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Main => Gospel Music Lounge => Topic started by: baggettcindy on November 26, 2009, 01:43:48 PM
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I don't if this has already been posted, but it was sent to me from someone at my church.......
Oprah Winfrey: Jesus Did Not Come To Die On The Cross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM5ILOsHLnw&feature=email#)
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I don't even want to see this. The title is making me mad as it is. Oprah needs to go somewhere.
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This is why I stopped watching Oprah a while back (except for the whitney and mike tyson shows). I don't truly know what her belief is but when you start contradicting the bible....I don't care to hear anything else you have to say.
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Does this have anything to do with the announcement of her pending retirement? Although I highly respect her for her business savvy, Oprah has nothing to do with my salvation. She's not a minister, she hosts a talk show. If anybody changed their views because Oprah said it, that's on them, not Oprah.
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Does this have anything to do with the announcement of her pending retirement? Although I highly respect her for her business savvy, Oprah has nothing to do with my salvation. She's not a minister, she hosts a talk show. If anybody changed their views because Oprah said it, that's on them, not Oprah.
This.
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Does this have anything to do with the announcement of her pending retirement? Although I highly respect her for her business savvy, Oprah has nothing to do with my salvation. She's not a minister, she hosts a talk show. If anybody changed their views because Oprah said it, that's on them, not Oprah.
Close thread!
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I don't even want to see this. The title is making me mad as it is. Oprah needs to go somewhere.
I was thinking the same thing. She's ....... :-X
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I was thinking the same thing. She's ....... :-X
...lost! :-\
Pray for her & all the people she has influence over!
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i never, ever thought that i would be typing something support oprah or any other talk host for that matter. i watched half of this and my thought was, so what? what did you expect? it is her's and everyone else choice if not right to believe what they believe. i share my faith with them. they either believe or don't.
it's oprah so now it's a big deal. all the ominous music behind some sound bites taken over many years. i support her and anyone else right to voice whatever they feel. i might not agree, but i support their right. i expect sin from sinners. oprah said it, big deal.
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i never, ever thought that i would be typing something support oprah or any other talk host for that matter. i watched half of this and my thought was, so what? what did you expect? it is her's and everyone else choice if not right to believe what they believe. i share my faith with them. they either believe or don't.
it's oprah so now it's a big deal. all the ominous music behind some sound bites taken over many years. i support her and anyone else right to voice whatever they feel. i might not agree, but i support their right. i expect sin from sinners. oprah said it, big deal.
This.
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I expect sin from sinners.
Pretty much.
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it's oprah so now it's a big deal. all the ominous music behind some sound bites taken over many years. i support her and anyone else right to voice whatever they feel. i might not agree, but i support their right. i expect sin from sinners. oprah said it, big deal.
I didnt watch the video, but i think the problem is that Oprah is so influential to not only millions of women, but millions of Christian women. Thats probably why its a big deal.
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I don't follow her teachings.....I just thought what she said was interesting cuz it was so far off....nothing else.
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I believe when someone has a following like Oprah people can be easily persuaded to what ever she says. I mean just look at anything she mentions that sales out in a matter of hours.
For some reason it does bother me that people could be swayed on their beliefs of Jesus and God because Oprah says something different than the bible. I guess that's why people have to stay studied in the word and know when things aren't quite true.
As Christians we have to kind of look out for one another, dont' we :-\??? And even for those who may not have the same beliefs......
I mean I don't think Oprahs gonna start some large cult....... and move to some island............ and start calling herself Jesus :D..................... :-\.
Something to think about huh...lol
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Well she did endorse this New Age guy and have shows promoting his book and his beliefs.
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I don't follow her teachings.....I just thought what she said was interesting cuz it was so far off....nothing else.
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i wasn't directing at you in specific. in general people tend to go on tangents about anything she or any other celebrity says. in my world it's another person with and opinion. a wrong one, but one nonetheless.
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I didnt watch the video, but i think the problem is that Oprah is so influential to not only millions of women, but millions of Christian women. Thats probably why its a big deal.
if she can influence "christian women" that Jesus didn't come to die on the cross, they were not christian women at all.
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WORD repeats in many of NEW TESTAMENT writers about "in last days many anti-christs will arise,lead Many Astray!!!!!!!warnings about false apostles,workers of iniquity" who lead silly women captive in their sins.I would include "lead many silly men also"!
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WORD repeats in many of NEW TESTAMENT writers about "in last days many anti-christs will arise,lead Many Astray!!!!!!!warnings about false apostles,workers of iniquity" who lead silly women captive in their sins.I would include "lead many silly men also"!
Then forget about Oprah and focus on the actual church.
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ok, so i finally watched it, and i'm seeing a potential witch hunt.
1. So oprah said whatever people thinks she said. Big Whoop. she aint the author of my faith. Ninjas be ackin like she the pope.
2. in i dont hear her negating Jesus sacrifice, but moreso choosing to focus on his paradigm while He walked the Earth, referred to the "Christ consciousness", hmm, sounds like "kingdom thinking" to me.
