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Main => Gospel Music Lounge => Topic started by: Brittsings87 on July 22, 2008, 03:06:59 PM
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I was asked to direct the youth choir at my church, within the ages of 4-12. I've directed the youth choir before but they were all between the ages of 8 and 14, maybe a little older. But with the ages starting out at 4, I don't know what to do as far as grasping their attention. Because the "little" people at my church have BIG personalities and most of the time lose interest if it tends to get boring (I think thats the case for most kids anyways). And another thing, I really can't tolerate whiny, disrepsectful kids AT ALL, I just don't have patience for that nonsense. :-\ And unfortunately thats how some of them are... especially this one little girl, she's about 6 and cries about EVERYTHING, most of the time for no reason at all.
I don't mind doing this, but how do I deal with kids all at one time that asks a thousand questions, then the constant bathroom breaks, interruptions (because alot of them are clowns), then the days when they just don't wanna act right, ect????!!!! ?/?
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Whew, you have my sympathy, LOL!!!
It sounds like you need a lot of helpers depending on the size of the group. If you have a good helper you may be able to split the group up and work with the smaller ones on their level and the older ones on their level, and come together once they've learned the songs. If it's just you, have the older kids come 30 mins earlier so you can make progress with them before the rugrats get there, lol.
Those are just my suggestions, I know they may not work for your situation.
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I had the same issue when approched with the position and wanted the ages split but my MOM shot it down. When the very first rehearsal started, I found out it wasn't bad at all. The little ones weren't as hard to keep attentive because they were around the big kids, so if the big kids were into the rehearsals and excited, the little ones were too. As far as the bathroom breaks, the lady who worked with me, we both saw that as a big problem. What we did was have them go before we started and a set time for when they were to return (with one of the older kids in charge). Of course there were a few kids that still had to go during rehearsals, but it cut down on the mass of kids having to go throughout.
By your post, I'm assuming you're doing this by yourself... if so, then request you have help from the MoM or talk with the parents and see if they can set up some type of schedule so thhere's someone there to help you.
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Whew, you have my sympathy, LOL!!!
It sounds like you need a lot of helpers depending on the size of the group. If you have a good helper you may be able to split the group up and work with the smaller ones on their level and the older ones on their level, and come together once they've learned the songs. If it's just you, have the older kids come 30 mins earlier so you can make progress with them before the rugrats get there, lol.
Those are just my suggestions, I know they may not work for your situation.
LOL thanks for the sympathy!
I had the same issue when approched with the position and wanted the ages split but my MOM shot it down. When the very first rehearsal started, I found out it wasn't bad at all. The little ones weren't as hard to keep attentive because they were around the big kids, so if the big kids were into the rehearsals and excited, the little ones were too. As far as the bathroom breaks, the lady who worked with me, we both saw that as a big problem. What we did was have them go before we started and a set time for when they were to return (with one of the older kids in charge). Of course there were a few kids that still had to go during rehearsals, but it cut down on the mass of kids having to go throughout.
By your post, I'm assuming you're doing this by yourself... if so, then request you have help from the MoM or talk with the parents and see if they can set up some type of schedule so thhere's someone there to help you.
Well, actually we don't have a "MoM" at our church, it's just me :-\. But my Co-Pastor said she'll be there to assist, and thats a good idea to have them go before rehearsal. They use to do that at my church, like have all the kids use the bathroom before service started, so there wouldn't be alot of walking arouns during service, which is a pet peeve of my Pastor.
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LOL thanks for the sympathy!
Well, actually we don't have a "MoM" at our church, it's just me :-\. But my Co-Pastor said she'll be there to assist, and thats a good idea to have them go before rehearsal. They use to do that at my church, like have all the kids use the bathroom before service started, so there wouldn't be alot of walking arouns during service, which is a pet peeve of my Pastor.
That's great that the Co-Pastor has offered her help to you, that should help things run smoothly. Good luck and keep us informed. :)
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That's great that the Co-Pastor has offered her help to you, that should help things run smoothly. Good luck and keep us informed. :)
Yeah, hopefully! lol The first rehearsal was suppose to be last Wed. But I had COMPLETELY lost my voice, and couldn't talk. So tomorrow will be the 1st official rehearsl, so I'll let ya know how it went!
