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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Drummers => Topic started by: porkpiepoppa on November 28, 2007, 01:28:13 PM
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i didnt think it was possible to kill this hard on that song... lol but he did.... check it out ;D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qxRc8oR0DLo
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Sweet Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o ?/? :-[ :'(
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he's one of my faves
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poaaaahh!
That was great!
Maybe a bit much but good stuff to copy :D
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He was sho'nuff killin. I like the way he placed his 16th note fills over the traditional feel. Kinda put me in the mind of Bishop Chris Coleman.
This is another cat that he put me in the mind of.....
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He was definitely beasting.
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7:28-7:33.. got to steal that one.. beastly..
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Yes sir, Eddie is definitely a cannon... He plays with so much power and is a very tasteful drummer.. If you never heard him live make sure that you either make a trip to NYC or when he is playing for another gospel artist make sure you make that trip to see him play.. you will not be disappointed...Stay Blessed, Nate J.
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HOLY........
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...that was rediculous. >:( What is it with everyone and trying to be a beast on everything they play? This video is just a bad example on how to conduct yourself musically on a gig. That was so out-of-line to play like that. We have to grow up fam. Licks and chops are not effective when they are out-of-place or irrelevant to whats going on musically. I am not impressed with speed and technique alone. Placement and awareness are priceless attributes.
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He definitely has crazy chops....but that was way too much for that song....GB
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to the last 2 post above this i respect your opinion but He is a Pro Drummer and also if you know Animal thats just the way he plays. you wouldnt get a Cat for a guard dog, means when you hire someone or ask someone to do anything and you know their character then dont expect anything less or more. had it been calvin and he played the same fills how many cats would be trying to implement on sunday.
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to the last 2 post above this i respect your opinion but He is a Pro Drummer and also if you know Animal thats just the way he plays. you wouldnt get a Cat for a guard dog, means when you hire someone or ask someone to do anything and you know their character then dont expect anything less or more. had it been calvin and he played the same fills how many cats would be trying to implement on sunday.
i dont calvin would of, he has grown so much in music, and as a musician you play what the song calls for...ITS EVEN HARD FOR ME NOW IN DAYS TO WORSHIP IN CHURCH WITH ALL THIS LICKS AND CHOPS BEING PLAYED...HOW CAN I GO B4 GOD WITH ALL THESE FILLS IN EVERY OTHER NOTE...
GoDsDruMmeR
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ITS EVEN HARD FOR ME NOW IN DAYS TO WORSHIP IN CHURCH WITH ALL THIS LICKS AND CHOPS BEING PLAYED...HOW CAN I GO B4 GOD WITH ALL THESE FILLS IN EVERY OTHER NOTE...
;D LOL ;D
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had it been calvin and he played the same fills how many cats would be trying to implement on sunday.
Not me....just beacuse they are "pro" dosen't mean I'm going to like everything I hear them play. I only take what I like in their playing. That was too much for that song. Period. GB.
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I met Eddie a when he came to BEANTOWN a coupl times with James Hall & WP he was always humble, and he has definately has grown as a drummer. Great clip to a song (Changed )if i can remember and quote me if i am wrong originally sung by the Legendary Tramaine Hawkins 8)
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OOOHH MMMYYYY GOOOOODDDDDDNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES SSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never really seen any of his clips but.... mmannn!!!!!! THATS FIYA!!!!!!
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...that was rediculous. >:( What is it with everyone and trying to be a beast on everything they play? This video is just a bad example on how to conduct yourself musically on a gig. That was so out-of-line to play like that. We have to grow up fam. Licks and chops are not effective when they are out-of-place or irrelevant to whats going on musically. I am not impressed with speed and technique alone. Placement and awareness are priceless attributes.
Whoa Doc! Breathe man!!!!!!! He's not tryin to be a beast! That's just how he is! He gets excited when he plays! Believe me I know from personal experience! It's called Havin Fun!
Cant we have fun anymore with out the criticism????
