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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Keyboard / Piano => Topic started by: under13 on May 11, 2009, 01:46:44 PM
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Have any of you ever encountered a WACK musician? Now I'm not talking about people with low skill levels, I'm talking about people who can play, but choose to do dumb things during service.
Why do the drummers have to piddle paddle loudly on the set during prayer or other unessassary (sp) times?
Why do keyboard players have to play ring tones or Popular songs during service?
WHY!!
I guess yall can share your experiences with your encounters with musicians who are Wack, corny, etc. :D
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Why do the drummers have to piddle paddle loudly on the set during prayer or other unessassary (sp) times?
LOL! My brother does that from time to time, but not on the set, on his knees...it's not loud to where the congregation can hear, but it is loud enough to get on my nerves :D...
...I can't be too mad at him because he doesn't realize that he's doing it most of the time...He'll stop and apologize when he sees my "Boy, what are you doin?!" look :D
...He loves to drum so no matter where he goes, he brings his stick bag...his coworkers told me that he's practicing durin lunchbreak...
...if he's on the passenger side, he'll practice on whatever song is playing in the car at the time...
Why do keyboard players have to play ring tones or Popular songs during service?
There was this one church that I went to in Washington State and I used to get on this guy all the time about that mess...actin like there's not at least one person that knew what song he's playing...
...he would usually play it during offering and some of the older folks what down the aisle jammin, while some teenagers laughin...but there was one of the mothers of the church that was still keepin up with the younger generation and smashed on him real quick... :D
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I think it's real janky for someone who has not been to practice... ain't EVEN on the PW team... grab a mic from the side... move it next to the group, and start singing.... (Yes, this has happened on a Sunday...AND it happened at that same church in Washington State)
Dude....WHO DOES THAT?!!! :o :o :o
I have it on tape...and now I can look back on it, smh and lol...never seen that before in my life...My mom's reaction was also caught on tape and it had me slain! lol
Really...WHO DOES THAT?!
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Why do keyboard players have to play ring tones or Popular songs during service?
I have done that outside of church at a venue where it was appropriate. I will say it annoys me when drummers will hit anything with their sticks i.e. a B3 or piano. Ummmm Hello, if it isn't a drum head or practice pad, then leave it be. ::)
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I have done that outside of church at a venue where it was appropriate. I will say it annoys me when drummers will hit anything with their sticks i.e. a B3 or piano. Ummmm Hello, if it isn't a drum head or practice pad, then leave it be. ::)
My friend's son used to drum on my dashboard... UGH!!!
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The funniest story I have is I was at this church for a program. Our church was supposed to be in charge of the service, but they church opened up with a song or something. Anyways, I wanted to jump in and help the guy that was playing keys. So, I asked him what key was he in? His reply: +3
I bout died after that from laughing so hard. :D
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Aight, so we're in a high worship moment. My FL is flowin' in the spirit, I'm on the keys, my pastor even sings a little bit. My pastor starts to pray.
This dude (who's on our P&W team but struggles with the gift of singing) took off his jacket, made his way towards the drums.
I see him and I'm thinkin', 'Oh boy; but, I'll try to coax him through it.' ::) :-\
Why did my pastor tell the brotha, 'Nah, brotha.' Now, I can't see this (as it's happening behind me) but I could hear my pastor in his mic.
Yo' man, lookin' like a small boy, put his jacket back on and went back to 'ushering'.
I almost lost it. :D :D :D :D :D
Why do folks find it necessary to do extra during moments like that? ?/? :-\
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The funniest story I have is I was at this church for a program. Our church was supposed to be in charge of the service, but they church opened up with a song or something. Anyways, I wanted to jump in and help the guy that was playing keys. So, I asked him what key was he in? His reply: +3
I bout died after that from laughing so hard. :D
Why? ?/?
You should've known that's Eb, yo' favorite key. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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The funniest story I have is I was at this church for a program. Our church was supposed to be in charge of the service, but they church opened up with a song or something. Anyways, I wanted to jump in and help the guy that was playing keys. So, I asked him what key was he in? His reply: +3
I bout died after that from laughing so hard. :D
LOL!!! I wish there was an alarm that rung every time the transpose button was used!
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One time somebody bought my pastor a ring as a gift and while they were presenting it to pastor the keyboard player started playing that beyonce song, "single ladies".The worst part was that he didn't know the song so he was figuring it out as he was playing. I was thinking to myself if you gon do something like that at least play it right.