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This is good. Just in case I have to deal with little kids...again...*shivers*
The last time I had to work with little kids was when I was 17 or 18 and I was teaching them a Children's Church lesson. They were 4 - 6 or something like that. I don't actually teach...I lecture. My visual aids aren't much help either. Yeah I was operating outside of my gift. So one day I was doing a lesson and I asked a question. A little girl raised her hand and said, "We're going to Chuck E. Cheese after church today!"
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This is good. Just in case I have to deal with little kids...again...*shivers*
The last time I had to work with little kids was when I was 17 or 18 and I was teaching them a Children's Church lesson. They were 4 - 6 or something like that. I don't actually teach...I lecture. My visual aids aren't much help either. Yeah I was operating outside of my gift. So one day I was doing a lesson and I asked a question. A little girl raised her hand and said, "We're going to Chuck E. Cheese after church today!"
:D :D I know of this one little boy, well 2 of them, their brothers. They will yell out at ANY given moment, and say "IM HUNGRY!!!" They even do this in church service, and be very loud with it! They;ll pretty much blurt out anything. lol Well tonight is the rehearsal, I'm looking forward to it! ;D :-\ :)
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SO I just got back from the rehearsal! Not as bad as I thought it would be... however ALL the kids weren't there, some are out of town and stuff. But anyways, everything went well. My oldest niece who is 12 didn't want to do it anymore because she realized how tall she was over everyone else :-\. Well, the little girl that I metioned earlier that cries alot she didn't cry lol, I gave her a lead part in a song, she has a cute lil voice BTW. Well at first she was kinda bashful about it so I kinda encouraged her to do it. While in the process my lil godsister who is 4 said, "Bitney, I wanna do it", then she goes, "If she don't wanna do it I'll do it" :D. That lil girl is hilarious, she'll have yal rolling. But yeah, everything went well, except for the interruptions by my godsister who kept tapping me lol. She also tried to tell me how to teach the song! lol
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I was asked to direct the youth choir at my church, within the ages of 4-12. I've directed the youth choir before but they were all between the ages of 8 and 14, maybe a little older. But with the ages starting out at 4, I don't know what to do as far as grasping their attention. Because the "little" people at my church have BIG personalities and most of the time lose interest if it tends to get boring (I think thats the case for most kids anyways). And another thing, I really can't tolerate whiny, disrepsectful kids AT ALL, I just don't have patience for that nonsense. :-\ And unfortunately thats how some of them are... especially this one little girl, she's about 6 and cries about EVERYTHING, most of the time for no reason at all.
I don't mind doing this, but how do I deal with kids all at one time that asks a thousand questions, then the constant bathroom breaks, interruptions (because alot of them are clowns), then the days when they just don't wanna act right, ect????!!!! ?/?
Do you have permisson to beat their butts :-\ :-\ haha naw I am just playing
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LOL.... I aint' touching them kids! Its some crazy parents that go to my church... only ones I can lay my hands on is my nieces, but I don't hit chirrens! lol
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LOL.... I aint' touching them kids! Its some crazy parents that go to my church... only ones I can lay my hands on is my nieces, but I don't hit chirrens! lol
well at my church... I have the permisson to do so from all my parents but i don't :'( :'( however them older *****'s like 15 + (only the guys) i put my hands right on their butts.... i have had to jack a few up but now they don't try me as much, or when they see that look they be like ookkk i am just playin... I take them *****'s down police style... haha but it is all in love, i don't really put my hands on them in a serious manner... they don't take it that far
by the way the hair is tight... is that one of your creations
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well at my church... I have the permisson to do so from all my parents but i don't :'( :'( however them older *****'s like 15 + (only the guys) i put my hands right on their butts.... i have had to jack a few up but now they don't try me as much, or when they see that look they be like ookkk i am just playin... I take them *****'s down police style... haha but it is all in love, i don't really put my hands on them in a serious manner... they don't take it that far
by the way the hair is tight... is that one of your creations
Divinemusician! I'm shocked at you! This is a christian site! ::) ;) :D
