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Like me, you know you miss the NFL season. I thought I'd start a thread where we can discuss any interesting (and yes, predictable) NFL off-season happenings including the NFL Draft.
I'll start:
LT is out of SD (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783)
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Randy Moss may not return to the Pats next year
Tim Tebow is changing his throwing motion in order to go higher in the draft. ::) ::) ::)
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Will Carolina keep Julius Peppers? That's the big question here.
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Randy Moss may not return to the Pats next year
Tim Tebow is changing his throwing motion in order to go higher in the draft. ::) ::) ::)
I thought that was 2011, not 2010? :-\
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T.O. might play with the Bengals???
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T.O. might play with the Bengals???
Cedric Benson, Chad Johnson (I REFUSE to call him 'Ochocinco') and a motivated T.O. would make that Bengals offense something fierce.
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Cedric Benson, Chad Johnson (I REFUSE to call him 'Ochocinco') and a motivated T.O. would make that Bengals offense something fierce.
I'on know...Chad and Terrel weren't that spectacular this past season :-\
I hope the bengals won't fall into the trap of getting all these old superstars thinking this will get them a chance at the superbowl...
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I'on know...Chad and Terrel weren't that spectacular this past season :-\
I hope the bengals won't fall into the trap of getting all these old superstars thinking this will get them a chance at the superbowl...
I T.O.'s problem was the dudes throwing the ball. I agree with u tho. Larry Johnson and Anquan Boldin they ain't.
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Cedric Benson, Chad Johnson (I REFUSE to call him 'Ochocinco') and a motivated T.O. would make that Bengals offense something fierce.
Only if Palmer's arm doesn't turn into Edward's arm; or, Fitzpatrick's as it did this season. :-\
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I T.O.'s problem was the dudes throwing the ball. I agree with u tho. Larry Johnson and Anquan Boldin they ain't.
larry johnson ain't larry johnson no more.
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larry johnson ain't larry johnson no more.
Larry *Fitzgerald (thx).
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Who's going to draft Ndamukong Suh?
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No surprise, Birds cut ties with 'Brook. (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12968110/eagles-release-slowing-backfield-star-westbrook)
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No surprise, Birds cut ties with 'Brook. ([url]http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12968110/eagles-release-slowing-backfield-star-westbrook[/url])
It was a good run, but he needs to call it quits. Westbrook is out there playing scared because of concussions. There is no way he can be productive on the field if he's thinking about having another one. BTW... He can always get a job on ESPN or next to Tiki Barber and Michael Strahan
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It was a good run, but he needs to call it quits. Westbrook is out there playing scared because of concussions. There is no way he can be productive on the field if he's thinking about having another one. BTW... He can always get a job on ESPN or next to Tiki Barber and Michael Strahan
Agreed.
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What's gonna Happen with M. Vick. I don't think he's happy coming off the bench ( although you won't hear him complain about it).
there are a bunch of teams that need a QB:
1. Bills
2. Raiders
3. Dolphins
4. Lions
5. Browns
6. Bucs
T.O. was well behaved in Buffalo, but he got kicked out of Dallas unfairly.
there are a couple of teams that are in need of a makeover because of increasing age and or injury
1. Patriots
2. Steelers
3. Ravens
their core players are on the backside or thier careers. They are decent teams because of experience, but about to be in the (rebuilding) mode.
Jlewis
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LT is out of SD ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4936783[/url])
No surprise, Birds cut ties with 'Brook. ([url]http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12968110/eagles-release-slowing-backfield-star-westbrook[/url])
Now on sale: Aging Running Backs. Still runs, but not nearly like new. Some wear and tear, but still serviceable.
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Man it breaks my heart to see players like LT and BW get tossed aside like they're nothing. I know that its a business and all but it still breaks my heart that these guys may have to wait until someone gets hurt in order to get another job. :( :-\
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What's gonna Happen with M. Vick. I don't think he's happy coming off the bench ( although you won't hear him complain about it).
there are a bunch of teams that need a QB:
1. Bills
2. Raiders
3. Dolphins
4. Lions
5. Browns
6. Bucs
I think the Rams would love to have Vick. There isn't a QB in this draft worthy of the #1 pick so they can get Vick at a bargain price and draft other needs.
