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Title: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: T-Block on June 09, 2009, 04:19:15 AM
There's something that I want to ask all you out there who request chords regularly. I've only done it 2 times and I know what was running through my head when I asked. Here's my question:

When yall post the question "I need help" or "I need some assistance with ___ song," what is your definition of help?

I'm just curious that's all. I would appreciate some honest answers.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: 1stLady on June 09, 2009, 08:17:41 AM
When i post a request for song chords, 98% of the time, it's because I am either having a really hard time hearing the keyboard in the song, due to a lot of other instruments, or it is just a hard song for me to learn! The other 2% would be due to lack of time to try to learn it on my own.
I can honestly say I have never requested a post just because I didn't feel like taking the time to learn it on my own. Unfortunately, T-Block, I think there are a lot of musicians on here that do just that, but, from personal experience, you can't learn anything that way.
God Bless
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: rayjohnson83 on June 09, 2009, 08:47:08 AM
I think there are a lot of musicians on here that do just that, but, from personal experience, you can't learn anything that way.
God Bless
SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: Mrandrew on June 09, 2009, 08:59:58 AM
For me I can honestly say I have asked for help on a few songs and this was in the beginning as I was just starting to understand. Later if I asked for assistance I started to post want I had to show I was not taking as easy way out.

I can agree that some are not willing to put in the time and effort to learn, but it's the only way to get better.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: dereknae on June 09, 2009, 09:08:08 AM
I don't ask for chorded song because my ear is pretty strong as I have no problem learning them..But,I do ask a person say,if they're playing a 736 and it's different from the 736's I know,I'll ask what's their voicing
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: themidiroom on June 09, 2009, 09:22:01 AM
I even get emails from random folks asking for chords to songs.  They will say something like; "I need chords for this song that I have to play on Sunday." Hey, I don't like figuring out songs for myself let alone doing it when the person doesn't appear to have taken the time to try learning a song.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: cordney on June 09, 2009, 09:57:54 AM
T-Block, are you talking about me...I only did it once!  I'm not a board player. J/K!!!!

Can I get the chords to *insert song here*
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: berbie on June 09, 2009, 10:27:45 AM
I have used chords posted on this site many times but I have only asked for chords on two or three occasions.  I simply took/take advantage of the chords that were posted at other's requests.   Or I use search or Earnest and Roline. I can usually play a song after a fashion by listeneng to the CD.

I have always been satisfied with the way that the chords were posted.  If I am asked to comment on the matter though, I would say that It might be helpful to have the chord name next to the chord in the posting.

Since then I don't request chords regularly I might not be the desired respondant, but the only reason that I would request chords would be that I couldn't figure it out at all myself and couldn't find them already posted.

I would consider help to be the chords posted as they are posted now.

berbie 
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: jermaine19 on June 09, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
When I request help then I am in desperate need. That meaning that Itried it my way and it isn't working. I rarely like to ask for any assistance. I am thankful that I have requested a couple of songs on here and I have gotten assistance too.  I try to limit my questioning. Also, I like to rely on God most times that he will show me how to play better. It is ultimately about God. Not me. This is just my input to the question.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: T-Block on June 09, 2009, 01:04:11 PM
Interesting answers. I know there are some more of you chord requesters out there. Keep the answers coming!!! :D
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: musiqisme26 on June 09, 2009, 01:17:28 PM
not to sound boastful but i can play so usually when if i request chords its either 1 or 2 reasons

#1 I cant hear an unfamiliar pattern and i dont let pride hold me up so i will ask

#2 i dont like the way i play a song or become bored with so i kinda wanna see how someone else would approach it
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: betnich on June 09, 2009, 01:20:08 PM
I guess the most respectful request would be "I tried to chord this song, but need some input" along with the words/notes they have already figured out.


The LEAST respectful? Something like...

"Help, I need this song (Gospel playa's "____" version, with Choir parts, fancy changes+runs) chorded out for me w/pedals/LH/RH on the Organ in the key of 'X' NOW 'cause I gotta play it TOMORROW..."