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HE WAS SHEDDIN' LOL
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Whoa Doc! Breathe man!!!!!!! He's not tryin to be a beast! That's just how he is! He gets excited when he plays! Believe me I know from personal experience! It's called Havin Fun!
Cant we have fun anymore with out the criticism????
He gets excited?! He's a grown man! Why are you all making excuses for his annoying outbursts on the drum set? I dont care who he is. Its still wrong. This just shows me where (those of you who are protecting him) musical maturity level is. Stop listening to just the drummer! It wasnt a shed. It wasnt a jam session. It was a church service and a choir was singing. That song does not call for that animalistic behavior and if I wrote that song, I would be very offended. And just so you know, Calvin would have never played that song like that. I would have never played that song like that. That was very immature. You all should download more of Mendoza's song files...learn something on LGM for once...this is pitiful.
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LOL for eternity @ "annointing outbursts" AND "animalistic behavior" :o
I'm at work and that made me laugh out loud!
I agree. He was stepping on some toes. Actually jumping up and down on there toes.
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...also if you know Animal thats just the way he plays. you wouldnt get a Cat for a guard dog, means when you hire someone or ask someone to do anything and you know their character then dont expect anything less or more.
Please do not applaud the fact that he is one dimensional. Good for one thing. Limited. Has no control. Is who he is. Cant expect anything less or more? Who wants a musician like that? That is a shame. That is nothing to be proud of. Further more, there's more than one reason why certain people get gigs. Availability could have been a factor. Last minute call. Couldnt get the person they really wanted...
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He gets excited?! He's a grown man! Why are you all making excuses for his annoying outbursts on the drum set? I dont care who he is. Its still wrong. This just shows me where (those of you who are protecting him) musical maturity level is. Stop listening to just the drummer! It wasnt a shed. It wasnt a jam session. It was a church service and a choir was singing. That song does not call for that animalistic behavior and if I wrote that song, I would be very offended. And just so you know, Calvin would have never played that song like that. I would have never played that song like that. That was very immature. You all should download more of Mendoza's song files...learn something on LGM for once...this is pitiful.
you view music your way and let others view it theirs.
those who called him for the gig have no complaints and even posted it on youtube so seems to me your wasting your time and breath by insulting his style of playing.
believe it or not there are some who find fault with the way calvin plays. so while he probaly would not have played this song this way guess what he's not even in this clip and neither are you, true story.....
God forbid someone actually play what they feel.
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That was a bit too much. He totally left the rest of the band and choir on that one. The stops in the music were totally disregarded. I think the camera made him do all of that. But as long as some people are impressed by it, he will be encouraged to keep it up.
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that's a hot lambo my friend.
Anyway, let's just remember this man is a person. Direct your comments at him as if he were a member of this board. I agree with both dude-on-drums and musiqisme26. Good points.
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...the 7:28 - 33 mark was crazy. 8)
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...your wasting your time and breath by insulting his style of playing.
...believe it or not there are some who find fault with the way calvin plays. so while he probaly would not have played this song this way guess what he's not even in this clip and neither are you, true story...
...God forbid someone actually play what they feel...
When did immaturity become a style of playing?
I mentioned Calvin's name because someone else did in reference to this clip. I mentioned my name because I can.
And please, play what you feel...in a shed or maybe in your basement.
That was a bit too much. He totally left the rest of the band and choir on that one. The stops in the music were totally disregarded. I think the camera made him do all of that. But as long as some people are impressed by it, he will be encouraged to keep it up.
True. Especially the last part...thats just scary.
...Anyway, let's just remember this man is a person. Direct your comments at him as if he were a member of this board...
True. Its just frustrating when youre trying to lead cats down the right path and then someone in the light pulls a stunt like this...now everyone thinks its ok because "Gerald's little brother" is doing it.
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HE WAS SHEDDIN' LOL
*lowers head and pulls hat down over my face*
lol........
But Sheen, i feel you man....
