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Title: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: SoundofJoy on May 29, 2008, 09:51:37 AM
I'm on vacation and wanted to share in a key no one like to play in.

Something for you to work on in your spare time.

Ab / Gb B E
Bb / Ab Db Gb
C / Bb Eb Ab
Db / B Eb E Ab
Ab Eb Gb / B Eb Gb B
Db Ab Db / B D G B
Gb Db E / A Db E A
Eb Bb Db / Gb Db F Ab
Ab Eb Gb / A C Eb Gb
Db Ab Db /F Bb Eb Ab
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: 4hisglory on May 29, 2008, 10:12:46 AM
E to Db?
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: Fenix on May 29, 2008, 10:31:38 AM
The key of E????? YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: rayjohnson83 on May 29, 2008, 12:48:14 PM
The key of E????? YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   >:( >:( >:(
:D :D :D :D ;D :D
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: chevonee on May 29, 2008, 01:34:03 PM
The key of E????? YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   >:( >:( >:(
AMEN!!! But those progressions do sound gr8 though. Thanks Sam...God bless you
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: DaNatiMaestro on May 29, 2008, 01:47:01 PM
Thanks for the progression Sam.

I actually like the key of E alot.. you can thank Israel and New Breed for that.. (Friend of God, Lord You Are Good, etc).. LOL
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: T-Block on May 29, 2008, 02:45:37 PM
The progressions are nice SOJ, I'm just disappointed that I don't see any sharps, since u are in the key of E, LOL.  Sorry, that's just the music theory geek in me.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: 4hisglory on May 29, 2008, 03:01:29 PM
The progressions are nice SOJ, I'm just disappointed that I don't see any sharps, since u are in the key of E, LOL.  Sorry, that's just the music theory geek in me.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhh..... now I see it.  Yeah, the sharp thing through me completely off.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: T-Block on May 29, 2008, 03:04:43 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhh..... now I see it.  Yeah, the sharp thing through me completely off.

EXACTLY!!!  It just irks me when someone says they're in a certain key, then I don't see what I'm expecting to see for that key.  >:(
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: SoundofJoy on May 29, 2008, 03:35:42 PM
 ;D


G# / F# B E
A# /G# C# F#
C / A# D# G#
C# / B D# E G#
G# D# F# / B D# F# B
C# G# C# / B D G B
F# C# E / A C# E A
Eb Bb Db / Gb Db F Ab
Ab Eb Gb / A C Eb Gb
Db Ab Db /F Bb Eb Ab
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: Fenix on May 29, 2008, 03:47:15 PM
May you all be forgiven for using the key of E by choice.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: T-Block on May 29, 2008, 03:47:40 PM
;D


G# / F# B E
A# /G# C# F#
C / A# D# G#
C# / B D# E G#
G# D# F# / B D# F# B
C# G# C# / B D G B
F# C# E / A C# E A
Eb Bb Db / Gb Db F Ab
Ab Eb Gb / A C Eb Gb
Db Ab Db /F Bb Eb Ab

 :'(  AHHHHHH, it's so beatiful.  I am happy now, LOL!!!  :D  ;D  :D
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: T-Block on May 29, 2008, 03:49:56 PM
May you all be forgiven for using the key of E by choice.  >:( >:( >:(

SMH, one day u gonna grow up man in musician years that is and eat these words.  :(
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: Fenix on May 29, 2008, 03:57:01 PM
SMH, one day u gonna grow up man in musician years that is and eat these words.  :(

::) ::)
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: musallio on May 30, 2008, 06:14:53 AM
::) ::)

To some, Fenix my friend, the key of E is as the heavenly key of Bbm to you :D
&  The key of E has a great feel to it..I don't know wassup with all the fuss about it ::)
So you better take back your words now lest T-Block has the last laugh after the unknown musical years spoken of have elapsed:D

Funny enough Mr Tolbert, I've just been doing a bass groove in Dbm

(Slap bass or Sine Bass are my preferences for this)

All LH/ RH

#1

^Gb-^G-Ab,Gb,Db,Db/---(your own creativity!)  ^=roll/ bounce fingers on notesfor split sec.
Db,Cb,Db,Db/---
Db,Eb,Fb/--  or Db,Fb,Db,Db  (as variation)
Eb,Fb,Gb/---

(repeat)


#2
in C#

^A-B,G#/--
^A-B,C#/---

(repeat as you wish then play..)

A,G#,F#,E,C#/--

(repeat from top)

& that was by choice Fenbox ;D :D



Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: T-Block on May 30, 2008, 12:03:22 PM
To some, Fenix my friend, the key of E is as the heavenly key of Bbm to you :D
&  The key of E has a great feel to it..I don't know wassup with all the fuss about it ::)
So you better take back your words now lest T-Block has the last laugh after the unknown musical years spoken of have elapsed:D

EXACTLY!!! including the white print, LOL.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: Fenix on May 30, 2008, 01:32:08 PM
To some, Fenix my friend, the key of E is as the heavenly key of Bbm to you :D
&  The key of E has a great feel to it..I don't know wassup with all the fuss about it ::)



EXACTLY!!! including the white print, LOL.

