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Title: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on September 22, 2008, 01:42:19 PM
Brand new, I'm looking at the Fender American Standard 5 string and the Lakland Skyline Daryl Jones 5 string. Used, I'm trying to catch a Roscoe SKB series 5 string for a really good price ($1200 tops). Yeah, I know, I'm dreaming about that one but you never know! Anyway, has anyone here had any experience playing the Lakland Skyline DJ5? If so, how do you like the sound as compared to a Fender Jazz? Both of the models I'm looking at are passive but can have a pre-amp added and pups changed out pretty easily.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: ddwilkins on September 22, 2008, 01:46:15 PM
Brand new, I'm looking at the Fender American Standard 5 string and the Lakland Skyline Daryl Jones 5 string. Used, I'm trying to catch a Roscoe SKB series 5 string for a really good price ($1200 tops). Yeah, I know, I'm dreaming about that one but you never know! Anyway, has anyone here had any experience playing the Lakland Skyline DJ5? If so, how do you like the sound as compared to a Fender Jazz? Both of the models I'm looking at are passive but can have a pre-amp added and pups changed out pretty easily.

I know someone who has that jazz bass, but I'm sure he's not letting it go. He got it for a steal, really. $350!!! Now, if it were me, you'll have that bass shipped to you immediately. He likes it and doesn't want to get rid of it. BTW, the tone of that baby is sweet, especially running through his compressor.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: Main5playah on September 23, 2008, 06:43:45 PM
Brand new, I'm looking at the Fender American Standard 5 string and the Lakland Skyline Daryl Jones 5 string. Used, I'm trying to catch a Roscoe SKB series 5 string for a really good price ($1200 tops). Yeah, I know, I'm dreaming about that one but you never know! Anyway, has anyone here had any experience playing the Lakland Skyline DJ5? If so, how do you like the sound as compared to a Fender Jazz? Both of the models I'm looking at are passive but can have a pre-amp added and pups changed out pretty easily.

Whats' Good DWBass,I've played the Lakland it is sweet without question I enjoyed the feel and balance of the Axe, compared to the Fender I personally would roll with the Lakland. But everyone has a different ear.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on September 23, 2008, 07:17:07 PM
How was the neck profile as compared to the Fender? Thinner? Flatter?
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: Main5playah on September 23, 2008, 07:58:10 PM
How was the neck profile as compared to the Fender? Thinner? Flatter?

The neck actually was a little fatter which I prefer (Big Fingers) but fast, the Fender necks (The new ones anyway) are a bit slimmer.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on September 23, 2008, 08:20:10 PM
I guess I'll have to play them both. I would think the B is better on the DJ and usable on the Fender. I prefer 34" as well but was willing to work with the DJ.

To be continued..................
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jeremyr on September 24, 2008, 10:51:20 AM
you might think i'm nuts, but the Squire Affinity Jazz V is an amazing bass.

Especially seeing that it goes for like $199 brand new.

I can get better tone out of that bass then any "regular" fender.   It's an AMAZING bass with great build quality.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: floaded27 on September 24, 2008, 11:18:32 AM
I guess I'll have to play them both. I would think the B is better on the DJ and usable on the Fender. I prefer 34" as well but was willing to work with the DJ.

To be continued..................
whats significantly the difference between a 34" and something else? i believe the other common size is 35".
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: bassksun on September 24, 2008, 02:55:13 PM
you might think i'm nuts, but the Squire Affinity Jazz V is an amazing bass.

Especially seeing that it goes for like $199 brand new.

I can get better tone out of that bass then any "regular" fender.   It's an AMAZING bass with great build quality.

