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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Drummers => Topic started by: Eccentric-Rhythm on February 03, 2007, 06:54:44 AM
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For those who know. For those who have tried. Please, give me your honest reviews and thoughts on these 2 pedals. One will soon be mine....hahaha.
Thanks in Advance,
God Bless.
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Straight out of the box I have to say Axis. The Trick does not come dialed in at all. I was able to dial 2 Trick pedals in but it really needs a different beater. The secret to the Trick, i found, is to extend the beater full length to increase the throw... then you get a better balance.
Axis wins this one hands down.
You may want to wait on the new Iron Cobras which have the new 9000 cam (from the chrommies) or the new DW 8000 pedal which has the 9000 cam and the 5000 footboard but honeycombed. It is cheaper than the 9000.
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All I know is, don't let Cherri play your pedal, or hit your bass drum...
She kicked a whole straight through mine, and the impact from the explosion was enough to rip through the front head... :-\
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All I know is, don't let Cherri play your pedal, or hit your bass drum...
She kicked a whole straight through mine, and the impact from the explosion was enough to rip through the front head... :-\
What were you guys doing for her to kick a whole through your bass drum?? mmmhhhmmm.
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Thanks Sabe! That is very good info. I used to rock an Iron Cobra before getting my Eliminator. I loved it, but the Eliminator is a cut above. I anxiously await the new Cobras.
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All I know is, don't let Cherri play your pedal, or hit your bass drum...
She kicked a whole straight through mine, and the impact from the explosion was enough to rip through the front head... :-\
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What were you guys doing for her to kick a whole through your bass drum?? mmmhhhmmm.
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Thanks Sabe! That is very good info. I used to rock an Iron Cobra before getting my Eliminator. I loved it, but the Eliminator is a cut above. I anxiously await the new Cobras.
Only a true perv would interpret that as something sexual, lol...
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Caveat emptor: The direct drive is a totally different feel than that of a chain drive pedal. See if you could borrow one to test it out - that way, you'll know if you would be satisfied with the Axis or Trick for the longer haul. Both are extremely solid pedals, but as stated earlier, if the Trick had a factory setting (read: already 'dialed in' or a reference point, like the other pedals on the market), then it would be a really, really great pedal. In terms of engineering, the Trick tops the Axis from that aspect. I would say that Trick also has the edge on durability - well, at least from the materials that are used to make the Trick Pro 1-V.
The Iron Cobras... Well... We have the chrome model at our church, and it is not the best of pedals, but it is not the worst of pedals. I know that my commentary on the P900 cam is ambivalent, but that's the best way that I could describe it.
I thought that you were a Sonor guy. Go ahead and get the Giant Step if you are considering the Trick (they have a close price point).
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Only a true perv would interpret that as something sexual, lol...
Great Minds Think Alike. ;D
Thanks buzz. I do like the Giant Step. However, I was looking for a direct drive. I wanted to try something totally different. I have tried just about all other pedals on the market, and hadn't tried one of these yet. I have tried one of the original Axis pedals, and I must say I do like my Eliminator more. By the way, I am a huge Sonor fan, though I dont have a kit yet. I also support Ddrum and Pearl.
God Bless.
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Trick sucks!
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Trick sucks!
I agree with you on that point.
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...Hey "E", I'll be real with you man. Get neither one and buy the Sonor Giant Step. Jkay got rid of his Trick and bought the Giant Step and all I've been hearing from him are good things about the pedal. Leave those other two alone. 8)
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...Hey "E", I'll be real with you man. Get neither one and buy the Sonor Giant Step. Jkay got rid of his Trick and bought the Giant Step and all I've been hearing from him are good things about the pedal. Leave those other two alone. 8)
WOW. check your PM.
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...Check yours. ;D
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...Check yours. ;D
NO. I insist. check yours.
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I just put the the Limited Edition "Chrommies" - Iron Cobra doubles in the Lay-a-way at GC. Honestly that cam makes them erguably the best pedal out. You may want to wait til they ship the new Cobras which have this new cam.
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Honestly that cam makes them erguably the best pedal out.
Wouldn't that be a subjective statement? Arguably the best pedal out, in your opinion. Some people like the 9000, the 5000, the 7000, the Pro 1-V, the Axis Longboards, Flying Dragon, etc. You get my point, though.
To eliminate the confusion regarding this subject, the best thing to do is to try them out on your own. Everyone is going to be a proponent of a pedal that they own, and most of the repsondents are gonig to proclaim that X pedal is (arguably) the best pedal out on the market.
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...gentlemen we got it working. E-R is on his way to doing what he's supposed to do so that he can play on any pedal. ;)
...one small step for LGM and one Giant Step for E-R. ;D ;D ;D
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...gentlemen we got it working. E-R is on his way to doing what he's supposed to do so that he can play on any pedal. ;)
...one small step for LGM and one Giant Step for E-R. ;D ;D ;D
hahaha. very Subtle. thanks J.
And yes, I am weighing everyones opinions highly. and I am aware that the ultimate decision is my own. and to let the fam know, I have tried DW 9000, 5000, Yamaha Flying Dragons, Iron Cobras, Elminators, Gibraltars new pedal, the original Axis as well as a PDP and some no name ones. So, I have had my fair share of the "good" pedals. My current choice is the Eliminator but I am looking to broaden my horizon. JFunk has been of great assistance in that direction.
