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Title: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: jonesl78 on December 19, 2007, 08:54:07 AM

1 - teach from memory

2- write it out 

     If you write it out, how do you normally write it out?  ( i.e. sheet music;)
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: vtguy84 on December 19, 2007, 09:21:54 AM
I will always write out chords, unless....

- I know the song like the back of my hand
- I have taught talented section leaders to hold their own part

Here is an example of how I write it out:  http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,50632.0.html
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: LaylaMonroe on December 19, 2007, 09:29:46 AM
I haven't directed  choir or taught parts since college.

When I did teach parts, it was always from memory. I'm blessed (to God be the glory) with an aural version of photographic memory. I can almost always hear at least the S-A-T parts in a song, and almost never forget the parts - down to a tee. Same thing with lead vocals, runs, riffs, and chords.
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: sjonathan02 on December 19, 2007, 09:42:43 AM
I haven't directed  choir or taught parts since college.

When I did teach parts, it was always from memory. I'm blessed (to God be the glory) with an aural version of photographic memory. I can almost always hear at least the S-A-T parts in a song, and almost never forget the parts - down to a tee. Same thing with lead vocals, runs, riffs, and chords.



Yep, I'm pretty much the same way.


@ the OP, at the end of the day, you have to use what works for you and the flow of your choir rehearsals. If charts work for you, then use them; if not, then don't.

Remember, keeping things simple can keep things moving. ;)
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: keptbyJesus on December 19, 2007, 03:07:46 PM


Yep, I'm pretty much the same way.


@ the OP, at the end of the day, you have to use what works for you and the flow of your choir rehearsals. If charts work for you, then use them; if not, then don't.

Remember, keeping things simple can keep things moving. ;)

Cosign
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: vtguy84 on December 19, 2007, 03:53:02 PM
Let me rephrase.

Most songs I can memorize and keep it on lock.  With some of these crazy moving songs, I chart it so I don't spend all day trying to teach and remember it as well.

For the most part, I can hear a song for the first time, and if I can pretty much hear the other two parts if I just hear one.
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: betnich on December 20, 2007, 10:40:39 AM
Let me rephrase.

Most songs I can memorize and keep it on lock.  With some of these crazy moving songs, I chart it so I don't spend all day trying to teach and remember it as well.

For the most part, I can hear a song for the first time, and if I can pretty much hear the other two parts if I just hear one.


     Yeah - me, too. For our small Praise group, I either teach by ear or let them figure it out on their own (our guitarist has a good ear and gives parts, too). But sometimes if we're working from sheet music I write out Alto/Tenor below the melody...
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: t.best2009 on January 05, 2008, 03:14:35 AM
I haven't directed  choir or taught parts since college.

When I did teach parts, it was always from memory. I'm blessed (to God be the glory) with an aural version of photographic memory. I can almost always hear at least the S-A-T parts in a song, and almost never forget the parts - down to a tee. Same thing with lead vocals, runs, riffs, and chords.

I'm the same way. I teach a youth choir and youth praise team. And I feel it more effective to teach from memory. Especially that age group. I'm one of them so I can honestly say it's easy to get distracted by papers.
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: chosenandcalled on February 05, 2008, 11:33:45 AM
when i teach the youth choir at my church i usually write out the words for them or get them a copy of the cd. I personally memorize each part of the song; the music the words and the harmonies of the choir(soprano, alto, tenor, maybe bass).
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: Formuzik on February 13, 2008, 11:00:08 AM
I make a chord chart for my band.  I usually don't transcribe vocals out because most of my choir members don't read.  I simply memorize the vocals myself and teach by rote.  I have chord charts for our files since my entire band plays by charts.  Here is what our charts look like:

Victory
Words and music by Yolanda Adams
Key of Bbm
Meter 4/4

Intro:      ||: Bbm   | Bbm | Ddim7 Ebm |Ebm  F7 :||

      Bbm
Chorus:   I’ve got,  got the victory;
      Bbm
      I’ve got the sweet, sweet victory in Jesus, yes I do.
      Ddim7        Ebm
      He is a mighty Conqueror, in Him I will trust;
      Ebm    F7
All my battle’s He’ll fight.
      Bbm   
      I’ve got,  got the victory;
      Bbm
      I’ve got the sweet, sweet victory in Jesus.
                   Ddim7                        Ebm
      For me he died, but He rose on the third day,
      Ebm                         F7      
      That’s why I have true victory everyday.

      Bbm
Verse:   Truly I’ve been through the storm and rain;
      Bbm
      I know some things about heartache and pain.
      Ddim7           Ebm
      But God carried me through it all;
      Ebm                                F7
      Without His protection I’d surely fall.
      Bbm
      I’ve been broke without a dime to my name,
      Bbm
      But all my bills got paid ‘cause I called on Jesus’ name.
      Ddim7              Ebm   
      You can’t tell me that God isn’t real,
      Ebm                     F7         
      ‘Cause I’ve got victory and that’s why I’m still here.


Repeat Chorus:

Verse 2:   I’m not worried ‘bout material things I don’t have;
      I just rest ‘cause I’m sure in my Savior’s care.      
      ‘Cause I know that my blessing’s on the way;
      I can’t see it right now, but I stand by faith.
      I’ve fought many, many battle’s in His name;
      I’ve held up the bloodstained banner and proclaim
      That Jesus is the Truth and the Light
      Believe it when I say He will make it all right.

Repeat Chorus:

      Bbm
Bridge:   Yeah, I’ve got the victory
      Bbm
      Yeah, I’ve got the victory
      Bbm  Ddim7  Ebm        F7
      Yeah, yeah, yeah
      (Repeat)

Repeat Chorus 2x
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: T-Block on February 14, 2008, 08:39:25 AM
I always write out all the choir parts with the words beside them for every song.  I have a good memory, but I ain't gonna rely on that when practice time comes.  I might forget, then we gonna be spending valuable practice time figuring out parts.  I hate that!!!
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: brodonny on February 20, 2008, 05:25:53 AM
I TRY TO STUDY THE SONG ALL WEEK BEFORE CHOIR PRACTICE.SO I WILL REMEMBER ALL PARTS AND RUN RIGHT THROUGH IT.
Title: Re: When you teach parts do you...
Post by: slburks on March 05, 2008, 05:14:12 PM
Whichever is simplest. I prefer aural because it enables me to keep my eyes on the choir.