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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Drummers => Topic started by: Hotsticks1 on April 23, 2007, 11:34:15 PM
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I was talking to my mentor Darneal Jackson the other day and he was explaining to me the difference between a "drummer" and "someone who just plays the drums". To make a long story short a "drummer" knows and has the will to further progress in his craft while a drum player just....plays. Then he mentioned that if you own a drum set or snare and dont know the type of wood you're playing on then you're most likely a "drum player".
So on the subject of wood I was wondering what you guys prefer to play on in terms of sound. I used to be a fan of the bright and warm tones of maple but I'm finding that I'm becoming more fond of the deep lows of Birch every time I touch a birch kit. I really want to play on Bubinga wood though, from what I'm hearing it's the new maple
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i started on a maple kit..so um...thats where i stand...but dont get it twisted bubinga aint no joke neither..to me it depends what type style of player u are...
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I was talking to my mentor Darneal Jackson the other day and he was explaining to me the difference between a "drummer" and "someone who just plays the drums". To make a long story short a "drummer" knows and has the will to further progress in his craft while a drum player just....plays. Then he mentioned that if you own a drum set or snare and dont know the type of wood you're playing on then you're most likely a "drum player".
So on the subject of wood I was wondering what you guys prefer to play on in terms of sound. I used to be a fan of the bright and warm tones of maple but I'm finding that I'm becoming more fond of the deep lows of Birch every time I touch a birch kit. I really want to play on Bubinga wood though, from what I'm hearing it's the new maple
Hmm.... This thread can easily take a turn for the worse. Althought I'm not going to jerk the steering wheel that way.
I also prefer the sound of birch and mahogany drums. Birch has great low end and plenty of attack. Mahogany is my drum of choice for straight ahead/bebop gig.
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I started on poplar... Haven't ventured too far from it (Not by choice).
Everytime I play wood that ain't poplar, I go out the back & grab a couple of tissues, have a little cry at what I'm missing then go back & get focused on the job.
Other than that, I'd love to one day really sit down & have a good listen to the different characteristics & pick out what moves me.
Side note: I find maple & bubinga to be interesting...
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I have a Maple Kit. I would love to try a Oak, Beech, Ash, Bubinga or even a Walnut Kit. As far as snare goes, I play an African Mahogany Snare. I love it. I am blown away at how diverse the tuning is on this thing.
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I was talking to my mentor Darneal Jackson the other day and he was explaining to me the difference between a "drummer" and "someone who just plays the drums". To make a long story short a "drummer" knows and has the will to further progress in his craft while a drum player just....plays. Then he mentioned that if you own a drum set or snare and dont know the type of wood you're playing on then you're most likely a "drum player".
So on the subject of wood I was wondering what you guys prefer to play on in terms of sound. I used to be a fan of the bright and warm tones of maple but I'm finding that I'm becoming more fond of the deep lows of Birch every time I touch a birch kit. I really want to play on Bubinga wood though, from what I'm hearing it's the new maple
...okay, first of all, tell your mentor that a "Drummer" and a "Drum Player" is the exact same thing. ;D What he means is a "Percussionist" vs. "Drummer". ;) Now, I'm not going to judge anyone because they don't know the wood types and characteristics of them. We have many beginners on the site so I understand and it's the Vets. job to teach. (as JHaynes would state)
...as for my preference in wood, right now I'm really digging Birch toms with a Maple kick drum. For an outdoor or even uunmiked situation/event, I would love to have the new Yamaha Oak Customs.
...by the way, Bubinga is not the new Maple. Bubinga is just different. Maple and Birch are still the most desired woods.
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I used to be a fan of the bright and warm tones of maple but I'm finding that I'm becoming more fond of the deep lows of Birch every time I touch a birch kit.
i've never heard anyone describe maple as bright AND warm before. . . ?/? it's also interesting to hear someone mention the deep lows of birch (as opposed to mahogany).