{without searching the Net or LGM boards to see if someone has already done it}

:P
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: floaded27 on June 09, 2009, 01:32:16 PM
t-block, can you give me the chords to what i hear in my head right now. lol. just messin with u.

i read and take in whats posted, but i tend not to ask for anything because people post notes instead of chord types and its actually more frustrating trying to learn to play a song at a skill level that you arent at because thats the way someone else plays.

If a chord is a Cmin9, it would be easier for me to be told its a Cmin9 (so i can voice that chord how im able to) than be given a list of notes that puts like 3 notes in the left hand and stretching 2 octaves in the right hand because thats a sweet voicing that someone uses but i cant even do that, let alone do it in the middle of the song and in time.

i actually save time putting my ear to work and trying to figure out what i can, than wait for a post (if someone even responds) and translate that into something i can use.

tblock your last few posts i read giving chords provided the chord names, and having that opened up some things in my playing tremendously
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: betnich on June 09, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
i read and take in whats posted, but i tend not to ask for anything because people post notes instead of chord types and its actually more frustrating trying to learn to play a song at a skill level that you arent at because thats the way someone else plays.

If a chord is a Cmin9, it would be easier for me to be told its a Cmin9 (so i can voice that chord how im able to) than be given a list of notes that puts like 3 notes in the left hand and stretching 2 octaves in the right hand because thats a sweet voicing that someone uses but i cant even do that, let alone do it in the middle of the song and in time.

i actually save time putting my ear to work and trying to figure out what i can, than wait for a post (if someone even responds) and translate that into something i can use.

tblock your last few posts i read giving chords provided the chord names, and having that opened up some things in my playing tremendously


That's true - guitarists/bassists want chord symbols, while many keyboard players ask for RH/LH voicingd...
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: Incognegro on June 09, 2009, 02:46:14 PM
I don't know if I've ever asked for chords.  Even in the beginning.

If you want to learn a song and you have iTunes, buy it (it's only 99 cents) and spam pause, rewind, and play.

There are VERY few songs you can't figure out like that.

Gospel isn't as complicated as Jazz.  Even if you have to figure it out one chord at a time, there's a sense of accomplishment you get on Sunday Morning, knowing that you worked it out for yourself.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: T-Block on June 09, 2009, 02:52:33 PM
tblock your last few posts i read giving chords provided the chord names, and having that opened up some things in my playing tremendously

Ur welcome man. When I first started posting chords, it was notes only. Then, once I realized that learning songs that way doesn't really help, I started doing a chord symbol version. For the most part, I don't even need the chord symobls. All I need is the bass notes and I can learn any song.

Even if you have to figure it out one chord at a time, there's a sense of accomplishment you get on Sunday Morning, knowing that you worked it out for yourself.

I like that and agree with the sentiments. It does make u feel good when u work hard and reap the benefits of your hard work.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: Incognegro on June 09, 2009, 03:03:20 PM
Ur welcome man. When I first started posting chords, it was notes only. Then, once I realized that learning songs that way doesn't really help, I started doing a chord symbol version. For the most part, I don't even need the chord symobls. All I need is the bass notes and I can learn any song.

I like that and agree with the sentiments. It does make u feel good when u work hard and reap the benefits of your hard work.

AND, as you said, you learn faster that way.

When you work a song out yourself you "own" it.  You understand it.

Over time you'll be listening to someone play and say "Ah, ok.  I know what that was."
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: T-Block on June 09, 2009, 03:05:35 PM
AND, as you said, you learn faster that way.

When you work a song out yourself you "own" it.  You understand it.

Over time you'll be listening to someone play and say "Ah, ok.  I know what that was."

