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Main => Gospel Music Lounge => Topic started by: Hasmonean1 on July 28, 2009, 01:54:36 PM
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Okay, you move out of town and began to seek a church home. You visit several churches. There is one in town that belongs to your oranization but there is another one that you visited that blesses you more and has the same feel as the church you left.
Do you join the church of your organization?
Or do you join the church that blesses you the most?
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Definitely the latter. NEVER would I attend a church just because it's part of my 'organization'. ::)
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I was gonna start this thread a while back, but totally forgot.
Me, I doesent matter to me. When I get to Heaven, I dont expect to see a baptist, cogic or lutheran section. But if I were looking for a new church, I would check out COGIC, Pentecostal, Non demoninational, Baptist and SDA in that order
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I'm big on my organization, BUT if the church blesses you then go... BUT when I called myself "leaving" COGIC, I went to a church and almost died there because there was no district meeting, no state meetings/convocation, no workers meetings, no choir functions, no state choir, no district choir, no NUFFIN! So if you are very involved with your organization, I would say its a bad idea, because I was itchin' for a meeting to be in (COGIC folks are very busy and travel a lot) or a banquet or SOMETHING! So weigh your options, because for me even tho the "church" blessed me, what it was connected to could keep me interested. :)
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A whole lot of criteria go into my decision-making, but 'organization' is not high on the list at all. It's on the list only because there are some that I'd automatically exclude due to doctrine.
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Definitely the latter. NEVER would I attend a church just because it's part of my 'organization'. ::)
A whole lot of criteria go into my decision-making, but 'organization' is not high on the list at all. It's on the list only because there are some that I'd automatically exclude due to doctrine.
In. deed.
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there are some that I'd automatically exclude due to doctrine.
like which ones? *grabs popcorn*
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like which ones? *grabs popcorn*
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I'd have to lean in LL's direction, except the organization isn't as far down on my list as it is on his. I'm also leaning in U13's direction.
I've lived and/or worked in various cities, so I've been in that place before. Typically, I ALWAYS try to find an Apostolic or Pentecostal 7th Day Church, but those are like finding a needle in a haystack. After that, I start visiting either Apostolic or COGIC churches. At this point in my life, if I had to move again, I'd probably eliminate COGIC from my options just because of doctrinal differences.
At the end of the day, I'd definitely join the church where I could be a blessing, and where I was being blessed. I would never join a church just because of the organizations. There isn't a single organization out there (non-denom included) that isn't severely flawed, one way or another. I don't care about organization, but I do care about doctrinal teachings.
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like which ones? *grabs popcorn*
I'm not biting. But, I'll take some corn, if you're sharing. ;)
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At the end of the day, I'd definitely join the church where I could be a blessing, and where I was being blessed. I would never join a church just because of the organizations. There isn't a single organization out there (non-denom included) that isn't severely flawed, one way or another.
Girl you done said something right there. (deep)
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A whole lot of criteria go into my decision-making, but 'organization' is not high on the list at all. It's on the list only because there are some that I'd automatically exclude due to doctrine.
CO-SIZZLE!!!
Any church who doesn't believe in women preachers will definitely get the axe from me. Any church wit no (or sucky) music dept. will definitely get the axe from me. Any church that believes in snake-handling will definitely get the axe from me. Any church that believes in....aiight, I'ma stop now.
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CO-SIZZLE!!!
Any church who doesn't believe in women preachers will definitely get the axe from me. Any church wit no (or sucky) music dept. will definitely get the axe from me. Any church that believes in snake-handling will definitely get the axe from me. Any church that believes in....aiight, I'ma stop now.
Uh, what if GAWD placed you there to help improve the music dept? 8)
*runs walks briskly outta thread*
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Uh, what if GAWD placed you there to help improve the music dept? 8)
I knew somebody was gonna chime in wit dat. It just had to be u, dang it. >:( :D
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I knew somebody was gonna chime in wit dat. It just had to be u, dang it. >:( :D
;D 8)
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The organization would definitely be HIGH on my list of considerations for me if I were joining a church, especially if you're VERY ACTIVE in the organization, but it would only be just ONE consideration, and not THE only one, of course. I would definitely agree with Bishop2. If you're used to being a part of an organization and doing a LOT of things with your organization, going from that to a non-denominational church is like going from having a large family with many siblings to being an only child. It's BORING.
Like LaRue said, ALL churches are flawed. At this point in life, I can tell you with certainty that I would NOT join an Apostolic church for sure. If I were to ever move I would defintiely look at COGIC churches first, then go from there.
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I knew somebody was gonna chime in wit dat. It just had to be u, dang it. >:( :D
I'll try to help you out, little bruh.
Where YOU'RE going in ministry, the Lawdt is going to place you in a church that has an excellent music ministry and STILL expect you to improve the music department... you're gonna be so great that you're going to be sent to the places with greatness to make them even GREATER!!! ;D ;)
*you can drop me a $20 bill in the mail* :D :D :D
The organization would definitely be HIGH on my list of considerations for me if I were joining a church, especially if you're VERY ACTIVE in the organization, but it would only be just ONE consideration, and not THE only one, of course. I would definitely agree with Bishop2. If you're used to being a part of an organization and doing a LOT of things with your organization, going from that to a non-denominational church is like going from having a large family with many siblings to being an only child. It's BORING.
Like LaRue said, ALL churches are flawed. At this point in life, I can tell you with certainty that I would NOT join an Apostolic church for sure. If I were to ever move I would defintiely look at COGIC churches first, then go from there.