. . . but i digress.
to answer the question, i have 2 birch kits and the one at my church is mahogany. i love the 8", 10", and 12" birch toms. mahogany is a better choice for 13" and larger toms for me. i like a lot of sustain, and it seems, for some reason, that i get the most sustain from each of these woods in these respective diameters. plus i like my lower toms to sound "thunderous!!"
as far as snares go, i get the most ear-pleasing sound from maple snares. my favorites right now are my black panthers, and my tama artwood ltd. edition. all are maple.
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i've never heard anyone describe maple as bright AND warm before. . . it's also interesting to hear someone mention the deep lows of birch (as opposed to mahogany).
. . . but i digress.
to answer the question, i have 2 birch kits and the one at my church is mahogany. i love the 8", 10", and 12" birch toms. mahogany is a better choice for 13" and larger toms for me. i like a lot of sustain, and it seems, for some reason, that i get the most sustain from each of these woods in these respective diameters. plus i like my lower toms to sound "thunderous!!"
as far as snares go, i get the most ear-pleasing sound from maple snares. my favorites right now are my black panthers, and my tama artwood ltd. edition. all are maple.
Hey snareman what do you do to get a thunderous sound out of you lower lower toms? My 16" floor tom is Mahogany, and has the Oak outter ply...It has a nice sustain but I can really hear the tone of the drum!!! any suggestions?
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Hey snareman what do you do to get a thunderous sound out of you lower lower toms? My 16" floor tom is Mahogany, and has the Oak outter ply...It has a nice sustain but I can really hear the tone of the drum!!! any suggestions?
Once again...Your Mahogany is Phillipine Mahogany. Not African Mahogany. There is a huge difference. African Mahogany is the Warm Wood Characteristic that is being referred to.
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Well Ok then how can I get a low end thunderous tone out of my Phillipine Mahogany? Well since you know, fill me in EC..... I can't get the sound Im looking for... Is it the Head or Is it the drum its self? I like the kit but Im thinking about getting a 14 inch floor tom.... This may be a whole nother thread but I figured you could help me hear... :-\...
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Well Ok then how can I get a low end thunderous tone out of my Phillipine Mahogany? Well since you know, fill me in EC..... I can't get the sound Im looking for... Is it the Head or Is it the drum its self? I like the kit but Im thinking about getting a 14 inch floor tom.... This may be a whole nother thread but I figured you could help me hear... :-\...
...get rid of the Phillipine Mahagony kit. lol There's really nothing else you can do doc'. All you can do is tune it to the best of "its" ability and that's it.
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Well Ok then how can I get a low end thunderous tone out of my Phillipine Mahogany? Well since you know, fill me in EC..... I can't get the sound Im looking for... Is it the Head or Is it the drum its self? I like the kit but Im thinking about getting a 14 inch floor tom.... This may be a whole nother thread but I figured you could help me hear... :-\...
What heads do you have on it now? How do you have it tuned?
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What heads do you have on it now? How do you have it tuned?
since the original questioned was asked. . . TO ME!!!!!! :P
just playin' fellas. y'all really said the stuff i was gonna say. probably the most important question is what kind of head do you have on the drum now? i have heard some phillipine mahogany (luann, if you will) that had a decent sound to it, because someone had taken the time to tune it and had good heads on it.
I use either Remo Ambassadors or Emperors. I used to use Emperors a long time ago, but I switched to Ambassadors. recently i bought an add-on tom and put an Emperor on it just to experiment, and it sounded audibly warmer than the Ambassadors on the other toms. so the next time i buy heads, i'm gonna get Emperors and use those again for a while.
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oh, yeah. Evans=dookey!!!!
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oh, yeah. Evans=dookey!!!!
You have just been added to my prayer list. ;D ;D
Well Ok then how can I get a low end thunderous tone out of my Phillipine Mahogany? Well since you know, fill me in EC..... I can't get the sound Im looking for... Is it the Head or Is it the drum its self? I like the kit but Im thinking about getting a 14 inch floor tom.... This may be a whole nother thread but I figured you could help me hear... :-\...