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SO I just got back from the rehearsal! Not as bad as I thought it would be... however ALL the kids weren't there, some are out of town and stuff. But anyways, everything went well. My oldest niece who is 12 didn't want to do it anymore because she realized how tall she was over everyone else :-\. Well, the little girl that I metioned earlier that cries alot she didn't cry lol, I gave her a lead part in a song, she has a cute lil voice BTW. Well at first she was kinda bashful about it so I kinda encouraged her to do it. While in the process my lil godsister who is 4 said, "Bitney, I wanna do it", then she goes, "If she don't wanna do it I'll do it" :D. That lil girl is hilarious, she'll have yal rolling. But yeah, everything went well, except for the interruptions by my godsister who kept tapping me lol. She also tried to tell me how to teach the song! lol
I'm glad God worked it out for you. :)
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Divinemusician! I'm shocked at you! This is a christian site! ::) ;) :D
HAHA AND YOU RIGHT... AND I JUST LAY HOLY HANDS... ;D ;D ;D
But in all honestly, I tell my parents and my youth, THEY WILL BE SOMETHING, THEY WONT BE NO THUGS THEY WONT BE NO BABY MOMMAS OR DADDY'S, NO _OES... (U FILL IN THE BLANK), THEY ARE GOING TO BE SOMEBODY IN LIFE, THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHING, THEY WILL BE AWESOME MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD, THEY WILL UPHOLD THEIRSELVES...AND NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES FROM ME, I WILL SEE MY KIDS THOUGH
The sad thing is I am not even the Youth President, it is a big thing going on between him and me. (its a long story more so his part becaue he really does not like me, he is one of those knows everything and you can't tell him anything and it is his way or no way, big on his pride and a woman possibly cant know more or do better than him) he came in and took christmas plays, easter plays, everything from the kids, all the kids do is sit at church and look crazy...
But i don't let his ignorance stop me, I do most of my ministry outside the church and the kids love it and the parents respect me more than they do him
like one of my youth got drunk (17 years old, under peer pressure, in which i know for a fact he was) and instead of the parent calling our "youth president" she called me, I got him, we went to church that sunday, I talked to him and ministered to him, he stayed at my house for two days to sober up and things, i made him also write me a report on alcohol and what it does to the body, not only did he do my report but he told somebody that i am close to, if it was not for me and my sister (best friend who is named Kisha as well) taking him in, showing him love, and letting him know he is somebody, he would have tried ot kill his self (because even though the ppl he stay with go ot our church it is soem serious issues in their house) but anyways... so i deal with a lot at my church with my youth and i go the extra mile becasue we are bringing up good citizens and good men and women of God.
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LOL... thats funny! But nah... I don't touch ppl kids, even if they did give me permission :-\. The kids are good though, they LOVE me for some reason, even though I don't pay them any mind, one lil boy he's 5 he has a crush on me, its so cute! lol
But no, thats not something I did... I only know how to do hearts, I'ma try it though.
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Just keep a switch beside you and all should go well. Every now and then just swat it through the air and let them hear that "whiiiirrrr" and carry on.
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Just keep a switch beside you and all should go well. Every now and then just swat it through the air and let them hear that "whiiiirrrr" and carry on.
:D :D :D
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I'm glad God worked it out for you. :)
Thanks!
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I'm sure you're going to do a great job Britt, don't worry things will work out. ;)
Much prayer much pah-buh :D :D :D
Little prayer little pah-buh :D :D :D
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Just keep a switch beside you and all should go well. Every now and then just swat it through the air and let them hear that "whiiiirrrr" and carry on.
i see we are on the same page here... hahaha ;D :D :D :D
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I'm sure you're going to do a great job Britt, don't worry things will work out. ;)
Much prayer much pah-buh :D :D :D
Little prayer little pah-buh :D :D :D
:D :D Thanks Vonne
HAHA AND YOU RIGHT... AND I JUST LAY HOLY HANDS... ;D ;D ;D
But in all honestly, I tell my parents and my youth, THEY WILL BE SOMETHING, THEY WONT BE NO THUGS THEY WONT BE NO BABY MOMMAS OR DADDY'S, NO _OES... (U FILL IN THE BLANK), THEY ARE GOING TO BE SOMEBODY IN LIFE, THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHING, THEY WILL BE AWESOME MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD, THEY WILL UPHOLD THEIRSELVES...AND NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES FROM ME, I WILL SEE MY KIDS THOUGH
The sad thing is I am not even the Youth President, it is a big thing going on between him and me. (its a long story more so his part becaue he really does not like me, he is one of those knows everything and you can't tell him anything and it is his way or no way, big on his pride and a woman possibly cant know more or do better than him) he came in and took christmas plays, easter plays, everything from the kids, all the kids do is sit at church and look crazy...