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Man it breaks my heart to see players like LT and BW get tossed aside like they're nothing. I know that its a business and all but it still breaks my heart that these guys may have to wait until someone gets hurt in order to get another job. :( :-\
Professional sports ( but espically professional football) is a meat market. physical prowess is at a premium at just about every position. Hit hard, run fast, jump high. That is what the industry requires. Only QB's are looked at for their understanding of the game. And chances are a mobile QB with a cannon for an arm will always go higher than a guy who can really make the dificult throws in tight windows ( Think JaMarcus Russel)
Jlewis
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Professional sports ( but espically professional football) is a meat market. physical prowess is at a premium at just about every position. Hit hard, run fast, jump high. That is what the industry requires. Only QB's are looked at for their understanding of the game. And chances are a mobile QB with a cannon for an arm will always go higher than a guy who can really make the dificult throws in tight windows ( Think JaMarcus Russel)
Jlewis
One would think, BECAUSE of the failed experiment known as JaMarcus Russell, folks would use a different strategy. :-\
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One would think, BECAUSE of the failed experiment known as JaMarcus Russell, folks would use a different strategy. :-\
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Jets release Thomas Jones (http://www.examiner.com/x-779-New-York-Jets-Examiner~y2010m2d28-Jets-are-fumbling-the-ball-with-the-release-of-Thomas-Jones)
This is the first baffling move of the off-season to me. Jones is on the better side of 30, imo.
I think the Redskins, Chargers, Bears or Lions could scoop this dude up. Although, the Pats could pull a fast one, as well.
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Jets release Thomas Jones ([url]http://www.examiner.com/x-779-New-York-Jets-Examiner~y2010m2d28-Jets-are-fumbling-the-ball-with-the-release-of-Thomas-Jones[/url])
This is the first baffling move of the off-season to me. Jones is on the better side of 30, imo.
I think the Redskins, Chargers, Bears or Lions could scoop this dude up. Although, the Pats could pull a fast one, as well.
If you look at Jones' numbers from last season (which were pretty great), the first question you ask is "How in the world could they release a player who just ran for 1400+ yards and 14 TDs?"
Well, he IS going to be 32 years old when the season starts. LT has shown us just how quickly an older RB can go from 'elite' to 'pedestrian'.
Rookie Shonn Greene emerged at the end of last season and pretty much ran circles around Thomas Jones. By the end of the season Shonn Greene had won the starting job and Jones was the backup. As good as Thomas Jones was, by th end of the season Shonn was better.
The Jets simply couldn't pay a 32yr old Running Back starter money to be a backup.
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If you look at Jones' numbers from last season (which were pretty great), the first question you ask is "How in the world could they release a player who just ran for 1400+ yards and 14 TDs?"
Well, he IS going to be 32 years old when the season starts. LT has shown us just how quickly an older RB can go from 'elite' to 'pedestrian'.
Rookie Shonn Greene emerged at the end of last season and pretty much ran circles around Thomas Jones. By the end of the season Shonn Greene had won the starting job and Jones was the backup. As good as Thomas Jones was, by th end of the season Shonn was better.
The Jets simply couldn't pay a 32yr old Running Back starter money to be a backup.
Got all of that. Why not trade him and upgrade at another position......say QB? ;D :P
Kidding, I really mean WR. Can't tell me they don't need help @ that position.
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Got all of that. Why not trade him and upgrade at another position......say QB? ;D :P
Kidding, I really mean WR. Can't tell me they don't need help @ that position.
My guess is that there aren't many teams looking for a 32yr old RB with that salary. They'd likely look for a younger Back through free agency or the draft (though this is a weak class of RBs). Any WR they get in a deal for Jones would probably be over the hill himself.
