I think there are a lot of musicians on here that do just that, but, from personal experience, you can't learn anything that way.SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!
God Bless
i read and take in whats posted, but i tend not to ask for anything because people post notes instead of chord types and its actually more frustrating trying to learn to play a song at a skill level that you arent at because thats the way someone else plays.
If a chord is a Cmin9, it would be easier for me to be told its a Cmin9 (so i can voice that chord how im able to) than be given a list of notes that puts like 3 notes in the left hand and stretching 2 octaves in the right hand because thats a sweet voicing that someone uses but i cant even do that, let alone do it in the middle of the song and in time.
i actually save time putting my ear to work and trying to figure out what i can, than wait for a post (if someone even responds) and translate that into something i can use.
tblock your last few posts i read giving chords provided the chord names, and having that opened up some things in my playing tremendously
tblock your last few posts i read giving chords provided the chord names, and having that opened up some things in my playing tremendously
Even if you have to figure it out one chord at a time, there's a sense of accomplishment you get on Sunday Morning, knowing that you worked it out for yourself.
Ur welcome man. When I first started posting chords, it was notes only. Then, once I realized that learning songs that way doesn't really help, I started doing a chord symbol version. For the most part, I don't even need the chord symobls. All I need is the bass notes and I can learn any song.
I like that and agree with the sentiments. It does make u feel good when u work hard and reap the benefits of your hard work.
AND, as you said, you learn faster that way.
When you work a song out yourself you "own" it. You understand it.
Over time you'll be listening to someone play and say "Ah, ok. I know what that was."
I request chords because I am a beginner keyboard player and I have a hard time just "hearing" parts of a song, something that I'm sure comes natural to most of the people that belong to this site. I praise God for this site because without people like T-Block and Val I probably wouldn't know how to play many songs..or know any theory as to what I'm playing. I've only been playing a short time, and I was a secondary keyboard player at my church...Our primary keyboard player, our M.O.M., quit about5 weeks ago, during rehearsal....So everyone looked to me to take over...I took the position because I felt led to do so by God....I admit, humbly, that I am probably one of the ones on this site that "take away" more than I "give", but it's not because I'm greedy or anything, it's just because I'm still learning and I found this site and I love this site because with the tools here I am learning so much. Afterall, the name is "Learn" Gospel Music...I pray all the time that God will open my ears to hear what I need to hear and that someday I will be able to help some beginner out with playing for his/her church like all of you have helped me...I am ever so grateful to all of those who contribute to this site and have a burden to teach up and coming church musicians....
I request chords because I am a beginner keyboard player and I have a hard time just "hearing" parts of a song, something that I'm sure comes natural to most of the people that belong to this site.
My big issue is my fingers not working independently of one another. I don't think there's a DVD for that yet. :-\
I hear this a lot from people. Contrary to what you or others may think, hearing parts in music doesn't really come natural to anyone. It only comes to the person who pays close attention. Once u pay close attention, over time you will notice patterns from song to song.
The next problem would be figuring out those patterns you hear. This is where your theory can come in to assist you. Once u write down every note you hear, theory will help u to zero in on what chords are most likely to be played.
It all depends on whether or not your willing to step out and just do it. You won't learn to hear parts of a song if u never try. I don't mean try a couple of times then give up. Keep trying, and trying, and trying. Then when u want to give up, try again. I promise, it will eventually come.
HAHAHAHA, that's a problem for most people. The only thing that will help that is practicing scales using correct fingering, preferably blind-folded. Not seeing your fingers will cause you to focus more.
The only thing that will help that is practicing scales using correct fingering, preferably blind-folded. Not seeing your fingers will cause you to focus more.
The only thing that will help that is practicing scales using correct fingering, preferably blind-folded. Not seeing your fingers will cause you to focus more.
That's some real Mr. Miyagi type stuff.
That's some real Mr. Miyagi type stuff.
I know man. Extreme times call for extreme measures. Why you think Stevie Wonder so talented?
Not that he has a choice, but I'm just saying.
Conclusion
I do encourage requests, but you should be willing to pay a minimum labor fee to show some appreciation- it takes a long time to write ;D (It's also very enriching by the way..I re-inforced my learning by helping requesters ;) )
when i request chords usually its because i cant hear all the licks on the CD. but one thing i have learned from T-Block is that if you follow the bassline and build your chord off the bass note. that has really helped me. but sometimes the inversions on the CD are a little tricky
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My big issue is my fingers not working independently of one another. I don't think there's a DVD for that yet. :-\
Shouldn't that PianoNinja be using his thumbs?
;)
I requested chords because I couldn't figure out the song. I am not one to ask for any assistance of any kind whatsoever, so for me to ask must mean that I am desperate for help with a song. I can understand some people's frustrations when it comes to chord requests all the time. I guess that is why I stop requesting chords because I don't want to be a liability to anyone, and I didn't want to hear anyone's opinion as to why I couldn't figure out a song. Plus, it seems like when you ask for something then people can be a little mean about it and that will kill your joyous spirit. I just decided to do it on my own. :-\
well my answer would be assist becuase their may be something that I did'nt hear or I may be having a hard time with the song and would have to play the song that weekend and I would need some help like now I have to play Jesus paid it all by kirk franklin on saturday and I dont know it 100% and I need some help asap so I won't get up there and sound like a fool so if you know the song or if you know someone who knows the song could you help me out I been tryng to study the song and I can only go so far and its a day away so if you can may or will you help me please!!!!!!!!!