But i don't let his ignorance stop me, I do most of my ministry outside the church and the kids love it and the parents respect me more than they do him
like one of my youth got drunk (17 years old, under peer pressure, in which i know for a fact he was) and instead of the parent calling our "youth president" she called me, I got him, we went to church that sunday, I talked to him and ministered to him, he stayed at my house for two days to sober up and things, i made him also write me a report on alcohol and what it does to the body, not only did he do my report but he told somebody that i am close to, if it was not for me and my sister (best friend who is named Kisha as well) taking him in, showing him love, and letting him know he is somebody, he would have tried ot kill his self (because even though the ppl he stay with go ot our church it is soem serious issues in their house) but anyways... so i deal with a lot at my church with my youth and i go the extra mile becasue we are bringing up good citizens and good men and women of God.
Yeah I can understand what you're saying. My youth Pastor did the same thing. Stripped the youth from EVERYTHING, he said they were gonna do that until the youth learn how to act right. And it really discouraged one lady that use to go to my church because she started like a drama ministry and had sooo much planned out for us. Like one day we went to an orphange, then she had on the calendar for us to go to ATL for something can't rememeber. But yeah, and now he's not even active in the church, but yet he's still the youth pastor. So for a while the youth never really did anything except sit in church and look crazy as you stated lol. Some have even left the church. Which is why my Co Pastor asked me to direct because she said the youth isn't active, they need something to do.
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Yeah I can understand what you're saying. My youth Pastor did the same thing. Stripped the youth from EVERYTHING, he said they were gonna do that until the youth learn how to act right. And it really discouraged one lady that use to go to my church because she started like a drama ministry and had sooo much planned out for us. Like one day we went to an orphange, then she had on the calendar for us to go to ATL for something can't rememeber. But yeah, and now he's not even active in the church, but yet he's still the youth pastor. So for a while the youth never really did anything except sit in church and look crazy as you stated lol. Some have even left the church. Which is why my Co Pastor asked me to direct because she said the youth isn't active, they need something to do.
YEP He is our YOuth minister as well... the sad thing is he is the pastor's son, nobody knows how he got this position bc he has never ever ever ever done anything with the youth prior to him getting this "title" and makes so many promises that he breaks ALLLLLLLL the time.... when he FINLALLY plans something the kids say they only way they aer going to do it is if we be there or if we say now you got to do it in spite of what you may feel. Now he just planned a trip and all the kids stay they are not going!! he burned his own bridges... but he can't see that which is sad, he only wanted the position for a title
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HAHA AND YOU RIGHT... AND I JUST LAY HOLY HANDS... ;D ;D ;D
But in all honestly, I tell my parents and my youth, THEY WILL BE SOMETHING, THEY WONT BE NO THUGS THEY WONT BE NO BABY MOMMAS OR DADDY'S, NO _OES... (U FILL IN THE BLANK), THEY ARE GOING TO BE SOMEBODY IN LIFE, THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHING, THEY WILL BE AWESOME MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD, THEY WILL UPHOLD THEIRSELVES...AND NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES FROM ME, I WILL SEE MY KIDS THOUGH
The sad thing is I am not even the Youth President, it is a big thing going on between him and me. (its a long story more so his part becaue he really does not like me, he is one of those knows everything and you can't tell him anything and it is his way or no way, big on his pride and a woman possibly cant know more or do better than him) he came in and took christmas plays, easter plays, everything from the kids, all the kids do is sit at church and look crazy...
But i don't let his ignorance stop me, I do most of my ministry outside the church and the kids love it and the parents respect me more than they do him
like one of my youth got drunk (17 years old, under peer pressure, in which i know for a fact he was) and instead of the parent calling our "youth president" she called me, I got him, we went to church that sunday, I talked to him and ministered to him, he stayed at my house for two days to sober up and things, i made him also write me a report on alcohol and what it does to the body, not only did he do my report but he told somebody that i am close to, if it was not for me and my sister (best friend who is named Kisha as well) taking him in, showing him love, and letting him know he is somebody, he would have tried ot kill his self (because even though the ppl he stay with go ot our church it is soem serious issues in their house) but anyways... so i deal with a lot at my church with my youth and i go the extra mile becasue we are bringing up good citizens and good men and women of God.
