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Gospel Instruments => Bass Guitar => Topic started by: Musicman_00 on September 10, 2009, 02:20:22 PM
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I'm contemplating getting rid of my Squier Jazz V active b/c it just doesn't give me the tone I'm looking for. I love the feel of it to be honest but the tone just isn't there. I've tried adjusting my intonation and my action and to no avail same old tone. I've been told to try an audere preamp or a obp-3 aguilar. The problem with that is if I change the pre should I change the pups too? I was looking at Delano pups. I love barts but everybody and their mother recommends them. I want to do something noboby else is doing. I also don't want the same tone as everyone either.
I have also read that audere pre have a bad hiss and require a ground from the pups. Has anyone heard of this??? I know Torch put one in his SX 5-string. I also have a problem with the pups as far as size goes.
Squier's website says that they are 5-string jazz pups but they look a lot like 4-string pups that work on a 5-string. I have it running through a Sansamp RBI that I picked up off of Craigslist for 150 bucks(the guy was hurting for cash) and a QSC 900 power amp that still works on either channel when in bridge mode! Can't quite figure it out but it still packs plenty of punch! Help a brotha out y'all please. I believe someone on here has this same bass!!
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I'm contemplating getting rid of my Squier Jazz V active b/c it just doesn't give me the tone I'm looking for. I love the feel of it to be honest but the tone just isn't there. I've tried adjusting my intonation and my action and to no avail same old tone. I've been told to try an audere preamp or a obp-3 aguilar. The problem with that is if I change the pre should I change the pups too? I was looking at Delano pups. I love barts but everybody and their mother recommends them. I want to do something noboby else is doing. I also don't want the same tone as everyone either.
I have also read that audere pre have a bad hiss and require a ground from the pups. Has anyone heard of this??? I know Torch put one in his SX 5-string. I also have a problem with the pups as far as size goes.
Squier's website says that they are 5-string jazz pups but they look a lot like 4-string pups that work on a 5-string. I have it running through a Sansamp RBI that I picked up off of Craigslist for 150 bucks(the guy was hurting for cash) and a QSC 900 power amp that still works on either channel when in bridge mode! Can't quite figure it out but it still packs plenty of punch! Help a brotha out y'all please. I believe someone on here has this same bass!!
Okay so I just got rid of mine, so I hope I can help you
First of all, I upgraded my Squier with Bartolini Jazz pups and the Aguilar OBP-3 preamp. I also had mine wired to add a passive/active switch, to save batteries if they were running low. The upgrade added a new level of versatility that wasn't there with the factory system. I had plenty of sizzle from the highs, enough midrange to cut through anything, and bass boost that could shatter windows...seriously!
You don't HAVE to change the pups if you get a new preamp, you may find that a new preamp will give you what you're looking for. That said, unless you're doing the install yourself you have to factor in the installation cost of having a preamp installed first, and then a set of pickups later. I've never tried the audere, but the obp-3 is an extremely punchy preamp. It has volume for days, and the bass boost is out of this world! Honestly, I hardly ever had to turn the bass knob past the center detent. I liked the Barts in mine, but if you want something different, try whatever you desire. I know delano pups are extremely expensive though, and you may want to buy a new bass for the amount of money you'll spend buying those AND the Aggie preamp AND having them all installed.
Again I don't know much about the audere pre, so I can't help you much there. As far as the pickup sizes go, you'll have to purchase five string pups for the Squier, and they will be bigger than the existing pups. That's another thing that will add cost to the install, the body will have to be routed. Some shops charge quite a bit for this type of operation, so it's something to think about. I actually purchased the 4 string Barts at first, because they are about the same size as the existing pups, but I had to return them and buy the 5 string set. The pups only had 4 pole pieces (for a four string bass) so there would've been an issue with string volume and balancing on the A and D strings.
Have you ever played your bass through different amps, like at a music store or something. Perhaps a new amp will solve your problem, especially if you're considering undertaking an upgrading task like replacing the pups and preamp. Also, do you know what sound you're looking for? You should do a lot of research on the individual components so you can be sure that what you purchase will give you what you want.
Hope this helps you, I know it was a long post, but maybe it will point you in the right direction.
God Bless
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I have also read that audere pre have a bad hiss and require a ground from the pups. Has anyone heard of this??? I know Torch put one in his SX 5-string. I also have a problem with the pups as far as size goes....
I've modded a couple basses with Audere pickups. Two things you need to know.....
