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Title: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 03, 2010, 10:34:02 PM
Hi I'm a beginner and I've found a wholesale connection for 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) Keyboards $1700 Total. 3 is the minimum for them and I'm looking for two other people that can come up with $566 dollars. You can't beat these prices. One sell for that amount alone (I only need one to start learning). They are brand new in the box. Please email me at mslanesa at gmail dot com if you are interested. The minimum Quantity Order is 3 which is why i need two more people. Here is what it looks and sound like.

Yamaha PSR-S700 / PSR-S900 Keyboards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwMQrXn5qbE#)

YAMAHA PSR-S900: Some Styles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFHzSRuMiCw#)

I need serious people only that are ready to purchase right away. I would like to purchase right away so i can start learning. Please email me if you are ready to purchase now. Thanks!!!
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: under13 on January 03, 2010, 10:49:38 PM
$1350 keyboard for only $566? :-\
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 03, 2010, 11:44:39 PM
Hey that's what I thought too, but that's what he quoted me!  :)
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: berbie on January 04, 2010, 06:06:20 AM
It is hard to figure why anyone would (legit)sell a new Yamaha PSR 900 keyboard for $566.00. 
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: melvinbrown on January 04, 2010, 08:21:05 AM
What is the status of the 2 other people?
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 04, 2010, 06:41:56 PM
It is hard to figure why anyone would (legit)sell a new Yamaha PSR 900 keyboard for $566.00. 

Yes, Just like its hard to figure why Sean Puffy Combs would open a manufacture in China, hire works for .07 cents and hour. Sell the clothing in the US for 3 times the price (in the business / jewelry world they call it Triple Keystone Pricing). Why would i buy anything in the United States when none of our wholesalers are buying anything here. So to answer question, why would any business person settle for a retail price when they can get it wholesale from the manufacture.

Lanesa
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 04, 2010, 06:44:53 PM
What is the status of the 2 other people?

I may have another person, just waiting to here back from him to see what he says. I try not to purchase any technology (including jewerly) from the US if I don't have to which is why the prices is what is what it is. I will keep you posted.

Lanesa
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 04, 2010, 06:51:52 PM
The Definition of Keystone Pricing. This is Why Dell and HP are Giants.

http://retail.about.com/od/glossary/g/keystone.htm (http://retail.about.com/od/glossary/g/keystone.htm)

Definition: A pricing method of marking merchandise for resell to an amount that is double the wholesale price.

Also Known As: Keystoning
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: malthumb on January 04, 2010, 07:24:11 PM
So, if the idea is to purchase these three keyboards from outside the US, how does this transaction take place?  Does each person send their money to the seller and the seller ship directly to each of the three buyers?  Or is one person collecting the money from the other two, then receiving the keyboards and distributing them to the other two?



Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: T-Block on January 04, 2010, 07:52:43 PM
That's why if you're interested, just pm the girl and she will give you all the details. If you're not interested, then you shouldn't even participate in the thread. >:(
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: under13 on January 04, 2010, 08:54:38 PM
That's why if you're interested, just pm the girl and she will give you all the details. If you're not interested, then you shouldn't even participate in the thread. >:(


And what if a fellow LGMer gets scammed? Sorry, but this just seems kinda shady.

If this deal is legit then she should let us know who her "connection" is. (http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/images/smilies/shadyhat.gif)

Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 04, 2010, 09:40:49 PM
That's why if you're interested, just pm the girl and she will give you all the details. If you're not interested, then you shouldn't even participate in the thread. >:(


I say discuss it out in the open. After all, a thread was started and everything.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: betnich on January 04, 2010, 11:01:20 PM
Some specs:

http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-PSRS900-Arranger-Workstation?sku=702675&src=3WWRWXGB&ZYXSEM=0 (http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-PSRS900-Arranger-Workstation?sku=702675&src=3WWRWXGB&ZYXSEM=0)

Personally, I wouldn't spend that much on anything less than 88 keys....
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: under13 on January 04, 2010, 11:04:23 PM
Some specs:

[url]http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-PSRS900-Arranger-Workstation?sku=702675&src=3WWRWXGB&ZYXSEM=0[/url] ([url]http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-PSRS900-Arranger-Workstation?sku=702675&src=3WWRWXGB&ZYXSEM=0[/url])

Personally, I wouldn't spend that much on anything less than 88 keys....


I think most arranger boards are 61 keys.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 04, 2010, 11:24:53 PM
So, if the idea is to purchase these three keyboards from outside the US, how does this transaction take place?  Does each person send their money to the seller and the seller ship directly to each of the three buyers?  Or is one person collecting the money from the other two, then receiving the keyboards and distributing them to the other two?


