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Title: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: JFunky on February 28, 2008, 10:01:20 AM
...I got this exercise a long time ago from a famous latin drummer by the name of Alvaro Lopez and then from Christopher Coleman and my good friend MENDOZA.

...play the Paradiddle rudiment with an accent on the first note.

       (16th Note Subdivision - 4/4 time)

     R L R R   L R L L   R L R R   L R L L


...now move the accent to the second note.


      R L R R     L R L L     R L R R     L R L L


...third note.

     R L R R     L R L L     R L R R     L R L L


...fourth note.


     R L R R     L R L L     R L R R     L R L L


...each exercise should be played at least 20 times at different tempos and dynamic volumes. (Use a metronome and work them out by listening to songs off of any CD.)  The point is to not only know them but make them "groove".

...this is what I'm working on and I just thought I'd share it with you all. 8)
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: JFunky on February 28, 2008, 10:30:48 AM
...if you want to make it a lot more challenging, play the above exercises with an Ostinato on the bottom.  That way you're working on 4 Way Coordination. 8)


...have your hi hat foot play 8th Notes and your right kick foot play half notes and play the exercises.  That's just an example to the many things one can work on.  (use a metronome.)
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: depondrums on February 28, 2008, 11:09:19 AM
...if you want to make it a lot more challenging, play the above exercises with an Ostinato on the bottom.  That way you're working on 4 Way Coordination.


...have your hi hat foot play 8th Notes and your right kick foot play half notes and play the exercises.  That's just an example to the many things one can work on.  (use a metronome.)

Thanks JFUNKY.
More knowledge being spread amongst the brethren.
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: juSe on February 28, 2008, 11:33:55 AM
Good stuff.
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: Metronome on February 28, 2008, 12:20:28 PM
Yeah dude.............me and my dude had been doin the accent moving stuff.....but we gotta do that ostinato now lol
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: JFunky on February 28, 2008, 03:18:37 PM
Yeah dude.............me and my dude had been doin the accent moving stuff.....but we gotta do that ostinato now lol


...I got another one for yall.  I'll be back. ;)
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: L.V.Drumma on February 28, 2008, 04:16:17 PM
Man this board.......had a meetin' with Jesus...... :-\
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: j_kay on February 28, 2008, 04:30:59 PM
Hush and contribute.  Are you rudimentally sound?  If not, get to learning and practicin'!   ;D
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: j_kay on February 28, 2008, 04:43:06 PM
Aiight - try this: play an eighth note, followed by two sixteenths and a quarter (one and ah two).  Right flam the eighth and diddle the two sixteenths with the right hand and play the quarter note with the left.  Keep the diddles low (of course). 

When you get it clean (key word) and up to speed, it'll sound like the intro of the composer, John Williams' Superman.  You can play it in applications of 4/4 and it also sounds great with 6/8 and 12/8 stuff.   
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: L.V.Drumma on February 28, 2008, 05:35:40 PM
Hush and contribute.  Are you rudimentally sound?  If not, get to learning and practicin'!   ;D

Yessuh *lmbo* Im on it chief. 8)
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: SabianKnight on February 28, 2008, 05:49:10 PM
Aiight - try this: play an eighth note, followed by two sixteenths and a quarter (one and ah two).  Right flam the eighth and diddle the two sixteenths with the right hand and play the quarter note with the left.  Keep the diddles low (of course). 

When you get it clean (key word) and up to speed, it'll sound like the intro of the composer, John Williams' Superman.  You can play it in applications of 4/4 and it also sounds great with 6/8 and 12/8 stuff.   