God Bless.
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hahaha. very Subtle. thanks J.
And yes, I am weighing everyones opinions highly. and I am aware that the ultimate decision is my own. and to let the fam know, I have tried DW 9000, 5000, Yamaha Flying Dragons, Iron Cobras, Elminators, Gibraltars new pedal, the original Axis as well as a PDP and some no name ones. So, I have had my fair share of the "good" pedals. My current choice is the Eliminator but I am looking to broaden my horizon. JFunk has been of great assistance in that direction.
God Bless.
I hear ya - the only reason that I stated that you should try them out yourself is based on the "I own this pedal and it's the best" campaign. That could turn into a never ending debacle. You'll love the Giant Step, especially the ingenious Docking Station (and the smooth action) - I wonder why no one has thought of that before.
And good for you to have tried out those pedals!
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I'm not trying to start a flame-war, but does it really matter? Before I knew their were other brands in existence, other than the pedal I played on at church, I worked with the pedal until I was able to do on it, what I capable of doing on any other pedal. I loved that challenge...
Keep in mind, I'm quite ignorant on this matter. I'm not a gear head in the least, even though their have been a few cats that have ....tickled my fancy on occassion.
Your thoughts?
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Hehe, their was a picture of a cat on my TV...
cats = kits
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I'm not trying to start a flame-war, but does it really matter? Before I knew their were other brands in existence, other than the pedal I played on at church, I worked with the pedal until I was able to do on it, what I capable of doing on any other pedal. I loved that challenge...
Keep in mind, I'm quite ignorant on this matter. I'm not a gear head in the least, even though their have been a few cats that have ....tickled my fancy on occassion.
Your thoughts?
...I grew up playing a Premier 252. That pedal is the equivalent to a '57 Chevy Bel Air in weight and smoothness. (I still have it but it's broken)
(http://eyesubmit.brinkster.net/Images/premier%20252.jpg)
In other words, your foot would definetly be worked out on that joka. I was always told that if you develop your foot correctly, you can play on any good pedal and some crappy ones. That's why all of the guys that I've spoken to about pedals advise me to work my foot out so that I can play on any pedal.
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...I grew up playing a Premier 252. That pedal is the equivalent to a '57 Chevy Bel Air in weight and smoothness. (I still have it but it's broken)
([url]http://eyesubmit.brinkster.net/Images/premier%20252.jpg[/url])
In other words, your foot would definetly be worked out on that joka. I was always told that if you develop your foot correctly, you can play on any good pedal and some crappy ones. That's why all of the guys that I've spoken to about pedals advise me to work my foot out so that I can play on any pedal.
Yeah, I know.
Well, at the end of the day, it's not the pedal but YOU. You have to develop the muscles and develop control - you just happen to be doing that via of a pedal. Even though I'm not a gear-head, and find excessive talk about gear nauseating, I am not one to think any ol' drum kit will do. I've heard some seriously terrible drums. Perhaps they could be tuned to sound half-decent, but I digress. I've just noticed that most of the obsessive gear-head seem to be the less-skilled. Sort of like how many people who are obsessed with purchasing certain expensive cars/automobiles are so, because they're trying to compensate for something they lack within. That's NOT to say that everyone who loves great gear can't play, and everyone who likes nice automobiles are shallow, lol. I thought I should clear that part up before someone goes into cardiac arrest...
However, I've definitely noticed a pattern.
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...I agree with you Div. I know what you mean but you definetly said it..... It's the younger or still developing crowd which I tend to be in from time to time.
...it's like that one guy that we all know that wants a Yamaha Motif ES 8 or a baby grand but only knows a few chords on his CASIO. That dude is like, "If I get this Motif ES 8, I'll sound just like Aaron Lyndsey." ;D
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I'm not trying to start a flame-war, but does it really matter? Before I knew their were other brands in existence, other than the pedal I played on at church, I worked with the pedal until I was able to do on it, what I capable of doing on any other pedal. I loved that challenge...
Keep in mind, I'm quite ignorant on this matter. I'm not a gear head in the least, even though their have been a few cats that have ....tickled my fancy on occassion.
Your thoughts?
I don't think that it really matters which pedal to get, but I do believe that you have to be comfortable playing on gear that you're planning to have for a while. I also believe in working with the pedal until you develop the technique necessary to replicate that on any pedal that you would play.
Now, if you're just 'pedal hopping', then that's a different story.
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Yeah, I know.
Well, at the end of the day, it's not the pedal but YOU. You have to develop the muscles and develop control - you just happen to be doing that via of a pedal. Even though I'm not a gear-head, and find excessive talk about gear nauseating, I am not one to think any ol' drum kit will do. I've heard some seriously terrible drums. Perhaps they could be tuned to sound half-decent, but I digress. I've just noticed that most of the obsessive gear-head seem to be the less-skilled. Sort of like how many people who are obsessed with purchasing certain expensive cars/automobiles are so, because they're trying to compensate for something they lack within. That's NOT to say that everyone who loves great gear can't play, and everyone who likes nice automobiles are shallow, lol. I thought I should clear that part up before someone goes into cardiac arrest...
However, I've definitely noticed a pattern.
Really good point!
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Get the Axis pedal ER. You know that's what I play and I am VERY HAPPY with my pedal. Axis handsdown.