C'mon man! Stop pickin on The Sanchize!!! :D
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My guess is that there aren't many teams looking for a 32yr old RB with that salary. They'd likely look for a younger Back through free agency or the draft (though this is a weak class of RBs). Any WR they get in a deal for Jones would probably be over the hill himself.
C'mon man! Stop pickin on The Sanchize!!! :D
Again, 1400+ yds and 14 TDs ain't nothin' to sneeze at @ any age. :D
I'm thinkin' they should've tried to trade him or restructure his deal (fill it with incentives or whatever) and keep if for no other reason than they have NO idea how Leon W. will do after coming back from his broken leg AND, god forbid, Greene gets injured.
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Again, 1400+ yds and 14 TDs ain't nothin' to sneeze at @ any age. :D
I'm thinkin' they should've tried to trade him or restructure his deal (fill it with incentives or whatever) and keep if for no other reason than they have NO idea how Leon W. will do after coming back from his broken leg AND, god forbid, Greene gets injured.
Yea, the numbers are great.
They actually did ask him to take a pay cut and he refused. He was asking for a RAISE at the end of last year, then he had a great year this year, so he refused the pay cut.
With a pay cut/incentive-heavy deal I would've said keep him.
Yea, with Leon Washington pretty much a question mark and no reasonable backup, we'll be in trouble if he gets injured. I hope the Jets are looking for an insurance policy as we type. Preferably a cheap Policy named Tomlinson. :)
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Yea, the numbers are great.
They actually did ask him to take a pay cut and he refused. He was asking for a RAISE at the end of last year, then he had a great year this year, so he refused the pay cut.
With a pay cut/incentive-heavy deal I would've said keep him.
Yea, with Leon Washington pretty much a question mark and no reasonable backup, we'll be in trouble if he gets injured. I hope the Jets are looking for an insurance policy as we type. Preferably a cheap Policy named Tomlinson. :)
Interesting.
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As expected, the Buffalo Bills have declined to off T.O. another contract beyond the 1-yr deal. So is anyone really surprised? I would think that's why it was just a 1-yr deal.
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Oh Brother. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/01/abc-announces-that-ochocinco-will-dance-with-the-stars/) :D
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Oh Brother. ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/01/abc-announces-that-ochocinco-will-dance-with-the-stars/[/url]) :D
somehow i'm not surprised by this :-\
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Jake Delhomme cut by Panthers!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4967109 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4967109)
This has got to be the most suprising story of the offseason! Maybe not suprising but I tell you there has got to be a few praise breaks going on in Charlotte!
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Chargers Cornerback Antonio Cromartie is headed to the Jets (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/04/antonio-cromartie-is-headed-to-the-jets/)
Alright, now all we need is for The Sanchize to come into his own...and some receivers.
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Chargers Cornerback Antonio Cromartie is headed to the Jets ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/04/antonio-cromartie-is-headed-to-the-jets/[/url])
Alright, now all we need is for The Sanchize to come into his own...and some receivers.
I was thinking about this too for personal MADDEN reasons....maybe now i will be able to man up and not have the cpu burn me up and down the field....
But seriously, that turns the jets secondary into a MONSTER.....
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Chester Taylor is a Chicago Bear (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/05/chester-taylor-is-a-chicago-bear/)
This hurts Minnesota. More carries for AP I guess.
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Jake Delhomme cut by Panthers!!!
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4967109[/url] ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4967109[/url])
This has got to be the most suprising story of the offseason! Maybe not suprising but I tell you there has got to be a few praise breaks going on in Charlotte!
I almost went in when I heard the news.... Then I saw the press conference. Now I feel sorry for Jake...
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Chester Taylor is a Chicago Bear ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/05/chester-taylor-is-a-chicago-bear/[/url])
This hurts Minnesota. More carries for AP I guess.
Yeah and hopefully less fumbles ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Jake Delhomme cut by Panthers!!!
