if she'll have to do that POST-surgery, why can't she do it now???
Ok, so I know weight is always a sensitive subject, so I'm going to approach this as carefully as a tactless, NYer can. LOL. If anything goes wrong, it's Wolfie's fault for bringing it up in the first place. :-\ :P ;D
My SIL called me and a family friend over about a month ago to tell us that she was seriously considering having "the surgery" (as it's commonly called), and wanted to know what we thought. Both of us were opposed to it, and she, being diabetic and well over 350 lbs. just didn't understand why. Personally, I really just don't get it. I know so many people (about 15-20) who have had the surgery, and all of them report having to make DRASTIC lifestyle changes. You have to eat differently, you have to exercise, they recommend you do a support group, etc... so, if she'll have to do that POST-surgery, why can't she do it now??? I just don't get it. She NEVER wants to exercise and she eats like a pig (some of it is emotional eating). Plus, many of the folks I know who've done it, she also knows. Many had great success, and a few did not. :-[ If I were mean, I could show two FB profiles of acquaintances we know that ended up looking really bad after all their weight loss. I asked my SIL, what would she do if her body ended up all jacked up and she had no answer.
I know we've discussed plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures from a Christian perspective, but what are the thoughts on the saints doing stuff like this to their temples?
The last thing I need is for her or anyone else to say so causally, "It's so lazy when people have surgery to lose weight. Why not just diet and exercise. Then if you diet and exercise you get mean comment until you start to show obvious weight loss...then more mean comments in hopes to motivate you to keep going like "She lost weight but she's still fat, ugh". But hey, what can we expect in a world that doesn't know nor care that successful weight loss requires a positive mentality and pumping all that negativity into a person is defeating the purpose...whatever.
Another thing to consider is the post surgical complications. I have done patients who have had the "Surgery" and have had issues with bowel obstructions, leaks, etc. I lean more towards diet control and exercise in all but the most severe cases (the 900 lb guy in Mexico).Yeah, and those complications are another serious consideration... you have to decide whether you're willing to live with that.
Anyway, I'm doing P90X. I bind the bad weight loss and cast it away with the help of God and Tony Horton. ;)
So is it really working? Most of those people were already cut when they were cast for the commercial as with most. I wanna see a big man and a big woman using the product since that is honestly the target audience. Not some chick that's already in shape.
man, that hits a sore spot for me, My good friend and music partner had that done, right when we were finishing his album. We did the last vocal tracking to complete the album, he went in, had the procedure, was in recovery for a week, then died the following week.
still mad about that. we did alotta work only for it to go *poof*.
>:( :'(
I know a few people who have died behind that surgery. I also know a few who have had major success and then a few who have struggled with it. So, my experiences run the gambit.
Its a spiritual matter, T. If the Lord called you to be a preacher and you're so fat that you st?rt huffing and puffing 5 minutes into the sermon, what use are you?
:D
That's when you sit yo but down and preach from the chair, lol. I've seen preachers do just that. ;) :D
It's spiritual because our bodies are our temples - the temple in which the Holy Ghost resides (for those of us that are filled). It is so unfortunate that our churches don't teach or emphasize the spiritual significance of physical health. I can only imagine that it must be a slap in God's face for Him to have taken such great care to design our bodies so wondrously, so amazingly, in such perfect detail - only to have us treat it like crap... filling it up with all kinds of junk - as opposed to the manna he provided for us, decorating it with all kinds of holes and tattoos, altering it with surgeries... I'm not God, so I dunno. Maybe it doesn't bother Him at all. *shrug* I would think it would, though.
Also, failing to take proper care of our bodies usually indicates that there are some areas of our character that need to be sharpened, and probably a rotten fruit or two. Self-control, temperance, moderation, patience, self-denial, respect... these are all principles the Bible teaches, and they are all principles that go right out the window when we eat what we want, as opposed to what our bodies need. And for the record, this DOES NOT APPLY ONLY to overweight people. There are plenty of people like me who are thin and grossly unhealthy. Size 2 but never eating vegetables. 125 lbs but never drinking water or taking vitamins. Never exercising. Never getting enough sleep. Never eating fruits or balanced meals. Skipping meals... It's a shame that churches produce Christians that don't even care about their bodies or consider it NOT a spiritual matter.
*stepping off soap box*
It's spiritual because our bodies are our temples - the temple in which the Holy Ghost resides (for those of us that are filled). It is so unfortunate that our churches don't teach or emphasize the spiritual significance of physical health. I can only imagine that it must be a slap in God's face for Him to have taken such great care to design our bodies so wondrously, so amazingly, in such perfect detail - only to have us treat it like crap... filling it up with all kinds of junk - as opposed to the manna he provided for us, decorating it with all kinds of holes and tattoos, altering it with surgeries... I'm not God, so I dunno. Maybe it doesn't bother Him at all. *shrug* I would think it would, though.
Also, failing to take proper care of our bodies usually indicates that there are some areas of our character that need to be sharpened, and probably a rotten fruit or two. Self-control, temperance, moderation, patience, self-denial, respect... these are all principles the Bible teaches, and they are all principles that go right out the window when we eat what we want, as opposed to what our bodies need. And for the record, this DOES NOT APPLY ONLY to overweight people. There are plenty of people like me who are thin and grossly unhealthy. Size 2 but never eating vegetables. 125 lbs but never drinking water or taking vitamins. Never exercising. Never getting enough sleep. Never eating fruits or balanced meals. Skipping meals... It's a shame that churches produce Christians that don't even care about their bodies or consider it NOT a spiritual matter.
*stepping off soap box*
It's spiritual because our bodies are our temples - the temple in which the Holy Ghost resides (for those of us that are filled). It is so unfortunate that our churches don't teach or emphasize the spiritual significance of physical health. I can only imagine that it must be a slap in God's face for Him to have taken such great care to design our bodies so wondrously, so amazingly, in such perfect detail - only to have us treat it like crap... filling it up with all kinds of junk - as opposed to the manna he provided for us, decorating it with all kinds of holes and tattoos, altering it with surgeries... I'm not God, so I dunno. Maybe it doesn't bother Him at all. *shrug* I would think it would, though.
Also, failing to take proper care of our bodies usually indicates that there are some areas of our character that need to be sharpened, and probably a rotten fruit or two. Self-control, temperance, moderation, patience, self-denial, respect... these are all principles the Bible teaches, and they are all principles that go right out the window when we eat what we want, as opposed to what our bodies need. And for the record, this DOES NOT APPLY ONLY to overweight people. There are plenty of people like me who are thin and grossly unhealthy. Size 2 but never eating vegetables. 125 lbs but never drinking water or taking vitamins. Never exercising. Never getting enough sleep. Never eating fruits or balanced meals. Skipping meals... It's a shame that churches produce Christians that don't even care about their bodies or consider it NOT a spiritual matter.
*stepping off soap box*
You can have it twice. My friend's mom has done it. The second time almost killed her.
There are plenty of people like me who are thin and grossly unhealthy. Size 2 but never eating vegetables. 125 lbs but never drinking water or taking vitamins. Never exercising. Never getting enough sleep. Never eating fruits or balanced meals.
*stepping off soap box*
What happened to you working out and stuff?
What happened to you working out and stuff?