>:( >:( >:( Watch that, Buster!!! >:(
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>:( >:( >:( Watch that, Buster!!! >:(
Eek! I knew that would potentially incur wrath of Mama Rue! :o :D
It's for doctrinal reasons, though, and the fact that there are so many 100s of Apostolic organizations that I can't keep up with them, and not all of them even believe the same thing. UPC, PAW, COOLJC, Bibleway, AOH (which I just learned about the other day), etc., etc., etc. At this point I would just as soon stick with what I know, and in the meantime chew the meat and spit out the bones (which you have to do at ANY church).
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I'll try to help you out, little bruh.
Where YOU'RE going in ministry, the Lawdt is going to place you in a church that has an excellent music ministry and STILL expect you to improve the music department... you're gonna be so great that you're going to be sent to the places with greatness to make them even GREATER!!! ;D ;)
*you can drop me a $20 bill in the mail* :D :D :D
Receiving that in the name of Jesus, that's if I actually wanted/had to leave my church. ;D :D ;D
As for the $20, I O U!!!
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Yea, Im not given to orgs, so following one is not something Id do. I do have ones I avoid, but no popcorn from me, folks.
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Okay, you move out of town and began to seek a church home. You visit several churches. There is one in town that belongs to your oranization but there is another one that you visited that blesses you more and has the same feel as the church you left.
Do you join the church of your organization?
Or do you join the church that blesses you the most?
If I was in agreement with the major (heaven/hell, life/death) points of the other church, I would pray about joining. I wouldn't be miserable to stay in the organization. The flavor and atmosphere of my organization varies widely from church to church. I presume that is true with most. The baptist I know from my hometown of Utah, is not the same as SisterT's baptist, or even the baptist here in Reno.
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My church is a member of the World Assemblies of Restoration where Bishop James Nelson (Jonathan Nelson's dad) is the Prelate.
We fellowship with churches who are not a part of W.A.R.
I've never understood the obsession that some have with organizations.
Many churches and organizations have given conferences and conventions higher priority than evangelism and deliverance ministries. It's wonderful to have district meetings and convocations and such, but the church is not here to gather in buildings and minister to each other...we're here to reach out to the lost. If we're not doing that, what are we here for?
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My church is a member of the World Assemblies of Restoration where Bishop James Nelson (Jonathan Nelson's dad) is the Prelate.
We fellowship with churches who are not a part of W.A.R.
I've never understood the obsession that some have with organizations.
Many churches and organizations have given conferences and conventions higher priority than evangelism and deliverance ministries. It's wonderful to have district meetings and convocations and such, but the church is not here to gather in buildings and minister to each other...we're here to reach out to the lost. If we're not doing that, what are we here for?
Oh snap. Such a small world. When I lived in DC/MD, I visited Jason Nelson's church, and read their dad's bio.
I do have to say, there's a huge difference between belonging to a "newer" organization and one with the history of an old organization... IMO.
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I'm not loyal to any church organization/denomination. It's all about the unadulterated word of God. Denominations are man made anyway.
just my $0.02
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and in the meantime chew the meat and spit out the bones (which you have to do at ANY church).
Not when the Pastor preaches from the word and doesent add his opinions as though they are facts.
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I do have to say, there's a huge difference between belonging to a "newer" organization and one with the history of an old organization... IMO.
EXACTLY. Couldn't agree with you more.
Not when the Pastor preaches from the word and doesent add his opinions as though they are facts.
I agree, but unfortunately there are very VERY few pastors who actually do this. Even pastors who preach "from the word" are prone to interpret it or misuse it.
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Not when the Pastor preaches from the word and doesent add his opinions as though they are facts.
Even if the pastor was perfect in that aspect, there's always going to be something about the way the organization is run that will cause you to have to decide if it's something you can deal with or whether it's a dealbreaker for you. I think about it every time I have to deal with issues that are more prevalent in the predominantly black church. I suppose if I got tired enough, I'd go worship with my caucasian brothers and sisters, but there'd be something inherent in their way of doing things that would still cause me to SMH or miss what I had.
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True Loopy, but there are some that just take it too the extreme.
Even if the pastor was perfect in that aspect, there's always going to be something about the way the organization is run that will cause you to have to decide if it's something you can deal with or whether it's a dealbreaker for you. I think about it every time I have to deal with issues that are more prevalent in the predominantly black church. I suppose if I got tired enough, I'd go worship with my caucasian brothers and sisters, but there'd be something inherent in their way of doing things that would still cause me to SMH or miss what I had.
True too Nessa,
I dont really worry about the way the org is ran, because I'm not into all of the church politics. I go to church to praise and worship God, to minister and to get he word, not to care about who the newest bishop or national trustee is or whatever else is goin on. For the most part I go to church, then go home. I cant be bothered with all the drama and politics. So thats probably why you rarely see me here complaining about my church, though that will probably change when I become a MOM. :D
but good point, no matter what church you go to they will all have their share of problems
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Even if the pastor was perfect in that aspect, there's always going to be something about the way the organization is run that will cause you to have to decide if it's something you can deal with or whether it's a dealbreaker for you. I think about it every time I have to deal with issues that are more prevalent in the predominantly black church. I suppose if I got tired enough, I'd go worship with my caucasian brothers and sisters, but there'd be something inherent in their way of doing things that would still cause me to SMH or miss what I had.
COSIGN to this entire post. Especially the part in bold. :-\
no matter what church you go to they will all have their share of problems
Indeed.