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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Drummers => Topic started by: QCdrummer on July 08, 2008, 03:53:17 PM
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I thought about this today and I thought it would be interesting to see what other answers may come up. Personally I like when I group is under one common name. Gives the group a more unison type of feel. That says to me that everybody contributed thier time,effort, and talent equally to make the group what it became. But the common names are rare.........
In all things you have to have some kind of leader. Somebody who is the head. Every sports team needs a captain. Every job needs a boss, every church needs a pastor. But at the same time the church is not called Pastor John Davis and New Bethel Baptist, rather "New Bethel Baptist". Or The LA Lakers are not called Kobe Bryant and the Lakers, but the "Lakers". (Even though you could make an argument for that Lakers theory)
The point is, why not operate under one name? That doesn't make the leader less of a leader does it?
I mean if the leader puts the music, the lyrics, the musicians, the group together, then maybe his name should be in the forfront.
What do you think?
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I think some threads don't belong in the drum room.
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Yeah not to much of a drum topic but neither is half the stuff that comes through here. I like getting opinions from a "drummer's perspective". Where else you can you go and get opinions from drummers across the country?
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I think its because it is their group and they can name it what they want.
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Most of the time the name out front is the primary writer and/or producer and organizer of the group. And they also tend to be the true moneymaker as well. As long as those involved can deal with that, then it is what it is. Of course this can tie in to the "talkover" thread in the lounge.
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I think some threads don't belong in the drum room.
I agree, but I never see you, or any drummers posting in the lounge.
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Please help me understand why you specifically need a drummer's perspective on this matter. I hate when good threads get bumped down by this kind of crap.
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See it all started 6000 years ago on a planet called Cybertron. Megatron crashed on earth and said to all the singers that they had to always put their name before the group or they shall be destroyed!!!!! Optimus Prime wasnt on the earth yet to save the singers of earth, so its been something that singers just do not really knowing why!!!!!
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LOL!!!
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It's simply because the singer(or whatever) is the main act that you can expect to see. If you have a group name, people expect to see THAT GROUP. If you have a featured name, like Alicia Keys, you can expect to see different cats getting hired to perform with her wherever she goes. She's out in front, not her band.
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Because the singer feels like it! ?/? :-\
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I thought about this today and I thought it would be interesting to see what other answers may come up. Personally I like when I group is under one common name. Gives the group a more unison type of feel. That says to me that everybody contributed thier time,effort, and talent equally to make the group what it became. But the common names are rare.........
In all things you have to have some kind of leader. Somebody who is the head. Every sports team needs a captain. Every job needs a boss, every church needs a pastor. But at the same time the church is not called Pastor John Davis and New Bethel Baptist, rather "New Bethel Baptist". Or The LA Lakers are not called Kobe Bryant and the Lakers, but the "Lakers". (Even though you could make an argument for that Lakers theory)
The point is, why not operate under one name? That doesn't make the leader less of a leader does it?
I mean if the leader puts the music, the lyrics, the musicians, the group together, then maybe his name should be in the forfront.
What do you think?
If you use a search engine to look up some churches the website URL or the page name may have the Pastors Name Ministries instead of the churches name. For example if Bruce Wayne was the Senior Pastor of the First Bat Cave Church of Light Ministries, the website address or page title could be title Bruce Wayne Ministries.
This movement runs deep though, look at:
Diana Ross and the Supremes
Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes
Snap, Crackle and Pop
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I agree, but I never see you, or any drummers posting in the lounge.
Yeah, I take issue with this. I'm probably the most active of the drummers who posts in the lounge & although it may be hardly ever... its not never.
We have posted/do post in the lounge.
lol at BBD! ;D :D
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Please help me understand why you specifically need a drummer's perspective on this matter. I hate when good threads get bumped down by this kind of crap.
Because these gospel groups need gospel drummers--------->And if you are on LGM in the drum room......then most likely you are a --------------> gospel drummer who plays or has played for these gospel groups in the topic. See the connection? So if you would rather read about how to do single stroke rolls all day and see shed clips, there is a search engine on here, and there is also one on youtube. Oh also, if somebody post a topic that doesn't interest me, I usually just don't click on the topic...........
