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Title: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on November 16, 2009, 07:23:28 AM
...okay, after watching the best fight this year this past Saturday night, (Pacquiao vs. Cotto) I was thinking/talking about the money fight (Mayweather vs. Pacquiao) and came up with a few things that Pacman needs to correct before stepping in the ring with Floyd.

1. Manny needs to bring his A+ defense and "smart offense."  I know that Manny loves to punch but if you're going against Floyd you need to fight "smart."  Pacquiao was way too open the first 4 -5 rounds versus Cotto leaving room for an unexpected punch or left hook which did reach him a few times.

2.  Pacquiao needs to understand that Floyd has "great" defense.  He will let you throw your Tsunami punch combos but many of those "will" hit his gloves and forearms leaving Floyd to hit you with again an unexpected jab and left hook.  (Ask Ricky Haddon) lol

...you guys' thoughts and or thoughts about Saturday's Fight...
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on November 16, 2009, 09:18:29 AM
I didn't see it.  I only saw and heard the ESPN highlights.  Manny loves to swing.  That's for sure.  I'm not so sure that a strategy of winning by punch count is going to be effective against Mayweather.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on November 16, 2009, 09:26:52 AM
It will definetely be a biiiiggggg fight.  The real Question is will Mayweather take the fight.  We have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 16, 2009, 09:41:07 AM
It will definetely be a biiiiggggg fight.  The real Question is will Mayweather take the fight.  We have to wait and see.

If he doesn't take the fight, won't he always question if he was the greatest (no matter how times he'll say it out of his mouth)?



You know the media and the public will say he's a 'punk'.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on November 16, 2009, 10:04:32 AM
I didn't see it.  I only saw and heard the ESPN highlights.  Manny loves to swing.  That's for sure.  I'm not so sure that a strategy of winning by punch count is going to be effective against Mayweather.


...you see that's the thing.  It's like that Wii Sports Boxing; the first 4 to 5 fights you'll get away with throwing a lot of punches to knock your opponent out but that next fight you're faced with a skilled boxer and you get knocked out.  :D

It will definetely be a biiiiggggg fight.  The real Question is will Mayweather take the fight.  We have to wait and see.

You know the media and the public will say he's a 'punk'.


...he'll take the fight.  If not, he'll definetly go down as a punk.  I think that fight will be the biggest in the history of boxing. IMHO

...Pacman has got to work on his "d" or he'll end up like your boy Ricky. lol

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Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Incognegro on November 16, 2009, 10:06:17 AM
...he'll take the fight.  If not, he'll definetly go down as a punk.  I think that fight will be the biggest in the history of boxing. IMHO

Nooooo way.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on November 16, 2009, 10:11:38 AM
Nooooo way.

...are you being sarcastic over there RJ? lol 

...Dude, the first guy to defeat Mayweather and shut his mouth up will automatically become the first king of the U.S.A. lol  Pacquiao may very well be that guy but I actually think the guy to do it will probably be.....Shane Mosley.  That guy has been boxing beautifully lately.  That's just me though.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Incognegro on November 16, 2009, 10:55:53 AM
...are you being sarcastic over there RJ? lol 

Not at all!

Do you think

Mayweather vs Pacquiao

Will be bigger than

Ali vs Frazier I

or

Ali vs Frazier III

There's just no way.  I believe it will be the biggest RECENT fight though.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on November 16, 2009, 11:17:49 AM
Not at all!

Do you think

Mayweather vs Pacquiao

Will be bigger than

Ali vs Frazier I

or

Ali vs Frazier III

There's just no way.  I believe it will be the biggest RECENT fight though.


...you know, it may be man.  I mean, seriously, it may be.  Obama will probably be sitting next to the Phillipine government that night. lol
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 16, 2009, 11:21:38 AM

...you know, it may be man.  I mean, seriously, it may be.  Obama will probably be sitting next to the Phillipine government that night. lol

Meh.  :-\
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Incognegro on November 16, 2009, 11:26:55 AM
Do you think

Mayweather vs Pacquiao

Will be bigger than

Ali vs Frazier I

or

Ali vs Frazier III

...you know, it may be man.  I mean, seriously, it may be.

rly?  ok.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on November 16, 2009, 11:32:50 AM
...I have a question though, we all know that fight is the money fight but do you guys think Shane Mosley will be the one to defeat Floyd?  idk, I just don't see Manny defeating Mayweather.  :-\
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 16, 2009, 11:36:04 AM
...I have a question though, we all know that fight is the money fight but do you guys think Shane Mosley will be the one to defeat Floyd?  idk, I just don't see Manny defeating Mayweather.  :-\

Mosley's still boxing? :-\
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on November 16, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
Mosley's still boxing? :-\

...lol  Yes man.  I like Shane.  I've always liked his style. lol
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on November 16, 2009, 12:38:06 PM
...here yall go. 