So true, especially that last part. Whenever I'm learning a song, I start with what I heard that's familiar.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: godservant on June 14, 2009, 05:01:57 PM
I request chords because I am a beginner keyboard player and I have a hard time just "hearing" parts of a song, something that I'm sure comes natural to most of the people that belong to this site.  I praise God for this site because without people like T-Block and Val I probably wouldn't know how to play many songs..or know any theory as to what I'm playing.  I've only been playing a short time, and I was a secondary keyboard player at my church...Our primary keyboard player, our M.O.M., quit about5 weeks ago, during rehearsal....So everyone looked to me to take over...I took the position because I felt led to do so by God....I admit, humbly, that I am probably one of the ones on this site that "take away" more than I "give", but it's not because I'm greedy or anything, it's just because I'm still learning and I found this site and I love this site because with the tools here I am learning so much.  Afterall, the name is "Learn" Gospel Music...I pray all the time that God will open my ears to hear what I need to hear and that someday I will be able to help some beginner out with playing for his/her church like all of you have helped me...I am ever so grateful to all of those who contribute to this site and have a burden to teach up and coming church musicians....
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: sjonathan02 on June 14, 2009, 05:13:50 PM
I request chords because I am a beginner keyboard player and I have a hard time just "hearing" parts of a song, something that I'm sure comes natural to most of the people that belong to this site.  I praise God for this site because without people like T-Block and Val I probably wouldn't know how to play many songs..or know any theory as to what I'm playing.  I've only been playing a short time, and I was a secondary keyboard player at my church...Our primary keyboard player, our M.O.M., quit about5 weeks ago, during rehearsal....So everyone looked to me to take over...I took the position because I felt led to do so by God....I admit, humbly, that I am probably one of the ones on this site that "take away" more than I "give", but it's not because I'm greedy or anything, it's just because I'm still learning and I found this site and I love this site because with the tools here I am learning so much.  Afterall, the name is "Learn" Gospel Music...I pray all the time that God will open my ears to hear what I need to hear and that someday I will be able to help some beginner out with playing for his/her church like all of you have helped me...I am ever so grateful to all of those who contribute to this site and have a burden to teach up and coming church musicians....

Go to hear and play.com and get Jermaine's 330 page course and DVD.

That's what helped me 'hear' what's going on in a lot of stuff.


My big issue is my fingers not working independently of one another.  I don't think there's a DVD for that yet. :-\
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: T-Block on June 14, 2009, 09:41:06 PM
I request chords because I am a beginner keyboard player and I have a hard time just "hearing" parts of a song, something that I'm sure comes natural to most of the people that belong to this site.

I hear this a lot from people. Contrary to what you or others may think, hearing parts in music doesn't really come natural to anyone. It only comes to the person who pays close attention. Once u pay close attention, over time you will notice patterns from song to song.

The next problem would be figuring out those patterns you hear. This is where your theory can come in to assist you. Once u write down every note you hear, theory will help u to zero in on what chords are most likely to be played.

It all depends on whether or not your willing to step out and just do it. You won't learn to hear parts of a song if u never try. I don't mean try a couple of times then give up. Keep trying, and trying, and trying. Then when u want to give up, try again. I promise, it will eventually come.

My big issue is my fingers not working independently of one another.  I don't think there's a DVD for that yet. :-\

HAHAHAHA, that's a problem for most people. The only thing that will help that is practicing scales using correct fingering, preferably blind-folded. Not seeing your fingers will cause you to focus more.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: B3Wannabe on June 14, 2009, 10:42:43 PM
I hear this a lot from people. Contrary to what you or others may think, hearing parts in music doesn't really come natural to anyone. It only comes to the person who pays close attention. Once u pay close attention, over time you will notice patterns from song to song.

The next problem would be figuring out those patterns you hear. This is where your theory can come in to assist you. Once u write down every note you hear, theory will help u to zero in on what chords are most likely to be played.

It all depends on whether or not your willing to step out and just do it. You won't learn to hear parts of a song if u never try. I don't mean try a couple of times then give up. Keep trying, and trying, and trying. Then when u want to give up, try again. I promise, it will eventually come.

HAHAHAHA, that's a problem for most people. The only thing that will help that is practicing scales using correct fingering, preferably blind-folded. Not seeing your fingers will cause you to focus more.