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4967109[/url] ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4967109[/url])
This has got to be the most suprising story of the offseason! Maybe not suprising but I tell you there has got to be a few praise breaks going on in Charlotte!
This was sad but I think that Jake was finished in Carolina....Fa'REAL!!!
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I almost went in when I heard the news.... Then I saw the press conference. Now I feel sorry for Jake...
Yeah me too! I just think his time was up unfortunately.
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I was thinking about this too for personal MADDEN reasons....maybe now i will be able to man up and not have the cpu burn me up and down the field....
But seriously, that turns the jets secondary into a MONSTER.....
Wasn't his production down this season? If that be so, then I don't think that makes much of an improvement to their secondary.....unless Sexy Rexy ::) can do something with him. :-\
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Well, the Titans let Kyle Vanden Bosch get away, and more than likely we;re gonna lose Keith Bulluck too. That ACL injury played right into their hands. Next issue will be keeping Chris Johnson happy because they offered LenDale White a $1.8 million tender offer when he was complaining about not playing a lot last year(I call it jealousy due to all of the attention CJ got) and he even said he wanted to be traded. CJ is making a pretty paltry salary considering what he did last year and the work he put in. More than likely the titans are looking for an injury to make some folks expendable. Sad, but true. They do it all of the time. More than likely Jevon Kearse will not be coming back either for that very reason.
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Jake Delhomme cut by Panthers!!!
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4967109[/url] ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4967109[/url])
This has got to be the most suprising story of the offseason! Maybe not suprising but I tell you there has got to be a few praise breaks going on in Charlotte!
I was real shocked by this cut. I thought he would at least battle with Matt Moore for the starting job. Since they let Peppers go, it was easy to cut Jake I guess. They let about 4 more vets go on defense as well. The season should be interesting. I'm looking to see what they are going to do in the draft.
I heard someone say the Panthers are trying to get as lean(money wise) as possible because of the possible strike in 2011.
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Wasn't his production down this season? If that be so, then I don't think that makes much of an improvement to their secondary.....unless Sexy Rexy ::) can do something with him. :-\
Cromartie is more of a physical man up type of CB....the kind that lets good ol Rex blitz like fire because he has 2 corners that can both play man very well...He's probably one of if not the most athletic corner in the league and he definitely has skills to go with...change of scenery might do him some good
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Cromartie is more of a physical man up type of CB....the kind that lets good ol Rex blitz like fire because he has 2 corners that can both play man very well...He's probably one of if not the most athletic corner in the league and he definitely has skills to go with...change of scenery might do him some good
Hmmmm, with that said, it will be interesting to see what he can do in a new uniform.
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anybody like what the bears did? two years in a row they are the major players.
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anybody like what the bears did? two years in a row they are the major players.
If they don't improve when it counts (during the regular season), are they really major players? :-\
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I was real shocked by this cut. I thought he would at least battle with Matt Moore for the starting job. Since they let Peppers go, it was easy to cut Jake I guess. They let about 4 more vets go on defense as well. The season should be interesting. I'm looking to see what they are going to do in the draft.
I heard someone say the Panthers are trying to get as lean(money wise) as possible because of the possible strike in 2011.
That was what I was expecting, not just a total cut. But I'm not suprised but more shocked!
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I'mma need ya'll to stay current with the off-season news: ::) :-\
Boldin trades one set of wings for another (http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?id=4972577) :o :o :o
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If they don't improve when it counts (during the regular season), are they really major players? :-\
point taken. i will give them a chance to see if them helps. a scout grade their secondary an d. i thought he was to generous. they need safety help bad.
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I'mma need ya'll to stay current with the off-season news: ::) :-\
Boldin trades one set of wings for another ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?id=4972577[/url]) :o :o :o
Joey Flacco has dreams of Touchdown passes dancing in his head.
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point taken. i will give them a chance to see if them helps. a scout grade their secondary an d. i thought he was to generous. they need safety help bad.