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Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 16, 2009, 12:48:16 PM
Yo, your man is talkin' SO much trash. He was one sentence away from 'I'm so pretty; I'm a bad man!' :D :D :D

Tell you what, if they do fight, we need to get to a Dave & Busters and check it out.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on November 16, 2009, 12:54:24 PM
Yo, your man is talkin' SO much trash. He was one sentence away from 'I'm so pretty; I'm a bad man!' :D :D :D

Tell you what, if they do fight, we need to get to a Dave & Busters and check it out.

I would think it was trash talking also, IF it wasn't the truth. :)  The man makes some excellent points
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Incognegro on November 16, 2009, 01:12:18 PM
I would think it was trash talking also, IF it wasn't the trust. :)  The man makes some excellent points

He absolutely does.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 16, 2009, 02:12:57 PM
I would think it was trash talking also, IF it wasn't the truth. :)  The man makes some excellent points

He absolutely does.

Agreed. Don't mean he wasn't talkin' trash, though.  :D
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Incognegro on November 16, 2009, 02:20:51 PM
Agreed. Don't mean he wasn't talkin' trash, though.  :D

Oh he definitely was.

"Whatever I do to Pacquiao has already been done.  He's been beat on three occasions.  And if I knock him out I don't want the world to be shocked because he's been knocked out twice before, so it's nothing new."

 :D :D

That is some Grade A trash talking!
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 16, 2009, 02:21:29 PM
Oh he definitely was.

"Whatever I do to Pacquiao has already been done.  He's been beat on three occasions.  And if I knock him out I don't want the world to be shocked because he's been knocked out twice before, so it's nothing new."

 :D :D

That is some Grade A trash talking!
In. deed. :D
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: chevonee on November 16, 2009, 02:28:38 PM
Not at all!

Do you think

Mayweather vs Pacquiao

Will be bigger than

Ali vs Frazier I

or

Ali vs Frazier III

There's just no way.  I believe it will be the biggest RECENT fight though.
I agree!! I was sort of surprised that the Pacquiao vs Cotto fight drew as much attention, seeing how boxing has basically taken a back seat to MMA. Speaking of MMA did you guys hear about Brock Lesnar(sp?)?
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on November 16, 2009, 04:40:10 PM
Well here we go. Mayweather talkin' and everybody wants to drink the Kool-Aid.
 
In order to say a fighter is great, you not only have to look at his skills, but the opponents he has faced.

Floyd Mayweather is possibly the most skilled fighter is boxing, but it means nothing when he has ducked every real threat walking around in his division.

Who? Well when Margorito was knocking everybody out and calling for Money May, he didn't want any part of him. They had 8 million on the table. A ton of money even for Floyd... and nobody knew he was probably cheating at the time so I don't want to hear it.

Cotto was there beating everybody, but Floyd kept saying Cottos' name wasn't big enough... like Margorito.

I could go on with names like Mosely and Paul Williams, but I think you all get the point.

Pacman has faced the likes of Barrera, Morales, and Marques when these guys were in there prime. (All Hall of Famers) He just ripped through maybe the best welter weight in the division.

I said all of that to say this, Mayweather needs to shut up and fight somebody. If not Pacman than Mosley or step to Paul Williams and really get cracked.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on January 07, 2010, 08:23:59 PM
I said all of that to say this, Mayweather needs to shut up and fight somebody. If not Pacman than Mosley or step to Paul Williams and really get cracked.

Well, I'm kinda jumping on the bandwagon.  I'm now starting to believe that Mayweather doesn't want to fight the top competition.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 07, 2010, 08:24:28 PM
Well, I'm kinda jumping on the bandwagon.  I'm now starting to believe that Mayweather doesn't want to fight the top competition.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 08, 2010, 08:00:59 AM
Well, I'm kinda jumping on the bandwagon.  I'm now starting to believe that Mayweather doesn't want to fight the top competition.

And there will always be doubt about his pound-for-pound status until he does.  I REALLY wanna see this fight, but I don't think it will happen.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 08, 2010, 09:33:54 AM
This (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/34757140/ns/sports-other_sports/) article was written last night.

"Mayweather initially demanded repeated blood testing right up to the day of the fight, while Pacquiao asked for a 30-day cutoff before the bout. Mayweather now claims he agreed to a 14-day cutoff compromise before the mediation session began, but Pacquiao still wouldn’t accept those terms.

“The truth is he just doesn’t want to take the tests” Mayweather said."

Top Rank boss Bob Arum was brutally frank about his former fighter on Wednesday night, telling The Associated Press that Mayweather is “a psychological coward who doesn’t want to fight anybody who has a chance of beating him.”

Ouch.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on January 08, 2010, 10:15:18 AM
If you read my past responses, you can tell I was definetely in Mayweathers Camp, but now it does seem like he's dodging him.  From what I read, I think they do take blood "after" the bout so anything would be detected then.

If you are the best, you want to fight the best.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 08, 2010, 10:22:14 AM
If he doesn't take the fight, won't he always question if he was the greatest (no matter how times he'll say it out of his mouth)?