Indeed. Even though my ear is pretty strong, I still can find songs that make me do the rewind shuffle. I have a playlist on Media Player, with songs--which are just out of my playing ability--that I practice. I also like to challenge my friends to see who can learn a song the fastest. If I learn it first, then I help them learn it, if them, then they'll teach.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: Incognegro on June 15, 2009, 02:41:51 PM
The only thing that will help that is practicing scales using correct fingering, preferably blind-folded. Not seeing your fingers will cause you to focus more.

That's some real Mr. Miyagi type stuff.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: sjonathan02 on June 15, 2009, 02:58:13 PM
The only thing that will help that is practicing scales using correct fingering, preferably blind-folded. Not seeing your fingers will cause you to focus more.


That's some real Mr. Miyagi type stuff.

  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: T-Block on June 15, 2009, 03:35:07 PM
That's some real Mr. Miyagi type stuff.

I know man. Extreme times call for extreme measures. Why you think Stevie Wonder so talented?

Not that he has a choice, but I'm just saying.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: Incognegro on June 15, 2009, 04:14:24 PM
I know man. Extreme times call for extreme measures. Why you think Stevie Wonder so talented?

Not that he has a choice, but I'm just saying.

LOL @ Small text.

 :D
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: shachah Praise on June 16, 2009, 06:48:28 AM
Hello T-Block. Well the reason why I request chords because i have tried and tried to hear a song and figure it out and it has not happened. I cannot sing, can't pick it up by ear. I am the Only musician @ my Church. I am praying that God will send another musician who is annointed and loves the Lord. I played a couple of songs @ the Church that the people knew< i backed up my Pastor when he was preaching and then boom, i became the muscian. So I really need the help. I try but,it's hard. My memorization skills have improved greatly though.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: chevonee on June 16, 2009, 09:36:57 PM
I was one of those requesters until I got a good dose of reality :o :o :o . Most of the time that was a bailout for me, to keep me from getting fruscrated (int) but I had to learn better. If you're not careful frustration will result in laziness which will then result in dependency (sp?) and that all comes together to equal mediocrity (sp?). Now that I'm in a COGIC church, that cute little stuff no longer impresses...folks that really know how to  play will embarrass (sp?) you. What happens when someone sings a song out of the blue? I can understand if you're a beginner but don't just settle with that. Always strive to go higher in your craft so that you'll know how to stand up under the pressure of a song that you really don't know.


I'm sorry about the spelling and punctuation yall I'm just tellin ya from experience what I know.  ;)
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: csedwards2 on June 19, 2009, 06:18:25 PM
im so anxious to hear the response of one, but havent seen her or him yet.


btw, I dont think Ive ever requested anything either, however, I have searched for quite a few things, and if I dont see it, then its time to put in some qt. If I search, its because Im trying to learn it quick for a rehearsal or something, but usually the stuff I search fr, which I would think are common tunes, arent posted, so after I learn them I feel inclined to post.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: musallio on June 24, 2009, 09:04:39 PM
I don'tknow if I've ever asked, but if I ever did, it was because I had really liked the song, tried hard to learn it but really failed to figure out the bassline (and maybe some other chords).

I started off by self-teaching, so my only weapon was paying attention to what I heard & trying hard to figure out patterns.

This is where theory came in to save me. I learnt the basic patterns before I even knew the theory 8) When I learnt the theory it was confirmation & I just practised more.

I enjoy the posts & learned (& still do) quiet a chunkful from them because I do my own analysis of them & derive other stuff.

To me, playing from what has been posted is like saying: Play that again Sam!  :) I pick up a thing or 2 & apply it to other songs.

But over time, I've preffered listening to , say, solid blues or other genres of music where I can pick up a new progression & try to apply it in my music vocab in any song it fits into.