Periods. Do you use them?
(kidding!) :D
^^^^no he's not. lol
I even get emails from random folks asking for chords to songs. They will say something like; "I need chords for this song that I have to play on Sunday." Hey, I don't like figuring out songs for myself let alone doing it when the person doesn't appear to have taken the time to try learning a song.
I was one of those requesters until I got a good dose of reality :o :o :o . Most of the time that was a bailout for me, to keep me from getting fruscrated (int) but I had to learn better. If you're not careful frustration will result in laziness which will then result in dependency (sp?) and that all comes together to equal mediocrity (sp?). Now that I'm in a COGIC church, that cute little stuff no longer impresses...folks that really know how to play will embarrass (sp?) you. What happens when someone sings a song out of the blue? I can understand if you're a beginner but don't just settle with that. Always strive to go higher in your craft so that you'll know how to stand up under the pressure of a song that you really don't know.
I'm sorry about the spelling and punctuation yall I'm just tellin ya from experience what I know. ;)
I post chord charts or the symbols now. Just typing note for note takes way to long. I actually helped a friend with a song at my house. Gave her note for note. Took an hour or more. I did another song and told her to write the chord names. Took 5 ten minutes. :P Plus chord charts is universal for piano, bass, and guitar.
I post chord charts or the symbols now. Just typing note for note takes way to long. I actually helped a friend with a song at my house. Gave her note for note. Took an hour or more. I did another song and told her to write the chord naes. Took 5 ten minutes. :P Plus chord charts is universal for piano, bass, and guitar.
Yeah, then u gonna get someone who insists they can't read chord symbols and wants it note for note. No matter what somebody's gonna complain.then that should just be too bad for them. they should take a little time and learn it. There's more than enough material on this site alone to teach them major/minor chords and the number system in a very short time. a lot of us want to walk before we crawl (I was/am still there :D )
Wow !!!!!! Well I see where ya'll coming from. But you also have to consider what the other persons situation is. Ya i asked for help only to speed the up proccess but ended up going back to my roots. I really did'nt want to study the song but ended up doing so anyway and all it took was an hour to play and for me to know that we had to perform the song in a week I was tring to go every shortcut I could. it's funny how people can be so selfish with knowlege I tell you anyone can ask me and I'm willing to help. I find this one thing to be true you reap what you sow. One thing that I do know is everyone has room to grow no matter how long you've been playing their is always going to be somthing new and fresh coming out and people play thing differently and I want to grow I have a decade of playing under my belt and I'm still learning me being self tought and not having a personal teacher to guide me. I'm willing to learn from everyone no matter how old or young they may be. I know alot but I not that dumb not to ask for help I'm one of those who skipped steps and had to go from playing to learning the consept if music and my theory is still not where I want it to be but give me a book and I will play that plus my remix version all in one but I still ask for help. Like I said, people play things differently and I want to play it all, my way, your way, his way, and her way all the ways they can be played I want to play them. My goal as a musican is to keep growing. If I ask for help and don't get it don't worry and don't fret it only takes a few minutes to listen to any song and play it . I can listen to anything and play it thats no problem I just want to grow and edify everyone with the gift GOD has BLESSED me with. The moral of the story is help ya brotha or sista out and remember you were once a beginner and wanted help and for us who are no longer beginners we like to steal material to use in our own ways so stop being selfish with knowledge......!!! Now as far a saturday we did GREAT I KNOW YOU SEE THE PERIODS NOW LOi
Wow !!!!!! Well I see where ya'll coming from. But you also have to consider what the other persons situation is. Ya i asked for help only to speed the up proccess but ended up going back to my roots. I really did'nt want to study the song but ended up doing so anyway and all it took was an hour to play and for me to know that we had to perform the song in a week I was tring to go every shortcut I could. it's funny how people can be so selfish with knowlege I tell you anyone can ask me and I'm willing to help. I find this one thing to be true you reap what you sow. One thing that I do know is everyone has room to grow no matter how long you've been playing their is always going to be somthing new and fresh coming out and people play thing differently and I want to grow I have a decade of playing under my belt and I'm still learning me being self tought and not having a personal teacher to guide me. I'm willing to learn from everyone no matter how old or young they may be. I know alot but I not that dumb not to ask for help I'm one of those who skipped steps and had to go from playing to learning the consept if music and my theory is still not where I want it to be but give me a book and I will play that plus my remix version all in one but I still ask for help. Like I said, people play things differently and I want to play it all, my way, your way, his way, and her way all the ways they can be played I want to play them. My goal as a musican is to keep growing. If I ask for help and don't get it don't worry and don't fret it only takes a few minutes to listen to any song and play it . I can listen to anything and play it thats no problem I just want to grow and edify everyone with the gift GOD has BLESSED me with. The moral of the story is help ya brotha or sista out and remember you were once a beginner and wanted help and for us who are no longer beginners we like to steal material to use in our own ways so stop being selfish with knowledge......!!! Now as far a saturday we did GREAT I KNOW YOU SEE THE PERIODS NOW LOi