You know the media and the public will say he's a 'punk'.

Usually I have a disdain for repeating myself.  8)
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: joshuag on January 08, 2010, 02:22:08 PM
Hoping this match happens, it would be great for boxing and boxing fans!!!!!
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on January 08, 2010, 02:41:35 PM
I just saw on ESPN news that Pacman has just agreed to fight Joshua Clottey on the same date (March 13th).

This could be a dangerous fight even for Pacman. I've followed Clottey for a few years now and he is a very good and hungry fighter. He's a very big welterweght with a defense that rivals Mayweather beleive it or not.

I'm still hoping Pacman and Mayweather will come to some type of agreement, but if they don't Pacman has already agreed to fight top notch competion in the division.

Let's see who Mayweather hand picks now.  :D
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: jjblack on January 11, 2010, 01:16:31 PM
Clottey lost to Cotto who was destroyed by Pacman.

Fortune cookie says: "There will be a boring ten round fight in your future."
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 11, 2010, 01:19:14 PM
Clottey lost to Cotto who was destroyed by Pacman.

Fortune cookie says: "There will be a boring fight scheduled for ten rounds in your future."


Minor adjustment made.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on January 12, 2010, 08:35:54 AM
All of Mayweather's talk will now fall on deaths ears.  Pacman has shown that he wants to mix it up, but all Mayweather is doing is talking, blaming and doing more talking.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on January 12, 2010, 04:53:13 PM
Well as for Pacman vs. Clottey being a boring fight... think about it. When is the last time you've seen a boring fight from Pacman. Also I see this as a more dangerous fight for Manny than Mayweather.

If Mayweather has any weakness it seems to be that he lacks that "killer instinct". He is known for getting in the ring with lesser opponents and simply not finishing them off and letting them hang around. He's content with pitty-patting his opponents all 12 rounds. This style is more favorable to Pacman... and styles make fights.

Now Pacman is about to fight Clottey, who is a guy that can probably fight at close to 160lbs. I still have not seen anyone hurt him... not even ole' concrete fist Margorito. This guy either wins his fights or pushes his opponents to the limit.

I'm picking Manny to win the fight, but I have my concerns and would not be surprised if he lost.

If you're looking for a boring fight wait for Money Mays' next hand pick.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: chevonee on January 12, 2010, 08:12:29 PM
All of Mayweather's talk will now fall on deaths ears.  Pacman has shown that he wants to mix it up, but all Mayweather is doing is talking, blaming and doing more talking.
My sentiments exactly!
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on January 13, 2010, 07:42:12 AM
All of Mayweather's talk will now fall on deaths ears.  Pacman has shown that he wants to mix it up, but all Mayweather is doing is talking, blaming and doing more talking.

...I seriously want Shane Mosley to buy some air-time on NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS, ESPN or Nickelodeon and challenge Mayweather.  I know that Shane can take the dodgeball champ down like the punk he is.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 13, 2010, 07:50:23 AM
Also I see this as a more dangerous fight for Manny than Mayweather.




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Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on January 13, 2010, 08:29:28 AM
Well as for Pacman vs. Clottey being a boring fight... think about it. When is the last time you've seen a boring fight from Pacman. Also I see this as a more dangerous fight for Manny than Mayweather.

I wouldn't say more dangerous, but he's a good opponent.  He's fighting a worthy opponent and not just some chump to get a payday.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 13, 2010, 08:40:15 AM
I wouldn't say more dangerous, but he's a good opponent.  He's fighting a worthy opponent and not just some chump to get a payday.

Yea.  Say what you want about Pac, but he's no coward.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on January 13, 2010, 05:23:28 PM
Well I don't expect many people, if anyone, to see where I'm coming from with Clottey being a more dangerous fight. I'm just a pretty firm believer that styles make fights and I think this fight will be closer than people think.

...and JFunky...The Dodge Ball Champ...  :D priceless. I'm using that one.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: jjblack on January 14, 2010, 02:04:00 PM
Clottey will be dangerous. He doesn't quit and he doesn't fall down, so it will be a longer fight than many think... boring fight... but a long fight.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on January 19, 2010, 03:49:41 PM
Well I guess everyone heard that the Berto vs. Mosely fight is off because Berto has lost family members in the earthquake in Haiti.

I hate that it happened this way but this does open the door for a Mayweather vs. Mosely fight. So I was wondering...

1. Do you think the fight will happen? I know which one of them wants this fight real bad.

2. If Floyd works his way out if this fight how do you think this will effect his legacy? This is the only logical opponent for Floyd.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 19, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
Well I guess everyone heard that the Berto vs. Mosely fight is off because Berto has lost family members in the earthquake in Haiti.

I hate that it happened this way but this does open the door for a Mayweather vs. Mosely fight. So I was wondering...

1. Do you think the fight will happen? I know which one of them wants this fight real bad.

2. If Floyd works his way out if this fight how do you think this will effect his legacy? This is the only logical opponent for Floyd.