+1
I was shocked when I played it. I kept looking at the headstock to see if it really said Squire.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on September 24, 2008, 06:29:13 PM
I actually have a Squier Deluxe Active 5 string which is amazing for the price. I dig the 19mm spacing on the 34" neck. I owned a Lakland 55-01 for a minute and the neck was comfy but I don't think I got along with the 35" neck very well. I was thinking the Daryl Jones model with the slightly smaller body may make the neck more manageable. The Fenders are not quite 19mm but close (18.5-18.75mm). But I'm hearing the necks are a bit chunkier almost P bass-ish in feel. I was also eyeballing a Peavey Cirrus but I don't think those are 19mm. There is one on TB right now for $699 but I want the wider spacing.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on September 24, 2008, 07:43:53 PM
Oh, I forgot, I'm looking at the MTD Kingston Z series. I know someone here has one.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: dremy2006 on September 24, 2008, 08:33:54 PM
Oh, I forgot, I'm looking at the MTD Kingston Z series. I know someone here has one.
ME. :o.!!! ITS AH GREAT BASS NICE TONE AND VERY LIGHT....
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jeremyr on September 25, 2008, 10:44:51 AM
Oh, I forgot, I'm looking at the MTD Kingston Z series. I know someone here has one.

fyi that's 35"
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on September 25, 2008, 11:07:37 AM
Yep. I'm willing to try 35" again. I just saw a Lakland JO5 and a DJ5 with pickup covers and wow!! I may just wait for a used one to come up on TB.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: floaded27 on September 25, 2008, 12:39:24 PM
DW or jeremy, since u two are talking about the 35", do one of you have an answer to my question?

whats significantly the difference between a 34" and something else? i believe the other common size is 35".
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: ddwilkins on September 25, 2008, 12:51:10 PM
Maybe this will help answer your question.

http://www.glennletsch.com/html%20folder/taming.htm (http://www.glennletsch.com/html%20folder/taming.htm)


Personally, it doesn't bother as to which I have. Actually I have both 34 and 35 inch scale basses. I can't tell a difference as of yet, and that's because I don't look for sonic differences.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jeremyr on September 25, 2008, 01:38:52 PM
DW or jeremy, since u two are talking about the 35", do one of you have an answer to my question?


I started out on 35" and never had a problem going down to a 34" and coming back to a 35".  However once I made the 34" my primary instrument I cannot adjust back to the 35" scale for long periods of time.  My shoulder starts to hurt and my playing hand just doesn't feel right.

I can't explain it, but my body definitely agrees with the 34" for long term playability since I've made the jump and I don't care to go back to 35" at all.  I like not having to stretch super far to get my notes (I'm only 5'8", so I can definitely feel the difference after about 15 minutes )
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: floaded27 on September 25, 2008, 02:36:56 PM
So if thats the case, then it really depends a lot on the placement of the bridge on the body to determine really the length difference of the neck, right?
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jeremyr on September 25, 2008, 02:46:03 PM
So if thats the case, then it really depends a lot on the placement of the bridge on the body to determine really the length difference of the neck, right?

yes, but there's more to it.  The spacing of the frets are differnt measurements for each.

You can't take a 35" and move the bridge and maek it a 34".  It won't work.  You're intonation will be WAAAAY off
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: floaded27 on September 25, 2008, 04:01:17 PM
didnt say that you could just move the bridge back. i know the fret spacing is different, but if the bridge was located further back then the stretch to the first fret wouldnt be as much, because the neck wouldnt protrude as much from the body of the bass.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: dhagler on September 25, 2008, 04:04:17 PM
True.  I read somewhere that your 12th fret should be positioned halfway between your nut and your bridge.  While that is only a difference of one half inch between a 34" and 35" scale, the other frets would have to be placed proportionally as well.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jeremyr on September 25, 2008, 04:36:40 PM
didnt say that you could just move the bridge back. i know the fret spacing is different, but if the bridge was located further back then the stretch to the first fret wouldnt be as much, because the neck wouldnt protrude as much from the body of the bass.

ah, i get what you're saying.  I think that would mess with your frets you have available and leave you with a pretty funky body design that wouldn't be balanced to good (me thinks). 

TIM (callowhill) you around so you can go into a little more detail with your infinate wisdom on building?
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: dremy2006 on September 25, 2008, 04:56:29 PM
ohhh ok...
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: floaded27 on September 25, 2008, 05:15:48 PM
ah, i get what you're saying.  I think that would mess with your frets you have available and leave you with a pretty funky body design that wouldn't be balanced to good (me thinks). 

TIM (callowhill) you around so you can go into a little more detail with your infinate wisdom on building?