Conclusion

I do encourage requests, but you should be willing to pay a minimum labor fee to show some appreciation- it takes a long time to write ;D (It's also very enriching by the way..I re-inforced my learning by helping requesters ;) )
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: T-Block on June 28, 2009, 04:40:12 PM
Conclusion

I do encourage requests, but you should be willing to pay a minimum labor fee to show some appreciation- it takes a long time to write ;D (It's also very enriching by the way..I re-inforced my learning by helping requesters ;) )

I bet you if people had to pay to get songs chorded out, we would see less chord requests. For years I spent tons of money buying songbooks and stuff when I had the knowledge to learn songs all along. I just had to make a decision to stop being lazy and get down to business.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: minofmusic on June 29, 2009, 10:45:13 AM
when i request chords usually its because i cant hear all the licks on the CD. but one thing i have learned from T-Block is that if you follow the bassline and build your chord off the bass note. that has really helped me. but sometimes the inversions on the CD are a little tricky
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: betnich on June 29, 2009, 11:58:21 AM
when i request chords usually its because i cant hear all the licks on the CD. but one thing i have learned from T-Block is that if you follow the bassline and build your chord off the bass note. that has really helped me. but sometimes the inversions on the CD are a little tricky

So true - I start with the bass line.
And chords - if I can hear the keyboard parts in the mix I go with those, but you're right, sometimes there's different versions/inversions in the guitar and the rest of the arrangement that I find I have to listen to over and over until I can boil it down to one chord symbol...
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: minofmusic on June 29, 2009, 12:47:17 PM
and to piggy back on my first comment. sometimes the church folk/choir leaders/pastors will ask us to learn a song by Sunday and Today is Thursday. alot of us have full time jobs during the week and we are just rushing trying to accomodate everyone. so i can see where sometimes people are asking for chords in haste because they are trying to hurry up and learn a song before rehersal or revival. But the longer you stay on this site the better you should become as a musician. Learn your chords, learn your patterns, Because if you get caught on the Organ and have to play a song there is no transpose button on the organ. lol
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: hardheaded on July 03, 2009, 01:36:45 PM
I dont request alot but when i do request its because a few reasons

#1 my ear sucks and i cant really listen to a song and pick out chords and progressions(i am working on it though getting a little better)
#2 you guys are such beast that i know that if i do get a song down you guys will be able to give me some sick variations and different little things to make what i play sound better
#3 I only know how to play in a few keys right now (working on that also the play in every key series is helping me tremendously) so if the song is in a unfamiliar key i know someone hear will be able to spell it out for me and strengthen my playing in that key
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: musallio on November 27, 2009, 12:10:42 PM
Wow! what an interesting read 8)

I was surprised to see my comment- it's exactly the same as what I'm thinking right now- I had forgotten that I had commented :P

thought to self:

All the comments here are true.
If I wasn't so lazy, I would be very far right now in my playing. Like T said- when you feel like giving up, start again :D

-we take it for granted that we have sight and don't focus as much as we would if we were scaffolded.
with that comment, please welcome:
(http://evanlenz.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/logo.png)

Try that - 'twill be uncomfortable in the interim- but I know you'll come will envelopes full of royalties afterwards ;D

Desperate times call for desperate measures--any serious ninjas out there  [please note- address me as PianoNinja_01 from now on] ;)
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: betnich on November 27, 2009, 04:47:03 PM
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Shouldn't that PianoNinja be using his thumbs?
;)
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on November 28, 2009, 11:24:07 AM

My big issue is my fingers not working independently of one another.  I don't think there's a DVD for that yet. :-\

bone up on dem Hanon excersises.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: musallio on November 28, 2009, 12:37:31 PM
Shouldn't that PianoNinja be using his thumbs?
;)

Actually- No.....
Try to practice without using your thumbs and see how versatile your fingers will be.
Next time when you play, you will have a handicap- like someone playing with 6 fingers- more opportunity for you to do more things :) ;)