Floyd has a MasterLock on that door.  It won't happen.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on January 21, 2010, 11:42:30 AM
...okay.  This has stirred up quite a bit of talk at my job.  I don't know if the fight is official yet but here we go:  Do you think that Mayweather will dodge Mosley to now go on T.V. and state that he'll fight the winner of Pacquiao vs. Clottey?

...btw, I think that the Pac vs. Clottey fight will be a very good fight to watch because its going to actually be a fight and not a Nascar race. lol 
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: phbrown on May 21, 2010, 07:57:11 AM
So the Pacman Agrees to random blood test up to 14 days before the fight?!?!

http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/pac-agrees-to-14-day-floyd-is-cornered-again/ (http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/pac-agrees-to-14-day-floyd-is-cornered-again/)

Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on May 21, 2010, 08:12:00 AM
So the Pacman Agrees to random blood test up to 14 days before the fight?!?!

[url]http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/pac-agrees-to-14-day-floyd-is-cornered-again/[/url] ([url]http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/pac-agrees-to-14-day-floyd-is-cornered-again/[/url])


I was going to say the article seems to imply that Floyd is duckin' The Pacman.


But, the article isn't implying, is it? Nor, have any of the Mayweather detractors.  :-\ :D
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on May 21, 2010, 08:16:39 AM
I was going to say the article seems to imply that Floyd is duckin' The Pacman.


But, the article isn't implying, is it? Nor, have any of the Mayweather detractors.  :-\ :D
Yeah, I caught the un-implied implication.  All I can say is, we'll see.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on May 21, 2010, 10:34:00 AM
"Many boxing insiders are convinced Mayweather demanded the extra testing above and beyond what is required according to the Nevada State Commission, as a scheme designed to cancel the highly risky though lucrative duel with Pacquiao because he secretly fears being brutally beaten up and knocked out by the Filippino marvel."



This guy should write comic books.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on May 21, 2010, 10:41:46 AM
This guy should write comic books.

...or work for the National Enquirer. lol
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on May 21, 2010, 10:42:02 AM
Well since Pacquiao won a seat in congress it may all be mute. Their actor/politicians continue to make movies and novellas on a reduced schedule but I don't know if a world class athlete can maintain his training schedule with his national legislative duties.
From what I hear, the whole country shuts down whenever he fights anyway.  I'm sure his schedule will be accomodating.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on May 21, 2010, 10:45:29 AM
Well since Pacquiao won a seat in congress it may all be mute. Their actor/politicians continue to make movies and novellas on a reduced schedule but I don't know if a world class athlete can maintain his training schedule with his national legislative duties.

Stop right there!  If Pacquiao loses, it won't be because his "political career" (::)) didn't afford him time to train.  He's a hero in his home country because he's a great boxer.  He will be allowed aaaaaaall the time he wants to train.  If he loses it will be because he wasn't the better fighter on that night.

You may now resume your regulary scheduled programming.   :D
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on May 21, 2010, 10:47:45 AM
Stop right there!  If Pacquiao loses, it won't be because his "political career" (::)) didn't afford him time to train.  He's a hero in his home country because he's a great boxer.  He will be allowed aaaaaaall the time he wants to train.  If he loses it will be because he wasn't the better fighter on that night.

You may now resume your regulary scheduled programming.   :D

*regularly






...figured I'd catch it before Sjon does.   :D
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on May 21, 2010, 11:15:59 AM
From what I hear, the whole country shuts down whenever he fights anyway.  I'm sure his schedule will be accomodating.

This.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: cordney on November 14, 2010, 12:30:18 AM
Manny looked real good on offense and lil suspect on defense...even tho, Margarito didn't hit him as much as I thought he did.  Manny admitted to being hurt in the fight.  After tonight's performance, I may change my stand on Mayweather/Pacquaio!  I still feel Floyd is the better fighter but I can see why he might be ducking Manny  :-\ :-\.  I pray that this fight happens sometime next year.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 14, 2010, 11:21:26 AM
Manny looked real good on offense and lil suspect on defense...even tho, Margarito didn't hit him as much as I thought he did.  Manny admitted to being hurt in the fight.  After tonight's performance, I may change my stand on Mayweather/Pacquaio!  I still feel Floyd is the better fighter but I can see why he might be ducking Manny  :-\ :-\.  I pray that this fight happens sometime next year.

Might be?  ::) :-\
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: phbrown on November 14, 2010, 02:11:28 PM
the dodgeball champ
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on November 15, 2010, 08:57:42 AM
Might be?  ::) :-\

IS!