1) It comes with a position to connect the ground wire from your bridge to the preamp, if your bridge has a grounding wire.
2) You can ONLY use PASSIVE pickups with an Audere preamp. I don't know if the Squire Jazz V Active has active or passive pickups, but if they are active pickups, you will have to change them. If they are passive, you don't.
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I'm contemplating getting rid of my Squier Jazz V active b/c it just doesn't give me the tone I'm looking for. I love the feel of it to be honest but the tone just isn't there. I've tried adjusting my intonation and my action and to no avail same old tone. I've been told to try an audere preamp or a obp-3 aguilar. The problem with that is if I change the pre should I change the pups too? I was looking at Delano pups. I love barts but everybody and their mother recommends them. I want to do something noboby else is doing. I also don't want the same tone as everyone either.
I have also read that audere pre have a bad hiss and require a ground from the pups. Has anyone heard of this??? I know Torch put one in his SX 5-string. I also have a problem with the pups as far as size goes.
Squier's website says that they are 5-string jazz pups but they look a lot like 4-string pups that work on a 5-string. I have it running through a Sansamp RBI that I picked up off of Craigslist for 150 bucks(the guy was hurting for cash) and a QSC 900 power amp that still works on either channel when in bridge mode! Can't quite figure it out but it still packs plenty of punch! Help a brotha out y'all please. I believe someone on here has this same bass!!
One misconception is that if you have the same electronics as some one else, you'll have the same tone. This is so untrue. Take a look at the USA MTD basses. Andrew Gouche's tone is not the same at Justin Raines, but both have the same electronics. The difference is in the wood combinations that they have and their eq settings. Also, if they had the same wood combination and eq settings, their tones would still be different because of technique and the wood itself. Each piece of ash sounds different, just as well as all the other woods. So, before giving up the bass, you may want to consider an electronics switch. I once wanted to give up my schecter, but there's no way on this earth that I'll give it up now that I've got my aggie obp-3 and bart combination. The aggie is out of this world.
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One misconception is that if you have the same electronics as some one else, you'll have the same tone. This is so untrue. Take a look at the USA MTD basses. Andrew Gouche's tone is not the same at Justin Raines, but both have the same electronics. The difference is in the wood combinations that they have and their eq settings. Also, if they had the same wood combination and eq settings, their tones would still be different because of technique and the wood itself. Each piece of ash sounds different, just as well as all the other woods. So, before giving up the bass, you may want to consider an electronics switch. I once wanted to give up my schecter, but there's no way on this earth that I'll give it up now that I've got my aggie obp-3 and bart combination. The aggie is out of this world.
Very true. Also, you gotta consider your amp/cab configuration in your overall sound. Since you already love the feel of the bass, don't be so quick to give it up.
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Last night at rehearsal I played with my eq on my bass to 0 and played with the Sansamp with the bass at 2 o'clock, mids at 4 and highs at 3. Tone was way better but now the issue is if i want change tones i have to walk back to my amp from the pulpit. I'm a preacher too. Double duty. Lol. I also came across a Line6 product that is a wireless digital unit. It is only 200 bucks! Just thought i.d throw that in.
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Just out of curiosity. Do you change your tone for every song?
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Hmmm? Since you like the feel of the bass; have you considered making it a passive Jazz V?
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I'm contemplating getting rid of my Squier Jazz V active b/c it just doesn't give me the tone I'm looking for. I love the feel of it to be honest but the tone just isn't there. I've tried adjusting my intonation and my action and to no avail same old tone. I've been told to try an audere preamp or a obp-3 aguilar. The problem with that is if I change the pre should I change the pups too? I was looking at Delano pups. I love barts but everybody and their mother recommends them. I want to do something noboby else is doing. I also don't want the same tone as everyone either.
I have also read that audere pre have a bad hiss and require a ground from the pups. Has anyone heard of this??? I know Torch put one in his SX 5-string. I also have a problem with the pups as far as size goes.
Squier's website says that they are 5-string jazz pups but they look a lot like 4-string pups that work on a 5-string. I have it running through a Sansamp RBI that I picked up off of Craigslist for 150 bucks(the guy was hurting for cash) and a QSC 900 power amp that still works on either channel when in bridge mode! Can't quite figure it out but it still packs plenty of punch! Help a brotha out y'all please. I believe someone on here has this same bass!!
Hey Musicman what did you end up doing?