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This reminds me of the forum topic or discussions surrounding people not respecting drummers who dont have a great deal of chops. Notice the majority of the people who saw this clip were jumpin thru the roof.......If Eddie had played this song without the same amount of licks...and actually played what the song called for...who would really be sayin he was killin'? playin them skinnz? or something like that???? :-\
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This reminds me of the forum topic or discussions surrounding people not respecting drummers who dont have a great deal of chops. Notice the majority of the people who saw this clip were jumpin thru the roof.......If Eddie had played this song without the same amount of licks...and actually played what the song called for...who would really be sayin he was killin'? playin them skinnz? or something like that???? :-\
I would
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That was a bit too much. He totally left the rest of the band and choir on that one. The stops in the music were totally disregarded. I think the camera made him do all of that. But as long as some people are impressed by it, he will be encouraged to keep it up.
Nah it definetly wasnt the camera, Eddies on the cam all the time...
Eddies nice man, hands down and I have no problem admiting that he's one of my favs but maybe it was just a smidgen too much, at least for that type of song. But hey, then again who do you know that hold sheds in 6/8...lol, maybe he just needed to let loose...lol
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I thoughT all that was un-called for! That was all a show! >:( Songs like that I try to build up to sound " Big" and full if that makes any sense :-\ But I still make sure that Im not over powering the other people Im playing with.. The guy is good but I couldnt really get with that clip AT ALL! :-[
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I thoughT all that was un-called for! That was all a show! >:( Songs like that I try to build up to sound " Big" and full if that makes any sense :-\ But I still make sure that Im not over powering the other people Im playing with.. The guy is good but I couldnt really get with that clip AT ALL! :-[
what are you talking about, this post or rant-to-be-heard is uncalled for........
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what are you talking about, this post or rant-to-be-heard is uncalled for........
Ill pray for you homie. Relax. I could see you being mad if you were Eddie ::) Are you? :D ;) :-X
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DRUMMA needs a good ol LGM hug....???? somebody hug him 1st though..
GodSdRuMmEr
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The Jesus in me, love the Jesus in you, The Jesus in me loves the Jesus in you, So easy, So easy, So easy, Easy to love!!! ;D
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Yo he is nice but he hit the o-d button on that one.....i mean even if it was new school slow jam, like the ending of "The Blood" or somethin i could understand........but that song is madd old!!!! Just play the song. Those licks did not come natural......nobody thinks of licks when playin changed.....NOBODY!!!! Lol he did some thinkin on that one....
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Ill pray for you homie. Relax. I could see you being mad if you were Eddie ::) Are you? :D ;) :-X
i bet you wish i was so i could be your friend and invite me to shed with you..............
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Maybe I missed something.... Yes, he is playing a lot of notes, but if you're really listening, he plays the song from start to finish. He is not "running away" from the band, he is interacting with the band. I don't hear "immaturity", but a great deal of musical maturity.
He doesn't start "blazing" until the 3:54 mark, which is more than halfway thru the clip. Not only does he match the band dynamically, HE shapes in musical phrases. In watching the clip several times, I honestly don't see what makes him an "immature drummer." I am watching this clip LOOKING for things to call him out on... The only thing I can see is that he looks like Donkey Kong while he's playing. Thats all.
I just do not see it guys... Sorry. :-\
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Maybe I missed something.... Yes, he is playing a lot of notes, but if you're really listening, he plays the song from start to finish. He is not "running away" from the band, he is interacting with the band. I don't hear "immaturity", but a great deal of musical maturity.
He doesn't start "blazing" until the 3:54 mark, which is more than halfway thru the clip. Not only does he match the band dynamically, HE shapes in musical phrases. In watching the clip several times, I honestly don't see what makes him an "immature drummer." I am watching this clip LOOKING for things to call him out on... The only thing I can see is that he looks like Donkey Kong while he's playing. Thats all.
I just do not see it guys... Sorry. :-\
some dont understand the difference of being a drummer and a musician, he played the song including the melody
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i bet you wish i was so i could be your friend and invite me to shed with you..............
dude...why do you care so much what other people think???...just let people have their opinions....we all know where you stand when it comes to this clip. It's cool. Whatever man....GB.