I still the Floyd would win, but it would be a battle.  It just seems Floyd doesn't want to go to war.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 15, 2010, 09:06:37 AM
If Floyd saw the fight on Saturday, he's going to want Manny to take more than a blood test.  He'll ask for a DNA test, and pregnancy test, an I.Q. test, ANYTHING to get out of fighting him.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on November 15, 2010, 12:01:17 PM
With Floyd's mounting legal issues, I doubt a fight is going to happen anytime soon anyway, even if he weren't dodging.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: b3wannab on November 15, 2010, 01:23:22 PM
I was going to say the article seems to imply that Floyd is duckin' The Pacman.

sjon, c'mon playa.

IS!

 It just seems Floyd doesn't want to go to war.

4, you don't really ba-leeb dis du you? The only thing Mayweathers' are good at is fighting! :D

If Floyd saw the fight on Saturday, he's going to want Manny to take more than a blood test.  He'll ask for a DNA test, and pregnancy test, an I.Q. test, ANYTHING to get out of fighting him.

You's a funny man RJ, er, A.F., but you KNOW da tru-f!

With Floyd's mounting legal issues, I doubt a fight is going to happen anytime soon anyway, even if he weren't dodging.

Et tu, LL? :'(

I dun tole y'all, Floyd is just looking for one more payday before he retires for real.  He's going to hype this one up as long as he can to make as much as he can, then he'll go saddown.  
But I do think LL is correct in that Floyd's legal issues will be the only thing to stop this fight. ;)
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: cordney on November 15, 2010, 06:01:09 PM
If Floyd saw the fight on Saturday, he's going to want Manny to take more than a blood test.  He'll ask for a DNA test, and pregnancy test, an I.Q. test, ANYTHING to get out of fighting him.

Margarito looked real slow in this fight!
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on November 16, 2010, 08:41:40 AM
Margarito looked real slow in this fight!

...yeah and he's in the Surgery room this morning.  Joka has facial fractures.  :o

...that fight was disgusting to watch in HD. lol  The camera man just had to get a close up shot of his face in between rounds. LOL
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on November 16, 2010, 03:40:55 PM
The only person left for Manny, other than Floyd, could be the winner of the Williams vs Martinez fight this Saturday.

I realize that it's a stretch but there's no one else.

His accomplishments already have him in a class by himself. As much as I want to see the dream fight, I can be content knowing that I witnessed greatness that may not ever be matched again.

In my opinion Floyd needs this fight for his legacy FAR more than Manny.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: cordney on November 16, 2010, 04:22:10 PM
In my opinion Floyd needs this fight for his legacy FAR more than Manny.

How?!!! ?/?
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 16, 2010, 04:28:53 PM
How?!!! ?/?

In one way, I'd say he needs to take this fight to show folks that he ISN'T scared of Manny.

In my mind, he's a coward and that will be his legacy to me. *kanyeshrug*
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 17, 2010, 05:48:45 AM
In my opinion Floyd needs this fight for his legacy FAR more than Manny.

I don't know about 'FAR' more.

Being an undefeated champion says something.  Floyd is ducking Manny, but unlike what many say, Floyd has beaten some VERY good fighters.

He beat Oscar De La Hoya when Oscar was still a champion.

He beat a heralded and previous undefeated Ricky Hatton.

He beat a revitalized Shane Mosely.


Unfortunately for Floyd, after he demolished those fighters people suddenly said: "Hey those guys were old/bums anyway".

Sadly being undefeated means so much to Floyd that he's ducking Manny.  I say 'sadly' because I believe he would win and I KNOW it would be an amazing fight.  It would be boxing's first superfight in years.  Also, as sjon pointed out, Floyd is giving off the aura of being afraid.  NOT a good look in combat sports (boxing, MMA).
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on November 17, 2010, 07:27:52 AM
...I guess Pacquiao has Mayweather so scarred that he's out committing stupid crimes to use Prison as his ultimate dodging act.  :-\

...I bet all the kids wanted Floyd on their team when they played dodgeball at school.  That was a guaranteed win. lol
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 17, 2010, 07:56:12 AM
...I bet all the kids wanted Floyd on their team when they played dodgeball at school.  That was a guaranteed win.

Bravo!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on November 17, 2010, 02:59:25 PM
I don't know about 'FAR' more.

Being an undefeated champion says something.  Floyd is ducking Manny, but unlike what many say, Floyd has beaten some VERY good fighters.

He beat Oscar De La Hoya when Oscar was still a champion.

He beat a heralded and previous undefeated Ricky Hatton.

He beat a revitalized Shane Mosely.


Unfortunately for Floyd, after he demolished those fighters people suddenly said: "Hey those guys were old/bums anyway".

Sadly being undefeated means so much to Floyd that he's ducking Manny.  I say 'sadly' because I believe he would win and I KNOW it would be an amazing fight.  It would be boxing's first superfight in years.  Also, as sjon pointed out, Floyd is giving off the aura of being afraid.  NOT a good look in combat sports (boxing, MMA).

You have pretty much made my point. It's just my opinion but it seems to me that Floyd has made a career of hand picking opponents.

Most Mayweather fans have trouble naming 5 decent fighters that he has faced and although being undefeated says a lot it doesn't mean everything.

