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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Keyboard / Piano => Topic started by: under13 on March 21, 2008, 01:03:18 PM
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What is the best Piano sound of all time?
My top 3 are
1 Kurzweil Digital Piano
2 Roland XP-80
3 Motif ES8
And Korg makes the worst sounding pianos ever.
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What is the best Piano sound of all time?
And Korg makes the worst sounding pianos ever.
troof...
even the casio px-series sounds better.
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The best of all time would probably be the Kurzweil K-250 circa mid 80's I should have bought one when I had the chance.
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I love the Power Grand on the Motif 8. I use a MKS 20 with my PC 88. Its creates a nice layer. I also like the RD 500. The best that I heard was on a Plug in I believe by EastWest.
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What is the best Piano sound of all time?
My top 3 are
1 Kurzweil Digital Piano
2 Roland XP-80
3 Motif ES8
And Korg makes the worst sounding pianos ever.
I know I may have already asked you this but I forgot what the answer was. What is your favorite piano sound on the MO8? What on the MO8 sounds similar to this http://www.gospelmusicians.com/media/1157/James_fortune/
Thanks in advance for your help ;)
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what is the best sound on the casio wk series??
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i think the casio wk 3300 probably makes the best piano sounds
but i really love the E. Piano sounds more than the regular piano sounds; sounds more jazzy
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The best sounding acoustic piano on an electronic that I have heard so far is the newest Performance Controller from Kurzweil - the PC3X. Right now, there are only about 70 of these in the US, general release should be in the next couple of weeks.
I have been using a Kurzweil PC2X for the past couple of years, the Triple Strike Piano variations on it were my previous favorite.
I received one of the very first of the new PC3X Friday. Compared to the PC2X, it just sounds more detailed. The sustain on the upper range is considerably extended (when sustain pedal is used), more like an acoustic grand. The biggest difference though was when I push it a bit. The older Kurzweil would play all the way from pp to a strong f, but just kind of ran out of range. The new one just goes to a stronger ff or even fff. The dynamic range has been expanded.
This is the first totally new high end instrument from Kurzweil for about 12 years. I haven't even had time to listen to all the sounds yet. Now, there is still a full Orchestral ROM PLUS a new Strings ROM - so many different variations in sound. Also a new virtual Analog synth built right into the new VAST operating system.
The new keyboard (new design - no lead used to meet EU regulations) has a different feel also. It still feels like a moderately strong piano action, but the "klunk" from the key weights is much quieter. Still seems to have a good action for playing.
Also - the basses - first instrument since my very old K2000VP that really has a solid old-school bass that blends in the mix but has that deep ability to walk empty cups right off tables.
I've only sold ONE of the Kurzweils that I have ever bought - I had a chance to get a PC2X at a very attractive price used, bought it, and sold my SP88X stage piano. This instrument is used in my home living room for all three players in the family.
At church, I have a 15 year old K2000VP and a PC2 (76 key). My shop/studio has the new PC3X and a K2661. I haven't found anything yet musically that I can't do with at least one of them.
If money was absolutely no object, the Bosendorfer CEFS electronic will probably be the finest sounding electronic ever built. It uses the complete action including hammers of a Bosendorfer Imperial Grand; into a very complex computer system. In final test now, expected release very soon. Price not yet released - estimated to be above 50,000 euro. Defined purpose is to produce a world class instrument that is portable for concert artists to use for both practice and concerts.
Jim
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what is the best sound on the casio wk series??
I must say that each time after playing a Roland, I'm not happy with the Casio grand piano sound--it's just not as solid as the Rolands..
But nonetheless, if you just listen to a Casio, I have to agree with amandaag--it has the best piano sounds ;D
I like the grand piano on 000, but Sometimes I prefer the piano on 402 in the default settings with the DSP effects..
Another 1 i like is 024 (some oct piano or something)..
& to the main question of board with best sounds..I know the Kurzs sound good, but I must take my cap off for the Roland RD 700.
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Fantom Ultimate Grand piano sound
Roland Digital pianos already have good sounds, and the Fantom is built with the same technology as the Roland Digital pianos, to get that clean piano sound.
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I must say that each time after playing a Roland, I'm not happy with the Casio grand piano sound--it's just not as solid as the Rolands..
But nonetheless, if you just listen to a Casio, I have to agree with amandaag--it has the best piano sounds ;D
I like the grand piano on 000, but Sometimes I prefer the piano on 402 in the default settings with the DSP effects..
Another 1 i like is 024 (some oct piano or something)..
& to the main question of board with best sounds..I know the Kurzs sound good, but I must take my cap off for the Roland RD 700.
yeah on the casio wk 3300 series, i kinda think the 000 grand piano is not as it should be, but i like the 404 electronic piano sound, i use that alot.