See it all started 6000 years ago on a planet called Cybertron. Megatron crashed on earth and said to all the singers that they had to always put their name before the group or they shall be destroyed!!!!! Optimus Prime wasnt on the earth yet to save the singers of earth, so its been something that singers just do not really knowing why!!!!!
lol, you a fool man.
It's simply because the singer(or whatever) is the main act that you can expect to see. If you have a group name, people expect to see THAT GROUP. If you have a featured name, like Alicia Keys, you can expect to see different cats getting hired to perform with her wherever she goes. She's out in front, not her band.
But the difference here is that Alicia Keys is a solo act. Whose had tons of different background singers and different musicians. What I'm mentioning is the groups who have been together with the same people for a long period of time.
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Why do all playstations have sony in front of them. I mean I am a gospel drummer who owns a playstation so I thought it would be interesting to hear from other gospel drummers who own a playstation. (Insert 3 grins here)
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Why do all playstations have sony in front of them. I mean I am a gospel drummer who owns a playstation so I thought it would be interesting to hear from other gospel drummers who own a playstation. (Insert 3 grins here)
LOL..... :D :D :D ;D
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Another thing is, if the group was named as a group and no other individual name, everytime the leader got out front, everyone would constantly ask, "Who is that dude/chick?"
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Why do all playstations have sony in front of them. I mean I am a gospel drummer who owns a playstation so I thought it would be interesting to hear from other gospel drummers who own a playstation. (Insert 3 grins here)
I don't like you....
You just made me choke on a Starburst jellybean!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Why do all playstations have sony in front of them. I mean I am a gospel drummer who owns a playstation so I thought it would be interesting to hear from other gospel drummers who own a playstation. (Insert 3 grins here)
Lmbo! this deserves some kind of award or something that was funny! lol
Another thing is, if the group was named as a group and no other individual name, everytime the leader got out front, everyone would constantly ask, "Who is that dude/chick?"
this is true!
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Why do all playstations have sony in front of them. I mean I am a gospel drummer who owns a playstation so I thought it would be interesting to hear from other gospel drummers who own a playstation. (Insert 3 grins here)
Playstation 3? Then maybe you might capture my interest. But because that particular topic does not interest me I would not waste the time to use my mouse to click on the topic that says "why do all playstations have sony in front of them"........... BUT if I had nothing better to do that day, then I probably would click on the topic, then I would leave messages about how stupid the topic was then go back to watch more sheds. Plus I would realize that the more a topic is read and the more comments that are left.........................THE LONGER IT STAYS AT THE TOP for more people to read.
Another thing is, if the group was named as a group and no other individual name, everytime the leader got out front, everyone would constantly ask, "Who is that dude/chick?"
They could get the name after the service. Or they could just call them the soloist.
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I hate when good threads get bumped down by this kind of crap.
And this statement from D-0-D just said it all. So Lets translate: "I hate that my clip is getting pushed down because people keep starting new topics that have nothing to do with drums". As of about 9:30 This topic is directly above his topic entitled "New Audio Clip". Which means if this topic stays near the top, his will get bumped down and the clip will not get heard. I didn't know staying near the top was that important to you doc. I honestly did enjoy your clip so I will leave a comment in your thread so that "good thread" will not get bumped down by this kind of crap.
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Well I hit the thread for two reasons. The first reason was so that everyone can see how stupid this thread is and how you shouldve been busy reading the vinnie thread instead of getting high and then asking a nationwide web of drummers "why does your cd have a first name? What do they mean by Vashawn Mitchell and friends? I mean, arnt we all friends?" Lol!!!
The other reason for hitting the thread was to limit the noise in this online daycare. They just got pantherboy to stop crying and we didn't want you to start. Lol lol lol!!!
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:o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ?/? :D 8)
(Thats all i got to say!)
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I thought about this today and I thought it would be interesting to see what other answers may come up. Personally I like when I group is under one common name. Gives the group a more unison type of feel. That says to me that everybody contributed thier time,effort, and talent equally to make the group what it became. But the common names are rare.........