They should've tried to acquire Kerry Rhodes. :-\
Joey Flacco has dreams of Touchdown passes dancing in his head.
Provided Boldin can remain healthy. :-\
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Hmmmm, with that said, it will be interesting to see what he can do in a new uniform.
He'll have about 10 more kids.
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He'll have about 10 more kids.
LOL! New location = New Draft Picks
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FYI... (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/08/nfl-content-lands-on-hulu/)
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Big Ben at it again? (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4970050) :-\
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Big Ben at it again? ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4970050[/url]) :-\
He's been accused of sexual assault twice in less than a year. Something is up.
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He's been accused of sexual assault twice in less than a year. Something is up.
Agreed.
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How interesting would this (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/08/vikings-appear-to-have-interest-in-ladainian-tomlinson/) be?
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How interesting would this ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/08/vikings-appear-to-have-interest-in-ladainian-tomlinson/[/url]) be?
For alla dat, they should've kept CT. :-\
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Derek Anderson is toast (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/09/derek-anderson-is-done-in-cleveland/).
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Derek Anderson is toast ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/09/derek-anderson-is-done-in-cleveland/[/url]).
Been a long time coming. He'll wind up in:
Carolina
Oakland
KC (as a backup)
Arizona (to battle Leinart for the starting gig)
My thoughts, anyway.
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TJ lands in KC (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4980364)
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TJ lands in KC ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4980364[/url])
I wish him all the best.
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I wish him all the best.
:D :D
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Tomlinson will visit Vikings on Thursday (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35784326/ns/sports-player_news/)
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Seahawks trying to acquire McNabb (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35795751/sports/player_news)
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Seahawks trying to acquire McNabb ([url]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35795751/sports/player_news[/url])
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What on Earth is Philly thinkin'? :-\
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What on Earth is Philly thinkin'? :-\
Probably that Kevin Kolb is 8yrs younger and looked great when McNabb was injured. McNabb has been great, but maybe a change of scenery will do everybody good. I don't think Philly really appreciates him.
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Probably that Kevin Kolb is 8yrs younger and looked great when McNabb was injured. McNabb has been great, but maybe a change of scenery will do everybody good. I don't think Philly really appreciates him.
Hope that doesn't back fire on them. KC had that same mentality when they traded for the Golden Boy's back up and that didn't pan out too well.
It was a JaMarcus Russell experiment, either; but, it wasn't all they thought it would be. :-\
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Hope that doesn't back fire on them. KC had that same mentality when they traded for the Golden Boy's back up and that didn't pan out too well.
It was a JaMarcus Russell experiment, either; but, it wasn't all they thought it would be. :-\
Yea, the guy hasn't had a ton of snaps. At least with McNabb you know what you have (A Top 10 QB).
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What on Earth is Philly thinkin'? :-\
Note that the article says that the Seahawks have been calling Philly, not the other way around. IF Philly does deal a QB, the logical choice would be McNabb.
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Note that the article says that the Seahawks have been calling Philly, not the other way around. IF Philly does deal a QB, the logical choice would be McNabb.
I disagree that it's the logical choice.
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I disagree that it's the logical choice.
Ok. :D
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Ok. :D
:D :D
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http://www.ajc.com/news/sexual-assault-charges-as-360890.html (http://www.ajc.com/news/sexual-assault-charges-as-360890.html)
We sho iz gittin some attention now boy. ESPN been here in lil ole Millyville...LOL :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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I disagree that it's the logical choice.
McNabb has been a good QB for Philly but he hasn't won when it counted. We all know Kolb is the future, why not get rid of the past?!!! ?/? :-\ :-\
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McNabb has been a good QB for Philly but he hasn't won when it counted. We all know Kolb is the future, why not get rid of the past?!!! ?/? :-\ :-\
There have been many QBs who look good when they have to come in for a short burst, but when they're made the #1 QB on the depth chart they fall apart.