Wow @ your Youth President
and Wow @ your testimony. That's awesome!
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YEP He is our YOuth minister as well... the sad thing is he is the pastor's son, nobody knows how he got this position bc he has never ever ever ever done anything with the youth prior to him getting this "title" and makes so many promises that he breaks ALLLLLLLL the time.... when he FINLALLY plans something the kids say they only way they aer going to do it is if we be there or if we say now you got to do it in spite of what you may feel. Now he just planned a trip and all the kids stay they are not going!! he burned his own bridges... but he can't see that which is sad, he only wanted the position for a title
*in operatic voice*
Ahh! Nepotism at it's finest!
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*in operatic voice*
Ahh! Nepotism at it's finest!
welll :-\ i kinda would not say that about our pastor... more so the son taking advantage of a situation, you see our pastor is in a wheelchair... he has had like several strokes, and things... the son we are talking about was in the car with him one day (he was drving, the son) and he got in an accident that left our pastor paralyzed, so he preaches from the wheelchair... my father is the associate pastor, so i think the son took advantage of a situation and when our pastor was down... feed him a whole bunch of NOT TRUTHS and got the position because how he got that over my mother, me, my best friend and a few others in the church... we will never see... its been aobut 5 years since he has gotten htat positon and needless to say, some you have left, had babies, went to jail, not interested in church... and you konw i honestly believe it is all bc of our youth dept. we aren't teachin these kids nothing and lets me honest know ah days parents really need help!!! you got a few parents that really got it going on, but most parents they need the church to tell their kids the TRUTH about sex, marriage, being a woman, being a man, loving inspite of, etc. not just about cars and houses God will bless you with.
and htat is what I do, I keep it very real with both parents and youth, if i say it to the youth, i say it to the parent... i make sure me and that parent agree before i do anything or take their kids anywhere....
like with the group, me and my best friend take them out once a month, whether it be bowling, back to our house for bbq and movie, etc whatever (mind you the parents don't give us a dime, however we ask them not too because we understand times are hard and me and my best friend are single so we try to be a blessin when we can) anyways one of the rules is if they participate in the fun... they participate in Bible lessons, etc...
in sept we have a Bible Breakfast we are doing at the house... Romans 12 presenting your bodies... in this we will also address presenting your body as far as taking care of yourself, men: groom yourself, wear nice clothing when need be, take pride in who you are know your worth, etc. Women: you are beautiful and wonderfully made, you don't need a man to validate you, groom yourself, present yourself in a womanly fashion... etc.
lets be real our youth need to be tought... our parents are scared to talk about it, the church don't want to talk about it... somebody got to tell these youth the truth about the matter... like i said i do everything through the parents, my mother and father approve of everything before i present it and not only that but I get direction from God on what to say, do etc with the youth...
(sorry, i know the thread was not orginally about this)
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This is good. This is very good. I co-sign 100%. I stumbeled across an article a while ago (and they were talking about this subject on the radio one time) that said that churches teach youth about abstainance and condoms. I really think both need to be taught. However I don't agree with the way it was being taught. The message that was sent, for the most part, was 'God says sex is for married folk, but since you're going to disobey God anyway wear a condom.'
IMO it should be taught in a way the promotes what God asks of us. I really like how you teach them how to be men and women. I doubt most youth ministries do that.
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This is good. This is very good. I co-sign 100%. I stumbeled across an article a while ago (and they were talking about this subject on the radio one time) that said that churches teach youth about abstainance and condoms. I really think both need to be taught. However I don't agree with the way it was being taught. The message that was sent, for the most part, was 'God says sex is for married folk, but since you're going to disobey God anyway wear a condom.'
IMO it should be taught in a way the promotes what God asks of us. I really like how you teach them how to be men and women. I doubt most youth ministries do that.
WHAT! I am happy the church talks about sex but never would i say well being htat you going to do it anyway here is a rubber... lol... HECK NO my youth know not to even try me like.... it is what God says anything less is disobedance and although God will forgive you... do you keep on sinning knowing it is wrong? I actually have quite a few teens who have not had sex, and I be real with them....
