B stuff he's playing in the church.  And if he was playing with a band, he would be overplaying at some points.  But he is doing some nice fills in the clip.  I would say study some music, and listen to the whole band, not just the drums.  Vibe on the music, and apply the vibe to your playing.  Don't even think about the fills, just do them.  If you're vibing, they will come naturally. 
Title: Re: Gospel drums fills
Post by: juSe on February 03, 2007, 12:22:58 AM
Think 16th note triplets and groupings of 32nd notes.  Almost all of the fills this cat played are based off of the triplet.  This guy is most deffinitley smooth.  I like this guy! 
Title: Re: Gospel drums fills
Post by: SabianKnight on February 03, 2007, 12:22:08 PM
Hi !!!

I'm from France and i play covers in a band (songs of The Mars Volta, Refused, JR Ewing : rock and hardcore bands).
But I just discovered gospel drummers and i saw Dennis Chambers in concert and these drummers are so talented and so musical.
I really want to learn it and to improve my playing but i don't know where to start !!!

I like what these guys do on these videos :
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84L18lCtRk[/url] (look at the fills at 1min and at 2min19)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQNdEhz_yNg [/url]

I don't understand how they build their fills (fast with some bass drums in it and so groovy). Could someone please explain me ?

Thanks a lot for your help

Naturalborndrummer



The triplet feel or swing is the key to the grooves. Listen to Bernard Purdie, Jeff Porcaro, Dennis Chambers, JR Robinson playing . The triplet 16ths in fills come really from the swing of jazz (based off the African 6/8, 12/8). Just Apply triplet sixteenth to you 8th notes ie. 1 & = 1 ta ta & ta ta or a sextuplet grouping (6 - 16th notes played in the same space as 4(1e&a)) sounds like 1 trip let & trip let or 123 &23. you can approach this from the 12/8 stand point by dividing the 8th note triplet into 16th notes where as every 8th note equals 2 sixteenth notes therefore every quarter note equals 6 sixteenth notes. As a 12/8 you count it 1& 2& 3& 4& 5& 6& sev& 8& 9& 10& lev& 12& (the bold numbers represent the quarter note in 4/4 time).
Title: Re: Gospel drums fills
Post by: Cherri on February 03, 2007, 12:42:37 PM
The Knight returns. Teach! Teach! Teach!
Title: Re: Gospel drums fills
Post by: TightHands on February 03, 2007, 01:27:15 PM
Yo.....isnt that Calvin Fenner (Drumzalicious) in tha back?