Manny has consistently sought out the best in every division. So even if he fought Williams or Martinez and lost a close fight it would still add to his legacy. He has shown himself to be a warrior as well as a humanitarian and may soon be his country's president.

I know he wants to fight Floyd but does he really need him at this point  :-\  I think not.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 17, 2010, 03:34:16 PM
Most Mayweather fans have trouble naming 5 decent fighters that he has faced...

Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Márquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
Zab Judah
Arturo Gatti
Diego Corrales
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: cordney on November 17, 2010, 03:53:15 PM
Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Márquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
Zab Judah
Arturo Gatti
Diego Corrales

People forget about Diego Corrales, I believe he was undefeated at the time they fought.  I think he also fought Rickey and De La Hoya before Manny.  The critics turn to Sugar Shane and said, "He was too strong and just as fast as Floyd!"  When Floyd beat him...they said, "He fought an old Sugar Shane!"  Well that was the same Sugar Shane that destroyed the same person Manny fought this past Saturday.  For any boxers to be undefeated after 41 fights...that's impressive!
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on November 17, 2010, 05:01:49 PM
Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Márquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
Zab Judah
Arturo Gatti
Diego Corrales

The key word is "most". Most people that I deal with are not boxing fans and it gets frustrating debating the sport.

I just feel like Manny has always sought the best. Multiple fights against Barrera, Morales, and Marquez. Retires Hatton and a washed up De La Hoya. (Yes he was washed up for Manny and Floyd. Oscar is an all time great but he was on a money grabbing mission his last few years in the game.)

He may have just retired another fighter that he gave up 15 plus pounds to.

Basically he's fighting on such a high level that even if Floyd is not scared to fight him, he feels that Manny has to be on something illegal.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: cordney on November 17, 2010, 06:06:46 PM

Basically he's fighting on such a high level that even if Floyd is not scared to fight him, he feels that Manny has to be on something illegal.


Then agree to Olympic style testing!!! :-\ :-\ :-\ *Kobe shrug*
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on November 17, 2010, 06:41:32 PM
Then agree to Olympic style testing!!! :-\ :-\ :-\ *Kobe shrug*

I really think it's more about principle. To ask, no, demand that a guy do something that no other fighter in boxing history was required to do probably made Manny feel some kinda way. I've heard Roy Jones and Winkie Wright say that they understand where Manny stands on his position.

If Manny is using, and I don't believe he is, he will be found out. He's agreed to testing up to 2 weeks before the fight and they always draw blood in the locker room directly after the fight.

It's kinda like when that congressman called for a few big time pastors to open up all of their books. I think Creflo Dollar was 1 of them. I don't believe the congressman got his wish. Not because they were trying to hide anything but because he had no authority to make such a demand. Get it?   ;)
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 18, 2010, 08:15:08 AM
I really think it's more about principle. To ask, no, demand that a guy do something that no other fighter in boxing history was required to do   probably made Manny feel some kinda way. I've heard Roy Jones and Winkie Wright say that they understand where Manny stands on his position.

If Manny is using, and I don't believe he is, he will be found out. He's agreed to testing up to 2 weeks before the fight and they always draw blood in the locker room directly after the fight.

It's kinda like when that congressman called for a few big time pastors to open up all of their books. I think Creflo Dollar was 1 of them. I don't believe the congressman got his wish. Not because they were trying to hide anything but because he had no authority to make such a demand. Get it?   ;)


So what's his excuse now? (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5006342)
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: cordney on November 18, 2010, 09:48:28 AM
So what's his excuse now? ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5006342[/url])


I thank RJ for presenting exhibit A...lol
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on November 18, 2010, 12:48:29 PM
...we all know that as soon as Pacquiao starts landing blows and Floyd's baby face starts looking like Margarito's his crazy uncle and probably even Predator or Tales from the Crypt Floyd Sr. will get in the ring and choke the life out of Pacman like they did Zab. lol

...I think this is the Greatest Fight no one will ever get to see.  :-\   
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 18, 2010, 12:53:48 PM
...we all know that as soon as IF Pacquiao starts landing blows and Floyd's baby face starts looking like Margarito's his crazy uncle and probably even Predator or Tales from the Crypt Floyd Sr. will get in the ring and choke the life out of Pacman like they did Zab. lol

...I think this is the Greatest Fight no one will ever get to see.  :-\   

Fixed.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: chevonee on November 18, 2010, 02:26:07 PM
Ummm I can't believe Bernard Hopkins gone start running his mouth on this Pacman issue. I don't think that neither of these guys can really be call "the best pound for pound boxer" without having faced each other. Every fight that takes place before these guys fight is going to be a joke...IMO. I could've fought Pacman better than Margaritta (sp?)..He looked like he needed a Margaritta by the time he left the ring.. :o :o :o
If Floyd saw the fight on Saturday, he's going to want Manny to take more than a blood test.  He'll ask for a DNA test, and pregnancy test, an I.Q. test, ANYTHING to get out of fighting him.
Amen!!
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on November 18, 2010, 04:13:02 PM
I thank RJ for presenting exhibit A...lol

Cordney you do realize that article backs Manny more than Floyd right?