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The funniest story I have is I was at this church for a program. Our church was supposed to be in charge of the service, but they church opened up with a song or something. Anyways, I wanted to jump in and help the guy that was playing keys. So, I asked him what key was he in? His reply: +3
I bout died after that from laughing so hard. :D
That actually happens frequently when I play with older cats in the jazz genre. Most of the dudes that do that normally just point up and give the number(of sharps) or point down and give the number(of flats)
Aight, so we're in a high worship moment. My FL is flowin' in the spirit, I'm on the keys, my pastor even sings a little bit. My pastor starts to pray.
This dude (who's on our P&W team but struggles with the gift of singing) took off his jacket, made his way towards the drums.
I see him and I'm thinkin', 'Oh boy; but, I'll try to coax him through it.' ::) :-\
Why did my pastor tell the brotha, 'Nah, brotha.' Now, I can't see this (as it's happening behind me) but I could hear my pastor in his mic.
Yo' man, lookin' like a small boy, put his jacket back on and went back to 'ushering'.
I almost lost it. :D :D :D :D :D
Why do folks find it necessary to do extra during moments like that? ?/? :-\
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LOL!!!
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That actually happens frequently when I play with older cats in the jazz genre. Most of the dudes that do that normally just point up and give the number(of sharps) or point down and give the number(of flats)
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I think you gave the first plausible reason for that, since the first time I heard him mention the incident.
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Why do keyboard players have to play ring tones or Popular songs during service?
What? You never had a cell phone go off in service?
:D
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What? You never had a cell phone go off in service?
:D
That happened this past Sunday....twice. >:( ::)
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What? You never had a cell phone go off in service?
:D
lol, After I heard this musician play it I spent like 2 days trying to figure out where I've heard this tune
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I have a keyboardist at my church who uses a cheesy slap bass sound on his keyboard(Korg Trinity) and plays it like its a piano. He doesn't split it bass/piano, he just uses the bass all across the keys, and it GETS ON MY NERVES! He be playin' them "old-timey" chords and that makes it worse... Seeing that he is the district M.O.M. and he's in charge (even though I am the main musician), I can do nothing but grit my teeth every time he plays. Every now and then, he'll use a synth sound, but he plays it the exact same way!
I mean, I have great respect for him, but since he joined the church, I feel like the quality of our music dropped 30%. He has really good sounds on the Trinity, so why does he insist on using that cheesy bass?
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The funniest story I have is I was at this church for a program. Our church was supposed to be in charge of the service, but they church opened up with a song or something. Anyways, I wanted to jump in and help the guy that was playing keys. So, I asked him what key was he in? His reply: +3
I bout died after that from laughing so hard. :D
THAT'S funny!!!!!!!
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The funniest story I have is I was at this church for a program. Our church was supposed to be in charge of the service, but they church opened up with a song or something. Anyways, I wanted to jump in and help the guy that was playing keys. So, I asked him what key was he in? His reply: +3
I bout died after that from laughing so hard. :D
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why? ?/?
You should've known that's Eb, yo' favorite key. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
The problem is +3 doesn't really tell u much. It could be +3 from anything. Besides, I knew he was talking about Eb only because I know him. Most people in my area only play in C. I just didn't expect dude to actually holler out +3 like it was normal talk.
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The problem is +3 doesn't really tell u much. It could be +3 from anything. Besides, I knew he was talking about Eb only because I know him. Most people in my area only play in C. I just didn't expect dude to actually holler out +3 like it was normal talk.
:D :D :D :D :D
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:D :D :D :D :D
^^^^^^ indeed
LOL I was just thinking about this time my church went out to another church, right. I know the keyboard player and he has this way of trying to wait until I look off to hit the transpose button. Its so funny! He hasn't known until I blasted him that day.
Anyway, his choir got up to sing, right, and I looked off on purpose so he would hit the transpose key. Apparently he hit the wrong button, and started getting some fuzzy feedback out of his amp. He had to reset everything! By this time his choir had started to sing and hes was finding the key. his choir director started staring at him with that "What are you doing, we don't pay you to sit there!" look (trust me, thats exactly what it looked like :D).
Anyway, I see him glancing over at me out the corner of his eye, right, so I turn to him and say, loudly"Its ok, man, do what you gotta do. You gon' end up gettin yo pay docked worryin' 'bout me!"
