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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Drummers => Topic started by: TorontosFinest on August 04, 2008, 01:59:50 PM
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Not sure if this has been posted, but this is the reason why he will always be one of my favourite drummers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnbUnzg9T3U&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnbUnzg9T3U&feature=related)
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yeah thats a hot clip..
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he sounds good.
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He sounds like Dude-on-Drumma_Sheen.
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Nice clip. Hated the cymbals though....
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It was an ok clip. IMHO whenever I see clips of Gerald it seems like he plays a lot the same grooves, does the same stick tricks and the same fills/licks. I'm not trying to hate, its just what i see!
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It was an ok clip. IMHO whenever I see clips of Gerald it seems like he plays a lot the same grooves, does the same stick tricks and the same fills/licks. I'm not trying to hate, its just what i see!
COSIGN
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It was an ok clip. IMHO whenever I see clips of Gerald it seems like he plays a lot the same grooves, does the same stick tricks and the same fills/licks. I'm not trying to hate, its just what i see!
Let's break down the obvious. He does this because he wants to attract attention from people who aren't familiar with him, otherwise he'd look just like you! For a typical viewer (non-drummer) , it's really impressive for a drummer to play very well and have some cool tricks up their sleeve to add. It leaves a lasting impression.
So expect to see drummers continue to do what they do well. I.E..Eric Moore...
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Did Gerald hit his peak back in 1993/4? I thought he was a lot better during the era when he recorded that classic with James Hall.
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Had 2 jump in on this one. I have not nor will i ever diss anybody on here that's not my thing. But 2 say Gerald sounds like this person or that person is crazy. Dude has been playing like that 4 the last 20 something years. Dude is a gospel legend and i say that because the influence he's had on cats 4 years. major cats!!! He changed alot of how gospel WAS being played at the time. And 4 those who say he sounds the same and maybe he do, that sound has kept him working 4 twenty something years straight. Has anybody ever remember him not working? That's him and that's his sound. Like i said i'm not here dissing anybody, or start anything. Just giving alil history. And he goes back way b4 James Hall. U gotta go back to Hez Walker 1st two records and old Timothy Wright joint that might not be in circulation anymore. Dude be around 4 a min.
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in my humble opinion i like gerald but at an extent he was one of my favorite drummers but hes over rated... this clip wasnt even all that i didnt even watch the whole thing cause i was bored! :-\
I hope i dont get shot down for saying that! :-X
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I watched a few seconds of the clip and turned it off. He seemed tense.
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I watched a few seconds of the clip and turned it off. He seemed tense.
lol.. i did the same..
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Just my 2 cents. Gerald is nearly 40 years old. I've been listening to him since 1986 when I was sixteen so that makes me 38. I hear all of the comments and people are entitled to make their comments. At this point in his career, is some of his playing, chops, and fills predictable, yes. Is it not as exciting as some of today's top cats, perhaps, yes again. That still does not negate what this man means to gospel and R&B music. The names Gerald Heyward, Jeff Davis, Dana Davis, Kevin Brunson, Michael Williams, and Joel Smith will still be in conversations 20 years from now for their impact on gospel music. You can't expect him to sound like today's musicians. He was brought up, groomed, and trained in a different era. It's not to say that he can't adapt and do a few new things, but he's from a different era. I dare say, Gerald can still outplay the majority of folks in this forum. Whether you're from the east coast, west coast, north or south, Gerald has influenced gospel and R&B music. Even if you claim, as some have, to never have even heard of him, he has influenced your playing. If he's so boring and outplayed, put your video on here and let's see you play.
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U know what crazy 2TallDrummer that in 2008 cats play his licks every sunday and don't even know it! U hit the nail right on the head. It's alil sad that cats don't know there history, it's even alil disrespectful but 2 each his own.
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U know what crazy 2TallDrummer that in 2008 cats play his licks every sunday and don't even know it! U hit the nail right on the head. It's alil sad that cats don't know there history, it's even alil disrespectful but 2 each his own.
*Co-Sign* ;) That is so true!!!!
