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Title: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: jeremyr on May 07, 2007, 02:47:03 PM
Well this past Sabbath my worst nightmare came true.  I brought my axes into the sanctuary as usual and then went to grab my Amp.  As I approaced where my cab usual stands I realized that it wasn't there.  I then went up to the pastor and ask him if the church had been broken into this past week and sure enough it was.  The only thing stolen out of the church was my 4ohm Black tolex Avatar 410 neo.  I couldn't believe it.  I'm still kind of in dismay that people sink as low as to break into a church.  The church re-imbursed me and I'm getting another cab, but I just still can't believe that they stole my cab. 

The church thought nothing was stolen because they never really mess with my stuff and thye just checked for the house speakers, but I got got.

If anyone in the Chicago area knows anything about this please let me know.  I'm not looking to press charges, but I'd rather get my cab back and give the church back the money for my cab so that it can be used elsewhere in the church.

God will work everything out I know, but man it sure is depressing when people break into the lords house.  I remember when there was a time when even if you didn't believe in God you still had a respect.

People rest assured that these are signs that the end draws near!!!
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: Torch7 on May 07, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
That's rough!  It's a sad testimony...

Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: Keys410 on May 07, 2007, 03:04:15 PM
Man this is sad how people do some stupid stuff..I know when my church moved into our old building somone came in to fix the windows and they stole my fender jazz bass. I thought I left it at home or something but reality kicked in and it was gone. Hope you get it back either that or God blesses you with a better one. I would call the local pawn shops or music stores to see if they recently got one.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: MikeGee on May 07, 2007, 03:12:30 PM
Ouch. This is part of the reason why I am considereing musical gear insurance.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: bassthumpa on May 07, 2007, 03:20:05 PM
Sorry man!  It's crazy that your amp was the only thing that was stolen.  I hope the person(s) responsible get caught... but even if they don't, like my pastor would say, they might get by, but they won't get away!  God will have the final say.

+1 to the suggestion of checking local pawn shops.  Keep your eyes on ebay and craigslist too.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: jeremyr on May 07, 2007, 03:42:15 PM
Man this is sad how people do some stupid stuff..I know when my church moved into our old building somone came in to fix the windows and they stole my fender jazz bass. I thought I left it at home or something but reality kicked in and it was gone. Hope you get it back either that or God blesses you with a better one. I would call the local pawn shops or music stores to see if they recently got one.

The messed up thing with pawn shops in chciago is that there's litereally about 500 of them.  it's almost pointless.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: jeremyr on May 07, 2007, 03:48:55 PM
Ouch. This is part of the reason why I am considering musical gear insurance.

You know I think i'll have to invest on this.  I never thought about it.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: browntree on May 07, 2007, 04:58:11 PM
You know you're a bass player when... cats break into the church, steal your stuff, and the church don't even know it was gone!!! That's some mess that would happen at my church... lols...

It's good you're getting reimbursed.  That's cool...
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: bigneil on May 07, 2007, 06:12:43 PM
Man I can only imagine how you feel. The hair on my arms stands when kids in my church mistake my cab for a hiding place and bump into it. The word says touch not my anointed and he will have the final say in this matter. Keep your head up. Peace.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: browntree on May 07, 2007, 07:11:03 PM
Hey this sounds like an inside job... why in the world would they take only your cabinet and not the monitors?  Somebody's been peepin your cabinet... everybody at church ain't saved!
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: Groovesmith on May 07, 2007, 07:27:36 PM
That breaks my heart too.  A few years back our main bassist at the time was bringing in his gear but I was already up at the front with my bass so he left it downstairs in one of the Sunday school classes and some one gripped it during service it was the baddest Spector he got it back by checking pawn shops close by church.

I am praying for you.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: jeremyr on May 07, 2007, 08:11:55 PM
Hey this sounds like an inside job... why in the world would they take only your cabinet and not the monitors?  Somebody's been peepin your cabinet... everybody at church ain't saved!

I doubt it was an inside job.