YES WE DO GET THOSE NIGHTS WHERE WE WANT SOMEBOYD (THIS IS FOR THE OLDER ONES) WE ARE HUMAN... BEING SAVED DOES NOT ELIMINATE YOUR HUMAN -NESS TO WANT THINGS... THE BIBLE SAYS SIN FEELS GOOD TO THE FLESH, AND I TELL THEM OF COURSE SEX, CHILLIN, ETC GOING TO FEEL GOOD BUT THERE IS A HIGHER CALLING YOU ARE WORTH MORE THAN A ONE TIME DEAL OR A WOMAN THAT ONLY LIKES YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE CUTE OR A MAN WHO THINKS YOU ARE HOT...
MEN FIND A WOMAN WORTH MORE THAN RUBIES... YOUR FAVOR IS IN HER
WOMEN RECEIVED A GODLY MAN TO COME INTO YOUR LIFE,
let me stop because i can type a book, but i agree with being real with these youth and still standing on Gods Word. I don't like saved folk that act like they don't get a craving for sex (single folks) every now in then, cold showers run out quickly... what do i do next. How do we tell a man to get up from a situation where he is craving that woman and vis versa... we need to talk about this, our youth is faced with temptation on a day to day base and we as church folk act like we can't feel, see, or understand them... that is bull... we are still human...
ok i am stopping NOW!!
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let me stop because i can type a book, but i agree with being real with these youth and still standing on Gods Word. I don't like saved folk that act like they don't get a craving for sex (single folks) every now in then, cold showers run out quickly... what do i do next. How do we tell a man to get up from a situation where he is craving that woman and vis versa... we need to talk about this, our youth is faced with temptation on a day to day base and we as church folk act like we can't feel, see, or understand them... that is bull... we are still human...
ok i am stopping NOW!!
Red: Gon' head and preach precha! :D
One thing I'm trying to do is to make a list of things that work for me that may work for others when it comes to "the craving". Lol. I've noticed that when it comes up I don't want to listen to gospel music. So I turn gospel music on. I read parts of the Bible I find interesting, go for a drive, do something to keep my mind off of it. Even prayer works. I've noticed that sincere prayer with praise first works better. Also, I stay out of any an all room that feed "the craving" and stay away from dudes that may feed "the craving". I think of things I wanted to do that day cause 9.5/10 I haven't done them and could be doing them in place of thinking about sex. But so far that's what works for me. This kinda stems from this thing I read on Yahoo Answers! about how kids will have sex out of boredom. In order for you to give in to any temptation you have to co-sign with your flesh but if you're too preoccupied with something more interesting or you love the Lord enough to respect his wishes (which works the best) then it becomes easier to not sin in that way.
If I have a male friend going though the same thing I'm going to see what he does and hopefully we can make a blog about our methods. :)
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Red: Gon' head and preach precha! :D
One thing I'm trying to do is to make a list of things that work for me that may work for others when it comes to "the craving". Lol. I've noticed that when it comes up I don't want to listen to gospel music. So I turn gospel music on. I read parts of the Bible I find interesting, go for a drive, do something to keep my mind off of it. Even prayer works. I've noticed that sincere prayer with praise first works better. Also, I stay out of any an all room that feed "the craving" and stay away from dudes that may feed "the craving". I think of things I wanted to do that day cause 9.5/10 I haven't done them and could be doing them in place of thinking about sex. But so far that's what works for me. This kinda stems from this thing I read on Yahoo Answers! about how kids will have sex out of boredom. In order for you to give in to any temptation you have to co-sign with your flesh but if you're too preoccupied with something more interesting or you love the Lord enough to respect his wishes (which works the best) then it becomes easier to not sin in that way.
If I have a male friend going though the same thing I'm going to see what he does and hopefully we can make a blog about our methods. :)
COOL... that works... let me know. Our kids need to be told the truth about a lot of issues and most church folk, we act to holy, so heavenly bound and we are earthly no good, we think that we don't feel like that or we better than that etc... we are human and flesh is flesh, your flesh craves sin, thats why we have to crusify it daily and put on the armor of God!!
Like you said those are some good methods that need to be talked about in the church, our youth don't have to give it saved or not, they don't have to be what the world says they will be... they can be kings and queens of the most high, yes our walk with Christ is a great walk but if you ain't stumbled then let me know your secret but until then we need to address REAL ISSUES with these kids and stop actin like we so HOLY that we sit on God's Executive Board (G.E.B.) and we are not tempted, that sinful things don't come to attack us, these youth are in need of REALNESS not another I am too saved to even think that... lets get real... I tell them yes, I am 25 years old, I am still the "Big V" bc I choose to respect God and my body, and you can do it too, yes it comes times where it is hard and my male friend lookin too good, and yes that voice says one time wont hurt but I made a promoise to God and myself... You can do it too.
but you hit everything on the head...