Like we said, desperate times call for extreme measure- Now start practicing without the thumbs my ninja ;D
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: jude63 on November 28, 2009, 01:04:24 PM
Chords are not hard to learn.....I think my ears can recognize progressions without even being at the keyboard.......but the challenging part is playing those chords in different ways(voicings), the stuff inbetween the chords also are important, we all need someone to show us stuff now and again
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: jermaine19 on January 12, 2010, 08:53:38 PM
I requested chords because I couldn't figure out the song. I am not one to ask for any assistance of any kind whatsoever, so for me to ask must mean that I am desperate for help with a song. I can understand some people's frustrations when it comes to chord requests all the time. I guess that is why I stop requesting chords because I don't want to be a liability to anyone, and I didn't want to hear anyone's opinion as to why I couldn't figure out a song. Plus, it seems like when you ask for something then people can be a little mean about it and that will kill your joyous spirit. I just decided to do it on my own.   :-\
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: musallio on January 15, 2010, 05:04:28 AM
I requested chords because I couldn't figure out the song. I am not one to ask for any assistance of any kind whatsoever, so for me to ask must mean that I am desperate for help with a song. I can understand some people's frustrations when it comes to chord requests all the time. I guess that is why I stop requesting chords because I don't want to be a liability to anyone, and I didn't want to hear anyone's opinion as to why I couldn't figure out a song. Plus, it seems like when you ask for something then people can be a little mean about it and that will kill your joyous spirit. I just decided to do it on my own.   :-\

Oops, sorry bout your unpleasant experience.
I'm sure sometimes those that are mean are not mean because they mean to be mean, but rather are discouraging wanting to be spoonfed (not that you would be like that). I know there are the exceptional few who are straightup mean.
But hey J, don't be discouraged bro. :)
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: King Gary Sr. on January 15, 2010, 06:03:31 AM
well my answer would be assist becuase their may be something that I did'nt hear or I may be having a hard time with the song and would have to play the song that weekend and I would need some help like now I have to play Jesus paid it all by kirk franklin on saturday and I dont know it 100% and I need some help asap so I won't get up there and sound like a fool so if you know the song or if you know someone who knows the song could you help me out I been tryng to study the song and I can only go so far and its a day away so if you can may or will you help me please!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 15, 2010, 09:07:35 AM
well my answer would be assist becuase their may be something that I did'nt hear or I may be having a hard time with the song and would have to play the song that weekend and I would need some help like now I have to play Jesus paid it all by kirk franklin on saturday and I dont know it 100% and I need some help asap so I won't get up there and sound like a fool so if you know the song or if you know someone who knows the song could you help me out I been tryng to study the song and I can only go so far and its a day away so if you can may or will you help me please!!!!!!!!!

Periods.  Do you use them?


















(kidding!)  :D
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: csedwards2 on January 15, 2010, 11:32:12 AM
^^^^no he's not. lol
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 15, 2010, 12:51:45 PM
Periods.  Do you use them?


(kidding!)  :D

^^^^no he's not. lol

....yea....I suppose I wasn't.   :-\
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: under13 on January 15, 2010, 01:25:48 PM
LOL ^^^

I'm just concerned about the chord requesters who need chords for every song they need to learn and have been like that for the past 5 years. Its like where's the growth? You need to work on your ear and recognize patterns, because most of these songs use the same chords and progressions.

What are you gonna do when you get to church and the praise leader says the song is too high and she needs you to take it down a half step, but you dont have the chords for it in that key?

Oh, and they should also learn how to read music. There is no reason to ask for chords for any song thar is in the hymn book. All they gotta do is learn the notes on the staff and chord it out themselves.

Sorry if I sound like an elitist or something.

I even get emails from random folks asking for chords to songs.  They will say something like; "I need chords for this song that I have to play on Sunday." Hey, I don't like figuring out songs for myself let alone doing it when the person doesn't appear to have taken the time to try learning a song.

lol, they do it in the chat room too.


I was one of those requesters until I got a good dose of reality :o :o :o . Most of the time that was a bailout for me, to keep me from getting fruscrated (int) but I had to learn better. If you're not careful frustration will result in laziness which will then result in dependency (sp?) and that all comes together to equal mediocrity (sp?). Now that I'm in a COGIC church, that cute little stuff no longer impresses...folks that really know how to  play will embarrass (sp?) you. What happens when someone sings a song out of the blue? I can understand if you're a beginner but don't just settle with that. Always strive to go higher in your craft so that you'll know how to stand up under the pressure of a song that you really don't know.