It looked like it pained him to touch the transpose button with me watching. :D :D :D
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It looked like it pained him to touch the transpose button with me watching. :D :D :D
You should have just looked away out of pity. :D :D :D
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^^^^^^ indeed
It looked like it pained him to touch the transpose button with me watching. :D :D :D
Sounds like a 3 year old :D
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Sounds like a 3 year old :D
Indeed.
If you're going to use it, be bold with it.
Get a shirt that says "I transpose"!
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^^^^^^ indeed
LOL I was just thinking about this time my church went out to another church, right. I know the keyboard player and he has this way of trying to wait until I look off to hit the transpose button. Its so funny! He hasn't known until I blasted him that day.
Anyway, his choir got up to sing, right, and I looked off on purpose so he would hit the transpose key. Apparently he hit the wrong button, and started getting some fuzzy feedback out of his amp. He had to reset everything! By this time his choir had started to sing and hes was finding the key. his choir director started staring at him with that "What are you doing, we don't pay you to sit there!" look (trust me, thats exactly what it looked like :D).
Anyway, I see him glancing over at me out the corner of his eye, right, so I turn to him and say, loudly"Its ok, man, do what you gotta do. You gon' end up gettin yo pay docked worryin' 'bout me!"
It looked like it pained him to touch the transpose button with me watching. :D :D :D
:D :D :D :D Needed. that. :D :D :D :D
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It looked like it pained him to touch the transpose button with me watching. :D :D :D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That's what happens when u do wrong, u hate getting caught so u try to sneak and do it.
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Indeed.
If you're going to use it, be bold with it.
Get a shirt that says "I transpose"!
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z99/hardheaded409/Untitled-1.jpg)
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I play in the key of C, but right now, it's plus three.
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LOL!!! :D I can see someone wearing that shirt and instead of raising their fist...they are holding 3 fingers in the air... :D :D :D
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Yall go 2 far wit da comedy, SMH. :D
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Ok ok Last night at musician" practice, this same cat came by. He got on the keyboard and I got on the MOTIF(lol its like a whole nutha instrument 8)). We were playing Trading my Sorrows by Israel. In Eb(+3 :D actually +2, he only plays in Db) So we were playing, right, then we came to the key change to E, and he says, "Lets stay in the same key, bruh". LOL My bass player and I go up, and he's left in the "dust".
He has this mad expression on his face like I abandoned him or something. We stop playing and he says, "Man, you gotta learn how to listen!" I say, playfully, "Man, you gotta learn how to play!"
Anyway, he starts playing some cool groove. I ask him how he did it. He tells me the notes(not chords, but notes), in Db. So I start playing it, and it sounds nothing like what he is playing.
My bass player gets the same notes as me and he has his "WTH" (heck) look on his face.
He gets mad, walks over to that keyboard, and resets the transpose! :D :D I died laughing!
Just goes to show the hinderance of transposing. ;)
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So we were playing, right, then we came to the key change to E, and he says, "Lets stay in the same key, bruh". LOL My bass player and I go up, and he's left in the "dust".
He has this mad expression on his face like I abandoned him or something. We stop playing and he says, "Man, you gotta learn how to listen!" I say, playfully, "Man, you gotta learn how to play!"
Is this guy a part of yall's music band at church? If not, he was very bold (and a little stupid) in trying to get yall not to do what yall normally do just cuz he can't play in E.
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Ok ok Last night at musician" practice, this same cat came by. He got on the keyboard and I got on the MOTIF(lol its like a whole nutha instrument 8)). We were playing Trading my Sorrows by Israel. In Eb(+3 :D actually +2, he only plays in Db) So we were playing, right, then we came to the key change to E, and he says, "Lets stay in the same key, bruh". LOL My bass player and I go up, and he's left in the "dust".
He has this mad expression on his face like I abandoned him or something. We stop playing and he says, "Man, you gotta learn how to listen!" I say, playfully, "Man, you gotta learn how to play!"
Anyway, he starts playing some cool groove. I ask him how he did it. He tells me the notes(not chords, but notes), in Db. So I start playing it, and it sounds nothing like what he is playing.
My bass player gets the same notes as me and he has his "WTH" (heck) look on his face.
He gets mad, walks over to that keyboard, and resets the transpose! :D :D I died laughing!
Just goes to show the hinderance of transposing. ;)
Funniest story EVAR!!!! :D :D :D
How embarrassing for him.
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Is this guy a part of yall's music band at church? If not, he was very bold (and a little stupid) in trying to get yall not to do what yall normally do just cuz he can't play in E.