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dude...why do you care so much what other people think???...just let people have their opinions....we all know where you stand when it comes to this clip. It's cool. Whatever man....GB.
you right
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Juse, when you can use the word "Blaze" to describe the way a musician played the song "Changed," something is terribly wrong. :D
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Juse, when you can use the word "Blaze" to describe the way a musician played the song "Changed," something is terribly wrong. :D
LOL!!!!!!! ;D :D
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Juse, when you can use the word "Blaze" to describe the way a musician played the song "Changed," something is terribly wrong. :D
LOL toooooo funny but true...........
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i bet you wish i was so i could be your friend and invite me to shed with you..............
Dude, No! I bet your the dude that sits in the corner with all the other Jock Corner drummers and ohhh and ahhh!!! ;D
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Nah it definetly wasnt the camera, Eddies on the cam all the time...
Eddies nice man, hands down and I have no problem admiting that he's one of my favs but maybe it was just a smidgen too much, at least for that type of song. But hey, then again who do you know that hold sheds in 6/8...lol, maybe he just needed to let loose...lol
I don't think it was the camera, either. I noticed his eyes were glued on whoever was directing the music (a sign of band awareness).
It was 9/8. . . and I shed in 9/8, 6/8, 5/4, 5/8. . . What's the point in only shedding in 4/4. Let's get out of the box.
I have to agree with Juse. He only went "wild" when the rest of the band built up the music. Did anyone else notice that he wasn't the only one playing in some of those breaks? But even though he was "blazin" at the build up, his dynamics went right back down when the choir went back to the chorus to end the song. Then at the first ending, he did what a drummer would have done at the end of a song while the other band members held the "this is the end of the song let's see what we're going to do next" chords.
If anything, he did too much at least at the places where he was supposed to do more. I didn't see it as him running away.
P.S. Sheen if you argue with me, I will HUNT YOU DOWN AND GUT YOU LIKE A FISH!!!!!!
Peace be unto you, Dudes. ;D
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Juse, when you can use the word "Blaze" to describe the way a musician played the song "Changed," something is terribly wrong. :D
Someone didn't pay attention to the quotation marks around the word. If one will completely disregard everything that was said in that post to key in on ONE word... Thats pretty chippy if you ask me....
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I don't think it was the camera, either. I noticed his eyes were glued on whoever was directing the music (a sign of band awareness).
It was 9/8. . . and I shed in 9/8, 6/8, 5/4, 5/8. . . What's the point in only shedding in 4/4. Let's get out of the box.
I have to agree with Juse. He only went "wild" when the rest of the band built up the music. Did anyone else notice that he wasn't the only one playing in some of those breaks? But even though he was "blazin" at the build up, his dynamics went right back down when the choir went back to the chorus to end the song. Then at the first ending, he did what a drummer would have done at the end of a song while the other band members held the "this is the end of the song let's see what we're going to do next" chords.
If anything, he did too much at least at the places where he was supposed to do more. I didn't see it as him running away.
P.S. Sheen if you argue with me, I will HUNT YOU DOWN AND GUT YOU LIKE A FISH!!!!!!
Peace be unto you, Dudes. ;D
well put
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lol..its like ya'll blaming KOBE for taking 44 shots a game..thats what he does..and guess what when u rank KOBE in the LEAGUE right now where does he stand???? hate him or love it he's on everybody's top...
*SHEEENNNNN COME IN THE HOUSE AND EAT UR CAMBELLS SOUP*...
GodSdRuMmeR
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lol..its like ya'll blaming KOBE for taking 44 shots a game..thats what he does..and guess what when u rank KOBE in the LEAGUE right now where does he stand???? hate him or love it he's on everybody's top...
*SHEEENNNNN COME IN THE HOUSE AND EAT UR CAMBELLS SOUP*...
GodSdRuMmeR
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Yeap! Yeap! As the U.S. President would say, "The Internets!"