What will happen is you'll send the funds to my Paypal Business account where you can dispute and get your money if you don't get the item. I will send the funds to the seller and have him to Dropship the Keyboards to each person at their address. This way you'll always have the contact once you receive the item.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 04, 2010, 11:26:39 PM

I say discuss it out in the open. After all, a thread was started and everything.

I own a legitimate business, I don't have time for scams. I just want a keyboard for learning Piano and I don't need three which is the minimum requirement.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 04, 2010, 11:29:59 PM
I think most arranger boards are 61 keys.


I just want to learn, that's it. I'm new and don't have a keyboard right now which is why the PSR-S900 is a good deal. Also, Ebay has the same Keyboard for $1299. Again, I think it's worth it considering the cost.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280444708168&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=WVF%3F&GUID=f7e9e0041250a03663b5b9e5fff96a25&itemid=280444708168&ff4=263602_263622 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280444708168&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=WVF%3F&GUID=f7e9e0041250a03663b5b9e5fff96a25&itemid=280444708168&ff4=263602_263622)
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: malthumb on January 05, 2010, 04:49:30 AM
What will happen is you'll send the funds to my Paypal Business account where you can dispute and get your money if you don't get the item. I will send the funds to the seller and have him to Dropship the Keyboards to each person at their address. This way you'll always have the contact once you receive the item.

Thank you for the detail.  I will be contacting separately from this LGM thread to understand in more detail how this can / should work.  You'll recognize my attempts to contact you as being from James Martin.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 05, 2010, 12:14:04 PM
Thanks James, I await your reply. There is another person on this forum interested also and I've posted on Facebook.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 06, 2010, 04:47:53 PM
Hi Thanks to all those that participated in the forum and those that contacted me about going in to buy the Keyboards. I have a buyer is going to allow me to just purchase one!  Anyone else interested in Purchasing the PSR-S900 Keboard can go to this seller.

http://www.feijietech.com/product_list.aspx?pcid=70 (http://www.feijietech.com/product_list.aspx?pcid=70)

Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: berbie on January 06, 2010, 06:25:18 PM
T, I had to comment for the benefit of Lanessa and any other poster who might be interested. There is no tooth fairy. I,m just saying, watch your step. When I look at the site given, I can quickly determine that I would not do business with them. 

An astute buyer could have bought a Yamaha PSR 900 for about $1150.00 just before Christmas at one of the large mail order houses(tax and postage paid).  There might be other sales later on.

If someone gets a new one for $566.00, great for them.

berbie
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 06, 2010, 07:56:07 PM
T, I had to comment for the benefit of Lanessa and any other poster who might be interested. There is no tooth fairy. I,m just saying, watch your step. When I look at the site given, I can quickly determine that I would not do business with them. 

An astute buyer could have bought a Yamaha PSR 900 for about $1150.00 just before Christmas at one of the large mail order houses(tax and postage paid).  There might be other sales later on.

If someone gets a new one for $566.00, great for them.

berbie

Do what makes you feel comfortable, safe and happy. After doing business over there on several occasions, that's what I've chosen. The United States is over $10 Trillion dollars in debt to China. Wow, I wonder how that happened... Go and buy it from Ebay or Amazon and you'll be buying the same item from a respectful business that marks it up and sell it to you at a price that makes you feel comfortable and safe.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 06, 2010, 08:09:47 PM
By the Way these guys are gold suppliers on Alibaba.com and if you still don't feel comfortable then buy it from here:

http://evergobiz.en.alibaba.com/search/product?IndexArea=product_en&SearchText=yamaha (http://evergobiz.en.alibaba.com/search/product?IndexArea=product_en&SearchText=yamaha)

If you still don't feel like an astute business person, then buy from the large mail order house so you can keep the astute persona.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: berbie on January 06, 2010, 11:01:35 PM
I am not really looking for one. Thanks for the information though.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 07, 2010, 12:21:08 PM
By the Way these guys are gold suppliers on Alibaba.com and if you still don't feel comfortable then buy it from here:

[url]http://evergobiz.en.alibaba.com/search/product?IndexArea=product_en&SearchText=yamaha[/url] ([url]http://evergobiz.en.alibaba.com/search/product?IndexArea=product_en&SearchText=yamaha[/url])

If you still don't feel like an astute business person, then buy from the large mail order house so you can keep the astute persona.