Before I made my church my home church apparently the church had be broken into once or twice before and in fact they had stolen some monitors and house speakers, so the church wised up and bolted everything down to the ground.  You can't get them out unless you have some kind of power tool or a cutting tool.

Unfortunately since the cab was my personal cab I twas not bolted down and was just sitting up next to the choir stand on the platform. 

Now the sad thing is that the same day that my speaker was stolen one of the kids in the church came up to the musicians area and straight up took the drummers brand new hat and ran of with it before he knew it was gone. I just happeend to be loading my axe's into my trunk when they came out the side door twirling the hat and putting it in a car that immediately took off.  We knew who did it, but that's not the worst part. They tried to say that they didn't have it, but i was looking right at them and the drummers friend watched them too.  I mean they came without 1 foot of me and then tried to deny it. 

It's sad when you can't even really trust your church folks. 

From this day on I'll be taking my cab home with me.  I use to do it and I guess I got a little to comfortable.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: craigory on May 07, 2007, 09:00:48 PM
My total sympathy goes out to you.

One of my biggest fears is having equipment stolen. I do leave my cabinet at the church (I play every Sunday)
but always take my "brain" (the amplifier). God will restore and when he does... doesn't He do it abundantly??

You will be OK
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: DWBass on May 07, 2007, 09:02:36 PM
Man, that is so foul!! I do hope you get your cab back!
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: Mysteryman on May 08, 2007, 12:24:06 PM
Too bad we cant use fistacuffs. Sorry to hear that. Im guessing the church is on a rough side of town. Sounds like the church should have had better security with doors and windows.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: jeremyr on May 08, 2007, 01:07:06 PM
Too bad we cant use fistacuffs. Sorry to hear that. Im guessing the church is on a rough side of town. Sounds like the church should have had better security with doors and windows.


THe church is on the westside, but not necessarily in a rough part of town. 

They do have a security system, but with it being a historical building they can't just pop out the widows and replace them.   From what I father they broke into a small window that leads to the basement and from there they busted a hole in a wall to get to where they needed to go. 
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: Andrzej on May 08, 2007, 05:39:30 PM
Oh man...that's harsh!  We know that we live in a wicked world when someone has the lack of morals to break into a church.  I have had equipment and basses stolen from venues on tour, but never from my church.  I pray that god will touch them.  I pray that they have taken some of god's power and grace with the equipment that they have stolen and they will be delivered from their sins.  It really is a true testomony that you have forgiven them.  God will provide when he blesses and annoints you Jeremyr.  Whether it be the rig or the money, he will bring it to you.

Keep the faith friend...I'll be praying for you and your church.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: BimmerFan99 on May 08, 2007, 06:49:19 PM
That really sucks, man!  I'm at the point where I'm just now starting to acquire gear, and I'm quite protective of it!  This just reinforces my protectiveness!  I have never left any equipment at the church no matter how difficult it is to move in and out.  If it's too difficult to move, then I just don't take it.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: ddwilkins on May 08, 2007, 06:51:33 PM
This is very unfortunate.  For this reason, I take my equipment with me at all times.  the only place i leave it alone is at home.  I never leave it at church.  I know the church is suppose to be a safe place, but this is an example of how the world is changing.  Just let us know when you're back pounding the low end.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: jeremyr on May 08, 2007, 09:56:11 PM
This is very unfortunate.  For this reason, I take my equipment with me at all times.  the only place i leave it alone is at home.  I never leave it at church.  I know the church is suppose to be a safe place, but this is an example of how the world is changing.  Just let us know when you're back pounding the low end.


I put in a order for my new cab today.

4ohm Aguilar DB410.


http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_db410.htm
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: ddwilkins on May 08, 2007, 10:12:25 PM
I put in a order for my new cab today.

4ohm Aguilar DB410.


[url]http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_db410.htm[/url]



Why aguilar this time?
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: malthumb on May 08, 2007, 10:19:02 PM
Wow.  That is just plain sad.  Glad to see that you are moving on and replacing it quickly.

