Please tell me somebody......what do people think this Constantine person is so important?
The character played by Keanu Reeves? ?/? :-\
The character played by Keanu Reeves? ?/? :-\
You stay havin' jokes!
Please tell me somebody......what do people think this Constantine person is so important?Why do you ask?
Why do you ask?
My guess is you've run into someone or something acting as if Constantine canonized the bible or something. Like Da Vinci Code.
If that's the case people of this sort place the emphasis on the wrong parts.
Like the council of Nicea. It was done in order to make sure everyone was on the same page, Constantine did pay for it and it was even held at his summer home, but he had nothing to do with what was decided there.
Man where'd you get tat kind of info.?Like two years ago I read up on all of this kind of stuff.
Like two years ago I read up on all of this kind of stuff.
why?
Thanks. :)
If you don't mind me asking where did the Constantine question come from?
I was casting my pearls before the swine on youtube. This guy was attacking the Christian Faith.Oh, the irony in that little bit about history.
Talking some stuff about "Paulism" (??) being a "far cry" from the treachings of Jesus an' stuff like that...... you know them small lies and assumptions about your savior that get you goin'!!!
Finally he made mention of Constantine......an' I was like who is Constantine? He replied saying................
"You're talking about Christianity and don't know who Constantine is? If that's true, I see why there is such a mass of mislead people in the world. history is an important thing when dealing with religion............."
This lead me to look up Constantine (so I could throw away some more of my pearls proving that I'm still saved Constantine or none ;D)
I only really asked on here because I wanted to know what the world thought was so important about Constantine. I really already knew this Constantine character wasn't important since God saved me personally a few years back without me ever knowing a thing about any Constantine!
Oh, the irony in that little bit about history.
Francis Bacon said "A little philosophy inclineth men's minds to atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds to religion..." I think you can substitute philosophy here with history.
Even had you corrected him on the issues over Paul (a skeptic favorite) and Constantine...he would've had something else. And then something else...
Someone attacking anothers religion on youtube, and not even IN the video, but in the comments, isn't really searching for the truth.
wow all this time i thiught it was just a movie
nah, the Roman emperor.
(interesting judeo-christian fiction, tho)
Hmph! I don't EVER argue with YouTube denizens. Those are a different breed of animal and it would be a waste of my time to try and argue with them. You'd just get unnecessarily annoyed.
I have neither the time nor the inclination. ::)CO_SIGN!!!
Constantine was raised pagan and was pagan most of his life. He was an avid sun worshipper. However, he nominally accepted Christianity and was baptized just before he died. But Christianity did not replace paganism in his empire, but rather, Christianity adopted paganism. Christians were persecuted before Constantine accepted Christianity but afterwards, it was cool. But the problem is the form of Christianity that followed.Did you copy and paste that from the zeitgeist web site or something?
Constantine converted sun-worshipping pagans to Christianity by fusing pagan symbols, rituals and dates into a hybrid religion. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Remember the Greek sun god helios....hence halo....and sol in Roman mythology...or sol invictus...the "unconquerable sun." Images of Isis nursing her son Horus were recast as Mary and baby Jesus. The Persian sun god Mithra was said to have been born on Dec. 25..."natalis invicti"...rebirth of the winter sun, unconquered by the rigors of the season. That of course was the obvious choice for Christmas even though there's no biblical evidence that we as Christians should commemorate the birth of Jesus.
Sunday (first day of the week) was also a very holy day to pagan sun worshipping cultures. Where as throughout the entire bible, God's people observed the seventh day of the week as His holy day. But Constantine, in an Edict back in A.D. 321 declared Sunday as the official day of rest on which markets were banned and public offices were closed (contrary to Ex. 20:8-11, Neh. 13:15-21). Furthermore...a few years later at the Council of Laodicea, they outlawed the observance of the seventh-day sabbath: "Christians should not Judaize and should not be idle on the Sabbath, but should work on that day; they should, however, particularly reverence the Lord’s day and, if possible, not work on it, because they were Christians" (Canon 29 [A.D. 360]).
After Constantine "accepted" Christianity and amalgamated it with paganism, the persecution of Christians did not cease. Christians that kept the true faith and rejected this spurious new faith continued to give themselves up as martyrs who loved not their lives unto death.
Throughout the bible, God's relationship with his church is likened to that of a marriage (See story of Hosea and Gomer, parable of the 10 virgins, etc). Yet in Revelation, God talks about a church that has played the harlot...that has committed spiritual adultery against God. That's why some pagans laugh at most strains of Christianity. I saw a bumper sticker one time that said something about Christianity having pagan footprints.
Did you copy and paste that from the zeitgeist web site or something?
Because most of that is half truths.
Did you copy and paste that from the zeitgeist web site or something?
Because most of that is half truths.
Did you copy and paste that from the zeitgeist web site or something?
Because most of that is half truths.
I'm going to have to look up the sabbath thing, which is weird because I JUST read something about that yesterday.
1) In the defense of freemason his perspectives is not based on half truths.
2) I'll finish this later in the P.M.
In the defense of freemason his perspectives is not based on half truths.I corrected myself in the next post.
Sorry i had to alter your post a bit.I think by "pm" he meant in the afternoon.
1) I SUSPECTED AS MUCH. See i was thinking maybe Fred Mason III or something like that.
2) NO!!!! Finish it here please. Don't worry about steppin' on toes man. Finish it here.
I liked what you said earlier until you mentioned Francis Bacon. Mr. Bacon don't sit well with me in a religious discussion. To me, it's like throwing blood into the water for sharks. Nevertheless, I was able to move on and still accept your comment.It was just a quote, I'm not endorsing or sharing all of his beliefs.
Well see look here.
I had a sermon coming to me last night and that was exactly what I was talking about.
One of my side notes was...............The move of God will never be mainstream!!!!!
That is to say mainstream culture will never accept the true Gospel. So you got to change it!!!! which is exactly what they've done.........
Actually if I had to give the sermon a title it would be "The Counterfiet God".
Sorry i had to alter your post a bit.
1) I SUSPECTED AS MUCH. See i was thinking maybe Fred Mason III or something like that.
Who is Freemason? My name is Fred Mason, III hence "fmason3"....in no way related to freemasonry...
The Freemason post disturbed me in general because it was almost lifted straight from the Da Vinci Code.
In case ya'll missed it...haha...umm, apri fools? ;)I AM GOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!
I've never read the Da Vinci Code, but I do know Fred is correct in everything he just stated. Go check out any college survey history text book concerning Western Civ or anything about the history of the early Christian church.I know my history of the early church.
haha...umm, apri fools? ;)I know my history of the early church.
And again, my problem wasn't so much with the data as it was with the semantics.
I see posts like that all the time...from skeptics.
I was just trying to point out I wouldn't say things quite the way he said them because of how they can be easily twisted.
Ok. So, in other words, you're giving your opinion of how history should look, because you don't agree with it?Note that I'm not trying to call anyone out. I'm trying to help him and others out. If I was saying inaccurate things I would want someone to correct me.