 ::)
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: under13 on January 07, 2010, 12:48:55 PM
::)

lol

Dont know if I trust a business that only accepts Western Union money wires. When was the last time you seen a western union commercial? :D
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 07, 2010, 01:49:28 PM
lol

Dont know if I trust a business that only accepts Western Union money wires. When was the last time you seen a western union commercial? :D

I think I'll just stick to Guitar Center and Sam Ash.

I don't wanna send them 6 beans, then when I call the next week I hear:

"I'm sorry.  The number you have dialed is no longer in service."

I'll be on here heated.

Lanessa: "My bad."

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 07, 2010, 04:08:27 PM
I think I'll just stick to Guitar Center and Sam Ash.

I don't wanna send them 6 beans, then when I call the next week I hear:

"I'm sorry.  The number you have dialed is no longer in service."

I'll be on here heated.

Lanessa: "My bad."

 :D :D :D


 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 07, 2010, 06:32:05 PM
lol

Dont know if I trust a business that only accepts Western Union money wires. When was the last time you seen a western union commercial? :D

Why should they trust your check?

Some of them take Paypal and some Bank Wires. I've Done Business with them all three ways. Either way they just want to make sure you're legit. They feel the same way about you as you feel about them. Once they build a relationship then they may take payment in another form.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 07, 2010, 06:35:48 PM
I think I'll just stick to Guitar Center and Sam Ash.

I don't wanna send them 6 beans, then when I call the next week I hear:

"I'm sorry.  The number you have dialed is no longer in service."

I'll be on here heated.

Lanessa: "My bad."

 :D :D :D

Business is about taking risk... A real entrepreneur is somebody who has no safety net underneath them.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 07, 2010, 08:31:05 PM
Business is about taking risk... A real entrepreneur is somebody who has no safety net underneath them.

Excuse me, I cry foul.


More than likely, no one is going to start a business purchasing a keyboard from your people.


You're reaching.  :-\


Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: under13 on January 07, 2010, 10:30:11 PM
No comment.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 08, 2010, 07:53:09 AM
Business is about taking risk... A real entrepreneur is somebody who has no safety net underneath them.

I know it seems like we're all giving you a thumbs down, but you have to see where we're coming from.

All signs point to scam.

There's such a thing as an Educated Risk (investing in stocks after doing diligent research), and Irresponsible Risk (Wiring $600 to an unknown, overseas business and praying I get a keyboard in the mail).
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 08, 2010, 09:01:12 AM
I know it seems like we're all giving you a thumbs down, but you have to see where we're coming from.

All signs point to scam.

There's such a thing as an Educated Risk (investing in stocks after doing diligent research), and Irresponsible Risk (Wiring $600 to an unknown, overseas business and praying I get a keyboard in the mail).

Exactly. It's as simple as caveat emptor.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 08, 2010, 09:19:11 AM
Exactly. It's as simple as caveat emptor.

Having just googled 'caveat emptor', I can now agree.

 :D
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 08, 2010, 09:29:58 AM
Having just googled 'caveat emptor', I can now agree.

 :D

Not a fan of 70s television, eh? I know you weren't born then, but there's Nick @ Nite.  :D
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: kodacolor on January 08, 2010, 09:53:44 AM
Why do I feel like this a prelude to People's Court or something like that?
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 08, 2010, 09:58:26 AM
Why do I feel like this a prelude to People's Court or something like that?

I have the visual.  Complete with the People's Court music 'n all dat.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: kodacolor on January 08, 2010, 10:33:41 AM
I have the visual.  Complete with the People's Court music 'n all dat.

 :D
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 12:59:07 PM
Excuse me, I cry foul.

More than likely, no one is going to start a business purchasing a keyboard from your people.

You're reaching.  :-\


I beg to differ... There are many of you on this forum right now that play keyboard as a hobby and there are many of you that do it as a service and get paid for doing... You're already considered a business to the IRS if you charge for a service by playing your keyboard. You are a Sole Proprietor. So whether you purchase from them or not, I'm just providing a resource, you honestly don't have to, neither am I trying to force you to.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: betnich on January 08, 2010, 01:05:56 PM
Lanesa,

     If you have to buy 2-3 keyboards to fufill your order you can try selling the extras on eBay....
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 01:15:32 PM
I know it seems like we're all giving you a thumbs down, but you have to see where we're coming from.

All signs point to scam.

There's such a thing as an Educated Risk (investing in stocks after doing diligent research), and Irresponsible Risk (Wiring $600 to an unknown, overseas business and praying I get a keyboard in the mail).


