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Title: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: LaylaMonroe on March 10, 2008, 02:33:05 PM: I'm watching Dr. Phil, so this is hypothetical in the sense that it doesn't pertain to me, but I'm sure it's real for somebody, somewhere...

There's a young lady on there (16 yo) who has a history of being a pathelogical liar. She has been proven to falsely accuse her biological father of physically abusing her, and has told countless other lies as well. When she came to her mother & stepfather's house to flee her "abusive" father (which was later proven to be a lie), she began breaking all the rules of the house, so her stepfather went military on her and laid out some very strict rules. I mean VERY strict... I thought I had the market cornered on excessive strictness, but this dude makes me look like Lucy Lenient... lol.

Anyway, now she's accusing him of sexually molesting her. He vehemently denies it. Her mother, although she did take the correct steps to remove her daughter from any possible danger, believes that her daughter is doing this to get back at the stepfather, just like she did with her biological father.

What on earth is a parent to do in a situation like that???
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 10, 2008, 02:36:32 PM: Quote from: LaRue1212 on March 10, 2008, 02:33:05 PM
I'm watching Dr. Phil, so this is hypothetical in the sense that it doesn't pertain to me, but I'm sure it's real for somebody, somewhere...

There's a young lady on there (16 yo) who has a history of being a pathelogical liar. She has been proven to falsely accuse her biological father of physically abusing her, and has told countless other lies as well. When she came to her mother & stepfather's house to flee her "abusive" father (which was later proven to be a lie), she began breaking all the rules of the house, so her stepfather went military on her and laid out some very strict rules. I mean VERY strict... I thought I had the market cornered on excessive strictness, but this dude makes me look like Lucy Lenient... lol.

Anyway, now she's accusing him of sexually molesting her. He vehemently denies it. Her mother, although she did take the correct steps to remove her daughter from any possible danger, believes that her daughter is doing this to get back at the stepfather, just like she did with her biological father.

What on earth is a parent to do in a situation like that???

Send the child away.

She needs more help than the mother can give, at this point. Additionally, it becomes tedious and tiring always catching the child in lie after lie after lie.

The child, for the sake and sanity of the family, must go.
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: Redy2bUsed on March 10, 2008, 02:37:10 PM: Well I'll begin by saying this....

I have no idea. :-\ :D

Prayer comes to mind.
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: chevonee on March 10, 2008, 02:38:39 PM: Quote from: Redy2bUsed on March 10, 2008, 02:37:10 PM
Well I'll begin by saying this....

I have no idea. :-\ :D

Prayer comes to mind.
Co-sign!!!!
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: LaylaMonroe on March 10, 2008, 02:41:48 PM: Quote from: sjonathan02 on March 10, 2008, 02:36:32 PM
Send the child away.

She needs more help than the mother can give, at this point. Additionally, it becomes tedious and tiring always catching the child in lie after lie after lie.

The child, for the sake and sanity of the family, must go.

Yeah, that's what the mother did. It turns out the girl wanted to get married, so she did some sneaky stuff to get emancipated so that she could get married. But, there's a lot of resentment because although the mother found another place for the daughter to live until she could sort things out, the mother and her husband are still together, and the mother is standing by her husband. She simply does not believe her daughter is telling the truth.

Of course, the daughter stands by her word, and is angry at her mother.

What an ugly situation. I wouldn't wish that on my worse enemy.

Quote from: Redy2bUsed on March 10, 2008, 02:37:10 PM
Well I'll begin by saying this....

I have no idea. :-\ :D

Prayer comes to mind.

:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: SirTJ on March 10, 2008, 02:43:12 PM: Is this a situation that can't be helped? Like, is it some sort of mental illness or something? If so, there's not much the parent really can do outside of discerning the truth from the lies to the best of their abilities.

However, if she's lying habitually and KNOWS she's lying (in other words, she knows better, just won't do better), then...

(http://www.painfulpleasures.com/body_jewelry/gallery/Belt_Buckles/belt001-brown-chp-sm.jpg)

...the truth will come out eventually. As Jack Bauer stated, everyone has a breaking point.

But then again, I'm not a parent, so take that for what you will.
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 10, 2008, 02:43:21 PM: Quote from: LaRue1212 on March 10, 2008, 02:41:48 PM
Yeah, that's what the mother did. It turns out the girl wanted to get married, so she did some sneaky stuff to get emancipated so that she could get married. But, there's a lot of resentment because although the mother found another place for the daughter to live until she could sort things out, the mother and her husband are still together, and the mother is standing by her husband. She simply does not believe her daughter is telling the truth.

Of course, the daughter stands by her word, and is angry at her mother.

What an ugly situation. I wouldn't wish that on my worse enemy.

I absolutely agree.
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: under13 on March 10, 2008, 02:45:40 PM: Didnt one of your family members have a simular problem?

