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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Drummers => Topic started by: MIKELOVE on August 08, 2007, 06:18:15 PM
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I play a pearl right now have a PDP kit at the church, but im getting a new kit. I noticed no one talks about pearl on here, so I want to know what kit will give me the most well rounded versatile sound for my church. is pearl not whats up?
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I have a set of Pearl (Drums), along with their hardware and a signature snare. I think that they are top notch drums and the build quality is on point. Look at the small details (on the high end stuff, that is), like the tension rods and the brass receiver. The small details are what I appreciate about them. As for everyone else, I can't answer for them, but they'll chime in sooner or later.
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top end pearls are amazing in my opinion. Tone is just great. If their good enough for dennis.........
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Welcome to LGM!
Try the Pearl Vision series...
I was once told, "It's the poor mans Reference." ;D
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Welcome to LGM!
Try the Pearl Vision series...
I was once told, "It's the poor mans Reference." ;D
Lol. You're too much.
MikeLove, what Pearl kit are you thinking about? Tell us that, and I am sure you will get much more responses.
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Lol. You're too much.
MikeLove, what Pearl kit are you thinking about? Tell us that, and I am sure you will get much more responses.
I was lookin at the Reference Series kits, are there other drum makers who make a better drum then pearl?
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Oh yeah, you're in the house! Anything in the high end range are great. Better, on the other hand is subjective.
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Yes sir, I bought a Session series pearl kit..it was replaced by their newer Export customs series.. I love them though... You can not go wrong with a Pearl set... Quality drums for the right price.. Stay Blessed, nate J.
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I think I'm hooked on Pearl...I sold my Session kit and have been missing it for the last year....I got some DWs, which are great drums, but they are not fulfilling my crave (sound, durability, and feel) like Pearl......I'm going back home to Pearl.....
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Yes, Pearl is a great choice!
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...Pearl's New Premium Maple kit in 6ply or 4ply is great. The all New MCX is another good kit. (Sessions kit on Barry Bonds Juice.)
...The Reference is what it is. Pearl's hardware is Top 2 in the drum makers world.
...so to finalize, you can't go wrong with Pearl. I mean, their Artist Roster will let you know that. From Heavy Metal to straight ahead Jazz....they're great.
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Pearl Reference is a great choice. Any High end kit is a great choice. Is one brand better than another? as j_kay said, thats subjective. Depends on who you ask. When getting a High end kit, you already know its going to be good. So look at the small minute details that will set it apart from the others.
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thanks to every one for the feed back
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(http://www.musicpark.com.au/Graphics/Drums/300905/RedPearlKit1.jpg)
(http://home.arcor.de/notype2000/set/pearltom.jpg)
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Meh, lots of artists seem to be leaving them...Im not a fan of their kits, Im a gangster for their snares!
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Yeah, take it from the "Leave King". Pot, meet Kettle.
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Yeah, take it from the "Leave King". Pot, meet Kettle.
Lol. Classic. 8)
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Yeah, take it from the "Leave King". Pot, meet Kettle.
Hey I know what I like!!!
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Hey I know what I like!!!
... Mapex has gone up in sales and our 5 Star Shop is carrying them again. They have an M Birch with the free 8" tom and the Pro M is expected to arrive today (Friday) or Tuesday.
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... Mapex has gone up in sales and our 5 Star Shop is carrying them again. They have an M Birch with the free 8" tom and the Pro M is expected to arrive today (Friday) or Tuesday.
Im telling you the M Birch is awesome! I only wished that they would give you the choice of hardware with it! I hear a lot of guys who want the birch kit are buying them up. Mine are beautiful.
The Pro M comes with a free 13 X 6 Maple snare.
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Im telling you the M Birch is awesome! I only wished that they would give you the choice of hardware with it! I hear a lot of guys who want the birch kit are buying them up. Mine are beautiful.
The Pro M comes with a free 13 X 6 Maple snare.
...the one he has in the store is a 10,12,14,20 with the free 8" for $800 with hardware.
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Yo, Black - I wonder what new company's virtues will be sung within the 12 month period. How many are we up to now?
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Yo, Black - I wonder what new company's virtues will be sung within the 12 month period. How many are we up to now?
Im happy with Mapex finally, But for the ignorant let me explain..Even being endorsed is all part of the business, and in business if the supplier is not doing what they should or keeping up their end then you move on and go with someone who will represent period!!! BUT I hear you re happy endorsing Sunlite drums with the CB 700 hardware and Camber cymbals, to each their own I guess.