I think you guys are missing the point. You're not gambling as you do with the stock market. You're first of all dealing with wholesalers (gold suppliers). Why would they risk there their business over one seller that wants to purchase one keyboard when they've sold thousands.

If you were having second thoughts about someone over there that was a free member, I could see. But Gold Suppliers. For Real...
http://ggs.alibaba.com/?tracelog=24581_homepage_os (http://ggs.alibaba.com/?tracelog=24581_homepage_os)

No Gold Supplier is going to scam you for one keyboard and risk millions are you kidding me...
So what is the Benefit of being a gold supplier and get page rank and sales if you're going to scam someone

So What is There Definition of a Gold Supplier:

Gold Supplier is a premium type of membership for suppliers on Alibaba.com. To qualify for a Gold Supplier membership, a supplier must undergo and pass authentication and verification procedures conducted by a reputable third-party security service provider appointed by Alibaba.com. Once approved, Gold Supplier members are authorized to display the What's Gold Suppliers? icon to demonstrate their authenticity, which means they are a legitimate entity in existence whose identity has been verified.

Membership Fee:      US$2,999 for 12 Months 

Why would anybody want to risk losing $3000 in membership fees a year, Millions in Sales, for 6 beans... HaHa, yall too funny on this forum.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 01:20:55 PM
Lanesa,

     If you have to buy 2-3 keyboards to fufill your order you can try selling the extras on eBay....

Actually I don't have to now. I have a seller I'm doing business with for one keyboard. I don't want to make a business out of selling keyboards, although i do sell laptops... That's the benefit of me doing business over there i can always get reliable, legitimate resources for other items. Also, I'm not experienced enough to sell keyboards. I a beginner, beginner...
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: under13 on January 08, 2010, 01:23:30 PM
Alibaba? sounds like a character from Aladdin.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 01:30:32 PM
Alibaba? sounds like a character from Aladdin.

Hey if the name was Aladdin. I'd still buy from over there.  ;D
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 08, 2010, 02:01:40 PM
I think you guys are missing the point. You're not gambling as you do with the stock market. You're first of all dealing with wholesalers (gold suppliers). Why would they risk there their business over one seller that wants to purchase one keyboard when they've sold thousands.

If you were having second thoughts about someone over there that was a free member, I could see. But Gold Suppliers. For Real...
[url]http://ggs.alibaba.com/?tracelog=24581_homepage_os[/url] ([url]http://ggs.alibaba.com/?tracelog=24581_homepage_os[/url])

No Gold Supplier is going to scam you for one keyboard and risk millions are you kidding me...
So what is the Benefit of being a gold supplier and get page rank and sales if you're going to scam someone

So What is There Definition of a Gold Supplier:

Gold Supplier is a premium type of membership for suppliers on Alibaba.com. To qualify for a Gold Supplier membership, a supplier must undergo and pass authentication and verification procedures conducted by a reputable third-party security service provider appointed by Alibaba.com. Once approved, Gold Supplier members are authorized to display the What's Gold Suppliers? icon to demonstrate their authenticity, which means they are a legitimate entity in existence whose identity has been verified.

Membership Fee:      US$2,999 for 12 Months 

Why would anybody want to risk losing $3000 in membership fees a year, Millions in Sales, for 6 beans... HaHa, yall too funny on this forum.


Alibaba doesn't diligently verify the companies, and scams (http://www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk/forum/bad-supplier-experiences/15465-alibaba-gold-member-scam.html), even by Gold Suppliers, are all over.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 02:04:44 PM
Alibaba doesn't diligently verify the companies, and scams ([url]http://www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk/forum/bad-supplier-experiences/15465-alibaba-gold-member-scam.html[/url]), even by Gold Suppliers, are all over.


Yes, but the diligently pay $3000 in membership fees every year. So $3000 to $600 for a keyboard. hmmmm.....
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 02:11:48 PM
This is my last response on this forum, I don't have time to debate of over whether its safe to do business over there. If you don't want to don't...

If you see where there is opportunity over there, then do business...

By the time we finish debating over whether you should trust doing business over there or if something is a fraud, they've already sold thousands of those same keyboards.

Are there scams over there, yes. Just like there are scams on Ebay and Amazon, reputable services we trust.

It's your money... Your Choice... Go the safest route...
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 08, 2010, 02:17:45 PM
Yes, but the diligently pay $3000 in membership fees every year. So $3000 to $600 for a keyboard. hmmmm.....


No Lanesa.  $3000 for God-knows-how-many $600 keyboards before they're shut down.  Then they reopen an account under another fraudulent name.  Then then make dozens more transactions before they're shut down again.