I'm sorry about the spelling and punctuation yall I'm just tellin ya from experience what I know.  ;)

Exactly
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: T-Block on January 16, 2010, 09:45:21 AM
I just have a big problem with someone saying they need help with chords, when they really want the whole song chorded out for them. Don't lie to me saying you want help when u haven't tried yourself. Trust me, I can tell you're lying because I've been there and done that.

If you say you've figured out some of the song, then post what you have. Unless u have an audio/video clip of you playing, the only way I'm really gonna know u tried is if u post what you figured out. Only then will I believe you need help. I'm willing to help anyone who puts forth some effort.

It starts with learning the basics then progressing from there. If you trying to skip the basics and just dive into playing songs, you're wasting your and my time.

This is just T-Block. I don't speak for everyone! ;)
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: betnich on January 16, 2010, 02:26:17 PM
I was getting PM's from this one LGM'r who makes vague requests that I could not address without working with them in person - like 'I want to play more contemporary' and 'how can I sound phat' ...Not actual words, but...

Told him to stop after I got four in one week....
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: Mysteryman on January 17, 2010, 09:58:56 PM
I post chord charts or the symbols now. Just typing note for note takes way to long. I actually helped a friend with a song at my house. Gave her note for note. Took an hour or more. I did another song and told her to write the chord naes. Took 5 ten minutes.  :P Plus chord charts is universal for piano, bass, and guitar.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: betnich on January 18, 2010, 11:55:30 AM
I post chord charts or the symbols now. Just typing note for note takes way to long. I actually helped a friend with a song at my house. Gave her note for note. Took an hour or more. I did another song and told her to write the chord names. Took 5 ten minutes.  :P Plus chord charts is universal for piano, bass, and guitar.

Me too.....though I wish LGM would fix its Upload File feature....chord charts don't align properly when I post them here.

    All our songs for Praise Team are in guitar-style chord chart format (no TABs, though)....
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: T-Block on January 18, 2010, 05:18:01 PM
I post chord charts or the symbols now. Just typing note for note takes way to long. I actually helped a friend with a song at my house. Gave her note for note. Took an hour or more. I did another song and told her to write the chord naes. Took 5 ten minutes.  :P Plus chord charts is universal for piano, bass, and guitar.

