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Gospel Instruments => General Music Hangout => Topic started by: 4hisglory on September 02, 2008, 04:14:38 PM
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How is your ear for music? Did you always have it, or did you have to develop it?
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How is your ear for music? Did you always have it, or did you have to develop it?
yes, I had to develop it, and I continue to daily
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How is your ear for music? Did you always have it, or did you have to develop it?
I think God gave me an ear for music when I was about 5. That was when I learned I could play by ear. I remember trying to play by ear before the Christmas my dad got the family keyboard at someone's house and I couldn't do it. However it does need to be developed more.
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I definitely had to develop mine. I am still having struggles with playing by ear.
I can however, recognize chord qualities very well. :)
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I'm learning that's all I can say ;D. That's why I did the name that key game...I need all the help I can get.
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I think since I've been working on my ear the most out of the years, it is the strongest. I can't play nearly as well as I can hear the chords in a song. I know people that play better than me who can't hear chords as well, if that even sounds possible. I can't hear runs (scales) as well though.
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I think since I've been working on my ear the most out of the years, it is the strongest. I can't play nearly as well as I can hear the chords in a song. I know people that play better than me who can't hear chords as well, if that even sounds possible. I can't hear runs (scales) as well though.
Yep this is me. I cannot hear the chords very well, which is why i NEED my choir to give me the songs they want to play ahead of time. I suck at playing songs on the fly.
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I have a singer's ear (meaning I can hear the harmonies, for the most part, while singing).
I can't translate that to my playing......yet. :-\
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Well I know I have to develop my ear I can hear the keys and changes but I can't just recognize the different progressions and filler's and passing chords as good but I can hear it.... But Im still working on it to this day... Im gettin better I can pick up a song on the spot now... but I just have to listen harder to find the right chords or I alwayz come close..to it I can hear runs and scales also... I can pick up a run
and work wit it....But most of all I had to listen before I play...
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How is your ear for music? Did you always have it, or did you have to develop it?
I'd say I have a strong ear for music now. I didn't always have it, but it developed quickly cuz I listen to music all the time.
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I have a singer's ear (meaning I can hear the harmonies, for the most part, while singing).
I can't translate that to my playing......yet. :-\
I can never hear the choir parts. Someone told me choirs sing in chords.
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I believe God has gifted me with "bigears", Literally and musically lol. From a very young age I have been able to hear and pick things out, copy things, and learn things real quick just by hearin em. And I'm the kinda person that if you give me theory, I will only remember it if I'm being tested on it, other than that, it floats wayy outside of my head. I'm not one with perfect pitch but I've always had a strong ear. Gotta give to God through what he gave to me ;D
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I can never hear the choir parts. Someone told me choirs sing in chords.
Basically, that's true. ;)
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My ear is okay. I started working on it about 10 years ago when I got my first church job. I started playing piano seriously when I was about 10. From age 10-17, I studied mostly classical. But due to my job playing for a youth choir, I had to play gospel. They supplied the sheet music, but it was not always available. I could always hear the bass line and I could hear the melody line, but I had to figure out what was in the middle. Sheet music helped, but usually only the first time around was transcribed. Due to my classical training, I was very meticulous in getting the right notes. So I spent many nights up late trying to learn a song for the next morning at church.
At first it was like this: listen to 3 seconds, try to hum or process in my head what I just heard, then translate it to the piano...or rewind (back in the days of cassettes) and listen to it again. Now depending on the song and how full the instrumentation is, I can usually pick out what is being played rather quickly.
If anyone has seen a couple of my youtube clips, you'll know that I try to play exactly what is played on the original track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ3lS05O8fQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ3lS05O8fQ) (mike bereal played the original)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQr4jFNiaKw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQr4jFNiaKw) (Cedric Thompson on the original)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4CvEnMkBqI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4CvEnMkBqI) (Kevin Bond on the original)
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Here's another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7oK-OEs-8c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7oK-OEs-8c) (Ivan Powell on the original)
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I belive that the ear is both a gift from God, and something that has to be developed. God gives us the potential, but it is up to us to fully develop it. ;D ;D ;D
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My ear is okay. I started working on it about 10 years ago when I got my first church job. I started playing piano seriously when I was about 10. From age 10-17, I studied mostly classical. But due to my job playing for a youth choir, I had to play gospel. They supplied the sheet music, but it was not always available. I could always hear the bass line and I could hear the melody line, but I had to figure out what was in the middle. Sheet music helped, but usually only the first time around was transcribed. Due to my classical training, I was very meticulous in getting the right notes. So I spent many nights up late trying to learn a song for the next morning at church.
