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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Guitar => Topic started by: ETanner on May 30, 2007, 04:25:02 PM
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Check out the demos for his new CD!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6dKq8JsNc9M
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Tight!!! I'm gonna watch that several times and have it down by the time my church's praise team learns it!!! ;)
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I guess I'm a moron, I didn't even know he played guitar (but then again, I don't really listen to him, either). Decent P&W stuff. I need to expand out into this style a bit. Thanks for that.
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Tight!!! I'm gonna watch that several times and have it down by the time my church's praise team learns it!!! ;)
Yea;His right hand is tight.His strumming,is really good.He use really easy chords.It go to show,you do not have to have fancy chords,to sound good,or hard chords to frett.Guitar players,seem to think,the harder a chord is to frett,the better it will sound.Quote;Joe P.said,he do not waste time,trying to frett hard chords.Hopefully, Israel will have a song book with this cd.Like he did before. :P :P
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Check out the demos for his new CD!!!!!!!!!!!!
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=6dKq8JsNc9M[/url]
where have you been at??
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He has a song book?
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yep i got two of them...there tight too.....he uses Emaj chord alot..almost on all of his songs...
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yep i got two of them...there tight too.....he uses Emaj chord alot..almost on all of his songs...
that's because alot of his songs aein Emaj!! ;D
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nice clip! israel is a great singer, songwriter and musician.
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I'm thinking of trying "We have overcome" this weekend.
I can't get that song out of my head. 8)
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HEy Dave,
Can you post the chords for this song? I would appreciate it greatly.
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......you'll never develop an ear by getting other people to figure stuff out for you........just saying.......
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You are so right. I am shamed into bettering myself. :'( I'll try and figure it out and post it and you guys can tell me how far off I am.
Thanks for the wake up call jlynnb1
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You are so right. I am shamed into bettering myself. :'( I'll try and figure it out and post it and you guys can tell me how far off I am.
Thanks for the wake up call jlynnb1
hey bro, i hope i didn't come as being negative...i wasn't trying to be. i just always see guys posting asking for chords and tabs, and it just doesn't help you to get better. now, if you have gotten as far as you can and need some help, that's one thing......but no one ever became a good musician by taking the easy way all the time.
good luck, when you get stuck let us know, i haven't ran into anyone in the guitar forums that isn't willing to help with something.
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Seeing how you're being encouraged to let your ear do some work for you, here's what I'll do:
I'll give you helpful hints.
The song is in the key of E. The first chord he plays is an E, very similar to the first chord in "You are Good"...and Israel plays almost all of the chords with the open E and B strings ringing.
Knowing that, give it a shot, listen carefully with your ears over and over and over again until the song structure is in your head and you can't get it out...so much so that you have to hum it out loud...it's at that point where you should be able to start figuring out the bass notes to the chords and the arrangement of them.
Work like that for a bit and then tell us what kind of progress you've made. I'll keep giving you hints as you need them.
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to build on what Dave is saying.....we know the song is in E, so listen for the bass notes of the chords. if you know hot o harmonize a major scale, you should be able to figure out it out pretty quick. the second i i hear the bass note in a song, i know what the chord should be.
music only does so many things within the structure of the given key (unless it's something that's really out there)........as your ear develops you'll instantly recognize extensions in chords, slash chords, etc.
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to build on what Dave is saying.....we know the song is in E, so listen for the bass notes of the chords. if you know hot o harmonize a major scale, you should be able to figure out it out pretty quick. the second i i hear the bass note in a song, i know what the chord should be.
music only does so many things within the structure of the given key (unless it's something that's really out there)........as your ear develops you'll instantly recognize extensions in chords, slash chords, etc.
This is all good info...except (and here's another hint)...the song is not actually in E major. It is in E but the bulk of the melody and chord progression are from the E mixolydian scale...except for the very first chord which is E major-based.
Isn't music theory FUN?!?! ;D
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This is all good info...except (and here's another hint)...the song is not actually in E major. It is in E but the bulk of the melody and chord progression are from the E mixolydian scale...except for the very first chord which is E major-based.
Isn't music theory FUN?!?! ;D
this is where we'll have to agree to disagree ;D
since the 5 chord is a major chord, i'd argue that it's E major with a flat 7 thrown in the verse progression......if he were playing a 5min or 5 min7 i'd agree that it was indeed mixolydian, since the flatted 7th degree always makes that chord a minor chord.
but i definitely see where you are coming from. and obviously various harmonies can be implied at anytime in a song, although it doesn't change the overall tonality of the song. for example, when people use the b6 - b7 - 1 progression in a song that is in a major key. sounds great, adds alot of drama to the sound, but still doesn't change the fact that it's a major key, even though those chords are diatonic to the minor of the smae key. (unless you are using some weird augmented/gypsy/middle-eastern scale)
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This is all good info...except (and here's another hint)...the song is not actually in E major. It is in E but the bulk of the melody and chord progression are from the E mixolydian scale...except for the very first chord which is E major-based.
