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Title: Minor Keys...
Post by: 4hisglory on September 22, 2008, 11:30:39 AM
When a song is in a minor key, how do you approach the song?  Are you think Major or are you thinking Minor with the minor chord being the 1?

Example:

In Ab, are you just thinking in Ab with the 6th (F) being the minor or do you think it as the F being the 1?
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: B3Wannabe on September 22, 2008, 11:55:44 AM
That's what I do. I just think like I'm in the major key.
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: Fenix on September 22, 2008, 12:57:13 PM
Yep, it is much easier for me to think of it being in the major key. That way i know all the notes that are associated with that particular minor key i am playing in.

For instance, if i am playing gin C minor, i just think Eb major.
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: Metronome on September 22, 2008, 03:14:29 PM
Actually I can (and have been forced) to do both.  I just take the minor as the one...like when im playin Bighter Day i think C minor instead of Eb major...it comes a little more narutal to my brain and hands lol
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: T-Block on September 22, 2008, 05:18:33 PM
I'm always thinking Major, unless I'm analyzing for school.
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: under13 on September 22, 2008, 05:21:32 PM
I just keep in mind to flat the 3rd.
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: csedwards2 on September 23, 2008, 12:32:32 AM
I think of the key Im in. Im not with this new age, analyze minors in a major key deal. 
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: Rjthakid on September 23, 2008, 11:09:04 AM
When a song is in a minor key, how do you approach the song?  Are you think Major or are you thinking Minor with the minor chord being the 1?

Example:

In Ab, are you just thinking in Ab with the 6th (F) being the minor or do you think it as the F being the 1?

To answer your example, if you're in F MINOR, then yes, you'd apply the chords you'd play in Ab Major. 

Something that I like to do is treat F like the 2 of Eb Major or the 3 of Db Major (or if you want to take it out a little even the 7 of F# Major).  This works because F is minor in Eb and Db and Diminished (nice!) in F#. 

You have to eventually come back to playing it as the 6 of Ab Major, but it sounds nice to change things up a little.
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: chevonee on September 23, 2008, 11:46:20 PM
I think in major as well. ;)
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: B3Wannabe on September 24, 2008, 12:53:10 AM
To answer your example, if you're in F MINOR, then yes, you'd apply the chords you'd play in Ab Major. 

Something that I like to do is treat F like the 2 of Eb Major or the 3 of Db Major (or if you want to take it out a little even the 7 of F# Major).  This works because F is minor in Eb and Db and Diminished (nice!) in F#. 

You have to eventually come back to playing it as the 6 of Ab Major, but it sounds nice to change things up a little.

I do that also. I made a post about it a while ago.
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: Rjthakid on September 24, 2008, 11:14:07 AM
I do that also. I made a post about it a while ago.

I guess there's nothing new under the sun.   :)
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: chevonee on October 13, 2008, 02:11:18 PM
I'm having trouble recognizing when a song is minor, I've certainly got a long way to go with this whole musician thing. :-[ :'( :-\
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: Fenix on October 13, 2008, 03:05:46 PM
I'm having trouble recognizing when a song is minor, I've certainly got a long way to go with this whole musician thing. :-[ :'( :-\

Any "sad" sounding progression is an indication that the song is a minor.
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: T-Block on October 13, 2008, 05:22:09 PM
I'm having trouble recognizing when a song is minor, I've certainly got a long way to go with this whole musician thing. :-[ :'( :-\

If u mean recognizing it by sound, then what Fenix told u is a good indication.  Another indication is if your 1 chord is minor, then you're in a minor key.  If your 1 chord is major, then you're in a major key.  That's how I judge it.

Let's say that u listening to a song and u determine that the key is C.  The first thing u should do is hit the major 1 chord to see if it fits with the song.  If it does, then chances are u in a major key.  If the major 1 chord doesn't fit, the minor should, and that should tell u you're in a minor key.
Title: Re: Minor Keys...
Post by: Fenix on October 13, 2008, 08:19:17 PM
If u mean recognizing it by sound, then what Fenix told u is a good indication.  Another indication is if your 1 chord is minor, then you're in a minor key.  If your 1 chord is major, then you're in a major key.  That's how I judge it.

Let's say that u listening to a song and u determine that the key is C.  The first thing u should do is hit the major 1 chord to see if it fits with the song.  If it does, then chances are u in a major key.  If the major 1 chord doesn't fit, the minor should, and that should tell u you're in a minor key.

Yep, T-Bizzle is right. Just listen for the resolving chord and you'll be good to go.