Just look at the recently released Derek Anderson. He went from a Pro-Bowler to one of the worst starting QBs in the league. It's easier to go out and perform when you know you're just a backup and you're not expected to carry your team.
IF a QB is to be traded, I agree with you, it should be McNabb. I also agree that, for better or worse, Kolb is the future of the Eagles. He had a few 300+ yard games when McNabb was out this past season and looked more than capable.
But this team is still very good. Why risk getting rid of McNabb?
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McNabb has been a good QB for Philly but he hasn't won when it counted. We all know Kolb is the future, why not get rid of the past?!!! ?/? :-\ :-\
There have been many QBs who look good when they have to come in for a short burst, but when they're made the #1 QB on the depth chart they fall apart.
Just look at the recently released Derek Anderson. He went from a Pro-Bowler to one of the worst starting QBs in the league. It's easier to go out and perform when you know you're just a backup and you're not expected to carry your team.
IF a QB is to be traded, I agree with you, it should be McNabb. I also agree that, for better or worse, Kolb is the future of the Eagles. He had a few 300+ yard games when McNabb was out this past season and looked more than capable.
But this team is still very good. Why risk getting rid of McNabb?
First, there's this. ^^^^
Second, there's the fact that perhaps you don't want the game riding on McNabb's arm. Perhaps, they should think about using McCoy's legs. *kanyeshrug*
Then, there's the Matt Cassel factor. He played in Brady's stead, but he didn't look like much in KC this past season. Who's to say that won't happen to Kolb.
We're speculating right now. Maybe, the move to Kolb will work for the Eagles the way the move to Young worked for the Niners back in the 90s. As a Cowboys fan, I pray that's NOT the case. :-\ :D
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In other news, two (of a very short list) potential suitors of Terrell Owens, the Bengals and the Ravens, have opted to go with other receivers. Will TO get picked up this season?
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In other news, two (of a very short list) potential suitors of Terrell Owens, the Bengals and the Ravens, have opted to go with other receivers. Will TO get picked up this season?
I'm sure some GM is willing to sacrifice team chemistry for moderate production. :D
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In other news, two (of a very short list) potential suitors of Terrell Owens, the Bengals and the Ravens, have opted to go with other receivers. Will TO get picked up this season?
The Bengals entertained TO to appease their Diva in-residence. ::)
Interesting that the Ravens passed up on him, though.
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Ben Roethlisberger admits "sexual contact". (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/10/report-roethlisberger-admitted-to-having-sexual-contact-with-alleged-victim/)
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Then, there's the Matt Cassel factor. He played in Brady's stead, but he didn't look like much in KC this past season. Who's to say that won't happen to Kolb.
Sometimes when a QB doesn't play up to par, it isn't always his fault. The pieces around the Qb could be the problem as well...lol.
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Sometimes when a QB doesn't play up to par, it isn't always his fault. The pieces around the Qb could be the problem as well...lol.
Then, there's the Matt Cassel factor. He played in Brady's stead, but he didn't look like much in KC this past season. Who's to say that won't happen to Kolb.
Exactly. 8)
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HOFer Merlin Olsen has died (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-Hall-of-Famer-Merlin-Olsen-dead-at-69-031110?GT1=39002)
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Delhomme, former QB of my Carolina Panthers visiting Cleveland Browns.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/03/11/delhomme.browns.ap/index.html?eref=sihp (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/03/11/delhomme.browns.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)
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LT set to visit jets (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d816e59e3&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)
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LT set to visit jets ([url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d816e59e3&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true[/url])
I think LT needs to go to the Vikes
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I think LT needs to go to the Vikes
according to the vid they were unable to work out a deal...
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LT set to visit jets ([url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d816e59e3&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true[/url])
I heard that on ESPN yesterday. :)
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I think LT needs to go to the Vikes
Why?