Isn't music theory FUN?!?! ;D
you are such a tease
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?/?My head is spinning!!! ?/? I'm going to print this out and work on it. I'll keep you guys informed on my progress.
I love learning new stuf!!! ;D
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this is where we'll have to agree to disagree ;D
since the 5 chord is a major chord, i'd argue that it's E major with a flat 7 thrown in the verse progression......if he were playing a 5min or 5 min7 i'd agree that it was indeed mixolydian, since the flatted 7th degree always makes that chord a minor chord.
but i definitely see where you are coming from. and obviously various harmonies can be implied at anytime in a song, although it doesn't change the overall tonality of the song. for example, when people use the b6 - b7 - 1 progression in a song that is in a major key. sounds great, adds alot of drama to the sound, but still doesn't change the fact that it's a major key, even though those chords are diatonic to the minor of the smae key. (unless you are using some weird augmented/gypsy/middle-eastern scale)
It must be the heat ;D and we'll agree to agree as you're correct and the E mixolydian mode is used over the b7 chord only as far as I can tell.
Ooh, that's another hint! :o
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It must be the heat ;D and we'll agree to agree as you're correct and the E mixolydian mode is used over the b7 chord only as far as I can tell.
Ooh, that's another hint! :o
exactly....like you can throw the dorian scale or a minor groove if the 4 chord is a major/dominant chord. i.e. A9 over a Emin groove. things that normally wouldn't work can fit over parts of song that don't necessarily fit to strict major or minor diatonic scale/progression.
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What is the chord he is playing it looks very different to me it looks like
---3-------
--2--------
--2--------
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I could be way off here, but please help with it becasue I have tried it over and it just doesn't sound right to me. He uses it sliding from 2 - 8 it lloks like but I was looking more for the sound than anything?
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What is the chord he is playing it looks very different to me it looks like
---3-------
--2--------
--2--------
----0------
----0------
----0------
I could be way off here, but please help with it becasue I have tried it over and it just doesn't sound right to me. He uses it sliding from 2 - 8 it lloks like but I was looking more for the sound than anything?
*more hints*
I think I understand what you're asking and if so, it should be:
E--0
B--0
G--2
D--2
A--x
E--2
It's an Fm7 with the droning open B and E strings...so it sounds like an Fm11.
When played at the 8th fret it's C#m7.
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Ahhh thanx and I thought I was backwards on that... :-[
I was on my way out the door to practice and had to have another listen, there just isn't enough time in the day it seems. I need to retire and just play my guitar ;D
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You're sayin' that work is overrated? ;D
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Not too much over rated; it is a good thing. I just need to start working for myself! ;D
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ok. So this is what I have so far with the hints and watching the video over and over (and over).
I know it's an E, I think it's an E7, not sure though.
E - X
A - 7
D - 9
G - 8
B - 9
E - X
Then I have the C#m7
E - 9
A - X
D - 9
G - 9
B - X
E - X
Then D7 ?/?
E - X
A - 5
D - 7
G - 6
B - 7
E - X
...and then back to the first chord? I haven't touched the hook yet. Just let me know how close I am, especially with the chord designations.
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close.....it may look different to you, but they usually tab high strings on top low on the bottom, so here are the first few. remember, Israel LOVES to leave those E and B strings open (I do too), so he's moving shapes around that.....
E5 he throws in Emaj7 every now and then as well
0
0
9
9
7
0
C#min7
0
0
9
9
x
9
Dmaj7add9/13 (very questionable terminology, but that's what it amounts to, lol)
0
0
7
6
5
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by the way, that D chord only has the 13 in it if he leaves the B string open, if he's playing the Dmaj7 at the 5th fret and just leaving the E open, it's a Dmaj7add9
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close.....it may look different to you, but they usually tab high strings on top low on the bottom, so here are the first few. remember, Israel LOVES to leave those E and B strings open (I do too), so he's moving shapes around that.....
E5 he throws in Emaj7 every now and then as well
0
0
9
9
7
0
C#min7
0
0
9
9
x
9
Dmaj7add9/13 (very questionable terminology, but that's what it amounts to, lol)
0
0
7
6
5
Thanks!!! I'm glad I wasn't too far off. It took alot of time but I'm sure it'll get easier (and more accurate!) with time. I'll try for the chorus next...
This is really helpful. Maybe you could throw another song to me and kind of mentor me with getting my ear. I could try to figure it out and you tell me how close I am and what I might be missing when I listen...