At first it was like this: listen to 3 seconds, try to hum or process in my head what I just heard, then translate it to the piano...or rewind (back in the days of cassettes) and listen to it again. Now depending on the song and how full the instrumentation is, I can usually pick out what is being played rather quickly.
If anyone has seen a couple of my youtube clips, you'll know that I try to play exactly what is played on the original track.
I haven't tried to get a song 100% in about 5 years. I usually settle for getting the correct chords and a few of the scales. :(
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I haven't tried to get a song 100% in about 5 years. I usually settle for getting the correct chords and a few of the scales. :(
thats what Im talking about; I do realize the benefits though. But to that end, I respond by picking up the easiest moves, and the ones that sound the best.
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thats what Im talking about; I do realize the benefits though. But to that end, I respond by picking up the easiest moves, and the ones that sound the best.
Does that make us lazy? I know some people that would say so.
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Does that make us lazy? I know some people that would say so.
nah. I have to move on. You know how long it takes to get a song note for note! Those people dont have a good argument. Too many songs to learn, and so little time.
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I can hear the type of chords & notes ok depending on the complexity of the song/chord progression. The main problem for me comes with the Key/Pitch, I have tried numerous times to guess the notes played & I am wrong almost every time.
The pastors brother who lives in another town came to our church once & played the service. His ear was uncanny, He rehearsed 8 songs an hour before the service started & before the second line of the song was sung he was playing it like a professional & in the correct key sung too, I asked him the secret to this skill, he said pray & practice.
Casioman
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I haven't tried to get a song 100% in about 5 years. I usually settle for getting the correct chords and a few of the scales.
I was just thinking about this the other day. I don't sit and learn a song note for note either. I wouldn't say it makes us lazy. Everybody has different methods of learning. I feel it helps me with developing my own style, if I just learn the chords and add my own flava. Even from sheet music, I'll take the chords and voicing from the music. If I want to use a certain run or scale, then I would get that note for note, but as for the whole song in its entirety, I haven't done.
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Does that make us lazy? I know some people that would say so.
No i don't think it makes us lazy. I don't usually try and get a song note for note: way too hard for me, plus i gots other stuff to do. :)
The only thing i always try to get note for note is the intro of the song so that folk can recognize what song it is. Otherwise just the chords and te right scale is fine for me.
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I belive that the ear is both a gift from God, and something that has to be developed. God gives us the potential, but it is up to us to fully develop it. ;D ;D ;D
Very well said. I give him all the glory for the talent with which he has blessed me. But I also put in a lot of hard work...especially on the front end when I was first learning to play by ear.
Does that make us lazy? I know some people that would say so.
Of course not. It depends on the venue and the need. When Jason White recorded "Thank You Lord" with Mary Mary, he didn't play it exactly like Kevin Bond did (I think it was Bond) back when the Hawkins' family recorded it. Whereas not every soloist is a strong enough singer to sing a song regardless of what the musicians are playing, some are. Por ejemple, when my church sang "My Heart's Desire" about 3 years ago, the other keyboardist played it and I played strings or something. This joker was nowhere close to playing it like the CD, but it was the song. The soloist was complaining because she had practiced it so much with the original recording. So she was waiting for certain piano cues and such and they weren't there. In situations like these, it helps to play as closely to the original as possible.
nah. I have to move on. You know how long it takes to get a song note for note! Those people dont have a good argument. Too many songs to learn, and so little time.
It depends on how long you've been at it. It doesn't take me much longer than a day or two (in actuality, a few concentrated minutes or hours depending on the complexity of the song) to learn a song note for note.
The only thing i always try to get note for note is the intro of the song so that folk can recognize what song it is. Otherwise just the chords and the right scale is fine for me.
Song recognition is very important! I'm not a big fan of taking songs way out in the ocean to where they are barely recognizable at best when someone is singing it.
Check how close these two versions are.
Kevim Bond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvT8dl9zRo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvT8dl9zRo)
Mike Bereal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eii95gQrLCg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eii95gQrLCg)
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I definitely had to develop mine. I am still having struggles with playing by ear.
I can however, recognize chord qualities very well. :)
Copycat! :D