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Title: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: DatDrummaboy87 on January 08, 2008, 10:13:07 PM
anyone know any specific exercises to strengthen the fulcrum? thx
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Post by: drummin4JC on January 08, 2008, 10:41:52 PM
anyone know any specific exercises to strengthen the fulcrum? thx

fulcrum?  ?/?
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Post by: yamahaboy on January 08, 2008, 11:29:17 PM
As they said on Keenan and Kel, *Shrugs* Fuuulcrummm! ?/? ::) :)
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Post by: dude-on-drums on January 09, 2008, 12:09:47 AM
Aw man, not in the drum room...please...mis-spell words anywhere but here man!  This could get brutal   ;D  At any rate, welcome to LGM!
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Post by: BigFoot_BigThumb on January 09, 2008, 01:45:00 AM
Um, he actually did spell it correctly.  MAN, yall are hard on folks sometimes. 


Here's some info that may help you along with a link at the bottom that offers even more.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulcrum_%28drumming%29
Title: Re: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: theLearner on January 09, 2008, 02:03:46 AM
Get Dave Weckl's vid "back to basics" .....he has some stuff regarding the fulcrum on that
Until then....practice slow single strokes (one hand at a time) using only your pointer finger and thumb
to hold the stick (no wrist action)
Title: Re: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: dude-on-drums on January 09, 2008, 09:56:52 AM
Oooops   :D  I didnt even check his spelling!  My badd fammo. 
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Post by: Belial189 on January 09, 2008, 10:10:32 AM
Learn how to spell the word before you post on this forum ::) You will get locked ::)
What did he spell wrong?
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Post by: dude-on-drums on January 09, 2008, 10:20:06 AM
What did he spell wrong?


First of all we're past that.  And if you read the previous posts you would know that I just apologized. 

Secondly, dont just come in here asking smart-alik questions and you hav'nt even introduced yourself.  You know what this is, youre probably a veteran lurker steppin out of the shade to get some sun huh?  Well, welcome to LGM.  What is your name?
Title: Re: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: JFunky on January 09, 2008, 10:26:11 AM
...Calm down Gentlemen.  Let's sit down at the table...

...D-H...Go get us some kool aid and some Popeye's Chicken....don't forget the buttery biscuits and napkins. 

...Okay, here's my question:  Why do you want to strengthen the fulcrum?  This is a very weird question.  ?/? ?/? ?/? :-\

..by the way, I'm asking very politely.  You must first know what a Fulcrum is.  That's why this question is very, very weird to me.

Title: Re: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: E.R. on January 09, 2008, 11:23:06 AM
Strengthen a Fulcrum?
Thats easy. Go from 8D's to 2B's.
That is definitely a stronger fulcrum.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: JFunky on January 09, 2008, 11:58:28 AM
Strengthen a Fulcrum?
Thats easy. Go from 8D's to 2B's.
That is definitely a stronger fulcrum.  ;D ;D ;D

...smarty pants. LOL


[Sidebar] I love Vic Firth 8D's man.  Now I have to
             get on the 85A's. YESS!!!!  Strenghthening
             my Fulcrum is going to be great. ;)
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Post by: BEATBOXERZ on January 09, 2008, 12:08:19 PM
Um, he actually did spell it correctly.  MAN, yall are hard on folks sometimes. 


Here's some info that may help you along with a link at the bottom that offers even more.


[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulcrum_%28drumming%29[/url]

My bad. He spelled it right.
anyone know any specific exercises to strengthen the fulcrum? thx

Sorry about that man...
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Post by: BEATBOXERZ on January 09, 2008, 12:13:49 PM
anyone know any specific exercises to strengthen the fulcrum? thx
Pratice doing singles strokes on a pillow to strengthen your forearms.
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Post by: E.R. on January 09, 2008, 12:22:36 PM
...smarty pants. LOL


[Sidebar] I love Vic Firth 8D's man.  Now I have to
             get on the 85A's. YESS!!!!  Strenghthening
             my Fulcrum is going to be great. ;)

Imma hafta give the 85A's a spin. 8D's are on point. I also love the SD4's.
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Post by: Belial189 on January 09, 2008, 12:41:27 PM

First of all we're past that.  And if you read the previous posts you would know that I just apologized. 

Secondly, dont just come in here asking smart-alik questions and you hav'nt even introduced yourself.  You know what this is, youre probably a veteran lurker steppin out of the shade to get some sun huh?  Well, welcome to LGM.  What is your name?
Lol...I'll be sure to read every post then so you don't try and flame me next time.
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Post by: DatDrummaboy87 on January 09, 2008, 12:59:20 PM


Secondly, dont just come in here asking smart-alik questions and you hav'nt even introduced yourself.  You know what this is, youre probably a veteran lurker steppin out of the shade to get some sun huh?  Well, welcome to LGM.  What is your name?
 

LOL!!! my name is Barnaby...and yea i have been playin for like 11 years now...but i am still no pro! lol...trust me dude...i have ALOT of work to do!

And thanks to everyone who gave some advice on how to make the fulcrum stronger! And for anyone wondering why i ask this question, it's because when i play for long periods of time, sometimes the stick tends to start slipping from in between the index finger and thumb of my left hand....im trying to get rid of this weakness...
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Post by: JFunky on January 09, 2008, 01:03:58 PM
Imma hafta give the 85A's a spin. 8D's are on point. I also love the SD4's.