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Just my 2 cents. Gerald is nearly 40 years old. I've been listening to him since 1986 when I was sixteen so that makes me 38. I hear all of the comments and people are entitled to make their comments. At this point in his career, is some of his playing, chops, and fills predictable, yes. Is it not as exciting as some of today's top cats, perhaps, yes again. That still does not negate what this man means to gospel and R&B music. The names Gerald Heyward, Jeff Davis, Dana Davis, Kevin Brunson, Michael Williams, and Joel Smith will still be in conversations 20 years from now for their impact on gospel music. You can't expect him to sound like today's musicians. He was brought up, groomed, and trained in a different era. It's not to say that he can't adapt and do a few new things, but he's from a different era. I dare say, Gerald can still outplay the majority of folks in this forum. Whether you're from the east coast, west coast, north or south, Gerald has influenced gospel and R&B music. Even if you claim, as some have, to never have even heard of him, he has influenced your playing. If he's so boring and outplayed, put your video on here and let's see you play.
Nobody is trying to take away from the fact that Gerald has contributed to Gospel and R&B music in such a big way! And yes, what Gerald decides to play is his signature, yes! BUT! Why can't he adapt? Whats wrong with adapting? Or better yet, whats wrong with renovating or (blaring horns!) CHANGE! Yes, I'll agree that Gerald has always been working but think about this, what would happen if drummers of today who play in church, got their musical chops (fundamentals) on point and could play every phrase that Gerald can currently play, do you think he'll still be working as much 5-10 years from now? (Ignore the fact that he's almost in his 40's)
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ojay16 u make a great point. Gadd, Cobham, Weckl, and Chambers still play the same way they have over the years and nobody askes them to adapt. Why because thats them, thats their styles. They have carved niches in the world of music that nobody can take from them. And i say that with confidence cause i've heard them all many times live. How dare i throw lil Gerald Heyward in the same breathe as those people!!! lol He has had just as much influence on some maybe even more that some of them. Back in 85 it wasn't those cats that made me fall in love with drums, it was him. It's because of him i've learned about them. They showed me how far u can go, how good u can be if u really practice. He planted the seed, he made me fall in love with them joints(drums). And4 the record there are a ton of cats that has take gospel, and r&b drumming to the next level. I think he'll be around, dude stuff is tried and true.
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You must be out of your mind to say that Weckl has been playing the same over the years lol! Weckl is the very reason for the inexcusable performances from Gerald. Weckl keeps getting better. So does Chick Corea. Age is no excuse people. Retire if you're washed up lol! That's how I see it. It would be pretty sad if someone posted a recent clip of me and it had to be defended by my playing 20 years ago lol! And Gerald did not influence all of us. I never knew who he was. Some of us grew up on Ladell. And I'm proud to say that my influence is not washed up by any means. Ladell is still killin. :)
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I think ojay16 pretty much said everything here...
2talldrummer or wateva in my opinion mis understood half the stuff we said! Im not even going to reply ojay said it (in nicer words).
2talldrummer you should post your own clip, plenty of people posted clips here. You calling out people like you something....
That pisses me off everything is always taken to the next degree on this forum. Then it makes other people look like bad... >:(
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Did someone just say Gerald's been playing the same since 1985? :D If that is true - that's extreme negligence. Also, without a doubt, Gerald was influential. He influenced my playing style - but that was certainly years ago. I was burnt out on Gerald by the late 90's, and he's still sounding the same.
Right now, he makes ME cry when he play.
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Did someone just say Gerald's been playing the same since 1985? :D If that is true - that's extreme negligence. Also, without a doubt, Gerald was influential. He influenced me playing style - but that was certainly years ago. I was burnt out on Gerald by the late 90's, and he's still sounding the same.
Right now, he makes ME cry when he play.
i heard you make people cry when you play to... lol... you must use that alot dont ya??? lol
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He's sure influenced me, that was a great clip. I do hear the same things sometimes but hey he's a great drummer and look at all the gospel and secular artists he's played for
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Gerald has earned his respect by his quality recordings, work and I give him his respect as a musician, but the clip wasn't anything I don't hear from some dude everytime I walk into Guitar Center or Sam Ash Music. :-\ In all honesty, I don't think he took anything seriously on this clip, because I didn't see him do the bounce ;D That's when you know he's in the zone. Like Lamont Sydnor! ;D ;D
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Gerald has earned his respect by his quality recordings, work and I give him his respect as a musician, but the clip wasn't anything I don't hear from some dude everytime I walk into Guitar Center or Sam Ash Music. :-\ In all honesty, I don't think he took anything seriously on this clip, because I didn't see him do the bounce ;D That's when you know he's in the zone. Like Lamont Sydnor! ;D ;D
agreed.