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LT set to visit jets ([url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d816e59e3&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true[/url])
Why would the Jets go from one 30 year old back to another? Doesn't LT have just as much tread on his tires, if not moreso, than TJ? ?/? :-\
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Why would the Jets go from one 30 year old back to another? Doesn't LT have just as much tread on his tires, if not moreso, than TJ? ?/? :-\
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Talk about inappropriate (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/12/cop-posed-for-photos-with-roethlisberger-before-investigating-complaint/?related=1).
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Just resign TJ for the price you're willing to pay LT. Rather simple.
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Just resign TJ for the price you're willing to pay LT. Rather simple.
They tried. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4957309)
"He and the Jets failed to reach a compromise on restructuring his contract; the team wanted him to take a pay cut."
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They tried. ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4957309[/url])
"He and the Jets failed to reach a compromise on restructuring his contract; the team wanted him to take a pay cut."
I know that.
There's nothing that assures TJ will get paid, what he wanted to get with the Jets, with a new team.
If he stays out there long enough, TJ will have to rethink his asking price for whatever team that may be interested.
On the Jets side of things, why LT? I'd think about getting younger in the backfield since Green is now 'The Man' in your backfield. *kanyeshrug*
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I know that.
There's nothing that assures TJ will get paid, what he wanted to get with the Jets, with a new team.
If he stays out there long enough, TJ will have to rethink his asking price for whatever team that may be interested.
On the Jets side of things, why LT? I'd think about getting younger in the backfield since Green is now 'The Man' in your backfield. *kanyeshrug*
You know he already signed with KC right?
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You know he already signed with KC right?
Actually, I did know that. :-\ :-[ :D
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'Skins sign Larry Johnson (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/free-agency/report-redskins-sign-running-b.html)
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'Skins sign Larry Johnson ([url]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/free-agency/report-redskins-sign-running-b.html[/url])
Does this make Washington close to be a contender?
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Does this make Washington close to be a contender?
Nope. Portis can't remain healthy enough and LJ is too old. In addition, they have no receivers and they don't know if they want Campbell as their QB.
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So.....
LT is signing with the Jets
Jake Delhomme is going to the Browns
Brady Quinn is traded to the Broncos
This is going to be an interesting football year ahead of us.
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So.....
LT is signing with the Jets
Jake Delhomme is going to the Browns
Brady Quinn is traded to the Broncos
This is going to be an interesting football year ahead of us.
The Jets move is baffling. If you're willing to pay LT that cash with the incentives, why not pay TJ who had nearly double the yardage output?
Quinn with the Broncos is an interesting look. Delhomme might get the starting job by default. ::)
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The Jets move is baffling. If you're willing to pay LT that cash with the incentives, why not pay TJ who had nearly double the yardage output?
Quinn with the Broncos is an interesting look. Delhomme might get the starting job by default. ::)
I think LT has something to prove this year! If I'm not mistaken, Jones was making more than what they are paying LT. *kanye shrug* :-\...lol
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The Jets move is baffling.
Bro, the person you're baffled by is Thomas Jones. The Jets tried to get him take a pay cut, he refused, then went somewhere else for less money anyway. :D It would be one thing if the Jets just dumped him without trying to give him a pay cut.
If they signed LT for the same amount they would've paid TJ, then it would be baffling, but LT is making less than Thomas Jones would've made this year had they kept him.
I think LT has something to prove this year! If I'm not mistaken, Jones was making more than what they are paying LT. *kanye shrug* :-\...lol
Right. Without taking a pay cut they would've paid Thomas Jones for one year what LT will be making in two.
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Bro, the person you're baffled by is Thomas Jones. The Jets tried to get him take a pay cut, he refused, then went somewhere else for less money anyway. :D It would be one thing if the Jets just dumped him without trying to give him a pay cut.
If they signed LT for the same amount they would've paid TJ, then it would be baffling, but LT is making less than Thomas Jones would've made this year had they kept him.
Right. Without taking a pay cut they would've paid Thomas Jones for one year what LT will be making in two.
Ok, got all that.
Still, why LT? Why not a younger cat, for less money like a Jerome Harrison (Browns)? :-\
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Ok, got all that.
