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Main => Gospel Music Lounge => Topic started by: betnich on February 23, 2009, 02:21:55 PM
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Just saw MADEA GOES TO JAIL - was funny, but it had a lot of the Browns in it.
Cora I don't mind, I've seen her type of sweet church lady in real life, but I didn't like Mr. Brown. Yes, he's funny, but this character often comes across as ignorant and clueless, in that redneck Jim Varney way ("Hey, Vern!" for those who remember). I know Tyler Perry deals in stereotypes, but does this one go too far?
As a side note, I watched a little of MEET THE BROWNS during TBS' recent Tyler Perry marathon - the characters did not seem so cliched on TV. And I did wish they had gotten to sing in the movie...both actors have fine voices...
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Since he's just a character, I don't view him as representing anything real. I don't know anyone that he even reminds me of, so idk, I guess he just strikes me as totally ficticious.
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My friend wants to see it next week. I really not looking forward to it. :(
Lots of TV and Movie characters are ignorant and clueless. Would this have anything to do with Mr Brown being a Christian/Church Deacon?
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He was funny the first couple of times. I did enjoy the Meet The Browns stage play as Brown's eulogy was hilarious. But after that the clothes and his way of thinking got old real quick. I wouldn't say I'm uncomfortable because there are far worse portrayals of us in televison and film. But Black people made Mr. Brown, Madea, and all of those other characters popular through the continued support they continue to receive.
For every one person the criticizes Tyler Perry for his storylines and characters, there are three people that will defend him and watch and purchase every little thing he releases. I respect him as a businessman because he has done some amazing things and built a business empire. He constantly says that he will contiunue to bring these types of stories and characters as long as we support it. Can't get anymore blunt that that.
This thread brings up another topic I wanted to touch on. I just have to get my presentation together on it.
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Yes,Mr. Brown is a stereotypical character but it doesn't bother me. I think he's funny. However, my aunt doesn't like him because of the way he acts.
Basically every character on television ever portrayed is based on a stereotype especially in dealing with African Americans. We play the criminal, the drug abuser, or some type of sex-crazed individual, athlete, rapper etc. I would have to do some research but back in the day experts like Donald Bogle named the show "Franks Place" starring Tim Reid as a show that didn't portray Black folks in a stereotypical way.
On Good Times....the Evans family couldn't ever get out of the ghetto for one reason or another. Then, we had the Huxtables and people said the show wasn't realistic. Where is the happy medium? Until we get more control over our music, movies and television shows, it will continue.
It bothers me that there are no predominately African American dramas.
I can't fault Tyler because he's giving actors/actresses some work.
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I think the question would be how many people has one met that DIDN'T fall into a stereotype.
Someone told me that it was "red neck" of me to think about moving into an RV.
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It bothers me that there are no predominately African American dramas.
That takes me back to around 1995 when James Earl Jones was in an all-black drama called Under One Roof. It was an excellent show and I never missed it. Funny how it didn't even last more than a month, yet Black sitcoms can run for years and years and live on in sydication.
I can't fault Tyler because he's giving actors/actresses some work.
That is very true. Some people would never get any real or consistent opportunities if it wasn't for what he's making available.
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It bothers me that there are no predominately African American dramas.
Theres "Soul Food". I dont know if its on TV still, but its on dvd, and well worth the price
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I have no idea who Mr. Brown is. :-\
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Theres "Soul Food". I dont know if its on TV still, but its on dvd, and well worth the price
She meant on television, right now.
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Yes,Mr. Brown is a stereotypical character but it doesn't bother me. I think he's funny. However, my aunt doesn't like him because of the way he acts...
I'm not sure if I'd classify Mr. Brown as stereotype. I mean...how many people do you actually meet or know that's like Mr. Brown. We may have at least one uncle somewhere in our family like that or maybe someone at your church (and they normally stand out)but not enough to call it a stereotype.
...Yes, he's funny, but this character often comes across as ignorant and clueless, in that redneck Jim Varney way ("Hey, Vern!" for those who remember)...
Most of the sitcoms that I can think of always had someone in the cast who acted dumb or clueless: i.e., Will & Grace it was Jack; Seinfeld it was Kramer, Martin it was Cole; Jamie Foxx it was Braxton; Fresh Prince it was Carlton...the list goes on.
Sometimes the dumb one will be the star like Mr. Brown
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Lots of TV and Movie characters are ignorant and clueless. Would this have anything to do with Mr Brown being a Christian/Church Deacon?
Perhaps - I felt embarrassed when Mr. Brown insisted that the driver of the car close his eyes in prayer while they were going down the road - something that character also did in MEET THE BROWNS. The first time it was marginally funny, but this time felt overplayed.
And something I noticed more in this latest movie - Brown mispronouncing words and generally pretending he knew more than he did...that reminded me of old episodes of Amos 'n Andy...
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He was funny the first couple of times. I did enjoy the Meet The Browns stage play as Brown's eulogy was hilarious. But after that the clothes and his way of thinking got old real quick. I wouldn't say I'm uncomfortable because there are far worse portrayals of us in televison and film. But Black people made Mr. Brown, Madea, and all of those other characters popular through the continued support they continue to receive.