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The casio piano ha way to much reverb. maybe if you lower the reverb amount, it will sound better.
What I did, was layer the piano sound, with the electic piano 019, and it sounds good enough
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The casio piano ha way to much reverb. maybe if you lower the reverb amount, it will sound better.
What I did, was layer the piano sound, with the electic piano 019, and it sounds good enough
A lot of the piano sounds tend to overdo it on the decay times for the various keys. Of course you can adjust that if you like.
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Anyone of you heard of GEM Real Piano?
i know it is a bit on the cheap side of things, but it sounds very real to me.
on the soft side, i heard the art vista piano, and was amazed! i think it is actually the best soft piano, to my ears.
Luca
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yeah on the casio wk 3300 series, i kinda think the 000 grand piano is not as it should be, but i like the 404 electronic piano sound, i use that alot.
yeah 404 is a cute sound..& yeah U13, some piano sounds do have some reverb, especially if U add the DSP effects.
I like sound 044 as well..I think it's the synth electric piano / stringE.Piano..sounds nice 2 me.
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yeah 404 is a cute sound..& yeah U13, some piano sounds do have some reverb, especially if U add the DSP effects.
I like sound 044 as well..I think it's the synth electric piano / stringE.Piano..sounds nice 2 me.
oh yea! strings/e.piano sound are cool as well as the synth/ e.piano sound. i barely use them though.
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How could I forget to mention the Tremelo Piano on #033 (i think :-\)..
Now that's a very good sound if used in proper songs..especially if it's connected onto loudspeakers..
It's a really professional sound..i.m.o.
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How could I forget to mention the Tremelo Piano on #033 (i think :-\)..
Now that's a very good sound if used in proper songs..especially if it's connected onto loudspeakers..
It's a really professional sound..i.m.o.
Yeah, the casio sounds 5 times better on a decent sound system
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Yeah, the casio sounds 5 times better on a decent sound system
So what is your favorite piano sound on the MO8?
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So what is your favorite piano sound on the MO8?
So what is your favorite piano sound on the MO8?
I'm not really sure. The Motif at church is hooked up to a crappy speaker, so I cant really judge them beause of the nasty distortion. But I think I usually use the concert grand. I'll try to make a note of which one I like best, the next time I go there
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The best sounding acoustic piano on an electronic that I have heard so far is the newest Performance Controller from Kurzweil - the PC3X. Right now, there are only about 70 of these in the US, general release should be in the next couple of weeks.
I have been using a Kurzweil PC2X for the past couple of years, the Triple Strike Piano variations on it were my previous favorite.
I received one of the very first of the new PC3X Friday. Compared to the PC2X, it just sounds more detailed. The sustain on the upper range is considerably extended (when sustain pedal is used), more like an acoustic grand. The biggest difference though was when I push it a bit. The older Kurzweil would play all the way from pp to a strong f, but just kind of ran out of range. The new one just goes to a stronger ff or even fff. The dynamic range has been expanded.
This is the first totally new high end instrument from Kurzweil for about 12 years. I haven't even had time to listen to all the sounds yet. Now, there is still a full Orchestral ROM PLUS a new Strings ROM - so many different variations in sound. Also a new virtual Analog synth built right into the new VAST operating system.
The new keyboard (new design - no lead used to meet EU regulations) has a different feel also. It still feels like a moderately strong piano action, but the "klunk" from the key weights is much quieter. Still seems to have a good action for playing.
Also - the basses - first instrument since my very old K2000VP that really has a solid old-school bass that blends in the mix but has that deep ability to walk empty cups right off tables.
I've only sold ONE of the Kurzweils that I have ever bought - I had a chance to get a PC2X at a very attractive price used, bought it, and sold my SP88X stage piano. This instrument is used in my home living room for all three players in the family.
At church, I have a 15 year old K2000VP and a PC2 (76 key). My shop/studio has the new PC3X and a K2661. I haven't found anything yet musically that I can't do with at least one of them.
If money was absolutely no object, the Bosendorfer CEFS electronic will probably be the finest sounding electronic ever built. It uses the complete action including hammers of a Bosendorfer Imperial Grand; into a very complex computer system. In final test now, expected release very soon. Price not yet released - estimated to be above 50,000 euro. Defined purpose is to produce a world class instrument that is portable for concert artists to use for both practice and concerts.
Jim
Thanks for the details about these boards. I've played a PC88 for years and loved it, but I've hated its pianos. A couple of years back, I was very impressed by the triple strike piano on the PC2X, but couldn't justify upgrading. Now I have my sights on the PC3X.
-Glo
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My top three are:
1. Korg Triton...Yes Triton!...(Triton dominated the nu era right before the Motif classic).
2. Motif Classic (Natural Grand)
3.Roland RD 700
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1.roland xp series
2.yamaha motif series
3.kurzweil
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1. Korg Triton...Yes Triton!...(Triton dominated the nu era right before the Motif classic).