OK, no worries. I play in E cuz i am sometimes forced to so its all good.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: Gibby on May 31, 2008, 06:43:56 AM
*with my guitar in standard tuning in hand*

WHO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE KEY OF E???!!!!
YOU GOT PROBLEMS WITH "A" TOO??!!!!

 :D :D :D

T-block is right, the key of E has a certain richness to it.  I know it's not a favorite key by many piano players tho  :D

but really, if you have pretty decent guitar players (lead and bass), a shout in the key of E would be pretty fun.

it happened at my church a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: berbie on June 12, 2008, 05:04:11 AM
I thought about it real hard and came to the conclusion that it is a total bummer to play anything in a key that has more than two sharps in it.  Flats are o k. I don't acknowledge the fact of a C# even being on the keyboard.  B_E_A_D_G_C  I live by.(the flat key signatures)  When playing by ear, those other notes aren't sharps,  they are flats.  Maybe that's why I can't play the keyboard.

berbie. 
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: Fenix on June 12, 2008, 07:38:11 AM
I thought about it real hard and came to the conclusion that it is a total bummer to play anything in a key that has more than two sharps in it.  Flats are o k. I don't acknowledge the fact of a C# even being on the keyboard.  B_E_A_D_G_C  I live by.(the flat key signatures)  When playing by ear, those other notes aren't sharps,  they are flats.  Maybe that's why I can't play the keyboard.

berbie. 

 ?/?
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: musallio on June 12, 2008, 04:38:23 PM
?/?

I also thought I was following, but I lost it in the middle.
 :-\
Could you please explain again what you are saying Berbie..
For instance, that going up the circle of 4ths from B to C, what does it mean?

Are you saying that you don't like to notate in Enharmonics that have more than 2 sharps (A,E,B,F#,C#,G#,D# & A#) but prefer using (Bbb, Fb, Cb,Gb,Db,Ab,Eb &Bb).

Or are you saying you can only play in the keys of C,F,Bb,G,D? ?/?
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: Fenix on June 12, 2008, 04:40:47 PM
I also thought I was following, but I lost it in the middle.
 :-\
Could you please explain again what you are saying Berbie..
For instance, that going up the circle of 4ths from B to C, what does it mean?

Are you saying that you don't like to notate in Enharmonics that have more than 2 sharps (A,E,B,F#,C#,G#,D# & A#) but prefer using (Bbb, Fb, Cb,Gb,Db,Ab,Eb &Bb).


Or are you saying you can only play in the keys of C,F,Bb,G,D? ?/?

I suspect you are right.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: T-Block on June 12, 2008, 04:45:12 PM
I thought about it real hard and came to the conclusion that it is a total bummer to play anything in a key that has more than two sharps in it.  Flats are o k. I don't acknowledge the fact of a C# even being on the keyboard.  B_E_A_D_G_C  I live by.(the flat key signatures)  When playing by ear, those other notes aren't sharps,  they are flats.  Maybe that's why I can't play the keyboard.

berbie. 

I know it's confusing dealing with all the sharps, but with a little practice it becomes just as easy as playing with the flats.  When playing by ear, the notes are whatever u want them to be.  Just be sure that u know all your notes and this won't be much of a problem.  Trying reading a piece of music in a flat key that has sharps and double sharp accidentals throughout the piece.  You will think twice about dealing with all flats.

I keep trying to tell people notes are different on sheet music than when playing by ear.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: Fenix on June 12, 2008, 04:47:17 PM
I know it's confusing dealing with all the sharps, but with a little practice it becomes just as easy as playing with the flats.  When playing by ear, the notes are whatever u want them to be.  Just be sure that u know all your notes and this won't be much of a problem.  Trying reading a piece of music in a flat key that has sharps and double sharp accidentals throughout the piece.  You will think twice about dealing with all flats.

I keep trying to tell people notes are different on sheet music than when playing by ear.

So what WAS her issue?
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: T-Block on June 12, 2008, 04:49:31 PM
So what WAS her issue?

Reading music in sharps, just like mus said.  It's easier to read flats than sharps for some reason.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: musallio on June 12, 2008, 04:56:22 PM
Reading music in sharps, just like mus said.  It's easier to read flats than sharps for some reason.