FYI:

The company you listed, Xiamen Zhuxin, has been identified as a scam company on an Alibaba.com forum. (http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/369528/Save_your_money_The_best_ways_to_know_the_fraud_company_.htm?tracelog=forum_hottopics_carol1)

See what a little research can do?   :-\
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 02:18:09 PM
This is the last post for real,

Why would you pull a thread from 2007. I've been on Alibaba since 2008 and was never scammed. Also, the services for Gold Memberships being enforced and them doing background checks didn't start until around late 2008. They also increased the price of being a Gold Member to decrease the chances of business applying for Gold Memberships that was not authentic. That's why the fee is now $2999.

You're pulling something thats very old. This is 2010. A lot has changed since then... Again it's your choice...
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 08, 2010, 02:35:33 PM
This is the last post for real,

Why would you pull a thread from 2007. I've been on Alibaba since 2008 and was never scammed. Also, the services for Gold Memberships being enforced and them doing background checks didn't start until around late 2008. They also increased the price of being a Gold Member to decrease the chances of business applying for Gold Memberships that was not authentic. That's why the fee is now $2999.

You're pulling something thats very old. This is 2010. A lot has changed since then... Again it's your choice...


Western Union Scam (http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/safe-trading/100069702-1-western-union-scam.html) post on Alibaba.com forum March 17th 2009

Someone one claiming they were ripped off by Xiamen Zhuxin, the company you listed (http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/631244/Any_deal_with_Xiamen_Zhuxin_Industry_amp_Trade_Co_Ltd.htm), posted on Alibaba.com forum November 5th 2009

Dear God, there are DOZENS more like this.

I'm not sure why you're defending this company like this, seeing as you're only a "beginner" who wants this keyboard for yourself.   ?/?
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 08, 2010, 02:50:05 PM
This is the last post for real,

Why would you pull a thread from 2007. I've been on Alibaba since 2008 and was never scammed. Also, the services for Gold Memberships being enforced and them doing background checks didn't start until around late 2008. They also increased the price of being a Gold Member to decrease the chances of business applying for Gold Memberships that was not authentic. That's why the fee is now $2999.

You're pulling something thats very old. This is 2010. A lot has changed since then... Again it's your choice...


Western Union Scam ([url]http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/safe-trading/100069702-1-western-union-scam.html[/url]) post on Alibaba.com forum March 17th 2009

Someone one claiming they were ripped off by Xiamen Zhuxin, the company you listed ([url]http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/631244/Any_deal_with_Xiamen_Zhuxin_Industry_amp_Trade_Co_Ltd.htm[/url]), posted on Alibaba.com forum November 5th 2009

Dear God, there are DOZENS more like this.

I'm not sure why you're defending this company like this, seeing as you're only a "beginner" who wants this keyboard for yourself.   ?/?



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Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: jonesl78 on January 08, 2010, 03:17:33 PM
Since you are a beginner try these keyboards out:
 http://miami.craigslist.org/search/msg?query=keyboard&catAbbreviation=msg&minAsk=min&maxAsk=566 (http://miami.craigslist.org/search/msg?query=keyboard&catAbbreviation=msg&minAsk=min&maxAsk=566)

or these: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Workstations-Keyboards.gc?o=1 (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Workstations-Keyboards.gc?o=1)

You have a decent budget to work with so there really isnt any need to do business overseas when you can get what you want right here. On the hand, its difficult to make request when you do not have a relationship/credibilty with others. Besides, IMO that particular keyboard isn't worth hassel.

NOW if that was a MOTIF XS8 you might be able to scam me
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 08, 2010, 03:44:33 PM
You have a decent budget to work with so there really isnt any need to do business overseas when you can get what you want right here. On the hand, its difficult to make request when you do not have a relationship/credibilty with others. Besides, IMO that particular keyboard isn't worth hassel.

It had more to do with the credibility of the resource she listed....which were more than likely fraudulent.   :-\
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 03:51:24 PM
It had more to do with the credibility of the resource she listed....which were more than likely fraudulent.   :-\


Here's 2007 Forbes Article For you. Know telling what it's worth now but i find it hard to believe that any investor would want to continue to invest in a company that is a fraud.

http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/23/alibaba-ipo-pricing-markets-equity-cx_jc_1023markets1.html (http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/23/alibaba-ipo-pricing-markets-equity-cx_jc_1023markets1.html)

Alibaba.com, China’s largest e-commerce company, on Monday launched what is set to be one of the world’s most expensive initial public offerings, seeking to raise up to 11.6 billion Hong Kong dollars ($1.49 billion) through a share sale priced at a much higher valuation than investors paid for Google when it came public.