You must be out of your mind to say that Weckl has been playing the same over the years lol! Weckl is the very reason for the inexcusable performances from Gerald. Weckl keeps getting better. So does Chick Corea. Age is no excuse people. Retire if you're washed up lol! That's how I see it. It would be pretty sad if someone posted a recent clip of me and it had to be defended by my playing 20 years ago lol! And Gerald did not influence all of us. I never knew who he was. Some of us grew up on Ladell. And I'm proud to say that my influence is not washed up by any means. Ladell is still killin. :)
pwned.
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>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( How dare you all to talk about Gerald Heyward. Gerald is the Father of controversial threads in this forum :D :D :D :D
Just playing. There's not much negative that I can say about Gerald's playing. He's one of those guys that I love to hear and not see. There's something about his posture and movement behind the kit that makes me squirm. With that said, I love to hear him in a band/recording situation because he holds it down and keeps it solid. Seeing him in this type of situation doesn't intrigue me at all. Even still, he's a good drummer.
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Did Gerald hit his peak back in 1993/4? I thought he was a lot better during the era when he recorded that classic with James Hall.
I think you're thinking about eddie heyward, i don't think gerald played for james hall.
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I think you're thinking about eddie heyward, i don't think gerald played for james hall.
gerald has played with James Hall.
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gerald has played with James Hall.
pwned.
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It was an okclip. IMHO whenever I see clips of Gerald it seems like he plays a lot the same grooves, does the same stick tricks and the same fills/licks. I'm not trying to hate, its just what i see!
Gerald can play a lot of licks and has great chops but he's not a soloist, and he does not have to be!!! Also Steve Gadd plays the same licks all the time too! ......But like Steve, Gerald is a legend too! If it wasn't for him gospel & hip hop/r&b drumming would not be what it is now! Trust me, Im younger then he is but old enough to remember what is was like before him.
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Um, all Gerald is doing in this clip is fulfilling his obligation in helping Zildjian sell some cymbals be it that he has an endorsement deal with them. Hence ALL of the cymblas in the background. Gerald is working as we speak while you all bicker over nothing. Whether he is "past his prime" or not, he's got the Usher gig. What are you all doing? It aint that serious yall.
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Did Gerald hit his peak back in 1993/4? I thought he was a lot better during the era when he recorded that classic with James Hall.
No not at all. He had to calm down to keep his gigs. You think he could play for guys like Chris Brown or Beyonce flying licks every where like he use to!? The mans a machine when it comes to time and groove and feel that's a real drummer!!!
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I would also like to add that I am not putting Mr. Heyward on a pedatal and negating any of your abilities as a drummer. I'm just saying that it makes no sense to decide whether or not someone has "still got it" when they are constantly working. I believe it speaks for itself.
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I would also like to add that I am not putting Mr. Heyward on a pedastal and negating any of your abilities as a drummer. I'm just saying that it makes no sense to decide whether or not someone has "still got it" when they are constantly working. I believe it speaks for itself.
Correction above.
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U know what crazy 2TallDrummer that in 2008 cats play his licks every sunday and don't even know it! U hit the nail right on the head. It'salil sad that cats don't know there history, it's even alil disrespectful but 2 each his own.
And the funny thing is some of these guys don't know how stupid they sound when the say dumb things like he's over rated, like he just came on the scene or something. LOL! Most of you (who can) play his licks that he brought out in 1986 (before some of you were even a sperm) still today!!!!! Why do you think guys like Calvin and Aaron big him up!!!!
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Nobody is trying to take away from the fact that Gerald has contributed to Gospel and R&B music in such a big way! And yes, what Gerald decides to play is his signature, yes! BUT! Why can't he adapt? Whats wrong with adapting? Or better yet, whats wrong with renovating or (blaring horns!) CHANGE! Yes, I'll agree that Gerald has always been working but think about this, what would happen if drummers of today who play in church, got their musical chops (fundamentals) on point and could play every phrase that Gerald can currently play, do you think he'll still be working as much 5-10 years from now? (Ignore the fact that he's almost in his 40's)
But why does he have to adapt? To please people like you!? Does he have to, heck no! He's still first call for artists half his age!!! Adapt! That's just stupid!! He almost single handedly invented what gospel cats are doing today, he is the platform that most of you are standing on!!!!! And in that clip I saw him trying to do new things that others are doing today, he also holds sheds and learns from them too!!!