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You know it! :)
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You know it! :)
;D
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...so anyway, what's up with Pearl up there in Canada? Down here, the Visions Series is leading the way but as far as their other 19 lines of drums, not too many people have 'em. It seems like if John Good runs for President in '08, he'll have a lot of the Electoral votes. ;D (U.S. thing)
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Pearl is number one for tone, quality, and durability like said before. The only thing that's keeping them in the dark is companies like DW DDrums and Pacific that's killing them "looks" wise with all the metallic and satin finishes!
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Im happy with Mapex finally, But for the ignorant let me explain..Even being endorsed is all part of the business, and in business if the supplier is not doing what they should or keeping up their end then you move on and go with someone who will represent period!!! BUT I hear you re happy endorsing Sunlite drums with the CB 700 hardware and Camber cymbals, to each their own I guess.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yo thats too funny bout the CB700's and the CAMBERS...............LOL
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...so anyway, what's up with Pearl up there in Canada? Down here, the Visions Series is leading the way but as far as their other 19 lines of drums, not too many people have 'em. It seems like if John Good runs for President in '08, he'll have a lot of the Electoral votes. ;D (U.S. thing)
Yeah its like Pearl is falling off the map, just like Ludwig did in the 90's. I heard their customer service sucks, the mounting system is unpopular. Pearl's not as big here as it use to be...Most here would rather play Yamaha..But that's changing too!
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Pearl and the rest of these drum companies are going through changes as well cause of the competition of the upstart companies.. These companies are competing for our dollars cause they are making quality drums at reasonable price.. Family member Rick with his company Covenant Drum Company is an example of this trend...Most of these companies are feeling the strain of that competition.. There are a few companies that are doing very well as mentioned DW and PDP.. Mapex, Ddrum, and Gretch have made major noise in the industry in the last few years.. A lot of competition at time will lead in a decrease in sales (the internet has alot to do with that too).... Well, I am going to purchase a few snare drums and take advantage of this competition.. competition will also drop the price of product as well... We might as well enjoy being sought after by these companies to get our dollars.. Stay Blessed, Nate j.
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competition will also drop the price of product as well... We might as well enjoy being sought after by these companies to get our dollars..
That's a good consumer mentality, Nate! Very smart. ;D
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I was lookin at the Reference Series kits, are there other drum makers who make a better drum then pearl?
NO...all other drum makers are imitators....Pearl is where it's at...and definitely do not, in any way get a Yamaha....
Yamaha is off the devil...they turned my man Gorden Campbell...but he'll back to the right side....
Pearl - The Best Reason To Play Drums!!!
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NO...all other drum makers are imitators....Pearl is where it's at...and definitely do not, in any way get a Yamaha....
Yamaha is off the devil...they turned my man Gorden Campbell...but he'll back to the right side....
Pearl - The Best Reason To Play Drums!!!
Dawg Yamaha maple custom are freakin sick...you don't know what you're talkin about man.....don't hate... :o ;D :D
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I was lookin at the Reference Series kits, are there other drum makers who make a better drum then pearl?
Yes everyone else! That Reference Series idealism seems gimmicky to me. They sound the same as the Export, well the ones Ive heard was nothing to write home about.
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Yes everyone else! That Reference Series idealism seems gimmicky to me. They sound the same as the Export, well the ones Ive heard was nothing to write home about.
...Wow!! LMBO. Dude, you're a mess! I personally like the Masters Maple 6ply and that's it. My dad, who plays guitar, saw and heard the Masters kit and said he liked them. This joka said, "Those are some sharp drums." LOL
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...Wow!! LMBO. Dude, you're a mess! I personally like the Masters Maple 6ply and that's it. My dad, who plays guitar, saw and heard the Masters kit and said he liked them. This joka said, "Those are some sharp drums." LOL
Wow... Sharp? That goes in the book of " Never Say That Again" ;D ;)
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Yes everyone else! That Reference Series idealism seems gimmicky to me. They sound the same as the Export, well the ones Ive heard was nothing to write home about.
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, lolol. ;D ;D
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You know what? Since I like bass drum mounted toms, I wont even consider buying a Pearl until they upgrade the bass drum mount! Its been the same ever since I can remember! And its just ugly! Two long poles sticking up from the bass drum! yuck! :P
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Get a Master's kit and you won't have to worry about two poles......If we be honest and pay attention to detail, Pearl drums are very uniquely detailed from the rubber all the way to the lug nuts.........no other company pays attention to all the small things that really matter on a drum kit. Innovation.
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Get a Master's kit and you won't have to worry about two poles......If we be honest and pay attention to detail, Pearl drums are very uniquely detailed from the rubber all the way to the lug nuts.........no other company pays attention to all the small things that really matter on a drum kit. Innovation.