Alibaba.com, founded by former English teacher Jack Ma in 1995, is selling a 17% stake in the company, in the biggest technology IPO since Google (nasdaq: GOOG - news - people ) raised $1.66 billion in 2004.

Alibaba.com on Monday revised its already high pricing range upward to between 12 Hong Kong dollars ($1.54) and 13.50 Hong Kong dollars ($1.73) a share, which would raise a maximum of 11.6 billion Hong Kong dollars( $1.49 billion) before an allotment option that would allow it to raise more in after-IPO trading.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 03:55:55 PM
Always in Forbes but a Fraud. Ok....

http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/16/alibaba-jack-ma-intelligent-technology-david-wei.html (http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/16/alibaba-jack-ma-intelligent-technology-david-wei.html)

Alibaba is a China-based Internet service for businesses to find and sell to each other. It has 45 million registered users, including 10 million overseas companies (1.9 million of those are in the United States.) David Wei, chief executive of Alibaba.com, talks about the conversation that took him into the digital world.

Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 08, 2010, 03:59:19 PM
*sigh*

I wasn't referring to Alibaba.com.  They just host the Vendors. 

I was referring the the VENDOR you listed, Xiamen Zhuxin Industry & Trade, the vendor you listed.

Did you even click the links?  Or read my posts?   :-\ ::)
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
Western Union Scam ([url]http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/safe-trading/100069702-1-western-union-scam.html[/url]) post on Alibaba.com forum March 17th 2009

Someone one claiming they were ripped off by Xiamen Zhuxin, the company you listed ([url]http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/631244/Any_deal_with_Xiamen_Zhuxin_Industry_amp_Trade_Co_Ltd.htm[/url]), posted on Alibaba.com forum November 5th 2009

Dear God, there are DOZENS more like this.

I'm not sure why you're defending this company like this, seeing as you're only a "beginner" who wants this keyboard for yourself.   ?/?


I'm defending it because a keyboard is not all I have purchased from over there... The fact is I didn't need three of them which was the first offer...

Which is why I posted the thread to the forum in the first place. I buy laptops and software from over, including perfume and make up and other wholesale items that have been purchased for or ministry... I'm not new Alibaba just to this forum...
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 04:06:26 PM
*sigh*

I wasn't referring to Alibaba.com.  They just host the Vendors. 

I was referring the the VENDOR you listed, Xiamen Zhuxin Industry & Trade, the vendor you listed.

Did you even click the links?  Or read my posts?   :-\ ::)

Yes, i did from 1 person that was making all this fuss about being ripped off and then if you keeping reading you'll find some rebuttals of other posters trying to give him advice of how to do business in China. What you neglected to mention is that the forum is huge and there are a lot of positive posters on that forum that have had major success.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 04:20:36 PM
Here's a positive article on the forum...

Maria from Denmark wrote a topic as follows which triggered a hot discussion on Chinese suppliers.

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/2371/CHINESSE_SUPPLIERS_BE_AWARE_.htm (http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/2371/CHINESSE_SUPPLIERS_BE_AWARE_.htm)

As a local Chinese foreign trade manager with high credit standing, I can assure you that 99% of Chinese suppliers are honest and reliable. China is becoming the so called ' world factory' and ' manufacturing centre' owing to her low labour cost, which benefit billions of people worldwide every year. Countless buyers from worldwide coming to China for business opportunities every year, and some Chinese suppliers have to compete with their counterparts worldwide to meet the regulations of WTO. After China joined WTO in 2001, more and more Chinese suppliers are becoming trustworthy and reliable as they have realized that they have to improve the quality and service to compete with others.

However, some foreign buyers take it for granted that Chinese goods must be very cheap, so they cut down the prices to the least, incredibly low to make themselves profit more. In such cases, some Chinese businessman are forced to cheat you because they profit too less. If you don't have a win-win concept in your mind, you're bound to be cheated in China. There is an old Chinese saying like this: Low price doesn't match high-quality goods.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 08, 2010, 04:26:32 PM
Here's a positive article on the forum...

Maria from Denmark wrote a topic as follows which triggered a hot discussion on Chinese suppliers.