I stated in my previous post that Manny has agreed to testing up to 2 weeks before the fight. (Olympic style) That's exactly what Floyd demands according to the article in the link. (7th paragraph)

If I misunderstood you... my bad. But if not. What will be Floyd's next excuse.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 18, 2010, 05:16:41 PM
Cordney you do realize that article backs Manny more than Floyd right?

I stated in my previous post that Manny has agreed to testing up to 2 weeks before the fight. (Olympic style) That's exactly what Floyd demands according to the article in the link. (7th paragraph)

If I misunderstood you... my bad. But if not. What will be Floyd's next excuse.

I thank thunderkat for presenting Exhibit B.  :D
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on November 18, 2010, 05:37:42 PM
I thank thunderkat for presenting Exhibit B.  :D

Not a problem sir.   :)
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: phbrown on June 15, 2011, 01:15:51 PM
I heard that roach said this fight might happen in 2012 because mayweather's most recent opponent is similar to the Pacman
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: phbrown on June 15, 2011, 01:18:45 PM
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NEW YORK -- Freddie Roach believes that Floyd Mayweather Jr. could be preparing for a long-awaited showdown with Manny Pacquiao by returning to the ring in September.

The trainer of the Filipino sensation told The Associated Press in a phone interview on Wednesday that he thinks Mayweather has agreed to fight young welterweight titleholder Victor Ortiz because it would help get him ready for a fight against Pacquiao.

Ortiz and Pacquiao are both fast, high-volume punchers, and they're also left-handers.

The undefeated Mayweather, who will be ending a 16-month layoff, has rarely fought left-handed opponents. The few he has, such as Zab Judah, have given him some trouble.

Pacquiao is scheduled to fight Juan Manuel Marquez in November.


http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=6641813 (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=6641813)
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on June 15, 2011, 01:28:21 PM
I heard that roach said this fight might happen in 2012 because mayweather's most recent opponent is similar to the Pacman

It would be the biggest fight the sport has seen in at least 10yrs.

...if it ever happens.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: cordney on June 15, 2011, 01:40:19 PM
I think my initial stance on this subject has changed...lol.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: chevonee on June 15, 2011, 02:13:52 PM
It would be the biggest fight the sport has seen in at least 10yrs.

...if it ever happens.
I agree!! It would definitely put boxing back on the map...fa'sho! ;)
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on June 15, 2011, 02:23:58 PM
I agree!! It would definitely put boxing back on the map...fa'sho! ;)

Yea.  It would be ALL OVER SportsCenter.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Tiptip357 on June 15, 2011, 02:24:55 PM
I think my initial stance on this subject has changed...lol.

Stance?! I ain't got no stance! Now, I'm laying down. I'll get up when something happens...2012 my left pinky toe...
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on June 15, 2011, 02:27:15 PM
Please refrain from opening this thread UNTIL a date is reached.





Which means this thread dies. *kanyeshrug*
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: chevonee on June 15, 2011, 02:50:14 PM
Stance?! I ain't got no stance! Now, I'm laying down. I'll get up when something happens...2012 my left pinky toe...
LOL :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: phbrown on November 13, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/938227-pacquiao-vs-marquez-results-close-fight-proves-mayweather-would-destroy-pac-man (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/938227-pacquiao-vs-marquez-results-close-fight-proves-mayweather-would-destroy-pac-man)

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Manny Pacquiao is no match for Floyd Mayweather. After struggling to a close, and controversial, decision victory over Juan Marquez it is evident that Pacquiao could not handle Money May.

 

Review of Results

Pacquiao has now fought Marquez three times. All fights have went the distance, and all were close. Pacquiao is 2-0-1 against Marquez, but neither of these fights were decisive. All deserved to end in a draw.

Meanwhile, Mayweather has fought Marquez one time, and he destroyed him. That fight also went the distance, but it wasn't even close. Mayweather won every round.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: cordney on November 13, 2011, 08:25:19 AM
After last night's performance, Manny should be 1-1-1 in his last three fights against Marquez
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 13, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
Please refrain from opening this thread UNTIL a date is reached.





Which means this thread dies. *kanyeshrug*
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: phbrown on November 13, 2011, 02:42:10 PM
Please refrain from opening this thread UNTIL a date is reached.





Which means this thread dies. *kanyeshrug*


ROFL!!!
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on November 13, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
*bump*

*snicker*
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: phbrown on November 13, 2011, 07:53:47 PM
*bump*

*snicker*



(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1965/slowpokeic.jpg)
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 14, 2011, 09:41:44 AM
[url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/938227-pacquiao-vs-marquez-results-close-fight-proves-mayweather-would-destroy-pac-man[/url] ([url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/938227-pacquiao-vs-marquez-results-close-fight-proves-mayweather-would-destroy-pac-man[/url])


Pacquiao vs Marquez results prove Mayweather would destroy Pacman?