Naw, man. He's just a good friend of mine who plays at a neighboring church. lol It was pretty bold of him to come into a "non-transposing" environment and "transpose". I guess key changes are the devil to transposers. :D
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^^^^^^ indeed
LOL I was just thinking about this time my church went out to another church, right. I know the keyboard player and he has this way of trying to wait until I look off to hit the transpose button. Its so funny! He hasn't known until I blasted him that day.
Anyway, his choir got up to sing, right, and I looked off on purpose so he would hit the transpose key. Apparently he hit the wrong button, and started getting some fuzzy feedback out of his amp. He had to reset everything! By this time his choir had started to sing and hes was finding the key. his choir director started staring at him with that "What are you doing, we don't pay you to sit there!" look (trust me, thats exactly what it looked like :D).
Anyway, I see him glancing over at me out the corner of his eye, right, so I turn to him and say, loudly"Its ok, man, do what you gotta do. You gon' end up gettin yo pay docked worryin' 'bout me!"
It looked like it pained him to touch the transpose button with me watching. :D :D :D
WOW... THAT'S CRAZY.
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wack musicians are cats who ONLY play shout music. "lets jam after church" means "lets play shout music". "start up a slow/fast/any tempo groove" means "start playing shout music". we need to practice this song means "lets run through it once and go straight into shout music"
genius is 10% inspiration and 90% shout music. lol.
i mean seriously, do you actually think you get better at your craft ONLY practicing shout music? im doubting it seeing as the people who do just that cant keep timing on any other song/groove, dont know how to build and release tension in songs (or that such a concept even exists), and dont know what they're playing nor why.
i was on keys, practicing my worship stuff, waiting for a service to start and this dude asks me "you play keys too" (because i was on bass earlier during the rehearsal before) and i reply "im just starting out" and he says that i sound like i been playing for a while and he gets on the organ and looks to see what im playing and i was gonna show him what i was playing (he was a drummer learning organ) but as soon as this other guy got on the drums, they bust out into shout music. i got up and walked out. i was humble enough to NOT say "thats why i sound like i been playing for a while...because i practice more than just shout music". didnt wanna hurt the guys feelings.
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I know some cats who can't play shout music at all. :o
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I know some cats who can't play shout music at all. :o
I can barely play it myself. We rarely shout.
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I know some cats who can't play shout music at all. :o
It's not my forte. On the rare occasion someone does shout, we just play it by ear and go with the flow. It always works out.
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where are those guys??!!!! lol. i think it might be a young musician mentality because all of them are much younger than me, like in the 16-23 age range. Most of the older people i know that play are either playing here,there,and everywhere or are married and have families so the free time to jam with them is practically non-existent. (Its either that or they'd rather jam with people with better skills than mine.)
so maybe my experience is skewed to one side, but that doesnt change things at all. all they wanna play is shout music.
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where are those guys??!!!! lol. i think it might be a young musician mentality because all of them are much younger than me, like in the 16-23 age range. Most of the older people i know that play are either playing here,there,and everywhere or are married and have families so the free time to jam with them is practically non-existent. (Its either that or they'd rather jam with people with better skills than mine.)
so maybe my experience is skewed to one side, but that doesnt change things at all. all they wanna play is shout music.
Sweet!
I was one of those that played shout music all the time. Hey! It helped me improve my foot coordination! Too bad I lost it, when I stopped playing for five years.
I got back on a REAL organ a couple months ago and was embarrassed, because my foot felt crippled. I went to playing bass with my left hand, and--for me--that felt like transposing. I couldn't do it for long, eventually I just let my foot mess up. People were looking at me like, Dude! Stop playing! A couple dudes were even laughing! It was all good, once I got back on the keyboard. Plus, I've been playing with a bass player for the past seven years.
It's ironic though, I used to suck on the keyboard. Now, it has reversed.
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dont get me wrong, its ok to practice sometimes. i do as well, but not ALL the time. especially to the point where other necessary skills go lacking and underdeveloped.
It helped me improve my foot coordination!
How much help is a coordinated foot when you cant play anything in time? Or when you dont know how to use your chord changes to move along a song? Or when you really cant play much of anything other than shout music?
it reminds you of the kid in the park that said he wanted to be good at basketball but only practiced fancy dribbling. and as long as he cutting past people you cant tell him NOTHIN...until its time to take a shot. wah wah waaaah!! lol
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Hmm...How good is it to play a song, if you can't play the notes correctly? ;)
Playing shout music DID help me learn to walk my foot. I did play other songs though. I just like shouts and congregational songs the most. I still do, actually! ;D ;D