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Yeap! Yeap! As the U.S. President would say, "The Internets!"
...and as Miss South Carolina would say, "The Iraq." ;D
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Man forget yall! Im bout to go shed to Richard Smallwood's "Total Praise" for 3 hours!!! I just feel like blazing right now! Man Im bout to snap as soon as I reach the half way mark, "Yooouu Arreeeee.....(ratatatatat bobobobobom bishhhh!!!!!!) :o :o :o OOOOhhhhhh man Im bout to buuuuullllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee this balad!!!!! :o :o :o .....But wait! I better get another cell phone first, cause once they hear me blaze "Total Praise" Imma get crazy calls to be on everybody's tour! "Yooooooooooouuuuuuuuuu AAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee ....(skapapapapapapapapa docadoodle doodle doodle dishhhhhhhh!) :o :o :o
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Man forget yall! Im bout to go shed to Richard Smallwood's "Total Praise" for 3 hours!!! I just feel like blazing right now! Man Im bout to snap as soon as I reach the half way mark, "Yooouu Arreeeee.....(ratatatatat bobobobobom bishhhh!!!!!!) :o :o :o OOOOhhhhhh man Im bout to buuuuullllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee this balad!!!!! :o :o :o .....But wait! I better get another cell phone first, cause once they hear me blaze "Total Praise" Imma get crazy calls to be on everybody's tour! "Yooooooooooouuuuuuuuuu AAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee ....(skapapapapapapapapa docadoodle doodle doodle dishhhhhhhh!) :o :o :o
can someone charts these for me ;D :D
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Note the correction in bold:
...and as Miss South Carolina would say, "The Iraq."
Get out of here! j_kay is this on youtube by chance?
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Get out of here! j_kay is this on youtube by chance?
Yes, it is. Hilarious!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
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can someone charts these for me ;D :D
Since you've requested it, I can fulfill this request:
First "measure" in 3/8, the rest are in 4/4: (ratatatatat bobobobobom bishhhh!!!!!!), Second measure (the third goes over the bar), fourth measure (the fifth goes over the bar, too), fifth measure and the sixth measure: (skapa/papa/papa/papa/pa/doca/doodle/doodle /doodle/dishhhhhhhh!)
Counted: 1e 2&3/1234/1/1&2&3&4&/1/1e2e3e4e/1
Legend
bishhhh and dishhhhhhhh are crashes (16" and 18", respectively)
ratatatatat is the snare, so is skapa and papa (14" for a full bodied ratatat sound -when you hit that skapa and papa, those are the accents)
bobobobobom are the floor toms (16" and 18" for the full effect)
doca is the 10" tom
doodle is the 12" tom
Yes, that's the count if you sound it out and write it. It's a masterpiece, Kev - go ahead and send this to the Library of Congress. It's near Regan International in D.C. I'll go with you.
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Correction on the count:
Counted: 1e 2&3/1234/1234 (whole note)/1&2&3&4&/1/1e2e3e4e/1234 (whole note)
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Yes, it is. Hilarious!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
I bet! Report later... Man, Neo-Bush is too funny. The one when he was striving trying to say "territorial." When he finished Joe Ball(ing) that word he thought it was two words.
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Man forget yall! Im bout to go shed to Richard Smallwood's "Total Praise" for 3 hours!!! I just feel like blazing right now! Man Im bout to snap as soon as I reach the half way mark, "Yooouu Arreeeee.....(ratatatatat bobobobobom bishhhh!!!!!!) :o :o :o OOOOhhhhhh man Im bout to buuuuullllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee this balad!!!!! :o :o :o .....But wait! I better get another cell phone first, cause once they hear me blaze "Total Praise" Imma get crazy calls to be on everybody's tour! "Yooooooooooouuuuuuuuuu AAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee ....(skapapapapapapapapa docadoodle doodle doodle dishhhhhhhh!) :o :o :o
Ay, Sheen, I always leave inspired when you play. This is some of the best beat-boxing I've ever read! You are just an all-around great body-percussionist. ;D
Since you've requested it, I can fulfill this request:
First "measure" in 3/8, the rest are in 4/4: (ratatatatat bobobobobom bishhhh!!!!!!), Second measure (the third goes over the bar), fourth measure (the fifth goes over the bar, too), fifth measure and the sixth measure: (skapa/papa/papa/papa/pa/doca/doodle/doodle /doodle/dishhhhhhhh!)