For every one person the criticizes Tyler Perry for his storylines and characters, there are three people that will defend him and watch and purchase every little thing he releases. I respect him as a businessman because he has done some amazing things and built a business empire. He constantly says that he will contiunue to bring these types of stories and characters as long as we support it. Can't get anymore blunt that that.
Now I dont have to say anything. 100% agree. This is why Im not feeling the sitcom.
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I'm not a big fan of "Meet The Browns". But I think Brown is funny "with" Madea in the movies and plays. As for it going to far on be stereotypical....I don't think so.
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I'm not a big fan of "Meet The Browns". But I think Brown is funny "with" Madea in the movies and plays...
I think so also. The way Madea and Mr. Brown act together is different than Mr. Brown with other actors. Also in TP's plays, there seems to be a lot of unscripted off-the-cuff stuff that makes them even more hilarious.
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I think so also. The way Madea and Mr. Brown act together is different than Mr. Brown with other actors. Also in TP's plays, there seems to be a lot of unscripted off-the-cuff stuff that makes them even more hilarious.
That's what it is! It's makes the difference.
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I think so also. The way Madea and Mr. Brown act together is different than Mr. Brown with other actors. Also in TP's plays, there seems to be a lot of unscripted off-the-cuff stuff that makes them even more hilarious.
It's hard to do 'off the cuff' to a laugh track. ::) :-\
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I think Mr. Brown is hilarious. He is a fresh departation from anything that I consider reality which is why he is so funny. The way he talks and those clothes...man, he could just walk across the screen and I'd get a good chuckle.
I have to say, however, the Madea goes to Jail was very, very bad to me. To talk about it would give away the movie to those who haven't gone to see it. Most of Tyler's stage plays don't transfer weel to the big screen to me. His best movie to me so far is The Family that Preys which, if I am right, wasn't originally a stage play.
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I don't find anything stereotypical about Mr. Brown, He is a bit exaggerated, but not stereotypical... Mr. Brown is simply a comical character who is meant to make us laugh and nothing more... what makes him funny is that his character is both exaggerated and largely improvised... if he were more realistic he wouldn't be half as popular
Besides, stereotypes can be funny as long as they are not degrading
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...in TP's plays, there seems to be a lot of unscripted off-the-cuff stuff that makes them even more hilarious.
I guess that's what I missed in the movie...some comedians like Jim Carrey do multiple takes to get their improvisations onscreen...
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I think Mr. Brown is hilarious. He is a fresh departation from anything that I consider reality which is why he is so funny. The way he talks and those clothes...man, he could just walk across the screen and I'd get a good chuckle.
I have to say, however, the Madea goes to Jail was very, very bad to me. To talk about it would give away the movie to those who haven't gone to see it. Most of Tyler's stage plays don't transfer weel to the big screen to me. His best movie to me so far is The Family that Preys which, if I am right, wasn't originally a stage play.
I agree.
When you've seen the plays, it's hard for it to be as good when watching it on screen. Things don't come across the same. Plus you're missing crucial people that help "make" the scenes in the plays. I like the movies but I always go back to the plays. The plays are so funny. Like "The Diary of a Mad Black Woman"....it was ok, it could have been better. I don't think she was as mad as a black women really could have gotten....that's all I got to say about that, LOL!
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I think he's funny. I would say I have this view primarily because one of the things he's known for is messing up words, and my dad does this all the time! So when I see Mr. Brown, parts of his character remind me of my dad.
However, I have friends though who think that Mr. Brown's humor gets tiring after a while. Like, it's the same thing over and over again.
I see that, but I still think he's funny. I actually like him more than Madea.
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I'm not uncomfortable with Mr.Brown's character. I find him to be hilarious. Hooooowever, his character does become annoying at times. And as long as folks are supporting Tyler, Mr.Brown aint goin' no where! LOL :P
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I'm not uncomfortable with the character, it's just that well, he gets a little predictable. I mean, the toupee schtick, the loud clothes, tight pants, shouting at a step show, lol, well, that shouting at the step show bit was kind of funny. I'm ok with Brown in moderation. I even bought that "Church with Mr. Brown" CD, good singing by David Mann, along with some funny tracks. Though I haven't listened to it in a while. I bought it for my dad and it's been absorbed into his vast CD collection, perhaps never to see the light of day again, lol.
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Sometimes I get the feeling that "we" can be a bit sensitive about certain things. I don't really get into Tyler Perry's shows but somebody is spending money on them and he seems to have no problems getting ad sponsors.
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Sometimes I get the feeling that "we" can be a bit sensitive about certain things. I don't really get into Tyler Perry's shows but somebody is spending money on them and he seems to have no problems getting ad sponsors.
I dont really care for him either. But "Daddy's Little Girls" was very good, though I'm pretty sure I read that exact story in a book a while back
He made $125,000,000 last year, so I doubt he's gonna change anything even if a few are uncomfortable. lol
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He made $125,000,000 last year, so I doubt he's gonna change anything even if a few are uncomfortable. lol
As a business man, I applaud him. He has his own movie studio so he is in a position to help out up and coming filmmakers that wouldn't normally get a foot in the door.