In all things you have to have some kind of leader. Somebody who is the head. Every sports team needs a captain. Every job needs a boss, every church needs a pastor. But at the same time the church is not called Pastor John Davis and New Bethel Baptist, rather "New Bethel Baptist". Or The LA Lakers are not called Kobe Bryant and the Lakers, but the "Lakers". (Even though you could make an argument for that Lakers theory)
The point is, why not operate under one name? That doesn't make the leader less of a leader does it?
I mean if the leader puts the music, the lyrics, the musicians, the group together, then maybe his name should be in the forefront.
What do you think?
1) It's normally the front name who is putting in alot of the time, money and songwriting/arranging. MOST OF THE TIME, they are also the visionary of the whole thing anyway.
2) There are quite a few who put there names after the group. You just gotta look for them.
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wow.
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Hey, if you really dont like it and it bothers you so much, just come up with your own:
QCdrummer and friends.
QCdrummer and the brigade.
QCdrummer and the singers.
QCdrummer and the family.
QCdrummer trio.
QCdrummer and the NorthWest SouthEast Mass Choir.
Just a few thoughts that might get you going.
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Hey, if you really dont like it and it bothers you so much, just come up with your own:
QCdrummer and friends.
QCdrummer and the brigade.
QCdrummer and the singers.
QCdrummer and the family.
QCdrummer trio.
QCdrummer and the NorthWest SouthEast Mass Choir.
Just a few thoughts that might get you going.
LOl! you a clown E.R.
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1) It's normally the front name who is putting in alot of the time, money and songwriting/arranging. MOST OF THE TIME, they are also the visionary of the whole thing anyway.
2) There are quite a few who put there names after the group. You just gotta look for them.
Makes sense. So I guess the thoughts here were that there is no issue with have the name out in front.
Well I hit the thread for two reasons. The first reason was so that everyone can see how stupid this thread is and how you shouldve been busy reading the vinnie thread instead of getting high and then asking a nationwide web of drummers "why does your cd have a first name? What do they mean by Vashawn Mitchell and friends? I mean, arnt we all friends?" Lol!!!
The other reason for hitting the thread was to limit the noise in this online daycare. They just got pantherboy to stop crying and we didn't want you to start. Lol lol lol!!!
If you had read my beginning paragraph in its entirety, I was not on one side or the other; simply asking a question, not complaing about anything. If you took the time to read you would know this, but I know we all aren't gifted enough to read..........
Well I hit the thread for two reasons. The first reason was so that everyone can see how stupid this thread is
Now you tell me if this first reason makes any sense. You comment on a topic so everybody can see how stupid it is? You are the main reason the topic has stay at the top as long as it has. Once again if nobody leaves comments, the threads get pushed out to page 2. So now that the answers have been given out, theres no need to let this stay at the top; besides this is getting in the way of your audio clip. And where would LGM be without a thread like that.
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I think that the little hissy fit arguments in this thread need to go to the PMs.
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I think that the little hissy fit arguments in this thread need to go to the PMs.
You're right Fre, if anybody wants to throw hissy fits when they don't like something (like my 3 year niece does) then they need to go to pms.................arguing over what topics are the more important than the other.........................the thought of it just sounds stupid.
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This is flippin rediculous.
What is the point of this WHOLE THREAD?
This thread is working on its third page, and the Vinnie thread that is actually talking about something is being bumped further and further down the page by a bunch of nonsense Not to mention the never ending saga/soap opera of Spank and Tye Tribbett.
Is this a forum of learning, or gossip? Does it really matter why singers put their names in the front of groups? No. Because if you understand the pretenses of why YOU as a part of the bigger picture is there then it doesnt matter. As long as you do your part it doesn't matter what the band is called. What does a name have to do with how you play/perform on a gig? Just shut up and do your part. If you want to get top billing in a group, start your own.
Now I fully understand why DIV can only hang out for so long before he bounces.
Come get me when people really want to learn.
Where is the door.
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This is flippin rediculous.
What is the point of this WHOLE THREAD?
This thread is working on its third page, and the Vinnie thread that is actually talking about something is being bumped further and further down the page by a bunch of nonsense Not to mention the never ending saga/soap opera of Spank and Tye Tribbett.