The idea of insurance is certainly a good one.  The policy I have covers all my gear for REPLACEMENT value.  Replacement value is more than what I have paid in total for all my stuff.  My policy costs just over $200 a year.  That is the price for peace of mind.

Peace,

James
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: jeremyr on May 08, 2007, 10:32:11 PM
Why aguilar this time?

It's what Maurice Fitzgerald recommened to me and actually what he's using.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: MikeGee on May 09, 2007, 04:05:17 PM
I put in a order for my new cab today.

4ohm Aguilar DB410.


[url]http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_db410.htm[/url]




100lbs cab. does it come with wheels you gonna put wheels on it?
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: bassthumpa on May 09, 2007, 05:18:18 PM
It's what Maurice Fitzgerald recommened to me and actually what he's using.

Have you actually played through an Aguilar rig before?  If so, how would you describe them?


100lbs cab. does it come with wheels you gonna put wheels on it?

Pretty hefty... but if it's pretty much going to be stationary I wouldn't worry so much about putting wheels/casters on it.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: jeremyr on May 09, 2007, 05:21:58 PM

100lbs cab. does it come with wheels you gonna put wheels on it?

I have a handtruck that I tote my rig around with.  So i'm not to worried about wheels.  Plus I'm a pretty muscular guy, so lifting 100lbs doesn't really hurt me.

I'll still be using it with my Kustom Groove 1200HD unless I find an eden 800b to take it's place ;-)
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: MikeGee on May 09, 2007, 06:10:11 PM
I have a handtruck that I tote my rig around with.  So i'm not to worried about wheels.  Plus I'm a pretty muscular guy, so lifting 100lbs doesn't really hurt me.

I'll still be using it with my Kustom Groove 1200HD unless I find an eden 800b to take it's place ;-)

I hear ya. God has blessed me with great strenth but as DW did as he got ummmm ahhh "wiser" :-) he down sized his rig. Even though I'm 26 I work smarter not harder. I like that 1200. I'd like to have one.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: DWBass on May 09, 2007, 06:40:01 PM
I hear ya. God has blessed me with great strength but as DW did as he got ummmm ahhh "wiser" :-) he down sized his rig. Even though I'm 26 I work smarter not harder. I like that 1200. I'd like to have one.
Hey, I resemble that remark!! :) 20 years ago (@28), I'd probably be using 4x10 cabs on the regular without regard of the weight!
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: MikeGee on May 09, 2007, 07:03:07 PM
Hey, I resemble that remark!! :) 20 years ago (@28), I'd probably be using 4x10 cabs on the regular without regard of the weight!


I was ahhh ahhhh, just saying that I'm not the only one that cares about weight :-).

The only cab that I move around often is my 35lbs JBL 1x15. I use the churches 4x10 ampeg classic cab for youth night. I take my head and axe. On sundays I get to use the mesa full stack. It's starting to grow on me. I use my stack for personal venues that are outside of the church.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: MikeGee on May 09, 2007, 07:05:25 PM
Have you actually played through an Aguilar rig before?  If so, how would you describe them?

Pretty hefty... but if it's pretty much going to be stationary I wouldn't worry so much about putting wheels/casters on it.


I wouldn't even leave my di box at my church. We have saturday night concerts, I never know whose coming in and out of there.
Title: Re: Heart broken (!!!STOLEN GEAR!!!)
Post by: ddwilkins on May 09, 2007, 07:07:12 PM
I have a handtruck that I tote my rig around with.  So i'm not to worried about wheels.  Plus I'm a pretty muscular guy, so lifting 100lbs doesn't really hurt me.

I'll still be using it with my Kustom Groove 1200HD unless I find an eden 800b to take it's place ;-)

I have the 800A and my 98lbs 410xlt gets transferred via a handtruck.  You'll love the tone the 800 produces.  Be careful with the EQ when you get that heads, its extra sensitive.  One click, and the windows will fall out of the frame.