Notice the Bold and Underlined words...that would be directed to me. 8) Thats why I answered.
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since the original questioned was asked. . . TO ME!!!!!! :P
just playin' fellas. y'all really said the stuff i was gonna say. probably the most important question is what kind of head do you have on the drum now? i have heard some phillipine mahogany (luann, if you will) that had a decent sound to it, because someone had taken the time to tune it and had good heads on it.
I use either Remo Ambassadors or Emperors. I used to use Emperors a long time ago, but I switched to Ambassadors. recently i bought an add-on tom and put an Emperor on it just to experiment, and it sounded audibly warmer than the Ambassadors on the other toms. so the next time i buy heads, i'm gonna get Emperors and use those again for a while.
...that's what I have on the Pearl kit at the church....Clear Emperors over Clear Ambassadors. Nothing better. Durable and the tone is always there. 8)
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...get rid of the Phillipine Mahagony kit. lol There's really nothing else you can do doc'. All you can do is tune it to the best of "its" ability and that's it.
lol
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I have phillipine mahagony too (yamaha Rydeen kit) you cant do much wit it lol
imma try the birth/bubinga kit from tama (performer kit)
anyone know how that sounds???
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I have a yamaha stage custom Advantage Nouveau, made of birch, some phillipine mahogany and a lil Falkata.
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I have a yamaha stage custom Advantage Nouveau, made of birch, some phillipine mahogany and a lil Falkata.
I have the same kit but with oak instead of Birch!! But I still have the Falkata and Mahogany... Its sound good for a Mid-level Kit!!....
What heads do you have on it now? How do you have it tuned?
I have Clear G2's on it now.... Should I go for something a little more controlled and warm like a coated G2?... I also Have stock reso heads on it also!!!
...get rid of the Phillipine Mahagony kit. lol There's really nothing else you can do doc'. All you can do is tune it to the best of "its" ability and that's it.
Its a great kit though man!!!.... C'mon I got the Kit for $450 I couldnt pass that deal up..... Im not working now so its kind of hard for me to save up a buy a kit like you guys do.... When I make a few bucks I will upgrade but for now my Stage Custom will have to do!!..
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OK I am gonna get hung for this and thats ok. It is a misconception that a G2 coated head is a warm head. Its just simply not true. Now before the stones start flying at me...please check this out:
http://evansdrumheads.com/EVAProductsDS.aspx?ID=13 (http://evansdrumheads.com/EVAProductsDS.aspx?ID=13)
I am currently experimenting with a combo that has never been discussed on here before and I must say, so far, I'm in Love!
My best advice to you is this...experiment. With tuning and head selection. If the heads are too expensive, then mess with tuning. Get your Reso head a little tighter than your batter. Both just past wrinkled. If you need more info or details, pm me.
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I really preferr the sound of birch over maple. I try to make myself get into the maple kits but I just can't bring myself to buy them over birch. I also like the sound of Bapeva wood. If you don't know which company uses that type of wood do your research. Just playing (RMV). I would like to experiment with ash as well ( note the avatar). I know GMS has an ash kit that I would like to hear in person.
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I really preferr the sound of birch over maple. I try to make myself get into the maple kits but I just can't bring myself to buy them over birch. I also like the sound of Bapeva wood. If you don't know which company uses that type of wood do your research. Just playing (RMV). I would like to experiment with ash as well ( note the avatar). I know GMS has an ash kit that I would like to hear in person.
Can you really tell the difference between a maple and a birch kit by listening? I cant.
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Can you really tell the difference between a maple and a birch kit by listening? I cant.
Unprocessed and unEQ'ed...?
almost immediately.
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Can you really tell the difference between a maple and a birch kit by listening? I cant.
Take a cetain size tom and use the same heads on both lets say a ten inch and make sure you tune them equally. The Maple tom will sound brighter somwhat louder in a sense, and more rounded, while with birch, it's sort of deeper and more resonant. Birch is just a sexy tone man straight up...