Yeah, then u gonna get someone who insists they can't read chord symbols and wants it note for note. No matter what somebody's gonna complain.
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: under13 on January 18, 2010, 06:04:54 PM
Yeah, then u gonna get someone who insists they can't read chord symbols and wants it note for note. No matter what somebody's gonna complain.
then that should just be too bad for them. they should take a little time and learn it. There's more than enough material on this site alone to teach them major/minor chords and the number system in a very short time. a lot of us want to walk before we crawl (I was/am still there  :D )
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: King Gary Sr. on January 18, 2010, 09:42:02 PM
Wow !!!!!! Well I see where ya'll coming from. But you also have to consider what the other persons situation is. Ya i asked for help only to speed the up proccess  but ended up going back to my roots. I really did'nt want to study the song but ended up doing so anyway and all it took was an hour to play and for me to know that we had to perform the song in a week I was tring to go every shortcut I could. it's funny how people can be so selfish with knowlege I tell you anyone can ask me and I'm willing to help. I find this one thing to be true you reap what you sow. One thing that I do know is everyone has room to grow no matter how long you've been playing their is always going to be somthing new and fresh coming out and people play thing differently and  I want to grow I have a decade of playing under my belt and I'm still learning me being self tought and not having a personal teacher to guide me. I'm willing to learn from everyone no matter how old or young they may be. I know alot but I not that dumb not to ask for help I'm one of those who skipped steps and had to go from playing to learning the consept if music and my theory is still not where I want it  to be but give me a book and I will play that plus my remix version all in one but I still ask for help. Like I said, people play things differently and I want to play it all, my way, your way, his way, and her way all the ways they can be played I want to play them. My goal as a musican is to keep growing. If I ask for help and don't get it don't worry and don't fret  it only takes a few minutes to listen to any song and play it . I can listen to anything and play it thats no problem I just want to grow and edify everyone with the gift GOD has BLESSED me with. The moral of the story is help ya brotha or sista out and remember you were once a beginner and wanted help and for us who are no longer beginners we like to steal material to use in our own ways so stop being selfish with knowledge......!!!  Now as far a saturday we did GREAT I KNOW YOU SEE THE PERIODS  NOW    LOi
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 18, 2010, 09:51:08 PM
Wow !!!!!! Well I see where ya'll coming from. But you also have to consider what the other persons situation is. Ya i asked for help only to speed the up proccess  but ended up going back to my roots. I really did'nt want to study the song but ended up doing so anyway and all it took was an hour to play and for me to know that we had to perform the song in a week I was tring to go every shortcut I could. it's funny how people can be so selfish with knowlege I tell you anyone can ask me and I'm willing to help. I find this one thing to be true you reap what you sow. One thing that I do know is everyone has room to grow no matter how long you've been playing their is always going to be somthing new and fresh coming out and people play thing differently and  I want to grow I have a decade of playing under my belt and I'm still learning me being self tought and not having a personal teacher to guide me. I'm willing to learn from everyone no matter how old or young they may be. I know alot but I not that dumb not to ask for help I'm one of those who skipped steps and had to go from playing to learning the consept if music and my theory is still not where I want it  to be but give me a book and I will play that plus my remix version all in one but I still ask for help. Like I said, people play things differently and I want to play it all, my way, your way, his way, and her way all the ways they can be played I want to play them. My goal as a musican is to keep growing. If I ask for help and don't get it don't worry and don't fret  it only takes a few minutes to listen to any song and play it . I can listen to anything and play it thats no problem I just want to grow and edify everyone with the gift GOD has BLESSED me with. The moral of the story is help ya brotha or sista out and remember you were once a beginner and wanted help and for us who are no longer beginners we like to steal material to use in our own ways so stop being selfish with knowledge......!!!  Now as far a saturday we did GREAT I KNOW YOU SEE THE PERIODS  NOW    LOi

Wall of text! Can't. read. it.  :o

It has periods; now how about giving it paragraphs? You know after every five sentences hit the 'enter' key, perhaps? :-\
Title: Re: Question for da chord requesters
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 19, 2010, 09:01:08 AM
Wow !!!!!! Well I see where ya'll coming from. But you also have to consider what the other persons situation is. Ya i asked for help only to speed the up proccess  but ended up going back to my roots. I really did'nt want to study the song but ended up doing so anyway and all it took was an hour to play and for me to know that we had to perform the song in a week I was tring to go every shortcut I could. it's funny how people can be so selfish with knowlege I tell you anyone can ask me and I'm willing to help. I find this one thing to be true you reap what you sow. One thing that I do know is everyone has room to grow no matter how long you've been playing their is always going to be somthing new and fresh coming out and people play thing differently and  I want to grow I have a decade of playing under my belt and I'm still learning me being self tought and not having a personal teacher to guide me. I'm willing to learn from everyone no matter how old or young they may be. I know alot but I not that dumb not to ask for help I'm one of those who skipped steps and had to go from playing to learning the consept if music and my theory is still not where I want it  to be but give me a book and I will play that plus my remix version all in one but I still ask for help. Like I said, people play things differently and I want to play it all, my way, your way, his way, and her way all the ways they can be played I want to play them. My goal as a musican is to keep growing. If I ask for help and don't get it don't worry and don't fret  it only takes a few minutes to listen to any song and play it . I can listen to anything and play it thats no problem I just want to grow and edify everyone with the gift GOD has BLESSED me with. The moral of the story is help ya brotha or sista out and remember you were once a beginner and wanted help and for us who are no longer beginners we like to steal material to use in our own ways so stop being selfish with knowledge......!!!  Now as far a saturday we did GREAT I KNOW YOU SEE THE PERIODS  NOW    LOi


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