The Triton was popular at first because Yamaha's predecessor to the Motif(EX series) was buggy and earned a bad reputation. The sounds were awesome however.
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the Ex was dope, but the WORST as far as operation.
The triton was dope because it WORKED. EASILY. Piano was (and is) wack. I sold plemty of em.
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I have to agree that Korg has the WORST piano sounds. We have one at church, and it just sounds sooo bad next to that Roland RD 700 piano sound! We only use it as the secondary board for strings and even the organ sounds.
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I'm not really sure. The Motif at church is hooked up to a crappy speaker, so I cant really judge them beause of the nasty distortion. But I think I usually use the concert grand. I'll try to make a note of which one I like best, the next time I go there
i like the rock brite piano sound on the mo.
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i like the rock brite piano sound on the mo.
I think thats one of the worst I've ever heard. To me it just sounds corny .
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yea when i worked at guitar center i swear the tritons was outselling the motif i guess it was ppl he was doing recording but the motif sold just to church folk i always thought that was weird
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Fantom Ultimate Grand piano sound
Umm...i don't think so. We use a Fantom in church and i HATE teh piano sounds on it. The MO8 Ultimate Grand just sounds so much better. What i hate about the Fantom piano sounds is that they lose power going towards the higher registers. It just fades out.
I do like the Fantom's guitar sounds. It has this great nylon guitar sound, Double Nylon or something. It is AWESOME cuz if you hit the keys harder, it sounds like its a guitar player sliding across the board. I love it.
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hands down the fantom pianos are better than the motif they sound more realistic
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hands down the fantom pianos are better than the motif they sound more realistic
I see i am going to have to perform a physical act that will cause you intense pain. ;D ;D
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I see i am going to have to perform a physical act that will cause you intense pain. ;D ;D
dont get me wrong the motif has some pianos that sound better than the fantoms but overall the fantom has the motif beat in my opinion of playing both and working at the guitar center at the time
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dont get me wrong the motif has some pianos that sound better than the fantoms but overall the fantom has the motif beat in my opinion of playing both and working at the guitar center at the time
Man, why do you bow down to a bully like him ?/?
People like him like "taking it by force" ;D
Now I know whose name should be engraved in the "LGM TROUBLEMAKERS" Scripts ;D
Reg, I propose a solution to you:
You should just get a thin, sharp, shiny object that you can slide across his wrists so that he will not be able to exert the physical pain on you ;) (Still on for the show Fenny ;D :P)
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Man, why do you bow down to a bully like him ?/?
If i were you, i would watch my back for the next couple of days. I got cousins in S.Africa. It'll be a shame if you ran across one of them and your face should "accidentally" fall on one of their fists. 8)
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If i were you, i would watch my back for the next couple of days. I got cousins in S.Africa. It'll be a shame if you ran across one of them and your face should "accidentally" fall on one of their fists. 8)
:'( :'( I'm hiring my cousin's VIP bodyguard unit to watch my back...Your cousins better be connected because my cousin's bodyguards' boots like to "reach out"..
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:'( :'( I'm hiring my cousin's VIP bodyguard unit to watch my back...Your cousins better be connected because my cousin's bodyguards' boots like to "reach out"..
Just a friendly warning man, just a friendly warning.
On another note, S.African guitar players are SICK!!!!! I have this CD by some group called Blk Sonshine, its all guitar stuff. It is simply fantastic.
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dont get me wrong the motif has some pianos that sound better than the fantoms but overall the fantom has the motif beat in my opinion of playing both and working at the guitar center at the time
Ummm we were talking about who has the best piano. ::) Let's stay on task people. ;D
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Any Motif keyboard.
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Any Motif keyboard.
Blessed be you and yours forever. Amen!!!
hands down the fantom pianos are better than the motif they sound more realistic
Sacrifice the infidel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm biased and I'm a Roland Man lol...I would say between the Roland MKS 20 piano sounds and the Roland P 330 piano sounds.
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Casio Brands!
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My top 5 are
1.Kurzweil K2600 Grand Piano
2.Yamaha Motif Power Grand
3.Roland Mks 20 Piano 1
4.Roland G G Grand
5.Korg Triton le Euro Grand
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The Yamaha Motif Full Grand.
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I am in LOVE with "natural" and "intimate" on the yamaha s90 es.... You hear me, what I said?! In.LOVE!!!!
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My experience with the Roland Fantom X series that the punch piano and the ultimate grand has a nice and realistice sounds... Compared to my old Yamah with the Grand Piano.. but that also was a cheap keyboard!!...lol ::) ?/? 8) :o :( >:( :-X
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I like my Yamaha YPG-625(yes cheap board, under $1000 I know but it works for me and it doesn't sound bad at all) put that on the Warm Grand(003) and I think it sounds great.
