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Gospel Instruments => Organ Room => Topic started by: musicfreakpsu on July 04, 2007, 12:12:40 PM
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Does anyone know a place where I could find a double manual midi controller? I have a great software synth from native instruments called B4II but no real way to play it. I'm looking for basically a replica (or as close as I can find) of a B3 manual that is strictly a midi controller. Voce makes one called the Key 5 but it has a tone generator in it, which I don't need. If anyone has any thoughts as to where I might find something like this or knows of a way I could build one it would be greatly appreciated!
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just use two seperate midi controllers and assign each manual to a different midi channel.
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I thought about that, I just wasn't sure what the best way to do drawbar control would be. Any ideas?
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Welcome to the LGM family "musicfreakpsu"....Be Blessed.
PianoWiz...
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How about this (http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse04/Content/Native_Instruments/PR/B4D.html)? It says it's made to use with NI's B4.
http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse04/Content/Native_Instruments/PR/B4D.html (http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse04/Content/Native_Instruments/PR/B4D.html)
I use a Nord Electro 2 Rack (http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2002/Nord-Electro-Rack-2.html) with the church's synth as a controller.
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Welcome to the LGM family "gnormhurst".....Be Blessed.
PianoWiz...
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HEY WAZZUP FAM.
WELL WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST GETTING TWO M-AUDIO 61-KEY WITH THE MIDI ASSIGNABLE SLIDERS. JUST ASSIGN EACH ONE OF THE SLIDERS TO EACH DRAWBAR. AND SAVE THAT AS A PRESET. AND BUY A VOLUME PEDAL AND YOU'LL HAVE THE WHOLE ORGAN SET-UP JUST WITH OUT THE PEDALS.
THIS WOULD BE ALOT MORE CHEAPER THAN TRYING TO FIND AND MIDI ORGAN. EACH BOARD SHOULD BE ABOUT 120$ A PIECE AND THE VOLUME PEDAL NO MORE THAN 30$.
I HOPE THIS HELPS
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This is probably the best solution available, but not really the most cost effective route.
Here's the drawbar controller and wooden panels for either 1 manual or 2 manual setup.
http://www.analoguehaven.com/doepfer/d3c/
Here's where you can purchase the master keyboard or buy 2 for dual manual.
http://www.analoguehaven.com/doepfer/d3m/
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welcome music! as usual,rms has the best answer!!! i really have thought about going that way for my voce v3
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You've had several great suggestions. I use NI B4 (the older version) software. I'm using an eMu Xboard 49 into my notebook computer to control it. I have that on my upper rack of the stand, with my Kurzweil 2000VP synth on the lower rack. I can use the 16 knobs on the eMu by assigning them to control the drawbars, I can use MIDI channel 1,2,or 3 to switch the keyboard to upper, lower, or pedal. I can also change the lower manual to some other MIDI channel and control it with the MIDI of the Kurzweil.
NI stopped making the hardware drawbar MIDI controllers, probably didn't sell enough of them to re-design for the new Europe required ROHS (lead-free) construction.) They still show up on EBay from time to time.
Pedals is a bit more of a problem. There are some 25 note MIDI pedalboards, but they are big bucks. Fortunately in my case, I don't play in our praise band trying to totally sound like a B3, I usually use the Kurz for bass sounds, and comp chords on the eMu for the Hammond sound.
I have another Kurzweil that has their KB3 emulator module in it, it gives me a keyboard that has enough sliders for all 9 drawbars. I carry it occasionally, but leave the eMu and older Kurzweil at the church so I don't have to set up a ton of stuff several times a week. The Native Instruments has a good sound that cuts through the mix well, although the octaves are considerably uneven (they may have fixed that in the II version, I'm not sure).
Jim
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KEEP IN MIND THAT IF YOU BUY THE PEDALS, YOU ALSO HAVE TO BUY SOME TYPE OF ORGAN BENCH! WHICH IS GONNA BE SOME SERIOUS MONEY... UNLESS YOU GO TO HOME DEPOT AND MAKE ONE. lol
SO UNLESS IT'S ABSOLUTLY REQUIRED, I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT PEDALS.
HOLLA
CATRON/TheReturn