...yes they do pay attention to those small details. With that said, don't pay attention to Sheen. He's a PDP guy. He wouldn't understand what Virgin Kick Drums are anyway. ;D ;D ;D
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Im telling you the M Birch is awesome! I only wished that they would give you the choice of hardware with it! I hear a lot of guys who want the birch kit are buying them up. Mine are beautiful.
The Pro M comes with a free 13 X 6 Maple snare.
I didnt know they switched out the sizes. I thought it was still 12 X 7 like the one i got with it.
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...yes they do pay attention to those small details. With that said, don't pay attention to Sheen. He's a PDP guy. He wouldn't understand what Virgin Kick Drums are anyway. ;D ;D ;D
Yo I'm not getting a PDP anymore...new pics coming soon! And I think you will be pleased with my choice in drums sir Funky! ;)
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On the real, I could make an Export sound just as good as the Reference!
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BBD your right played the reference this weekend and was not impressed sounded very similar to my export. I think im gonna wait and try to find a different kit I like with a different sound other then pearl.
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On the real, I could make an Export sound just as good as the Reference!
I believe it! I couldnt believe Brent used a Pearl Export on this recording. Check out the song "Secret Place!"
www.myspace.com/brenteaston (http://www.myspace.com/brenteaston)
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I believe it! I couldnt believe Brent used a Pearl Export on this recording. Check out the song "Secret Place!"
[url=http://www.myspace.com/brenteaston]www.myspace.com/brenteaston[/url] ([url]http://www.myspace.com/brenteaston[/url])
That songs nice!!!! Yep, I wasnt kidding, see thats an Export and it sounds just like a Reference!!!!!
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Holy crap!!! This is a random post because I had 666 posts! :o That was kinda creepy seeing that number by my name! :D
Oh and that Pearl does sound like a high-end kit!
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Holy crap!!! This is a random post because I had 666 posts! :o That was kinda creepy seeing that number by my name! :D
Oh and that Pearl does sound like a high-end kit!
Yeah I notice that u hat the HOT 66# post man!...lol... But I figured that u'd find a random post so that you could get rid of that number..lol.. ;D ;) By the Way, anybody heard about the new Halloween Movie!? Oh yeah I have a date with Michael Meyers on August 31 ( NO HOMO)
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Yeah I notice that u hat the HOT 66# post man!...lol... But I figured that u'd find a random post so that you could get rid of that number..lol.. ;D ;) By the Way, anybody heard about the new Halloween Movie!? Oh yeah I have a date with Michael Meyers on August 31 ( NO HOMO)
...everyone please ignore this attempt to hi-jack this thread...
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It isn't a Hi- Jack! ;D ;)... I found a Pearl Export used for 300 bucks but It has a few minor scratches and I think it the old one but for 300 bucks its worth it!...
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It isn't a Hi- Jack! ;D ;)... I found a Pearl Export used for 300 bucks but It has a few minor scratches and I think it the old one but for 300 bucks its worth it!...
What does that have to do with your Halloween date? ?/?
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What does that have to do with your Halloween date? ?/?
I just changed the Subject so I wouldn't be the Hi-Jacker! ;)
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I just changed the Subject so I wouldn't be the Hi-Jacker! ;)
HI-JACKER! >:(
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HI-JACKER! >:(
LOL!!!! :D ;D
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Now, because The LGM "BOY" wasnt ignored, this thread is officially hi-jacked! >:(
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Now, because The LGM "BOY" wasnt ignored, this thread is officially hi-jacked! >:(
Come on, I gotta let the BOY at least think he is capable of pulling off a hi-jack. 8)
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Come on, I gotta let the BOY at least think he is capable of pulling off a hi-jack. 8)
Thank alot! :( Who said that I was trying to!
Now, because The LGM "BOY" wasnt ignored, this thread is officially hi-jacked! >:(
Holy crap!!! This is a random post because I had 666 posts! That was kinda creepy seeing that number by my name!
Oh and that Pearl does sound like a high-end kit!
Slick move ^ Sheen! :-\
So I guess if I metion the Subject at the end of them post like you did Im not a high jacker!? Thats weak!
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Holy crap!!! This is a random post because I had 666 posts! That was kinda creepy seeing that number by my name!
Oh and that Pearl does sound like a high-end kit!
Slick move ^ Sheen! :-\
So I guess if I metion the Subject at the end of them post like you did Im not a high jacker!? Thats weak!
Now youre learning my boy!!! ;)
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Now youre learning my boy!!! ;)
Ha.... Slick move!
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Ha.... Slick move!
;D ;D
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BBD your right played the reference this weekend and was not impressed sounded very similar to my export. I think im gonna wait and try to find a different kit I like with a different sound other then pearl.