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But why does he have to adapt? To please people like you!? Does he have to, heck no! He's still first call for artists half his age!!! Adapt! That's just stupid!! He almost single handedly invented what gospel cats are doing today, he is the platform that most of you are standing on!!!!! And in that clip I saw him trying to do new things that others are doing today, he also holds sheds and learns from them too!!!
I agree. When one adapts, they don't set themelves apart which is the key in this business.
Now yall go buy some Zildjians as played by Gerald Heyward in the clip(shameless plug even though I'm a Sabian cat.)
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You must be out of your mind to say that Weckl has been playing the same over the years lol! Weckl is the very reason for the inexcusable performances from Gerald. Weckl keeps getting better. So does Chick Corea. Age is no excuse people. Retire if you're washed up lol! That's how I see it. It would be pretty sad if someone posted a recent clip of me and it had to be defended by my playing 20 years ago lol! And Gerald did not influence all of us. I never knew who he was. Some of us grew up on Liddell. And I'm proud to say that my influence is not washed up by any means. Ladell is still killin. :)
Yes he was wrong on Weckl BIG TIME!!! That dude only gets better and only proves that age should not be an excuse!!!!
Now on to your post; Then you need to tell Steve Gadd to quit and some of the big and not so big legends who you might deem of their game!!! I don't understand why some of you feel that Gerald has to do a blaze clip of stuff that younger people are doing to be respected!!! Guy even Ladell was lifting Gerald stuff back in the day (Ive heard him at several gigs) , so yes indirectly you are influenced by Gerald!!!!
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The point i was making was that yes Weckl is incredible and is better than he was 20 yrs ago, but nobody ask him to adapt or conform. He has his place just like they have their place in drumming. I love Weckl, dude is amazing but i have mad respect 4 Gee. LOL i saw Weckl play at yamaha groove night back in Janurary at NAMM and he wasn't that great. Do it erase who he is, and what he's done, or what he's meant 2 drumming? NO!!!
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It's not JUST that Gerald still sounds the same...
...but, compared to the other guys that were named, Gerald's vocab is a tad bit limited. However, many drummers, consciously or subconsciously, have a need to prove their worth to other drummers. That's why so many drummers styles are 'drummer-pleasing', as opposed to "audience-pleasing".
The crowd, generally, wants to feel the music of a collective effort. Drummers generally tune everyone out, and derive their enjoyment from the drummer doing things that they can't do.....yet. Which is the whole point of checking you out. As soon as they get to a set, they're going to try what they heard you play.
Every instrument is a world of it's own, and many people that live in it. That's the root of the problem, in my opinion. Too cliquish. Key players , in a crowd of other musicians, will mingle amongst themselves. The same for everyone else. This leads to talk about technical blah-blah that only someone from your instrument will care too much about. However, once we liberate ourselves from that clique mentality, you can't have a stimulating conversation about music, unless it's about the music. A guitar player doesn't really care to hear about your ability to spin the stick on your tongue, for too long. The one thing you have in common, is that you both play music.
Not sure what in the heck any of this has to do with Gerald - but when you figure it out, let me know.
PS: The rant above, of course, does not apply to all. However, I've been in very few conversations where drummers talked about playing for the music. However, I've listened in on far too many where people talked about sheds, or how restricted they feel in a musical setting.
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None of this matters. Nobody was dissin' his style when cats all over the globe were trying to learn all of his licks. Nobody was dissin' his style when he was killing with James Hall, Mary J. Blige, Blackstreet, Hezekiah Walker (for those fortunate enough to see him on that hit), Beyonce', and Destiny's Child. Why? Because like everybody else, they were too busy bobbin' their heads. Gerald has made his mark (notice how he's the topic and not anyone else here?). Make your mark. Blaze your own trail. Get in the game and get off the bench. Not directed at any single person. Howeever, if the shoes fit, buy 2 pair and wear 'em proud. If you don't like the shoes, find a STYLE that fits U!