Did you get the wireless digital unit from line6?
Did you change your pups?
Did you change your preamp?
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I didn't get the chance to make any changes. It was stolen by a church member.
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I didn't get the chance to make any changes. It was stolen by a church member.
How somebody steal a bass and nobody notice or say anything? And a church member at that!!!!
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How somebody steal a bass and nobody notice or say anything? And a church member at that!!!!
That's bad. But then again, that's 'church folk' for you. :(
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wow ...
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That's bad. But then again, that's 'church folk' for you. :(
tell me about it. my iPod still hasnt surfaced. wheres Dora when u need her....."Swiper, NO swiping!!!" lol
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I didn't get the chance to make any changes. It was stolen by a church member.
WHAT!!!! WOW!
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Last night at rehearsal I played with my eq on my bass to 0 and played with the Sansamp with the bass at 2 o'clock, mids at 4 and highs at 3. Tone was way better but now the issue is if i want change tones i have to walk back to my amp from the pulpit. I'm a preacher too. Double duty. Lol. I also came across a Line6 product that is a wireless digital unit. It is only 200 bucks! Just thought i.d throw that in.
My Uncle does double duty as well...lol! SN: I'm sorry to hear about ur bass being stolen.
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Whoa!!! Somebody stole a preacher's bass?!? From the church?!? To quote Eddie Murphy, he must want the "Hell Express".
Gabriel: So anything you care to confess?
Thief: Well, once I stole a bass.
Gabriel: Really?
Thief: From a church.
Gabriel: No you didn't!
Thief: It was the pastor's bass.
Gabriel: First elevator on your left. Press the down button, please. Next!!
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Thats triphilant!!!! I can't believe that.
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Well there is a bit of a story behind it. A guy told me he used to play. said he wanted to get back into it. I said I'll let you "borrow' mine until you get your own. His wife is a family member of my godbrother and MOM so I didn't think anything of it. I had 3 basses at the time. I let him hook up and well some people are musicians, some want to be musicians, and then some..............to make it short I also let him use my bass grimoire b/c he said he wanted to take lessons. his wife still comes to church but no sign of him. I don't want to go to the man's wife but he needs to return it. Before anyone says pray about it. Already done it no answer yet! So that's the story.
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Would it be so bad to ask his wife about him? Tell her you are just trying to contact him about a bass guitar? Would she ask him to call? I believe I would, lacking any other way to contact him. I wouldn't consider it stolen until I had exhausted all means to contact him or had a face to face with him. Is it possible that he still thinks he's borrowing it? I would want to make sure that he knew that I was ready for it to be returned. You stated that you said to him; "you can borrow it until you get your own".
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Well there is a bit of a story behind it. A guy told me he used to play. said he wanted to get back into it. I said I'll let you "borrow' mine until you get your own. His wife is a family member of my godbrother and MOM so I didn't think anything of it. I had 3 basses at the time. I let him hook up and well some people are musicians, some want to be musicians, and then some..............to make it short I also let him use my bass grimoire b/c he said he wanted to take lessons. his wife still comes to church but no sign of him. I don't want to go to the man's wife but he needs to return it. Before anyone says pray about it. Already done it no answer yet! So that's the story.
If you didn't want to involve his wife, you could just say, "Please ask your husband to call me." and give her the number.
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Good point D!
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Good point D!
Thanks. :) And you have my prayers that all can be resolved and everyone involved can continue to be in fellowship.
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Would it be so bad to ask his wife about him? Tell her you are just trying to contact him about a bass guitar? Would she ask him to call? I believe I would, lacking any other way to contact him. I wouldn't consider it stolen until I had exhausted all means to contact him or had a face to face with him. Is it possible that he still thinks he's borrowing it? I would want to make sure that he knew that I was ready for it to be returned. You stated that you said to him; "you can borrow it until you get your own".
Ditto, if he's one of your members, you as a preacher should be checking on him anyway. Why not stop by his house to check on the brother, see why he's not coming to service and ask about your bass during the conversation.
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Ditto, if he's one of your members, you as a preacher should be checking on him anyway. Why not stop by his house to check on the brother, see why he's not coming to service and ask about your bass during the conversation.
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I had a similar incident happen to me. This dude used to go to my church and made up story about how he needed to borrow my bass until his situation got resolved (he was at another church at this time). To make a long story short, I have come to understand the concept of "justifiable homicide".................by the grace of God, the dude still liveth.