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COOL... that works... let me know. Our kids need to be told the truth about a lot of issues and most church folk, we act to holy, so heavenly bound and we are earthly no good, we think that we don't feel like that or we better than that etc... we are human and flesh is flesh, your flesh craves sin, thats why we have to crusify it daily and put on the armor of God!!
Like you said those are some good methods that need to be talked about in the church, our youth don't have to give it saved or not, they don't have to be what the world says they will be... they can be kings and queens of the most high, yes our walk with Christ is a great walk but if you ain't stumbled then let me know your secret but until then we need to address REAL ISSUES with these kids and stop actin like we so HOLY that we sit on God's Executive Board (G.E.B.) and we are not tempted, that sinful things don't come to attack us, these youth are in need of REALNESS not another I am too saved to even think that... lets get real... I tell them yes, I am 25 years old, I am still the "Big V" bc I choose to respect God and my body, and you can do it too, yes it comes times where it is hard and my male friend lookin too good, and yes that voice says one time wont hurt but I made a promoise to God and myself... You can do it too.
but you hit everything on the head...
Not only that but some adults are scared to talk to kids about it. I can't tell you how many times I've heard or read on forums "If I tell them about it they'll want to do it more". No...If you DON'T tell them about it they're more likely to do it more! I would think it would be a hard subject to bring up. It was for my parents. There was only one time where my parents initiated "the talk". My mom was making dinner and my dad was watching TV. (The TV room and the kitchen are connected) and this commercial came on and said something like "talk to your kids" and my mom said in a half joking voice, "we should talk to them." So my dad called me and my sisters in and said, "Ya'll know not to have sex before you're married, right?" We all said, "yes". And he said, "Good. Now go do your homework". lol
However I have gotten my parent's POV on certain things by striking up convos myself by saying stuff like, "I was on the internet and..." or "I was talking to my friends and...." or "such and such happened and..." You know? 9.5/10 I was telling the truth about where the source of the information was coming from. It took me a while to stop calling sex "it" around my parents, though. :D
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but you know what it aint even all about sex these days...
We need to teach them a lot about life, how to do job interviews, be good husbands and good wives, lets be honest half the children at the church have single parent homes and a young man needs to be trained in the dos and don'ts of a husband, father, man, etc. the same with the females.
Train up a child... that just don't mean in "church related issues" train them up in life!!! I am who I am because I had a mother that trained me up right, a father that validated me at home, I didn't need a man to tell me I looked good because my father always called me beautiful so when it came out of a boys mouth, my next response was, thats all you see!!! tell me something else, lol.
A lot of our youth don't have the blessing of having a family liek me and yours, both parents, etc. So validation is lacking and to me, it is the church responsiblity to pick up the slack, after all if we don't do it, THE WORLD IS OUT THERE TO DO IT!! We can't fault the world any longer for grabbing our youth, because we as a B.O.C. have failed to 1. Keep it Real with the youth, 2. Let the youth know their worth, etc. Not everything needs to be preached from the pulpit, get down from the pulpit and get amoung your youth and be REAL with them, let them know you are human but you are special too because you belong to God...
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CO-SIGN!!
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So, today was the 3rd rehearsal. There were more kids, but that wasn't all of them, the rest will be coming next week, oh boy! :o
Well, as I was turning on the sound board and setting up the mics, I wasn't quiete ready for them yet, and I was on the phone while I was doing this. The kids just come rushing, and grabs the mics and talking all loud, then my lil godsister who is 4. Keeps telling me to give her a mic, and to put the stand directly infront of her and lower it. I'm like Jadyn, this isn't your own personal mic, you have to share! lol (the kids are like 4-10 btw). Meanwhile, their all running around, and just out of control! lol My co pastor couldnt be there tonight because she was a lil busy with something. But my goodness! Once I was ready for them I got them all under control! lol Only thing is.. they all wanted a mic to themselves, they almost started fighting over the mics! Lawd.. help! LOL