Im having trouble seeing why since its only 1 inch.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jeremyr on September 25, 2008, 05:21:02 PM
Im having trouble seeing why since its only 1 inch.


regardless of that 1 inch the stretch between frets would still be the same (which i couldn't take at all).
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on September 25, 2008, 07:44:08 PM
I know it's only an inch but it really does make a difference when reaching and playing in the fist and second fret positions! It can be fatiguing if you're not used to it. I'm still struggling with my decision to get a 34" or 35" bass.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: floaded27 on September 25, 2008, 10:21:43 PM
does the scale also determine the number of frets? because im particular to 24-fret basses.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jeremyr on September 25, 2008, 11:50:26 PM
does the scale also determine the number of frets? because im particular to 24-fret basses.

no, that is up to the builder
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: CallowHill on September 25, 2008, 11:54:52 PM
ah, i get what you're saying.  I think that would mess with your frets you have available and leave you with a pretty funky body design that wouldn't be balanced to good (me thinks). 

TIM (callowhill) you around so you can go into a little more detail with your infinate wisdom on building?

Floaded27 is dead on.  I only do 34", but you'll notice every bass I make (including the Junks) has the bridge at the far back edge of the body.  It makes it easier to reach the money makin' notes when engineered in conjunction with properly placed and executed body contours. 
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: hands5 on September 26, 2008, 09:04:35 AM
didnt say that you could just move the bridge back. i know the fret spacing is different, but if the bridge was located further back then the stretch to the first fret wouldnt be as much, because the neck wouldnt protrude as much from the body of the bass.
,but you still would have aggrivating intonaton problems
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on September 27, 2008, 08:47:48 AM
I'm looking at a Lakland 55-02 4sale over at TB. To be continued..........
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on September 28, 2008, 10:51:07 AM
I'm looking at a Lakland 55-02 4sale over at TB. To be continued..........
Ok, I bought the Lakland 55-02. Will report back when I receive it.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: BigFoot_BigThumb on September 28, 2008, 02:16:30 PM
Ok, I bought the Lakland 55-02. Will report back when I receive it.

Congrats.  That was my choice when I was Lakland shopping.  I fell in love with that pickup system.  Then I lost that auction on ebay by $20 and then I saw that TRB in the store and the rest was history. 
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: dhagler on September 28, 2008, 08:06:48 PM
Ok, I bought the Lakland 55-02. Will report back when I receive it.
Congratulations. Can't wait to hear sound clips.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: Rev.Dr. on September 29, 2008, 06:32:10 PM
Congrats on the 55-02. IMO the bass is an excellent buy for the money. I've had my 55-02 for about 4 months and I'm loving it more each day. It is a tone machine with an awesome low B!
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jmain on September 29, 2008, 09:37:53 PM
Yeah, man, congrats.  Great bass.  Had to make a tough choice and moved mine.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on October 08, 2008, 08:35:07 AM
Well, I received the bass yesterday! What a killer bass! It's a slap monster! Below are pics borrowed from the seller. The pickguard is not affixed. I removed it and am selling it.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/sweetdart26/IMG_0565.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/sweetdart26/IMG_0613.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/sweetdart26/IMG_0614.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/sweetdart26/IMG_0616.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: hands5 on October 08, 2008, 09:43:37 AM
Brand new, I'm looking at the Fender American Standard 5 string and the Lakland Skyline Daryl Jones 5 string. Used, I'm trying to catch a Roscoe SKB series 5 string for a really good price ($1200 tops). Yeah, I know, I'm dreaming about that one but you never know! Anyway, has anyone here had any experience playing the Lakland Skyline DJ5? If so, how do you like the sound as compared to a Fender Jazz? Both of the models I'm looking at are passive but can have a pre-amp added and pups changed out pretty easily.
DW I had a DJ5 for a very short time and I liked it because it was Passive,but I didn't care for the 35'inch Scale length,and I also wanted to get back to basses that the neck had  "True" Rock Maple not Quatersawn or flatsawn,but other than that it was a nice bass.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jeremyr on October 08, 2008, 11:40:25 AM
Well, I received the bass yesterday! What a killer bass! It's a slap monster! Below are pics borrowed from the seller. The pickguard is not affixed. I removed it and am selling it.