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...okay, first of all, tell your mentor that a "Drummer" and a "Drum Player" is the exact same thing. ;D What he means is a "Percussionist" vs. "Drummer". ;) Now, I'm not going to judge anyone because they don't know the wood types and characteristics of them. We have many beginners on the site so I understand and it's the Vets. job to teach. (as JHaynes would state)
Hol up, hol up, now come on now JFunky no disrespect but me and you are probably from two different parts of the country. It's all a matter of terminology, not to say whats right or isnt. To sum things up a person who plays and knows and understands their craft is what we refer to as a "drummer". When we say someone is a "drum player", we refer to someone that may play but knows nothing about what they are doing, and dont get it twisted there's alot of Nice "drum players" They just dont have a lot of knowledge about what they're doin...They just...play
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Hol up, hol up, now come on now JFunky no disrespect but me and you are probably from two different parts of the country. It's all a matter of terminology, not to say whats right or isnt. To sum things up a person who plays and knows and understands their craft is what we refer to as a "drummer". When we say someone is a "drum player", we refer to someone that may play but knows nothing about what they are doing, and dont get it twisted there's alot of Nice "drum players" They just dont have a lot of knowledge about what they're doin...They just...play
...drumming is one language dawg. Whether you're in Cali. or I'm in Florida, it's all one. I understand what your mentor is saying doc'. If you read Modern Drummer Mag. and any other Drum Mag. you will notice that this term is used often; Drumset Musician vs. Drummer. It's not that deep though man. Your mentor knows what he's talking about. 8)
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Unprocessed and unEQ'ed...?
almost immediately.
Take a cetain size tom and use the same heads on both lets say a ten inch and make sure you tune them equally. The Maple tom will sound brighter somwhat louder in a sense, and more rounded, while with birch, it's sort of deeper and more resonant. Birch is just a sexy tone man straight up...
That's not what I asked.
Can you walk into a room and hear a random drumset and tell if its maple, birch or whatever?
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...with maple and birch, sometimes you can't. When Birch drums age, they too tend to have characteristics similar to Maple. (More Sustain, Warm Sound, Nice Attack) If it were Bubinga; yes. Bubinga has a certain signature characteristic about 'em.
...I think that in some cases the differences are heard when you're in the studio or in a mic'ed up situation.
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i love the sound of maple, i have a Mapex Pro M, but i really like birch just as much, maybe a little more. and like someone else said ive never someone say that maple is brighter than birch and birch is deeper than maple.
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I prefer Maple over Birch. I just like warm sounding drums. Birch is cool though. That's what I use at my church. We have a Yamaha Recording Custom. I just need to change the heads. I'll be getting some clear Remo Emperorsfor the top and clear ambassadors for the bottom. Also the EMAD II with the EMAD Resonant or the EQ3 for the bass drum. Can't wait. God Bless.
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Take a cetain size tom and use the same heads on both lets say a ten inch and make sure you tune them equally. The Maple tom will sound brighter somwhat louder in a sense, and more rounded, while with birch, it's sort of deeper and more resonant. Birch is just a sexy tone man straight up...
...man, let me help you....
Maple - it has smooth mid's and high's with slightly boosted low end frequencies. (Resonant wood shell)
Birch - it has boosted high frequencies with a slight reduction on the mid's and a nice
low end. That's why this wood is good if you need your drums to cut (great attack)
and have more presence. (Low Resonance Level)
African Mahagony - Great low end frequencies with smooth mid's and reduced high frequencies. This wood
gives you a great "Thunderous Lows" and if you're whole kit is made out of this, you'll
have that old skool, stank, funk sound. lol (Great for floor toms and bass drums)
Oak - This wood is very projective. This is the "Loud and Bright" wood. Great for unmiked
situations.
...Birch drums are desired in the studio because they provide more attack and don't have that much resonance as a Maple shell drum. To say that Birch is more resonant than Maple is really not correct.