[url]http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/2371/CHINESSE_SUPPLIERS_BE_AWARE_.htm[/url] ([url]http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/2371/CHINESSE_SUPPLIERS_BE_AWARE_.htm[/url])

As a local Chinese foreign trade manager with high credit standing, I can assure you that 99% of Chinese suppliers are honest and reliable. China is becoming the so called ' world factory' and ' manufacturing centre' owing to her low labour cost, which benefit billions of people worldwide every year. Countless buyers from worldwide coming to China for business opportunities every year, and some Chinese suppliers have to compete with their counterparts worldwide to meet the regulations of WTO. After China joined WTO in 2001, more and more Chinese suppliers are becoming trustworthy and reliable as they have realized that they have to improve the quality and service to compete with others.

However, some foreign buyers take it for granted that Chinese goods must be very cheap, so they cut down the prices to the least, incredibly low to make themselves profit more. In such cases, some Chinese businessman are forced to cheat you because they profit too less. If you don't have a win-win concept in your mind, you're bound to be cheated in China. There is an old Chinese saying like this: Low price doesn't match high-quality goods.


Has the meaning of the word changed?  ?/? ?/?



Let me say this, if alibaba is akin to Amazon and your company(on alibaba) is akin to a vendor(on Amazon) how does one recoup their funds if their transaction fails?
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: under13 on January 08, 2010, 04:32:06 PM
funny how the second post in that link you posted totally contradicts your argumrnt
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 04:35:48 PM
funny how the second post in that link you posted totally contradicts your argumrnt

It's not contradictory... If you're going to search for post, don't just go to google and type in Alibaba and the word scams... You keep doing further research...
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: malthumb on January 08, 2010, 04:38:31 PM
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Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 04:44:10 PM
Has the meaning of the word changed?  ?/? ?/?



Let me say this, if alibaba is akin to Amazon and your company(on alibaba) is akin to a vendor(on Amazon) how does one recoup their funds if their transaction fails?

The same way you recoup on Amazon and Ebay... Some people use Paypal, Some use bank wire and some use Ecrow services... Ifn fact Ebay about 2-3 years ago was nothing but scams, people were selling knock off hand bags and tiffany and co jewelry left and right... Has it changed. NO!!!!

It has not changed... The only difference is once the buyer gives you a positive review or no complaints they release the funds. In fact they are calling some items (high risk). With Amazon, you have to negotiate with the seller. If they choose not to give you refund, then you have just lost out. The only thing you can do is give them a negative rating. I have sold about 50 books on Amazon and some software and have purchased about 70 books in the past 2 years. If I had a complaint with the seller we had to come to an agreement. They didn't just refund me my money back. So the answer to your question is this.

Look for the form of Payment arrangement that will satisfy you doing business over there. Have the seller insure the items. They only way that's going to happen is if you are buying large quantities of items.  If you're buying one item, I don't see it happening for you. They are Wholesalers not Retailers although you will find a few retailers on there.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: dereknae on January 08, 2010, 04:48:25 PM
Girl, why are you even debating with these dudes???? If they dont want it ,they don't have to buy it!!!! Point blank!!! You said what you said so anything else dont even matter..Enjoy your new keyboard when it comes.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
Girl, why are you even debating with these dudes???? If they dont want it ,they don't have to buy it!!!! Point blank!!! You said what you said so anything else dont even matter..Enjoy your new keyboard when it comes.

Thank you!!! I plan on it!!!  ;D

Hopefully I can still get some help to some of my questions when it arrive, otherwise I may have to find another forum...
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: dereknae on January 08, 2010, 04:56:51 PM
Seems like it's always alot of confusion going on around here,And God isn't in the mist of that..Stay positive and don't let people throw you off your game!!! Never let them see you sweat..God bless sis
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: dereknae on January 08, 2010, 05:01:58 PM
Don't worry..It's a few good people in here that'll help you in any way if you need help.
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Lanesa on January 08, 2010, 05:11:40 PM
Seems like it's always alot of confusion going on around here,And God isn't in the mist of that..Stay positive and don't let people throw you off your game!!! Never let them see you sweat..God bless sis


Thank you!!! I needed that... I was just beginning to wonder... Anyway I started looking for another site where I can learn and have a positive experience. I'm going to order the DVD's from here:

http://www.hearandplay.com/main/category/piano (http://www.hearandplay.com/main/category/piano)

I think this is the best route to take right about now... Can standing all the negativity... Thanks Again!
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 08, 2010, 05:17:27 PM
Thank you!!! I needed that... I was just beginning to wonder... Anyway I started looking for another site where I can learn and have a positive experience. I'm going to order the DVD's from here:

[url]http://www.hearandplay.com/main/category/piano[/url] ([url]http://www.hearandplay.com/main/category/piano[/url])

I think this is the best route to take right about now... Can standing all the negativity... Thanks Again!


