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Title: Good ending progressions
Post by: Fenix on April 08, 2008, 08:12:24 AM
I've been looking for more innovative ways of ending my songs, other than going from V to the I.

Does anyone have ideas on progressions i can use to end a song. There is this one progression that gospel musicians use a lot, an example is in Kirk Franklin's song (Still In Control). Its like going from II III IV V or something like that. Thanks ya'll.
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 08, 2008, 08:58:55 AM
I've been looking for more innovative ways of ending my songs, other than going from V to the I.

Does anyone have ideas on progressions i can use to end a song. There is this one progression that gospel musicians use a lot, an example is in Kirk Franklin's song (Still In Control). Its like going from II III IV V or something like that. Thanks ya'll.

Are they all major chords, like that (the way you have it written)?
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: Fenix on April 08, 2008, 09:24:20 AM
Are they all major chords, like that (the way you have it written)?

I don't think so. I think its liek you would play the chords diatonically, i.e the II minor, III minor and so on. I'm just looking for different ways to end a song apart from the IV- V-I.
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 08, 2008, 09:59:32 AM
I don't think so. I think its liek you would play the chords diatonically, i.e the II minor, III minor and so on. I'm just looking for different ways to end a song apart from the IV- V-I.

gotcha.
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: musallio on April 08, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
The other common way to end is to do a Vdom-vi-viidim or vii-I..

I also like the vi-bvi-V-vii-I or V  ..In this case, the bvi / #v is a sub for the ii & the vii is a (can I call it a) passing note that helps you to resolve to a I.

Depending on how fast you play your bass notes, you have plenty of options to play around with, one of them being : vi-bvi-V-vii-bVdim or bv-V-(I)

wo-ryt, let me pause there 4 now & try the other stuff before I post it.
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: B3Wannabe on April 08, 2008, 11:43:24 AM
I use....


bIII Maj9-ii min9-V 13 b9-I Maj7

or

#VI Maj9-bIII 13-#V 7-V13-I 6/9

You can use the last one to change the key to the key of the #V, which is a half-step up, or even move the #V up a half-step to VI7, and change the key a whole-step.
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: T-Block on April 08, 2008, 12:31:44 PM
I've been experimenting with ending songs on 4.  So, here are a few things u could try:

2 / 4 chord  (D / C-F-A)
3 / 5 chord  (E / D-G-B)
4 / 1 chord  (F / E-G-C)

or

2 / 4 chord  (D / C-F-A)
1 / 5 chord  (C / D-G-B)
4 / 1 chord  (F / E-G-C)

or

2 / 4 chord  (D / C-F-A)
1 / 5 chord  (C / D-G-B)
b7 / 4 chord  (Bb / F-A-C)

or

B / A-D-F (7)
E / G#-C-D-G (3)
A / F#-G#-B-C#-E (6)
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: 4hisglory on April 08, 2008, 12:42:07 PM
Nice T-block
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 08, 2008, 01:27:49 PM
T-Block, I love the ending on the 6th, I do that myself, sometimes (when I remember :-[ :D)

I'm really trying to get a good grasp of ending on the 4, too.

B3, is that 3 (in the key of C) an Eb Maj 9 or an E Maj 9?
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: musallio on April 08, 2008, 01:34:41 PM
I see some savoury stuff (from B3) & some majestic stuff from T..

I need to start applying now!
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: Rjthakid on April 08, 2008, 02:38:14 PM
I use....


bIII Maj9-ii9-V 13 b9-I Maj7

or

#VI Maj9-bIII 13-#V 7-V13-I 6/9

You can use the last one to change the key to the key of the #V, which is a half-step up, or even move the #V up a half-step to VI7, and change the key a whole-step.
I've been experimenting with ending songs on 4.  So, here are a few things u could try:

2 / 4 chord  (D / C-F-A)
3 / 5 chord  (E / D-G-B)
4 / 1 chord  (F / E-G-C)

or

2 / 4 chord  (D / C-F-A)
1 / 5 chord  (C / D-G-B)
4 / 1 chord  (F / E-G-C)

or

2 / 4 chord  (D / C-F-A)
1 / 5 chord  (C / D-G-B)
b7 / 4 chord  (Bb / F-A-C)

or

B / A-D-F (7)
E / G#-C-D-G (3)
A / F#-G#-B-C#-E (6)


Time for me to use this handy "Print" feature.   ;D

Nice stuff guys.  Ending on the one all the time is so boring.

Here's one I like to do, with an accompanying melody line:

Note: I got this from a DVD...don't recall which one.

2nd Note: I'm an organist, so I'll TRY to write these in Keyboard technique.

Key: Ab

Bb-F-Ab/Db-F-Ab-C       2
Eb-Bb/Db-G-Bb             5

ok, here it is:

E-Ab-B-E/Ab, Bb, B, Eb   b6

Gb-Bb-Db/Gb-Bb-Db       b7
 
G-Bb-Db-E/Bb               7

Eb, Db

Ab-Eb-Ab/Eb-Ab-C         1
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: chevonee on April 08, 2008, 02:49:14 PM
WoW, this IS some very good stuff. Thanks everyone!!
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: Fenix on April 08, 2008, 03:46:50 PM
WoW, this IS some very good stuff. Thanks everyone!!

OK this thread has officially been copy-written. You will have to pay me royalties per THOUGHT of using any of the chords listed here. :)

Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: B3Wannabe on April 08, 2008, 05:58:39 PM
T-Block, I love the ending on the 6th, I do that myself, sometimes (when I remember :-[ :D)

I'm really trying to get a good grasp of ending on the 4, too.

B3, is that 3 (in the key of C) an Eb Maj 9 or an E Maj 9?

The "ii9" chord was supposed to be "ii min9". I was sleepy.

It's actually a IV chord taken from the key of B. You can see it clearer in the second progression.
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: musallio on April 09, 2008, 09:46:36 AM
T-Block, I love the ending on the 6th, I do that myself, sometimes (when I remember :-[ :D)

I'm really trying to get a good grasp of ending on the 4, too.

B3, is that 3 (in the key of C) an Eb Maj 9 or an E Maj 9?

I don't normally end in a 6 unless when I play songs in minor keys..

But what I do normally play is this:

5/4-6-1-3
6/#4-6-1-3
2/#4-6-1-3
b2/---(pass)
1/3-6-7-2

or

5/4-6-1-3
5/4-(5)-6-7-2
7 or b2/--(pass)
1/3-6-7-2,3-6-7-3  or 1/3-5-7-2, 2-6-7-3

or

5/5-1-3-5
b5/6-1-b3-4
7/---(pass)
1/3-7-1-2-3



OK this thread has officially been copy-written. You will have to pay me royalties per THOUGHT of using any of the chords listed here. :)



How much are the royalties..? Payment details? (Man U'r very nasty!! other people give this stuff 4 free U know!) ;D




Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 09, 2008, 10:24:38 AM
This is a MUST have jazzy ending provided by 513 (aka DaNatiMaestro)

http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,50899.0.html (http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,50899.0.html)
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: musallio on April 09, 2008, 11:22:26 AM
This is a MUST have jazzy ending provided by 513 (aka DaNatiMaestro)

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SIZZLING HOTT!!!
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 09, 2008, 11:23:50 AM
SIZZLING HOTT!!!


INDEED!!
Title: Re: Good ending progressions
Post by: Ladyn on April 09, 2008, 11:45:33 PM

INDEED!!

Cosign!!!