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That's not what I asked.
Can you walk into a room and hear a random drumset and tell if its maple, birch or whatever?
Valid question. Just put it like this, if I walk into a room and hear a kit (excluding low budget/mid budget kits) and I don't like the sound, I can almost guarantee that it's maple. ;D
Just kidding. But for real, with close examination of both the woods not knowing which one is which, I'll most likelu pick the Birch kit. I do it all the time. I'll go to a music store or something of sort, start playing the different kits and gravitate to one particular kit and after further examination I find out it's a birch kit. It happens to me all the time.
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Hey are you bashing us guys who cant afford those Maple kits?...lol.. J/k... I wish i was able to talk about this topic with you guys but... I dont own great kits like you guys.... :'( :-\... The only thing I can discuss with you guys Is Oak.... My Musashi I very loud as JFunky said... And it has bright characteristics.... Like Funky said Oak is great for Un miced playing situations....
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What's your wood?
Whatever sounds good to my ears, and what compliments the music the most. I know that it sounds cliche, but it's the truth.
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Can you really tell the difference between a maple and a birch kit by listening? I cant.
Yes.
Unprocessed and unEQ'ed...?
almost immediately.
You know i can prove it to you.
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Yes.
You know i can prove it to you.
LOL!!!!
you just got lucky one time! shut your mouth!!! :P
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Well, since I am a Yamaha fan, I like the absolute maple. That has a wonderful.
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Well, since I am a Yamaha fan, I like the absolute maple. That has a wonderful.
Welcome to LGM! Introduce yourself and type hard so that the vets can understand you! ;D
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Can you really tell the difference between a maple and a birch kit by listening? I cant.
that's what I wonder sometimes. once everything is mic'd, eq'd, and processed in the studio, who really knows? i started to put some music on here, and ask everyone what size and material was the snare, and what material were the toms and kick. But i never could figure out how to upload music on here. when i figure it out, i may still do it.
...man, let me help you....
Maple - it has smooth mid's and high's with slightly boosted low end frequencies. (Resonant wood shell)
Birch - it has boosted high frequencies with a slight reduction on the mid's and a nice
low end. That's why this wood is good if you need your drums to cut (great attack)
and have more presence. (Low Resonance Level)
African Mahagony - Great low end frequencies with smooth mid's and reduced high frequencies. This wood
gives you a great "Thunderous Lows" and if you're whole kit is made out of this, you'll
have that old skool, stank, funk sound. lol (Great for floor toms and bass drums)
Oak - This wood is very projective. This is the "Loud and Bright" wood. Great for unmiked
situations.
...Birch drums are desired in the studio because they provide more attack and don't have that much resonance as a Maple shell drum. To say that Birch is more resonant than Maple is really not correct.
this is why i was questioning the descriptive words that some were using to explain why they like each wood. bright is not usually used to describe maple, and warm is not usually used to describe birch. i didn't wanna start a fight, though. i just thought it was kinda odd.
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...you can upload stuff through LGM but it has to be original stuff. ;)
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...drumming is one language dawg. Whether you're in Cali. or I'm in Florida, it's all one. I understand what your mentor is saying doc'. If you read Modern Drummer Mag. and any other Drum Mag. you will notice that this term is used often; Drumset Musician vs. Drummer. It's not that deep though man. Your mentor knows what he's talking about. 8)
I hear you doc ;D
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that's what I wonder sometimes. once everything is mic'd, eq'd, and processed in the studio, who really knows? i started to put some music on here, and ask everyone what size and material was the snare, and what material were the toms and kick. But i never could figure out how to upload music on here. when i figure it out, i may still do it.
this is why i was questioning the descriptive words that some were using to explain why they like each wood. bright is not usually used to describe maple, and warm is not usually used to describe birch. i didn't wanna start a fight, though. i just thought it was kinda odd.