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Roland MKS 20 Piano 1
Roland RD700SX Grand RD
Yamaha MO8 Ballad Keys
Kurzweil PC88 Stereo Grand
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Any Grand Piano on any high-end Synth/Workstation that allows you to edit your presets. :P
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kurzweil pc88 hands down
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#1 of all time, the Natural S patch on the Yamaha S90ES!!!!
(you can hear it being played here: http://www.myspace.com/tylerstannard (http://www.myspace.com/tylerstannard))
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Roland RD700SX Grand RD
AMEN just used it this morning
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Of all time? I still say the Kurzweil K250
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The s90es has a beutiful piano sound.
To bad the action of the keys make me not want to play it.
Overall better piano sound as of right now IMO, and best keys feel:
Roland RD-700GX.
Anyone played that keyboard yet?
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I stack a P330, a Motif Rack, and a JV-1080. Beautiful sounds!!!!!
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I'm biased and I'm a Roland Man lol...I would say between the Roland MKS 20 piano sounds and the Roland P 330 piano sounds.
Word on the streets is that you've been eyeing the other side of the street! *cough*motif rack*cough* :D
I am in LOVE with "natural" and "intimate" on the yamaha s90 es.... You hear me, what I said?! In.LOVE!!!!
Me too. I used "natural" in my earlier youtube videos.
#1 of all time, the Natural S patch on the Yamaha S90ES!!!!
(you can hear it being played here: [url]http://www.myspace.com/tylerstannard[/url] ([url]http://www.myspace.com/tylerstannard[/url]))
Natural is sweet. But don't sleep on Full Grand...especially once you turn some of the reverb down (bring the fourth slider down).
The s90es has a beutiful piano sound.
To bad the action of the keys make me not want to play it.
Overall better piano sound as of right now IMO, and best keys feel:
Roland RD-700GX.
Anyone played that keyboard yet?
The feel of the S90ES was one of the main reasons I bought it over the RD-700sx. I think the feel went bad to worse from the RD-700sx to the 700gx. The GX feels more like the Fantom G which is THE WORST.
I stack a P330, a Motif Rack, and a JV-1080. Beautiful sounds!!!!!
I have a similar set up. MKS-20, Motif 7 (on the road) or S90ES (at home), and I just bought a JV-1080. I'll be receiving it today.
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I just bought a JV-1080. I'll be receiving it today.
What prompted you to buy a JV1080 after all these years? I've had mine for about 8 years; using it less and less.
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1080 still got some good sounds for live use. (WestCoast ep, Some brass sounds come to mind)
I still keep my 5080 just for that.
shoot, i still use my jv-880.
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1080 still got some good sounds for live use. (WestCoast ep, Some brass sounds come to mind)
I still keep my 5080 just for that.
shoot, i still use my jv-880.
I got the 880 as well! You got the expansion boards as well? I found some on ebay and didn't jump on them.
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1080 still got some good sounds for live use. (WestCoast ep, Some brass sounds come to mind)
I still keep my 5080 just for that.
shoot, i still use my jv-880.
I'm not saying it has not use. I use mine for some stuff but I probably wouldn't buy one now if I didn't already have it.
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What prompted you to buy a JV1080 after all these years? I've had mine for about 8 years; using it less and less.
HUGO BASS!!!
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HUGO BASS!!!
I've heard better... 8) :D
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I've heard better... 8) :D
I don't use it for bass. I changed it from solo to poly and I use it to play keys....layered with EP 2 from the MKS-20. :D
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I don't use it for bass. I changed it from solo to poly and I use it to play keys....layered with EP 2 from the MKS-20. :D
You got to put a small clip of that combo!
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You got to put a small clip of that combo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWVx-vUJlY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWVx-vUJlY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENwuRm1BUdE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENwuRm1BUdE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5lu7Lty13M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5lu7Lty13M)
That's what it sounds like.
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That sound (hugo bass) on the XP series (XP 50 and above)
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That sound (hugo bass) on the XP series (XP 50 and above)
Yep! One of my boys wanted to figure out what sound Mike Bereal was using for the longest. But that joker has had an XP-80 for a minute now. :D
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I got the 880 as well! You got the expansion boards as well? I found some on ebay and didn't jump on them.
i got expansion boards,(60's/70's, orchestral, dance) but they're in the 5080. incidentally, I never use them anymore, cuz I work with like 4 synths at once. Plus i dont see using the dance card in service.....
HUGO BASS!!!
im partial to wonder bass, myself.
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how about the new "V" piano from roland?their clips sound pretty good
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Motif XS8 ;) 8)
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Yamaha P90
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Some mix or amp settings can fool you into to thinking that a piano sound sucks. Just food for thought. The S90es is a beast.