I would try counseling and Hypnosis.
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: LaylaMonroe on March 10, 2008, 02:48:07 PM: Quote from: SirTJ on March 10, 2008, 02:43:12 PM
Is this a situation that can't be helped? Like, is it some sort of mental illness or something? If so, there's not much the parent really can do outside of discerning the truth from the lies to the best of their abilities.

However, if she's lying habitually and KNOWS she's lying (in other words, she knows better, just won't do better), then...

([url]http://www.painfulpleasures.com/body_jewelry/gallery/Belt_Buckles/belt001-brown-chp-sm.jpg[/url])

...the truth will come out eventually. As Jack Bauer stated, everyone has a breaking point.

But then again, I'm not a parent, so take that for what you will.

For some people, it is a mental illness. I don't think this chick is one of those people, though. :-\ But, here's the thing... what if, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HER LIFE, she is telling the truth?? (Not that I think she is, but what if??)

My daughter is one of those kids who lied a lot in her early teens. One of my greatest concerns was protecting MYSELF from ever having to make the decision to believe her or a male family member or friend or church member or whatever. I was always concerned about that, and went to great lengths to keep her away from any unsupervised situations with a man because I would truly not know who to believe. :-\

Oh, and as much as I'm a fan for the belt, it doesn't work for a lying tongue... and psychologically, it's not a good idea for a child over the age of 12.
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 10, 2008, 02:53:41 PM: Quote from: LaRue1212 on March 10, 2008, 02:48:07 PM
For some people, it is a mental illness. I don't think this chick is one of those people, though. :-\ But, here's the thing... what if, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HER LIFE, she is telling the truth?? (Not that I think she is, but what if??)

My daughter is one of those kids who lied a lot in her early teens. One of my greatest concerns was protecting MYSELF from ever having to make the decision to believe her or a male family member or friend or church member or whatever. I was always concerned about that, and went to great lengths to keep her away from any unsupervised situations with a man because I would truly not know who to believe. :-\

Oh, and as much as I'm a fan for the belt, it doesn't work for a lying tongue... and psychologically, it's not a good idea for a child over the age of 12.

Remember the story of the little boy who cried wolf? Sad as it is to say, there ya go. :-\

And, she'd have to have some IRREFUTABLE proof. Ironclad. Rock solid. Open and shut proof of her allegations. Other than that, she. must. go.
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: Jmanley1116 on March 10, 2008, 03:18:13 PM: Quote from: SirTJ on March 10, 2008, 02:43:12 PM
Is this a situation that can't be helped? Like, is it some sort of mental illness or something? If so, there's not much the parent really can do outside of discerning the truth from the lies to the best of their abilities.

However, if she's lying habitually and KNOWS she's lying (in other words, she knows better, just won't do better), then...

([url]http://www.painfulpleasures.com/body_jewelry/gallery/Belt_Buckles/belt001-brown-chp-sm.jpg[/url])

...the truth will come out eventually. As Jack Bauer stated, everyone has a breaking point.

But then again, I'm not a parent, so take that for what you will.

**You told Harpo to beat me?**
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: 3rd-Day on March 10, 2008, 03:20:59 PM: Quote from: LaRue1212 on March 10, 2008, 02:33:05 PM
I'm watching Dr. Phil, so this is hypothetical in the sense that it doesn't pertain to me, but I'm sure it's real for somebody, somewhere...

There's a young lady on there (16 yo) who has a history of being a pathelogical liar. She has been proven to falsely accuse her biological father of physically abusing her, and has told countless other lies as well. When she came to her mother & stepfather's house to flee her "abusive" father (which was later proven to be a lie), she began breaking all the rules of the house, so her stepfather went military on her and laid out some very strict rules. I mean VERY strict... I thought I had the market cornered on excessive strictness, but this dude makes me look like Lucy Lenient... lol.

Anyway, now she's accusing him of sexually molesting her. He vehemently denies it. Her mother, although she did take the correct steps to remove her daughter from any possible danger, believes that her daughter is doing this to get back at the stepfather, just like she did with her biological father.

What on earth is a parent to do in a situation like that???

Send her back home to the first father!
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: nessalynn77 on March 10, 2008, 03:27:48 PM: I agree with sjon, if this one and only time she is telling the truth, then she should learn a very valuable lesson about "crying wolf".

Because she told this same lie before, I highly doubt her story is true. If it is, she has made it impossible to believe her.

I may feel differently if the stepdad had any history of molestation, that would make it more difficult.
Title: Re: Difficult Subject/Question
Post by: rochelle33 on March 10, 2008, 03:53:10 PM: I agree the girl should be sent away to some other place. What about Dr. Phil? He has that Dr. Phil House. Maybe she should go there.