Is this a forum of learning, or gossip? Does it really matter why singers put their names in the front of groups? No. Because if you understand the pretenses of why YOU as a part of the bigger picture is there then it doesnt matter. As long as you do your part it doesn't matter what the band is called. What does a name have to do with how you play/perform on a gig? Just shut up and do your part. If you want to get top billing in a group, start your own.
Now I fully understand why DIV can only hang out for so long before he bounces.
Come get me when people really want to learn.
Where is the door.
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Lol your post would had been funnier if the picture was smaller! :)
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Gospel Beef
Sheen vs. QCdrummer
:D :D :D
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Cybertron and Megatron!!!!!! Thats the real answer!!!!!!
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Great responses everybody! IN CONCLUSION...........It does not matter if your name is in the front or not! I said this about 5 messages ago. It was over and done with until somebody yet had to leave another comment on wether they thought the name should go in the front.
END OF DISCUSSION! IF PEOPLE WILL STOP COMMENTING WE COULD GET THIS TOPIC TO THE ARCHIVES. ITS OVER!!
Thank you and goodnight!
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YEA!!! WHAT QC SAID!!!! ;D
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Lol your post would had been funnier if the picture was smaller! :)
The sad thing about it is that I wasn't telling a joke or trying to be funny.
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The sad thing about it is that I wasn't telling a joke or trying to be funny.
ok sorry big bro!!!! :-\ ;D
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QCDrummer....you had to be pretty bored when you posted this thread....no offense......let's keep this thread on top....haha.... :D :D
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yup bored out of my mind................................... ................4his, please lock this topic so it can go away.
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it seems like you embarrased Qcdrummer! Lol...
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Cybertron!!!
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it seems like you embarrased Qcdrummer! Lol...
Dude nobody is embarrassed. We've argued, laughed at BBD's cybertron comparisons, and discussed the actual topic....and just when it goes away it goes right back to the top..................This is just Elementary school all over again.
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Dude nobody is embarrassed. We've argued, laughed at BBD's cybertron comparisons, and discussed the actual topic....and just when it goes away it goes right back to the top..................This is just Elementary school all over again.
Lol... ok dude!
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Lol your post would had been funnier if the picture was smaller! :)
I'mma end up in the dog house for this, BUT...
Why do so many Christians always have to be on the lame tip. A forum is a forum. In a forum, conversation is should be encouraged. In conversation, topics spinoff and sometimes never come back to the original point. Learning is inadventant on most forums. If people really want to learn, they'll take lessons, read a book or go practice, not sit on a pc. Face it, this is entertainment. I am being entertained by the banter. The common phrase I see on all the Christian forums I'm on goes something like this: As long as you 'insert something lame', then you're doing 'insert what you're supposed to be doing'! We're Christians but we're real people. This thread poster had a legitimate question. Do we all really think STANing some drummer day in and day out is really going to help us learn? Half of us are at work while we're on the blog!
I'm just saying...
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Whoa, somebody's on my side on LGM?? Thanks. Everything you said was right on point. Now lets stand back. The Stoning process is about to begin.
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I'mma end up in the dog house for this, BUT...
Why do so many Christians always have to be on the lame tip. A forum is a forum. In a forum, conversation is should be encouraged. In conversation, topics spinoff and sometimes never come back to the original point. Learning is inadventant on most forums. If people really want to learn, they'll take lessons, read a book or go practice, not sit on a pc. Face it, this is entertainment. I am being entertained by the banter. The common phrase I see on all the Christian forums I'm on goes something like this: As long as you 'insert something lame', then you're doing 'insert what you're supposed to be doing'! We're Christians but we're real people. This thread poster had a legitimate question. Do we all really think STANing some drummer day in and day out is really going to help us learn? Half of us are at work while we're on the blog!
I'm just saying...
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Yes but there is intelligent topics and unintelligent ones like this one!!! QC drummer sometimes has a lot of good to say but this was just not one of those times so hes going to get razzed!!!!
I'm just saying too... LOL!!!
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Some cats got alot of growing up to do...... ::)
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Some cats got alot of growing up to do...... ::)
LOL!