Yeah you should definately upload some music cause Im sick of everyone tryin to act like they can instantly tell the difference! I will upload a clip and give $100 to the first person who guesses what shells Im using! No mics. No eq. raw drums! Who's up for the challenge?
I will send the video to JFunky so that he can see the set and the shells. Then I will upload the audio from the video so that you guys can guess the shells. What do you think J? And I promise to give another $100 to the person who can tell me what heads I'm using!
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Good idea.
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Yeah you should definately upload some music cause Im sick of everyone tryin to act like they can instantly tell the difference! I will upload a clip and give $100 to the first person who guesses what shells Im using! No mics. No eq. raw drums! Who's up for the challenge?
I will send the video to JFunky so that he can see the set and the shells. Then I will upload the audio from the video so that you guys can guess the shells. What do you think J? And I promise to give another $100 to the person who can tell me what heads I'm using!
Shoot. I'm down for it!
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What are the characteristics of basswood & phillipine mahogany? Seriously.
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Yeah you should definately upload some music cause Im sick of everyone tryin to act like they can instantly tell the difference! I will upload a clip and give $100 to the first person who guesses what shells Im using! No mics. No eq. raw drums! Who's up for the challenge?
I will send the video to JFunky so that he can see the set and the shells. Then I will upload the audio from the video so that you guys can guess the shells. What do you think J? And I promise to give another $100 to the person who can tell me what heads I'm using!
...that sounds cool but don't throw your money like that big pimpin'. Gas prices are expensive and so are drumsheads. lol
...I'm down though. Let's do this man. This ought to be fun.
What are the characteristics of basswood & phillipine mahogany? Seriously.
...the characteristics are "cheap sounding drums". lol
...Seriously...it will still be a phillipine mahogony type of sound. You know, ringy and many overtones. The basswood is used as filler wood but the dominant wood will still be the P.M.
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...the characteristics are "cheap sounding drums". lol
...Seriously...it will still be a phillipine mahogony type of sound. You know, ringy and many overtones. The basswood is used as filler wood but the dominant wood will still be the P.M.
So, it's pretty much the same as poplar? Speaking of which, what kind of poplar is used in Exports?
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(in my best lil john voice) OOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!! Its on!!! :D
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So, it's pretty much the same as poplar? Speaking of which, what kind of poplar is used in Exports?
(http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/c/ca/Jon_heder_napoleon_dynamite_interview_top.jpg)
...100% Poplar, what do ya think!? Gosh!! ;D ;D
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...100% Poplar, what do ya think!? Gosh!! ;D ;D
Massive ;D
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Lol... come on JFunky. I just wanted to know if there was any particular difference in variations of poplar (Or if there ARE variants of poplar).
E.g. If they use african & phillipine mahogany... can the same be said for the likes of poplar? That's all I wanted know...
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...dude, seriously.....I don't know. Poplar is at the bottom of the pole buddy. I'm not even going to do research on it. ;D ;D
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Alright Fre...here ya go:
Poplar:
Poplar is derived from fast growing straight medium hardwood trees and is a less expensive alternative to Birch and Maple. Its finish can be somewhat green in color and is therefore used in the inner ply layers as substitute for more expensive and less plentiful woods. It takes on more of the tone of birch or mahogany than maple.
Basswood:
Basswood is a great less expensive hardwood that mimics the sound of Maple to some, mahogany to others. Yet it is more plentiful and gives the manufacturer a price advantage. It in many ways is an upgrade to luaan, or ramin and is often used as a core wood with a bit more of the lower register tone to it than realized out of maple. Its more like mahogany than maple.
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...dude, seriously.....I don't know. Poplar is at the bottom of the pole buddy. I'm not even going to do research on it. ;D ;D
Thanks JFunky. ;D
Alright Fre...here ya go:
Poplar:
Poplar is derived from fast growing straight medium hardwood trees and is a less expensive alternative to Birch and Maple. Its finish can be somewhat green in color and is therefore used in the inner ply layers as substitute for more expensive and less plentiful woods. It takes on more of the tone of birch or mahogany than maple.