Tuning the Reference is not like tuning other kits. The head choice plays a bigger part because the drum shell really has eliminated a lot of the character factors of some of the head combos previously used. Don't discount the Reference of someone's bad tuning choices. By far the Reference kits in no way, shape nor form sound like and Export. Nor can an Export sound as good as a Reference. Physically impossible by sheer construction.
The Bubinga from Tama is the same way. The GC here put pinstripes on the Bubinga kit and destroyed its sound and that is a great sounding kit with the stock G2 clears.
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By far the Reference kits in no way, shape nor form sound like and Export. Nor can an Export sound as good as a Reference. Physically impossible by sheer construction.
I will put this statement to the test...
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Tuning the Reference is not like tuning other kits. The head choice plays a bigger part because the drum shell really has eliminated a lot of the character factors of some of the head combos previously used. Don't discount the Reference of someone's bad tuning choices. By far the Reference kits in no way, shape nor form sound like and Export. Nor can an Export sound as good as a Reference. Physically impossible by sheer construction.
The Bubinga from Tama is the same way. The GC here put pinstripes on the Bubinga kit and destroyed its sound and that is a great sounding kit with the stock G2 clears.
Wrong!!!! ;D I still love you man!!!! LOL!!
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I will put this statement to the test...
I knew somebody was going to challenge that. :-\
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Well, the Reference I heard blew my mind.
So, I'ma stick with it. :P
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Well, the Reference I heard blew my mind.
So, I'ma stick with it. :P
Was that the Vision? ;D ;D j/k ;D ;D
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Yes, the reference was in full view of my Vision at the time.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yes, the reference was in full view of my Vision at the time.
;D ;D ;D ;D
lol. nice comeback. ;D
Yo, BBD, I dont know man, I've heard Exports and Reference kits and have yet to hear an Export sound as good as a Reference kit.
Now of course, it does matter who is behind the kit. Put me on a Reference and Jojo Mayer on an Export, and the Export will sound better! ;D
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lol. nice comeback. ;D
I've heard Exports and Reference kits and have yet to hear an Export sound as good as a Reference kit.
Did you not go to the link I posted?
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Did you not go to the link I posted?
Yes I did.
it sounded good. its definitely been eq'd. What about Live? no eq'ing involved?
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Yes I did.
it sounded good. its definitely been eq'd. What about Live? no eq'ing involved?
That may or may not be a determining factor in this case. But when was the last time you heard your favorite drummer live with no mics? When was the last time anyone of us has did a gig with no mics? There is no way to tell what kind of shells a person is using after it runs through a system.
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That may or may not be a determining factor in this case. But when was the last time you heard your favorite drummer live with no mics? When was the last time anyone of us has did a gig with no mics? There is no way to tell what kind of shells a person is using after it runs through a system.
In which case a drum machine would sound better than any of us. right? And then another thought would be, it wouldn't matter what kit we had, or what heads we had, we would just let the sound engineer do what he's paid to do, right?
I am definitely of the mind set to want to make something mediocre sound spectacular.
Tiger Woods can buy a driver from Wal-Mart and drive a ball say 300 yards, but he could grab a Nike driver and drive the same ball under the same circumstances 310 yards. That 10 yard difference is the difference that separates him from all the others. So equipment does matter.
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listen, time and time again its been proven that even a CB 700 can sound like 4000 bucks when given the right heads and tuning!!!!
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...I wouldn't own the Reference kit or the CB whatever if i had a choice to get any kit from Pearl.
...If I were to get a high end kit from Pearl, it would be the Masters Premium Maple Shell 6ply and that's it. End of Story.
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Tuning the Reference is not like tuning other kits. The head choice plays a bigger part because the drum shell really has eliminated a lot of the character factors of some of the head combos previously used. Don't discount the Reference of someone's bad tuning choices. By far the Reference kits in no way, shape nor form sound like and Export. Nor can an Export sound as good as a Reference. Physically impossible by sheer construction.
The Bubinga from Tama is the same way. The GC here put pinstripes on the Bubinga kit and destroyed its sound and that is a great sounding kit with the stock G2 clears.
your right i shouldnt trust my ear to someone else tuning and the sound man.
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your right i shouldnt trust my ear to someone else tuning and the sound man.
Don't take my comments as bashing your ear... but I am just poining out some very real factors that have to be considered when judging a kits sound. I have seen and heard too many kits caused to sound bad by the ignorance of the tuner, owner and or the sound man. We as players have to know how to get our sound out of the best sound of a particular kit. That's what makes guys like DRum Doctrs and Drum Paradise so valuable to he industry's high end sessions and live dates... knowing the sound capabilities of a particular drum/drum set.
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yep your right i played a professionally tuned kit in studio and it was real nice, i didn't take your comments as bashing my ear. it was helpfull.