Look, a majority of your posts deal with you trying to sell/buy this keyboard and promoting this 'reputable' website. Since when do questions equate to negativity?  :-\


Anyway, enjoy your keyboard. Maybe you can post some clips when it arrives. Be sure to add your face in the clips. ;)  :)
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: dereknae on January 08, 2010, 05:32:16 PM
We bind satan right now in the name of JESUS
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: under13 on January 08, 2010, 05:35:07 PM
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Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 08, 2010, 05:51:17 PM
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 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: kodacolor on January 08, 2010, 06:00:18 PM
The same way you recoup on Amazon and Ebay... Some people use Paypal, Some use bank wire and some use Ecrow services... Ifn fact Ebay about 2-3 years ago was nothing but scams, people were selling knock off hand bags and tiffany and co jewelry left and right... Has it changed. NO!!!!

It has not changed... The only difference is once the buyer gives you a positive review or no complaints they release the funds. In fact they are calling some items (high risk). With Amazon, you have to negotiate with the seller. If they choose not to give you refund, then you have just lost out. The only thing you can do is give them a negative rating. I have sold about 50 books on Amazon and some software and have purchased about 70 books in the past 2 years. If I had a complaint with the seller we had to come to an agreement. They didn't just refund me my money back. So the answer to your question is this.

Look for the form of Payment arrangement that will satisfy you doing business over there. Have the seller insure the items. They only way that's going to happen is if you are buying large quantities of items.  If you're buying one item, I don't see it happening for you. They are Wholesalers not Retailers although you will find a few retailers on there.

Ok, so you said one site gives you the money back if you give a positive review.  The other doesn't give the money back at all.  So the answer is you might get a refund, you might not?  If that's the answer then what can someone who sends their money to you expect if something goes wrong and you can't get the money back?
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 08, 2010, 07:39:26 PM
Ok, so you said one site gives you the money back if you give a positive review.  The other doesn't give the money back at all.  So the answer is you might get a refund, you might not?  If that's the answer then what can someone who sends their money to you expect if something goes wrong and you can't get the money back?



Uh, Koda?



























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Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: kodacolor on January 08, 2010, 10:15:59 PM
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I'm just curious. :)

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Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 08, 2010, 10:30:08 PM
I'm just curious. :)

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And you know what that did to the cat, right? Right.





































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Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: kodacolor on January 09, 2010, 04:35:30 PM

And you know what that did to the cat, right? Right.

([url]http://www.michelart.net/images/comic_newest/Let%20It%20Go.gif[/url])


 :D :D :D
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 11, 2010, 10:05:42 AM
Look, a majority of your posts deal with you trying to sell/buy this keyboard and promoting this 'reputable' website. Since when do questions equate to negativity?  :-\


Anyway, enjoy your keyboard. Maybe you can post some clips when it arrives. Be sure to add your face in the clips. ;)  :)

This.

I wasn't attacking you or Alibaba.com.  I was attacking the validity of THE VENDOR (Xiamen Zhuxin Industry & Trade Co., Ltd.) you listed ON Alibaba.com.  I even mentioned the vendor's name.  I made it clear that I was attacking the vendor, not the site.

That specific vendor, as I showed in links, has been noted as being fraudulent.

I dunno.  Personally, I'd say "Thanks for not letting me step on that landmine" instead of "Stop attacking the poor landmine".   :-\

I hope you get your keyboard from ANOTHER company. :D If and when you do, I'll be the first one to offer advice and pointers.   ;)



Girl, why are you even debating with these dudes???? If they dont want it ,they don't have to buy it!!!! Point blank!!! You said what you said so anything else dont even matter..Enjoy your new keyboard when it comes.
Seems like it's always alot of confusion going on around here,And God isn't in the mist of that..Stay positive and don't let people throw you off your game!!! Never let them see you sweat..God bless sis

Clearly, you haven't been following along with the rest of the class.    :D
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: csedwards2 on January 11, 2010, 10:24:42 AM
so, how bout dem Wizards

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Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: Skizo Frene on January 11, 2010, 10:31:31 AM
so, how bout dem Wizards

([url]http://www.downtowndc.org/_files/images/washington-wizards.jpg[/url])


You mean the Bullets?   :-X
Title: Re: I Need Two People to Chip In to Purchase 3 Yamaha (PSR-S900) $1700 Total
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 11, 2010, 02:00:59 PM
You mean the Bullets?   :-X

I see what you did there.