Reading music in the key of C is already such a challenge for me (for now), so I didn't even bother to buy the music book to Israel & New Breed's song book which has songs ranging notated in Gb & others in E!
But I might be very tempted to purchase it for the sake of completing my musicianship..ito reading.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: berbie on June 12, 2008, 11:36:45 PM
When playing written music, the key signatures for F is Bb, for Bb, it is  Bb-Eb, for Eb it is Bb-Eb-Ab, for Ab it is Bb-Eb-Ab-Db, and so on in the order of BEADGC.  If you have that order in your head, and you know that any change due to key signature is going to be flat, it makes the reading much easier.  Sharps are not even in the room.  If I am playing in Ab, without even thinking at all, I know that BEAandD are changed and all changes are flat.  I like to play in the key of G, so I don't mind dealng with the one sharp.  I will in a push, read in the key of D, which has two sharps.  C is almost a no-brainer. They say that there's a key of C#.  I am a Db person.  I don't have much trouble playing in other keys by ear, but A, E and B I really don't care that much for. Is that messed up or what? 
Berbie is a nick name from many years ago.  I am a man.  I started to learn to play the keyboard after retiring about ten years ago, and am self taught.  I say it strongly and often; one should get a teacher, even at 60.  I am sure I would be doing better if I had done so.

T-Block, I learned a lot from your posts, and of course, from others as well.

(even though one might not think so from my post)
berbie
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: Fenix on June 13, 2008, 07:50:09 AM
^^^

Well that cleared up a lot. I also agree with your point of getting a teacher. I have no doubt that i would have progressed in my playing so much faster if i had stuck with my teacher. I just got bored cuz i was such a long way from playing what i wanted to play.

I am looking for a new teacher though.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: musallio on June 13, 2008, 09:07:53 AM
^^^

Well that cleared up a lot. I also agree with your point of getting a teacher. I have no doubt that i would have progressed in my playing so much faster if i had stuck with my teacher. I just got bored cuz i was such a long way from playing what i wanted to play.

I am looking for a new teacher though.

That's right there.

I fought boredom really fiercely & I never let it build shelter in me.

So what WAS her  issue?


Berbie is a nick name from many years ago.  I am a man.  I started to learn to play the keyboard after retiring about ten years ago, and am self taught.  I say it strongly and often; one should get a teacher, even at 60.  I am sure I would be doing better if I had done so.

T-Block, I learned a lot from your posts, and of course, from others as well.

(even though one might not think so from my post)
berbie

Hehehe..Fenix...do what's right my friend ;)  [Don't worry, I am equally shocked that you are male Berbie :o
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: T-Block on June 13, 2008, 11:06:40 AM
So, tell me berbie, of all the sheet music you have played, what are all the key signatures u have come across?  I've come across every key signature that there is.
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: berbie on June 13, 2008, 02:01:22 PM
Hey, T, I come across a number of songs in the other keys. I do one of two things:, I ignore them, or if necessary, I find out how they go, and then play them by ear.  I have learned many, many chords.  I play scales to some extent, certainly enough to be familiar with them.  I have done a little Hannon, but stopped about two years ago. I have gone to the GMWA on several occasions and gained information there.  I have bought several conventional piano books, and many tapes and CDs.  Some I studied hard, others I handled in a cursury manner.  I learned a lot at Learn Gospel Music.  After all that, I am still just a little above a beginner.  I do play for two small churches and for a male group.  I only started to play the keyboard as a hobby, never dreaming that I would be playing for a church. I can't sing a lick, but I will get up and lead a song with the male chorus in a hot minute.   
I'm having a blast. When I get on the keyboard, I am going to be flatting notes.  I ain't sharping nonna them suckers.  I actually tried using the transpose button, but I couldn't because the notes didn't sound like I expected them to, and it always got me lost. In a more serious vein, though, since I did go as far as I did, I find myself wistfully thinking how nice it would be to play at a semi pro level, and knowing that at 70, I am not going there.  Learning how to play the keyboard is easy.  Learning how to play it good is hard.  The things I do are often done in an effort to make learning easier and faster.

berbie
Title: Re: Sam's Progressions in E to Db
Post by: musallio on June 17, 2008, 03:49:56 PM
Hey, T, I come across a number of songs in the other keys. I do one of two things:, I ignore them, or if necessary, I find out how they go, and then play them by ear.  I have learned many, many chords.  I play scales to some extent, certainly enough to be familiar with them.  I have done a little Hannon, but stopped about two years ago. I have gone to the GMWA on several occasions and gained information there.  I have bought several conventional piano books, and many tapes and CDs.  Some I studied hard, others I handled in a cursury manner.  I learned a lot at Learn Gospel Music.  After all that, I am still just a little above a beginner.  I do play for two small churches and for a male group.  I only started to play the keyboard as a hobby, never dreaming that I would be playing for a church. I can't sing a lick, but I will get up and lead a song with the male chorus in a hot minute.   
I'm having a blast. When I get on the keyboard, I am going to be flatting notes.  I ain't sharping nonna them suckers.  I actually tried using the transpose button, but I couldn't because the notes didn't sound like I expected them to, and it always got me lost. In a more serious vein, though, since I did go as far as I did, I find myself wistfully thinking how nice it would be to play at a semi pro level, and knowing that at 70, I am not going there.  Learning how to play the keyboard is easy.  Learning how to play it good is hard.  The things I do are often done in an effort to make learning easier and faster.

berbie

Wow!