...I'll pass on the SD4's. 

...my new sticks will be the Steve Smith's along with the 85A's and the AS8D's.  I'm through with the Vic 5A's.  They just don't feel right to me anymore . :-\   
Title: Re: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: Cherri on January 09, 2008, 01:04:27 PM
anyone know any specific exercises to strengthen the fulcrum? thx

These are my notes from the “Secret Weapons” DVD

Chapter 8: Fulcrum

1.   The point or support on which a lever pivots.
2.   An anatomical structure that acts as a hinge or a point of support.
3.   An agent through which vital powers are exercised.

The essential part of the Grip is the fulcrum. All grips and techniques rely on the fulcrum. The amount of pressure you apply should remain constant through the entire motion of a stroke. Do not squeeze and release the pressure in the stick while in motion (play). Find the sweet spot doing the Balancing exercise-by dribbling the stick with the other hand. Once you have find the sweet spot  (which is the point where the stick bounces with most economical efficiency) keep the fulcrum there.


Get this DVD, study it, absorb it and apply it.
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Post by: DatDrummaboy87 on January 09, 2008, 01:10:05 PM
My bad. He spelled it right. Sorry about that man...

lol no problem man

...Calm down Gentlemen.  Let's sit down at the table...

...D-H...Go get us some kool aid and some Popeye's Chicken....don't forget the buttery biscuits and napkins. 

...Okay, here's my question:  Why do you want to strengthen the fulcrum?  This is a very weird question.  ?/? ?/? ?/? :-\

..by the way, I'm asking very politely.  You must first know what a Fulcrum is.  That's why this question is very, very weird to me.



my bad...for anyone who doesn't know what the fulcrum is, it is the part of a drummers grip....it is the part of the grip where the stick is held by the index finger and thumb....and as far as the reason why i want to strengthen it, i stated my reason in my previous post lol
Title: Re: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: JFunky on January 09, 2008, 01:14:34 PM
...well dude, Cherri gave you the best answer you can get on this board. 

*Your job is to go out and purchase JoJo Mayer's DVD.  The rest is up to you.  Good luck on your mission.  Remember....your Index and Thumb are counting on you*
Title: Re: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: drummin4JC on January 09, 2008, 01:16:31 PM


my bad...for anyone who doesn't know what the fulcrum is, it is the part of a drummers grip....it is the part of the grip where the stick is held by the index finger and thumb....and as far as the reason why i want to strengthen it, i stated my reason in my previous post lol


lol dude jfunky is the one who taught me what a fulcrum is. i think he knows!

and i didnt understand the question you was trying to ask. how can you strengthen a grip (fulcrum)... hmmm... grip it harder. i really dont understand that question!  :-\
Im sure you will get your answer tho...
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Post by: E.R. on January 09, 2008, 01:19:37 PM
Barnaby, the problem is, you didn't relate your question well. This is a drummers forum with plenty of knowledge. We know what a fulcrum is. Your question was how to STRENGTHEN a FULCRUM. Doesn't really make sense. . .when you know what a fulcrum IS.

as JFunky stated, READ and APPLY Cherri's response. That is the best advice you are going to get on this forum.
Title: Re: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: DatDrummaboy87 on January 09, 2008, 01:22:50 PM
...well dude, Cherri gave you the best answer you can get on this board. 

*Your job is to go out and purchase JoJo Mayer's DVD.  The rest is up to you.  Good luck on your mission.  Remember....your Index and Thumb are counting on you*

lol......thanks dude...and thanks cherri
Title: Re: fulcrum!!!!!!!
Post by: DatDrummaboy87 on January 09, 2008, 01:24:05 PM
Barnaby, the problem is, you didn't relate your question well. This is a drummers forum with plenty of knowledge. We know what a fulcrum is. Your question was how to STRENGTHEN a FULCRUM. Doesn't really make sense. . .when you know what a fulcrum IS.

as JFunky stated, READ and APPLY Cherri's response. That is the best advice you are going to get on this forum.
will do! thx
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Post by: b_jizzle20 on January 09, 2008, 03:11:18 PM
anyone know any specific exercises to strengthen the fulcrum? thx


If im interpreting your question correctly, then check out this video:
http://www.vicfirth.com/education/technique/02MQ.html

start at the halfway point (or you can watch the whole thing if u want)
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Post by: eugenio on January 09, 2008, 06:09:55 PM
the fulcrum for me stays quite loose. Its smaller fingers that stop it sliding about in my experiance, but its just enough to keep the stick in place.
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Post by: JFunky on January 09, 2008, 06:21:58 PM
These are my notes from the “Secret Weapons” DVD

Chapter 8: Fulcrum

1.   The point or support on which a lever pivots.
2.   An anatomical structure that acts as a hinge or a point of support.
3.   An agent through which vital powers are exercised.

The essential part of the Grip is the fulcrum. All grips and techniques rely on the fulcrum. The amount of pressure you apply should remain constant through the entire motion of a stroke. Do not squeeze and release the pressure in the stick while in motion (play). Find the sweet spot doing the Balancing exercise-by dribbling the stick with the other hand. Once you have find the sweet spot  (which is the point where the stick bounces with most economical efficiency) keep the fulcrum there.


Get this DVD, study it, absorb it and apply it.


*Your job is to go out and purchase JoJo Mayer's DVD.  The rest is up to you.  Good luck on your mission.  Remember....your Index and Thumb are counting on you*

...end thread.