Counted: 1e 2&3/1234/1/1&2&3&4&/1/1e2e3e4e/1
Legend
bishhhh and dishhhhhhhh are crashes (16" and 18", respectively)
ratatatatat is the snare, so is skapa and papa (14" for a full bodied ratatat sound -when you hit that skapa and papa, those are the accents)
bobobobobom are the floor toms (16" and 18" for the full effect)
doca is the 10" tom
doodle is the 12" tom
Yes, that's the count if you sound it out and write it. It's a masterpiece, Kev - go ahead and send this to the Library of Congress. It's near Regan International in D.C. I'll go with you.
Thanks, man. Now I can take this to the shed with me. I've got work to do. These are some pretty complicated rhythms.
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Thanks, man. Now I can take this to the shed with me. I've got work to do. These are some pretty complicated rhythms.
;D No pain, no gain, baldeagle!!! ;D
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Man forget yall! Im bout to go shed to Richard Smallwood's "Total Praise" for 3 hours!!! I just feel like blazing right now! Man Im bout to snap as soon as I reach the half way mark, "Yooouu Arreeeee.....(ratatatatat bobobobobom bishhhh!!!!!!) :o :o :o OOOOhhhhhh man Im bout to buuuuullllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee this balad!!!!! :o :o :o .....But wait! I better get another cell phone first, cause once they hear me blaze "Total Praise" Imma get crazy calls to be on everybody's tour! "Yooooooooooouuuuuuuuuu AAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee ....(skapapapapapapapapa docadoodle doodle doodle dishhhhhhhh!) :o :o :o
LOL......
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Maybe I missed something.... Yes, he is playing a lot of notes, but if you're really listening, he plays the song from start to finish. He is not "running away" from the band, he is interacting with the band. I don't hear "immaturity", but a great deal of musical maturity.
He doesn't start "blazing" until the 3:54 mark, which is more than halfway thru the clip. Not only does he match the band dynamically, HE shapes in musical phrases. In watching the clip several times, I honestly don't see what makes him an "immature drummer." I am watching this clip LOOKING for things to call him out on... The only thing I can see is that he looks like Donkey Kong while he's playing. Thats all.
I just do not see it guys... Sorry. :-\
I second that Bruh! He is a very mature drummer, and he is interacting with the organist. The Bass player was doing his thing as well 8)[/b][/color]
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LOL! I love yall dudes...yall wild! :D :D :D
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Clownin!
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Very lively; he actually jumped up a few times :D
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Clownin!
LOL! Homie dont play dat!!!!!!!!! LOL!
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I enjoyed the clip, but I couldnt tell wht the song was until the soloist started to sing... the drumming was fine, but the keys didnt sound like the CD at all, atleast not in the beginning... I used to go to Love Center, have heard this song sang by Tramaine in person... I just dont think musically, it did justice. :-\
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I enjoyed the clip, but I couldnt tell wht the song was until the soloist started to sing... the drumming was fine, but the keys didnt sound like the CD at all, atleast not in the beginning... I used to go to Love Center, have heard this song sang by Tramaine in person... I just dont think musically, it did justice. :-\
..if u say so...lol
GoDsdrUmmER
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..if u say so...lol
GoDsdrUmmER
Just my honest opinion... Im not steppin on anyone. For real. I loved the drummer. I was referring to the keys. Sorry :-\
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ok i got you ..thanks for clearing that up...
GoDsDrUmmER..
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ok i got you ..thanks for clearing that up...
GoDsDrUmmER..
Yeah I realize that at times I am as clear as a foggy day. No prob.