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Im bothered by the disrespect for the guy!!! Its just funny to me how some of you can diss the guy and say he's washed up and players all the same old licks but then turn around and say Steve Gadd, Vinny Colaiuta and Buddy Rich are drum gods! Gerald did the same thing those guys did but he did it for gospel and hip hop/ r&b!!!! These cats today (I wont name names because some get so immature and will start with the hater crap) can not tie the guys shoes when it comes to feel and groove!!!! And trust me half of you were still peeing your diapers and missed out on seeing Gerald when he was crazy!!!!! He did things Im still trying to lift!!! I have videos from 1989 both bootleg I have to find a way to get some of it on youtube so you can see what you missed!!!!!
The Bible says respect your elders! There's a reason for that!!!! That's why some of you have fast hands but cant hold a steady pocket!!!!!
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Im bothered by the disrespect for the guy!!! Its just funny to me how some of you can diss the guy and say he's washed up and players all the same old licks but then turn around and say Steve Gadd, Vinny Colaiuta and Buddy Rich are drum gods! Gerald did the same thing those guys did but he did it for gospel and hip hop/ r&b!!!! These cats today (I wont name names because some get so immature and will start with the hater crap) can not tie the guys shoes when it comes to feel and groove!!!! And trust me half of you were still peeing your diapers and missed out on seeing Gerald when he was crazy!!!!! He did things Im still trying to lift!!! I have videos from 1989 both bootleg I have to find a way to get some of it on youtube so you can see what you missed!!!!!
The Bible says respect your elders! There's a reason for that!!!! That's why some of you have fast hands but cant hold a steady pocket!!!!!
Very true Sir. He also played for R&B group Silk back in 1992. I know those guys very well as I grew up with Lil' G the lead singer. His resume speaks volumes. People who are "washed up" and "past their prime" don't work anymore. He seems to still be a first call cat. Like I said before, he has gotten all of the gigs that I wanted. He even had the Janet Jackson gig for a sec, but he broke his leg or something like that and I believe that's when Jonathan Mofett got the chair. how many of you know about THAT cat. Know that's a guy that is an underrated legend.
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Lol you all keep measuring a guy's greatness by the gig he holds...that's so shallow...
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Im bothered by the disrespect for the guy!!! Its just funny to me how some of you can diss the guy and say he's washed up and players all the same old licks but then turn around and say Steve Gadd, Vinny Colaiuta and Buddy Rich are drum gods! Gerald did the same thing those guys did but he did it for gospel and hip hop/ r&b!!!! These cats today (I wont name names because some get so immature and will start with the hater crap) can not tie the guys shoes when it comes to feel and groove!!!! And trust me half of you were still peeing your diapers and missed out on seeing Gerald when he was crazy!!!!! He did things Im still trying to lift!!! I have videos from 1989 both bootleg I have to find a way to get some of it on youtube so you can see what you missed!!!!!
The Bible says respect your elders! There's a reason for that!!!! That's why some of you have fast hands but cant hold a steady pocket!!!!!
Totally agree with you BBD. I have that video that Gerald played in 1989 and what he was doing then, some ppl are just learning now. He was and is a great influence to most of the drummers of today, and those who say that he is not an influence to them, then he influenced the drummers that you grew up on. Once I get that video converted and put in on You Tube, you will all see what I am talking about. This guy was light years before his time.
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I'm gonna say this and then I'm done. Thomas Pridgen, Chris Dave, Vinnie and Dave Weckl all have something in common. They have all fluently crossed genres throughout the years and they still sound fresh and innovative. You do not have to dig back 20 years to show their greatness. To tell you the truth, there are too many proficient and sound drummers to care about what anyone sounded like 20 years ago lol. Why would anyone care? What do you sound like today? Who's the flavor of the week? That is the realistic attitude of drumming fans...and don't say who cares what other drummers think cause we all do (hence all the defensiveness in this thread) lol. Some people have been in the game so long that their veteran status and political relationships can land them gigs alone, even though they may be washed up lol. That's why you cannot measure a drummer's greatness by how much money he makes and how many big gigs he can hold. You better know that Chris Dave doesn't make as much money and may not appear on tv as much as Teddy Campbell but...aw forget it. The 3ft pool is open all day in this thread and its free for everyone lol! Enjoy! Lol!!!
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I graduated school in 1989... middle school.