That could also be viewed/read , played as a inverted single stroke four with an over the bar feel because the quarter note on two could be substituted with a 16th followed by a dotted 8th rest or 8th and 16th rest or (3) 16th note rests.
ie 1 [16th note triplet starting on "&"] ending on the 2 ...if I am not mistaken  ?/? What say you Professor J_Kay?
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: soul_drummer on February 28, 2008, 11:45:58 PM
More knowledge...thanks JFunk...I'm about to get working on this....GB
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: j_kay on February 29, 2008, 05:35:27 AM
That could also be viewed/read , played as a inverted single stroke four with an over the bar feel because the quarter note on two could be substituted with a 16th followed by a dotted 8th rest or 8th and 16th rest or (3) 16th note rests.
ie 1 [16th note triplet starting on "&"] ending on the 2 ...if I am not mistaken  ?/? What say you Professor J_Kay?

Correct - it's crazy just like the same quick single stroke four "illusion" that I shown you at the crib (remember: rrll). 

Ay yall, we could go on for hours with all kinds of variations and talk about the theory behind it when we get together.  It's a trip, lol!
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: JFunky on March 01, 2008, 07:32:22 AM
Aiight - try this: play an eighth note, followed by two sixteenths and a quarter (one and ah two).  Right flam the eighth and diddle the two sixteenths with the right hand and play the quarter note with the left.  Keep the diddles low (of course). 

When you get it clean (key word) and up to speed, it'll sound like the intro of the composer, John Williams' Superman.  You can play it in applications of 4/4 and it also sounds great with 6/8 and 12/8 stuff.   

That could also be viewed/read , played as a inverted single stroke four with an over the bar feel because the quarter note on two could be substituted with a 16th followed by a dotted 8th rest or 8th and 16th rest or (3) 16th note rests.
ie 1 [16th note triplet starting on "&"] ending on the 2 ...if I am not mistaken  ?/? What say you Professor J_Kay?


...okay, now that's crazy.  I'm working it out right now.  (I have to do it slow as I'm reading.LOL)  Yall dudes and your formulas. lol
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: SabianKnight on March 01, 2008, 11:06:32 PM
There is a book called Basic Drumming (Revised and Expanded Edition) by Joel Rothman that just got turned on to that has a lot of these type  sticking patterns and rudimental exercises in it... like starting the rudiment on the up beat which gives it that over the bar/beat feel.
 
This book also has Left Hand Control exercises, Accent Studies, Rolls etc. I recommend it.

 
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: SabianKnight on March 01, 2008, 11:14:32 PM
Correct - it's crazy just like the same quick single stroke four "illusion" that I shown you at the crib (remember: rrll). 

Ay yall, we could go on for hours with all kinds of variations and talk about the theory behind it when we get together.  It's a trip, lol!

Another Great "Basic" is the Para-Triplet! Another way to pull that "over" feel as well as toggle between 3 and 4 note groupings and time signatures like 4 and 6 or 12 or 3 over 2 and 3 over 4. Fun stuff that kicks your butt however you will grow from it.
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: edough on March 02, 2008, 10:26:17 AM
Another Great "Basic" is the Para-Triplet! Another way to pull that "over" feel as well as toggle between 3 and 4 note groupings and time signatures like 4 and 6 or 12 or 3 over 2 and 3 over 4. Fun stuff that kicks your butt however you will grow from it.

this right here has helped me tremendously. Just thinking in terms of groupings has stretch my thinking and forced me to combine rudiment clusters that are starting to take form and sound like my own style.
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: SabianKnight on March 06, 2008, 12:41:01 AM
this right here has helped me tremendously. Just thinking in terms of groupings has stretch my thinking and forced me to combine rudiment clusters that are starting to take form and sound like my own style.

Phrasing (groupings) builds the vocabulary and makes the musician.
You are on your way. Explore some of the books mentioned they will help to expand you and direct your path. It's easier to get somewhere with a guide or map/directions (plan made plain on tables).
Title: Re: Move the Accent Around...
Post by: edough on March 06, 2008, 06:06:24 PM
Phrasing (groupings) builds the vocabulary and makes the musician.
You are on your way. Explore some of the books mentioned they will help to expand you and direct your path. It's easier to get somewhere with a guide or map/directions (plan made plain on tables).
yeah having a teacher also helps alot..