STYLES make fights. 

If 'Figher A' can defeat 'Fighter B', and 'Fighter B' can defeat 'Fighter C', that DOESN'T MEAN 'Fighter A' can defeat 'Fighter C'.

Ali and Frazier fought 3 times.  Ali won two of them and all three were very close fights.

Ali and Foreman fought once and Ali knocked him out in the eighth.

Foreman fought Frazier twice.  Foreman absolutely demolished him the first time by knocking him down six times before it was stopped.  The second time it was stopped again.



Mayweather destroying Pacquiao would prove Mayweather can destroy Pacquiao.  Nothing else.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: phbrown on January 04, 2013, 07:45:57 PM
maybe mayweather will agree to the fight now that

http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/doctor-manny-pacquiao-may-be-showing-signs-of-early-parkinsons-disease/related/ (http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/doctor-manny-pacquiao-may-be-showing-signs-of-early-parkinsons-disease/related/)

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Doctor: Manny Pacquiao may be showing signs of early Parkinson’s Disease
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on January 04, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
maybe mayweather will agree to the fight now that

[url]http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/doctor-manny-pacquiao-may-be-showing-signs-of-early-parkinsons-disease/related/[/url] ([url]http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/doctor-manny-pacquiao-may-be-showing-signs-of-early-parkinsons-disease/related/[/url])


I think Manny taking a nap on pay-per-view would be more motivation.  lol

Doesn't matter to me.  I'll always think of Floyd as a chicken now anyway.  If you'll only take a fight after you KNOW you'll win, what good is a perfect record?

Ali NEVER ducked an opponent.  He didn't just talk big.  He was willing to fight anybody and honestly believed he'd win.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: thunderkat on January 04, 2013, 09:36:59 PM
I think Manny taking a nap on pay-per-view would be more motivation.  lol

Doesn't matter to me.  I'll always think of Floyd as a chicken now anyway.  If you'll only take a fight after you KNOW you'll win, what good is a perfect record?

Ali NEVER ducked an opponent.  He didn't just talk big.  He was willing to fight anybody and honestly believed he'd win.

I completely agree bro. Although Manny took that nap, I think all the Manny haters need to realize something.

Manny got in the ring 4 times with somebody that he knew full well could beat him in any given fight. That's heart. And, it shows how he would rather gain his respect by fighting the most worthy opponents. Imagine Floyd doing that... yeah right.

Also it seemed like all the people that were glad to see him get knocked out over looked the worst part of everything. The fact that the entire boxing community got robbed of what may have been the fight of the last 2 decades. Manny vs Floyd
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: cordney on February 18, 2013, 07:05:08 PM
I completely agree bro. Although Manny took that nap, I think all the Manny haters need to realize something.

Manny got in the ring 4 times with somebody that he knew full well could beat him in any given fight. That's heart. And, it shows how he would rather gain his respect by fighting the most worthy opponents. Imagine Floyd doing that... yeah right.

Also it seemed like all the people that were glad to see him get knocked out over looked the worst part of everything. The fact that the entire boxing community got robbed of what may have been the fight of the last 2 decades. Manny vs Floyd

You know Floyd destroyed Marquez...the same guy that beat Pac Man.  I'm not taking up for Mayweather, but not get careless and say he only fights bums.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: phbrown on January 14, 2015, 08:28:43 PM
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12164550/manny-pacquiao-agrees-terms-fight-floyd-mayweather (http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12164550/manny-pacquiao-agrees-terms-fight-floyd-mayweather)
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: jonesl78 on January 19, 2015, 08:12:09 PM
I'll believe it when the actual fight happens.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Hasmonean1 on January 20, 2015, 07:01:37 AM
It won't mean the same as if they had fought 5 years ago should Floyd win.  It would mean everything Pacman should he win.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on January 20, 2015, 10:16:57 AM
It's certainly going to be a big payday for all involved.  I wish they had fought long before this though...Assuming the fight actually happens.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: phbrown on February 20, 2015, 06:38:33 PM
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12355361/floyd-mayweather-announces-fight-manny-pacquiao-set-2 (http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12355361/floyd-mayweather-announces-fight-manny-pacquiao-set-2)

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At long last, pound-for-pound greats Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao will fight.

Yes, the fight that looms as one of the most anticipated in boxing history is finally on.

For more than five years sports fans have clamored for a summit meeting between the two best fighters in the world and after various failed negotiations -- and a protracted and difficult effort to make the fight in recent months -- they will get it on May 2 to unify their welterweight world titles at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on February 22, 2015, 10:50:59 PM
No Pac-Man, beat. his. tail.
Title: Re: Boxing: Pacman vs. Mayweather
Post by: Hasmonean1 on February 23, 2015, 03:45:33 AM
They waited too long for me to even think about spending money on the fight.  Mayweather should win.