God bless ;)
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Pass around the collection plate...
...and give it all to Sheen.
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Pass around the collection plate...
...and give it all to Sheen.
;D ;D ;D
The 3ft pool is open all day in this thread and its free for everyone lol! Enjoy! Lol!!!
:D :D :D Sheen for LGM Drum Forum Mayor!!!! :D :D :D Dude you are too much!! :D :D :D
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Very true Sir. He also played for R&B group Silk back in 1992. I know those guys very well as I grew up with Lil' G the lead singer. His resume speaks volumes. People who are "washed up" and "past their prime" don't work anymore. He seems to still be a first call cat. Like I said before, he has gotten all of the gigs that I wanted. He even had the Janet Jackson gig for a sec, but he broke his leg or something like that and I believe that's when Jonathan Mofett got the chair. how many of you know about THAT cat. Know that's a guy that is an underrated legend.
He broke his hand.
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Lol you all keep measuring a guy's greatness by the gig he holds...that's so shallow...
Wrong! Im measuring his greatness on the trail he blazed and originated (any lick you did that you got off of him was called a Gerald) The number of cats who state Gerald as one of their biggest influences and his first call status that hes held for almost 20 years! Weather its Gospel or R&B.
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Ok...
I've followed this thread from the begining, just kinda taking things in...
I guess I'll add my 2 Abe Lincolns.
I respect Gerald and his contributions to the Craft, but to say that his conributions to the overall landscape of drumming are Gadd-like, Vinnie-esque, or Weckl-minded is a bit of a reach. I say that because Gerald's stuff is applicable to a small sector of the overall musical landscape. The stuff that Vinnie and Dave did/do translates across genere lines. Yes, I was relatively young when Gerald was in his prime, conversely I was probably barely alive (if at all) when Dave and Vinnie were hot in the 80's. I KNOW I wasn't around when Gadd burst on the scene in the 70's. I 100% respect what he brings to the table, honestly his stuff is a little dated. In the "what have you done for me lately?" world that we live in, it is tough to deal with a cat that one must dig back 20 years to find the best offerings of a particular player. I do not, however, think that it is disrespectful of cats to ask the question of why for it is simply a question.
I hope we can finally put our sticks down and quit hitting this dead horse.
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I'm gonna say this and then I'm done. Thomas Pridgen, Chris Dave, Vinnie and Dave Weckl all have something in common. They have all fluently crossed genres throughout the years and they still sound fresh and innovative. You do not have to dig back 20 years to show their greatness. To tell you the truth, there are too many proficient and sound drummers to care about what anyone sounded like 20 years ago lol. Why would anyone care? What do you sound like today? Who's the flavor of the week? That is the realistic attitude of drumming fans...and don't say who cares what other drummers think cause we all do (hence all the defensiveness in this thread) lol. Some people have been in the game so long that their veteran status and political relationships can land them gigs alone, even though they may be washed up lol. That's why you cannot measure a drummer's greatness by how much money he makes and how many big gigs he can hold. You better know that Chris Dave doesn't make as much money and may not appear on tv as much as Teddy Campbell but...aw forget it. The 3ft pool is open all day in this thread and its free for everyone lol! Enjoy! Lol!!!
I see what youre saying and youre right. BUT, I think we are looking at two different things and using the same name for it.
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I hope we can finally put our sticks down and quit hitting this dead horse.
(http://images.southparkstudios.com/media/images/602/602__image_09.jpg)
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Just a 'lil comic relief...
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I'm honestly kind of surprised at the amount of people that are down talking/disrespecting Gerald. IMO Gerald will always be one of the greatest and if his playing is that bad and washed up then why everytime you turn on your TV he's playing with a Top Billboard Artist? The reason is because he knows how to play pocket when needed and when to play out on a gig. His placement is amazing, which is something that can't be said for alot of us that are younger. He may not do as crazy of chops as Aaron on the gig but he gets it done well enough to keep those gigs and to make the audience happy because half the time the audience could care less if there were any fills or not they just wanna hear the hook of the song.
The problem is that everyone judges you on your chops. Sure Gerald uses some of the same licks but listning to his stuff now and from back then you do hear some differences/adaptations. I dont think some people realize where all this evolution in chops comes from. It started from somewhere and a bit of it came from Gerald. That's why you hear alot of cats like Aaron and such tell you that they studied Gerald and any person that is good at what they do eventually will take what they have studied and make it their own. Thats why even now you got people who have studied Aaron and Spanky sounding similar but different cause they have taken it to new places.