Basswood:
Basswood is a great less expensive hardwood that mimics the sound of Maple to some, mahogany to others. Yet it is more plentiful and gives the manufacturer a price advantage. It in many ways is an upgrade to luaan, or ramin and is often used as a core wood with a bit more of the lower register tone to it than realized out of maple. Its more like mahogany than maple.
Lol... Thanks ER. I was really trying to find a way to justify the wood in my Export... ;D looks like the only justification is upgrading hehe...
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...lmbo@Freddy and E-R. I guess one man's junk is another one's treasure. lol
....by the way, if you find an older Export made from Mahagony, buy it and keep it. I've heard many stories on how those are way better than the Poplar ones. ;) There were even a few pro's that have used them on Live gigs. :o
...I think Sticksinmypocket has one of those. :-\
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...lmbo@Freddy and E-R. I guess one man's junk is another one's treasure. lol
....by the way, if you find an older Export made from Mahagony, buy it and keep it. I've heard many stories on how those are way better than the Poplar ones. ;) There were even a few pro's that have used them on Live gigs. :o
...I think Sticksinmypocket has one of those. :-\
Well, the kit that I bought from a guy told me that he played it in a live gig a few times and he loved it!! Now If I wasnt just a church drummer I would invest in a nice high-end kit but why would I need one if Im not doing anything out of the ordinary? Is poplar the same thing a Mahogany? :-\ :D....
Dont bash me guys... ;D
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Why not invest in something nice? Aren't you worth it?
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Well my kit is All Birch, But my SNARES are made of, Birch, Maple, Cherry/Maple,and 100% Oak.
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Why not invest in something nice? Aren't you worth it?
Hey J-kay I don't have a job.. Im in the process of that now but until then Ill have to deal with what I got... But im not complaining because I am blessed to have a decent kit because alot of kits i see are pretty bad... I am worth it but I just cant afford it right now.. u know!!? :-\ :)
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Why not invest in something nice? Aren't you worth it?
Now thats....a STATEMENT! and AMEN, I'm worth it! lol. ;D ;D ;D
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...lmbo@Freddy and E-R. I guess one man's junk is another one's treasure. lol
....by the way, if you find an older Export made from Mahagony, buy it and keep it. I've heard many stories on how those are way better than the Poplar ones. ;) There were even a few pro's that have used them on Live gigs. :o
...I think Sticksinmypocket has one of those. :-\
Hmmm... Yo! sticksinmypocket you still need yours? ;D
Thanks for the heads up. I'm gonna check out ebay etc. What range of years (ie the 80s, 90s, earlier?) am I after that will guarantee Mahogany Exports?
ER put me onto the Tamburo ASH kit & it seems interesting...
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Why not invest in something nice? Aren't you worth it?
Massive.
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Hmmm... Yo! sticksinmypocket you still need yours? ;D
Thanks for the heads up. I'm gonna check out ebay etc. What range of years (ie the 80s, 90s, earlier?) am I after that will guarantee Mahogany Exports?
ER put me onto the Tamburo ASH kit & it seems interesting...
Tamburo is easy for you to come by...However, JFunk and I feel the same way, I'd rather have a GMS or a Ddrum Ash. Being that you live on another planet ;D, I mean live in a remote location, you gotta work with what you got.
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Well, the kit that I bought from a guy told me that he played it in a live gig a few times and he loved it!! Now If I wasnt just a church drummer I would invest in a nice high-end kit but why would I need one if Im not doing anything out of the ordinary? Is poplar the same thing a Mahogany? :-\ :D....
Dont bash me guys... ;D
...dude, you're not reading the posts are you? E-R just stated the difference between the woods. lol
...Pay Attention. ;D ;D
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I know what ER said but I was also refering to a post that I didnt reply to earlier...Someone said to get rid of the Phil.Mahogany kit :-\.. I was just saying that I didnt think that I should invest into a highend kit when I dont need to... also I was responding to what you Said about how guys have played Exports..ect. in live gigs... I do read the post... ;D :D
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Is poplar the same thing a Mahogany? :-\ :D....