([url]http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/sweetdart26/IMG_0565.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/sweetdart26/IMG_0613.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/sweetdart26/IMG_0614.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/sweetdart26/IMG_0616.jpg[/url])


absolutely gorgeous!!!!
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: dhagler on October 08, 2008, 11:22:42 PM
The pickguard is not affixed. I removed it and am selling it.

Good move. :)
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: gambit23435 on October 09, 2008, 11:41:24 AM
SWEEEET ;D
Title: Update
Post by: DWBass on December 01, 2008, 10:39:46 AM
Well, the Lakland 55-02 didn't last long. I decided it was just not the bass for me so I replaced it with..............

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/dwalmz/LaklandJO5Headstock1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/dwalmz/JO5HeadstockCloseUp.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/dwalmz/LaklandJO5Body.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/dwalmz/100_0257.jpg)

...this!
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: dhagler on December 01, 2008, 10:33:13 PM
DW, which Lakland is that, the Joe Osborn or the Darryl Jones?

Whichever it is, it is beautiful! When you tire of it, I'm first in line! :D
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on December 02, 2008, 06:41:42 AM
DW, which Lakland is that, the Joe Osborn or the Darryl Jones?

Whichever it is, it is beautiful! When you tire of it, I'm first in line! :D
It's a Joe Osborne 5.
Title: Re: Update
Post by: jeremyr on December 02, 2008, 10:54:58 AM
Well, the Lakland 55-02 didn't last long. I decided it was just not the bass for me so I replaced it with..............

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/dwalmz/LaklandJO5Headstock1.jpg[/url])
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/dwalmz/JO5HeadstockCloseUp.jpg[/url])
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/dwalmz/LaklandJO5Body.jpg[/url])
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/dwalmz/100_0257.jpg[/url])

...this!


So how does it compare to the 55-02?  I never got any real seat time with the JO5
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jmain on December 02, 2008, 12:19:40 PM
Great looking bass!!  ;)  (See avatar for the RW/Tort/J-retro version

Dig the maple/ash.

IMHO, the JO has that jazz bass vibe covered, hands down.  The 55-02 is more versatile if you throw in the Musicman vibe.  Mine had the Barts that some say are more dark or polite.

Can't go wrong in the grand scheme of things with either.  I made a tough choice and sold my 55-02 and kept the JO5.  The JO5 can travel in any circle.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on December 02, 2008, 06:28:09 PM
Maybe it was the new Lakland electronics but I just could not get a pleasing amplified sound out of the 55-02. If it was the old Barts, it may have been a different story. I like the way he JO5 sounds acoustically and amplified. It also suits my playing style better. I couldn't find a good comfort zone on the 55-02. I like the JO5 passive. I'm also eyeballing a DJ5. I'm tired of buying batteries. If I want a pre I may just get an outboard pre.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on December 02, 2008, 06:29:26 PM
Great looking bass!!  ;)  (See avatar for the RW/Tort/J-retro version

Dig the maple/ash.

IMHO, the JO has that jazz bass vibe covered, hands down.  The 55-02 is more versatile if you throw in the Musicman vibe.  Mine had the Barts that some say are more dark or polite.

Can't go wrong in the grand scheme of things with either.  I made a tough choice and sold my 55-02 and kept the JO5.  The JO5 can travel in any circle.
Yours is nice too. But there will never be a tort pickguard on any of my basses........ever! Ewwww!
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: dhagler on December 02, 2008, 08:47:50 PM
Yours is nice too. But there will never be a tort pickguard on any of my basses........ever! Ewwww!

DW, what are you playing in your avatar?
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: jmain on December 02, 2008, 10:26:00 PM
Yours is nice too. But there will never be a tort pickguard on any of my basses........ever! Ewwww!

lol! The mint is right on the ash/maple, or maybe black.
Title: Re: Looking for a new bass
Post by: DWBass on December 03, 2008, 06:27:13 AM
DW, what are you playing in your avatar?
That is a (Gibson) Tobias Deluxe 5 which WAS my main go to bass. The Lakland has now taken over but I'll still use the Tobias when I play jazz.