3. at 1:07, she prefaces her statements with, "what I hear you say is...." she is making note of the fact that this is what the author is saying.
4. regarding the "one way" thing, well, there ARE MANY ways to LIVE, and MANY ways man will be able to see God, but only ONE WAY by which he will say "well done, my good and faithful servant." errybody that finally sees Him, wont necessarily have a happy ending.
5. re: god in man's image, first, she was reading what someone else wrote, and she said, "that's how i felt", not that's how i FEEL. Does she feel like that now? i dunno, i forgot to ask her at thE tea party.
<t-block, put me in Gb rite quick...>
6. Looking at Jesus differenly: Well, too many people seem to like the romanticized "beat-to-a-pulp-stuck-up-on-a-cross-Jesus".
I choose to revel in the "master-teacher-while-on-the-earth-Jesus",
the "He-man-kick-down-the-gates-of-hell-keys-snatchin-Jesus",
the "fulfiller-of-the-promise-Jesus",
the "advocate-to-the-Father-Jesus"
the"holy-ghost'-dispatching-Jesus"
So, looking at him different aint so bad.
i do believe that she is treading dangerous ground, and those that dont THINK FOR THEMSELVES, could be misled, BUT, people shouldnt look to a TALK SHOW HOST for spurchal guidance. Big mistake.
Make sure your house is clean, and invite the people over thereby to see a clean house, instead of worryin about somebody else's venetian blinds..(not directed at any one here, but moreso those that feel the 'burning need' to expose "the anti-christ that is Oprah".)
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I didnt watch the video, but i think the problem is that Oprah is so influential to not only millions of women, but millions of Christian women. Thats probably why its a big deal.
If they are true Christians this will have no effect.. There is nothing that I can conceive of that would make me not believe what I know to be true.. The universe declares his glory for sure.. and the Hebrew scriptures SCREAM the salvation we received on the cross.. from the holidays to construction of the tabernacle of Moses.. to the prophets.. to the thousands who saw him after he was killed. Even if it had all been a "passover plot" and he didn't really die on the cross .. ( as if... ::))just from what we know about the scourgings that the Romans gave.. he certainly wouldn't have been up and walking about without a mark on his body from the beatings he took.. and mind you he got beaten more than once.. so all this testifies to what we as true believers know to be true.. so whatever Oprah thinks, if it is contrary to those truths, will only mislead those who are already dead. If you aren't a Christian then this all fits right in with your world view.. but if you are the this is just another statement from a misguided rich chick ... I'll pray for her.. because all her money don't mean squat if she believes what she says and dies with it...
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ok, so i finally watched it, and i'm seeing a potential witch hunt.
1. So oprah said whatever people thinks she said. Big Whoop. she aint the author of my faith. Ninjas be ackin like she the pope.
2. in i dont hear her negating Jesus sacrifice, but moreso choosing to focus on his paradigm while He walked the Earth, referred to the "Christ consciousness", hmm, sounds like "kingdom thinking" to me.
3. at 1:07, she prefaces her statements with, "what I hear you say is...." she is making note of the fact that this is what the author is saying.
4. regarding the "one way" thing, well, there ARE MANY ways to LIVE, and MANY ways man will be able to see God, but only ONE WAY by which he will say "well done, my good and faithful servant." errybody that finally sees Him, wont necessarily have a happy ending.
5. re: god in man's image, first, she was reading what someone else wrote, and she said, "that's how i felt", not that's how i FEEL. Does she feel like that now? i dunno, i forgot to ask her at thE tea party.
<t-block, put me in Gb rite quick...>
6. Looking at Jesus differenly: Well, too many people seem to like the romanticized "beat-to-a-pulp-stuck-up-on-a-cross-Jesus".
I choose to revel in the "master-teacher-while-on-the-earth-Jesus",
the "He-man-kick-down-the-gates-of-hell-keys-snatchin-Jesus",
the "fulfiller-of-the-promise-Jesus",
the "advocate-to-the-Father-Jesus"
the"holy-ghost'-dispatching-Jesus"
So, looking at him different aint so bad.
i do believe that she is treading dangerous ground, and those that dont THINK FOR THEMSELVES, could be misled, BUT, people shouldnt look to a TALK SHOW HOST for spurchal guidance. Big mistake.
Make sure your house is clean, and invite the people over thereby to see a clean house, instead of worryin about somebody else's venetian blinds..(not directed at any one here, but moreso those that feel the 'burning need' to expose "the anti-christ that is Oprah".)
TROOF!!!!
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I thought Oprah was new age anyway?
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Does this have anything to do with the announcement of her pending retirement? Although I highly respect her for her business savvy, Oprah has nothing to do with my salvation. She's not a minister, she hosts a talk show. If anybody changed their views because Oprah said it, that's on them, not Oprah.
It's on Oprah, too. If she's causing people to turn away from the faith or not even seek who Christ is then she may be on a course to have a date with a large millstone at the Lake of Fire Inn.
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It's on Oprah, too. If she's causing people to turn away from the faith or not even seek who Christ is then she may be on a course to have a date with a large millstone at the Lake of Fire Inn.
The Penthouse Suite, of course.