Poplar:
Poplar is derived from fast growing straight medium hardwood trees and is a less expensive alternative to Birch and Maple. Its finish can be somewhat green in color and is therefore used in the inner ply layers as substitute for more expensive and less plentiful woods. It takes on more of the tone of birch or mahogany than maple.
Basswood:
Basswood is a great less expensive hardwood that mimics the sound of Maple to some, mahogany to others. Yet it is more plentiful and gives the manufacturer a price advantage. It in many ways is an upgrade to luaan, or ramin and is often used as a core wood with a bit more of the lower register tone to it than realized out of maple. Its more like mahogany than maple.
I do read the post... ;D :D
;D ;D ;D
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watch ur mouth hotsticks don't get a hothead...lol... i kno darneal personally he's crazy coo and a nasty "drummer'' and 4 da past few months i've been making the 45 min drive 2 go to 'cuse & talk to him every so often 2 get advice from him myself...u gotta b hungry 4 it if ur hollaring at catz like "d"!
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watch ur mouth hotsticks don't get a hothead...lol... i kno darneal personally he's crazy coo and a nasty "drummer'' and 4 da past few months i've been making the 45 min drive 2 go to 'cuse & talk to him every so often 2 get advice from him myself...u gotta b hungry 4 it if ur hollaring at catz like "d"!
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... "What is you talkin' bout?"
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What in great Texas is this boy saying now???
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Now thats....a STATEMENT! and AMEN, I'm worth it! lol. ;D ;D ;D
I'm worth it too. I just hope someone else thinks I'm worth it and go ahead and bless a man of God. Feel me? :D
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I'm worth it too. I just hope someone else thinks I'm worth it and go ahead and bless a man of God. Feel me? :D
...dawg, God knows what we do and how we do it. When the time is right, He'll do it. *Singing like that lil' girl on Fred Hammonds Latest DVD* ;D
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Maybe your right JFunky...??? ::) :-[.... ::) ?/?...Maybe I as day dreaming or something...haha...
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Ok Fam! Let the games begin!!!
Here's the audio first. After everyone's guesses, I will post the video that matches the audio. Have fun!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/15/647233/004-drum%20shell%20test.wma (http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/15/647233/004-drum%20shell%20test.wma)
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Ok Fam! Let the games begin!!!
Here's the audio first. After everyone's guesses, I will post the video that matches the audio. Have fun!
[url]http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/15/647233/004-drum%20shell%20test.wma[/url] ([url]http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/15/647233/004-drum%20shell%20test.wma[/url])
I never said I could tell the difference....but I'm going to try. Birch???...hehe IDK
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They sound like drums to me!!! :P ::) ;D..Ill take a Wild Guess...I mean a Jungle book guess too!!...Ill say.....Maple??? IDK??? Beats me...
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Hey guys I'm about to buy a Ddrum kit. I got the money but the only thing is that I can't make up my mind on which one to get. Maple or Ash. I know how maple sounds and I love it but I haven't played on a Ddrum Ash kit before. I hear a lot of good things about the Ash kit but I'm not going to buy it based on what I hear from people. I want to try it for myself. or at least hear it. Anybody got any video or audio of a Ash kit??? Thanks...God Bless
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Hey guys I'm about to buy a Ddrum kit. I got the money but the only thing is that I can't make up my mind on which one to get. Maple or Ash. I know how maple sounds and I love it but I haven't played on a Ddrum Ash kit before. I hear a lot of good things about the Ash kit but I'm not going to buy it based on what I hear from people. I want to try it for myself. or at least hear it. Anybody got any video or audio of a Ash kit??? Thanks...God Bless
I own a Ddrum Maple kit. I would say get the Ash. But, I dont have proof. just what I own...