Now im sure if Gerald, Aaron, Spanky and all the other "Big Name" drummers could sit in their basements and shed like some of us can all day then they would still be breaking walls down but as we all know once you REALLY start workin and getting busy you have no time to shed. Especially when you have a family/kids or just a woman.
Thats just my 2cents
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Just my 1 cent. I am from NY. Im 43 years old and played the drums until I was 13 and then moved on to the organ. Let me state this and be very clear! In 1981 the Triboro Mass Choir made a record with a 10 year old Gerald Heyward playing on the Congas! YES I sad 10 years old! Maybe 11 but he could have not been older than that! I heard this man playing as a teenager still in high school in like 1983 playing for the Hit makers the Institutional Radio Choir out of Broklyn, NY. yes he was a teenager playing on their albums and for them on their 10:30 Sunday Night Live Radio Broadcast! HE WAS A BEAST! and he wasnt even 16 years old! He is a ledgend indeed!
I said all that to give you the true resume of of Gerald Heyward. He is a most humble and quiet guy who has taken his talent and used it to bless thousands of drummers across this country and the world! He himself and his style changed the game in the sound of R&B drummers. And Gospel? Man Please Gereald blew many dudes out the water and wasnt even trying. You have never and will never hear him lift himself up but he stays humble amongst all that God has blessed him with!
Yea just my one cent!
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Hey bobby1361 stop the panic. The water is only 3ft. Simply stand up or re-read my post and be rescued on the boat of truth. :-)
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Hey bobby1361 stop the panic. The water is only 3ft. Simply stand up or re-read my post and be rescued on the boat of truth. :-)
This brotha just slapped a 43 year old man from New York! OH SNAPZ!
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Just my 1 cent. I am from NY. Im 43 years old and played the drums until I was 13 and then moved on to the organ. Let me state this and be very clear! In 1981 the Triboro Mass Choir made a record with a 10 year old Gerald Heyward playing on the Congas! YES I sad 10 years old! Maybe 11 but he could have not been older than that! I heard this man playing as a teenager still in high school in like 1983 playing for the Hit makers the Institutional Radio Choir out of Broklyn, NY. yes he was a teenager playing on their albums and for them on their 10:30 Sunday Night Live Radio Broadcast! HE WAS A BEAST! and he wasnt even 16 years old! He is a ledgend indeed!
I said all that to give you the true resume of of Gerald Heyward. He is a most humble and quiet guy who has taken his talent and used it to bless thousands of drummers across this country and the world! He himself and his style changed the game in the sound of R&B drummers. And Gospel? Man Please Gereald blew many dudes out the water and wasnt even trying. You have never and will never hear him lift himself up but he stays humble amongst all that God has blessed him with!
Yea just my one cent!
Your post really does nothing more than bolster what those you are speaking to have been saying.
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Hey bobby1361 stop the panic. The water is only 3ft. Simply stand up or re-read my post and be rescued on the boat of truth. :-)
LOLOLOLOLOL! ;D DOD...you're too funny man!
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I'm gonna say this and then I'm done. Thomas Pridgen, Chris Dave, Vinnie and Dave Weckl all have something in common. They have all fluently crossed genres throughout the years and they still sound fresh and innovative. You do not have to dig back 20 years to show their greatness. To tell you the truth, there are too many proficient and sound drummers to care about what anyone sounded like 20 years ago lol. Why would anyone care? What do you sound like today? Who's the flavor of the week? That is the realistic attitude of drumming fans...and don't say who cares what other drummers think cause we all do (hence all the defensiveness in this thread) lol. Some people have been in the game so long that their veteran status and political relationships can land them gigs alone, even though they may be washed up lol. That's why you cannot measure a drummer's greatness by how much money he makes and how many big gigs he can hold. You better know that Chris Dave doesn't make as much money and may not appear on tv as much as Teddy Campbell but...aw forget it. The 3ft pool is open all day in this thread and its free for everyone lol! Enjoy! Lol!!!
Dude! You don't think Gerald has cross genres as these great drummers from Gospel,Hip Hop,R&B