Hi there,
I need your help:
Our church building has been completed & needs to be furnished.
The people voted for tiles instead of the carpet on the floor..
So I'm part of the team tasked to find out what can be done to prevent echoes...So far the walls are just bricks & the interior of the main worship area is pretty much rectangular...it's about 1 & 1/2 storeys high & the dimensions are about 80m * 40 (L*B)..
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,How much money is available? You could have sound absorbing panels installed on the walls. You would need a LOT of them however. You can also install a similar type of panel on the ceiling or a series of baffle type pannels which would hang from the ceiling. All of these options can be really expensive for a large building.
I need your help:
Our church building has been completed & needs to be furnished.
The people voted for tiles instead of the carpet on the floor..
So I'm part of the team tasked to find out what can be done to prevent echoes...So far the walls are just bricks & the interior of the main worship area is pretty much rectangular...it's about 1 & 1/2 storeys high & the dimensions are about 80m * 40 (L*B)..
Thanks in advance.
Nevernind the sound. Tile floors in a church. Aint that a safety hazzard?? If someone fell out in spirit and the ushers aint on top of their game, they could bust their head. And God forbid if somebody decides they feel like running around the church, they can slip on that tile and bust both knee caps and a rib. Yall must plan on wearing sneakers with the suits and skirts like the 80s!
I hope your church got a looooootttttt of insurance money, cuz yall gonna need it.Say word!
I hope your church got a looooootttttt of insurance money, cuz yall gonna need it.They probably aren't sue happy in South Africa like they are here in the states. Only in America ;D
Nevernind the sound. Tile floors in a church. Aint that a safety hazzard?? If someone fell out in spirit and the ushers aint on top of their game, they could bust their head. And God forbid if somebody decides they feel like running around the church, they can slip on that tile and bust both knee caps and a rib. Yall must plan on wearing sneakers with the suits and skirts like the 80s!
How much money is available? You could have sound absorbing panels installed on the walls. You would need a LOT of them however. You can also install a similar type of panel on the ceiling or a series of baffle type pannels which would hang from the ceiling. All of these options can be really expensive for a large building.
They probably aren't sue happy in South Africa like they are here in the states. Only in America ;D
...I would sit who is ever making the decisions down NOW.......before they make any more decisions....and explain to them that building should be done as a complete vision!..each part fullfilling a purpose!!!...Even if things are done fare apart.....they are gunna pay 10 times more trying to fix each decision that is not well thought out!
....they need to stop, drop and roll....now! :o ;D >:( :o
I hope your church got a looooootttttt of insurance money, cuz yall gonna need it.
I agree.
If I were you, and in this situation here in the US, I would have a sound expert come and prepare an estimate of what it would cost to achieve optimal sound (or whatever the correct lingo is) in that particular building with tiled floors. I would then present a formal recommendation to the pastor and/or Board of Directors, along with the expert's estimate.
I've been faced with similar situations (although I was on the other side of the issue). When musicians or other folks who know their craft better than I do come to me with hard-core facts, substantiated by other experts, it's hard for me to ignore an expert opinion, to opt for what I think LOOKS better or costs less.
I have an idea. They should start a tap dancing ministry.
Some churches could care less about stuff like that, and dont consult the people who know about music. Some are too cheap to pay for it and sadly many congregations dont have people who know about that kinda stuff. But you get what you pay for.
Are you sure you meant to quote me? I'm not sure I understand how this is in response to anything I said... maybe I just missed something. :-\
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If I were you, and in this situation here in the US, I would have a sound expert come and prepare an estimate of what it would cost to achieve optimal sound (or whatever the correct lingo is) in that particular building with tiled floors. I would then present a formal recommendation to the pastor and/or Board of Directors, along with the expert's estimate.
Some churches could care less about stuff like that, and dont consult the people who know about music. Some are too cheap to pay for it and sadly many congregations dont have people who know about that kinda stuff. But you get what you pay for.
Yes he did. You said;
He replied;
Let the "OOOOOHHHHHHH NOW I GEDDIT!!" ensue. :) :) :)
That's why it didn't make sense to me....
I realize that some churches don't care about that kind of stuff, and don't consult the people who know about music (which is obviously what happened at Musallio's church). I also know that some churches don't have people who know about that kinda stuff...
**selah**
**speaking slowly**
Which is why I suggested that MUSALLIO (not the church) have an (OUTSIDE) expert come to the church and provide an estimate of what it would cost to achieve the sound he wants, and present that to the church leadership.
**selah**
If Musallio had already done that to no avail, then U13's response would make a lot more sense. Otherwise, it's just... well... nevermind. :-\
Hmm... to me his statement makes perfect sense. You advocate for the church to call in experts. He says that some churches don't CARE to call in experts.
Seems pretty durn clear to me.
That's why it didn't make sense to me....
I realize that some churches don't care about that kind of stuff, and don't consult the people who know about music (which is obviously what happened at Musallio's church). I also know that some churches don't have people who know about that kinda stuff...
**selah**
**speaking slowly**
Which is why I suggested that MUSALLIO (not the church) have an (OUTSIDE) expert come to the church and provide an estimate of what it would cost to achieve the sound he wants, and present that to the church leadership.
**selah**
If Musallio had already done that to no avail, then U13's response would make a lot more sense. Otherwise, it's just... well... nevermind. :-\
With some folks, someone on the outside has to say it in order for the know-it-alls to hold it true. I dealt with this at my church when I was the sound man. There were so many things that were needed because they ignored my initial suggestions when the system was being bought. Then they want to constantly ask me why so many things were going wrong. I finally just got fed up and stepped down. Now they've spent all of this extra money because someone with much less knowledge stated that they needed some of the very same basic things I pleaded for. I could have saved them so much money but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!.
They probably aren't sue happy in South Africa like they are here in the states. Only in America ;D
This is why it's so "clear" to you...
I did not advocate for the church to call in experts.
**I'll wait here while you re-read what I typed**
Okay, you back now?
Good.
As you just saw from your re-reading of my words, I suggested that MUSALLIO (not "the church") call in an expert and PRESENT IT TO "the church."
If you still don't understand the difference between what I'm saying and what you're saying, let's just agree to disagree. 'kay? I don't wanna go back and forth over something so very minor (or over something that doesn't affect me personally... or over something with someone to whom I wasn't really talking anyway... lol) :-\
Note to self: Never argue with wimins. :-\ :-\:D :D ;D :D ;D
T-Block, what were those comments U were reserving about themidiroom's insurance statement? ;D
Trust me man, u don't wanna know. I actually need to go repent for it right now, LOL.
They must have been very nasty if they command repentance...
They were kind of judgemental thoughts. I'm learning more and more to think before I speak.
I figured so..But the good thing about Christ is He's arms are always open to a repenting soul.
God bless ya 4 coming clean..