Still, why LT? Why not a younger cat, for less money like a Jerome Harrison (Browns)? :-\
Jerome who? Doesn't he work at the Qwik-E-Mart on Pine St.? :D :D :D
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Jerome who? Doesn't he work at the Qwik-E-Mart on Pine St.? :D :D :D
Uh, he's the guy who rushed for more yards and YPC avg than one LT...in fewer attempts. He's also third on the single-game rushing list.
Imagine a guy like that behind the Jets O-line. Yea, laugh it up, fuzzball. :DMovie reference, please.
I'm jus' sayin'. *kanyeshrug*
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Jerome who? Doesn't he work at the Qwik-E-Mart on Pine St.? :D :D :D
Uh, he's the guy who rushed for more yards and YPC avg than one LT...in fewer attempts. He's also third on the single-game rushing list.
Oh. I guess he only works at the Qwik-E-Mart part time. :D
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Oh. I guess he only works at the Qwik-E-Mart part time. :D
And yet, still outproduced your newly acquired RB. Imagine that. 8)
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And yet, still outproduced your newly acquired RB. Imagine that. 8)
(http://www.recognizedexpert.com/expert/blogs/bob-sommers/attachments/49d1209638935-worlds-oldest-mouse-mouse_with_helmet.jpg)
You know what? I'll pass.
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And yet, still outproduced your newly acquired RB. Imagine that. 8)
I don't think his one decent season of performance compare to LT's resume...
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I don't think his one decent season of performance compare to LT's resume...
No question. At the same time, we're talkin' about age and potential.
The NFL is a lot like Janet's song, 'What have you done for me, lately'.
I ain't sayin' it's right, I'm sayin' it is what it is.
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Two weeks ago:
I hope the Jets are looking for an insurance policy as we type. Preferably a cheap Policy named Tomlinson. :)
;D
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JaMarcus Russell still doesn't get it. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/15/no-sign-of-jamarcus-russell-at-raiders-workouts/)
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Big Ben at it again? ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4970050[/url]) :-\
It has been said that 3 strikes and you're out. Hopefully he won't be out for the sake of two. The Steeler Nation is highly concerned over this. He treats the offseason like it's spring break for a college kid. C'mon Ben.
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JaMarcus Russell still doesn't get it. ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/15/no-sign-of-jamarcus-russell-at-raiders-workouts/[/url])
What would make you think he would? :-\
It has been said that 3 strikes and you're out. Hopefully he won't be out for the sake of two. The Steeler Nation is highly concerned over this. He treats the offseason like it's spring break for a college kid. C'mon Ben.
Great analogy.
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It has been said that 3 strikes and you're out. Hopefully he won't be out for the sake of two. The Steeler Nation is highly concerned over this. He treats the offseason like it's spring break for a college kid. C'mon Ben.
Rapistburger...
What would make you think he would? :-\
Nothing he's shown me so far. He's on his way out of the league.
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Rapistburger...
Nothing he's shown me so far. He's on his way out of the league.
So wrong; so funny but SO wrong. :-\ :D :-\
And, yea he is. *kanyeshrug*
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Leinart will have to earn the starting job. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/17/report-anderson-appears-headed-for-cardinals/)
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Leinart will have to earn the starting job. ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/17/report-anderson-appears-headed-for-cardinals/[/url])
Did anyone think he wouldn't have to do so?
I, for one, don't think Matt's cut out for the NFL, actually. BTJM.
And, Derek Anderson? Matt may have nothing to fear. :-\
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JaMarcus Russell still doesn't get it. ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/15/no-sign-of-jamarcus-russell-at-raiders-workouts/[/url])
What would make you think he would? :-\
Leinart will have to earn the starting job. ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/17/report-anderson-appears-headed-for-cardinals/[/url])
Did anyone think he wouldn't have to do so?
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/03/18/heath_ledger_as_the_joker.jpg)
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([url]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/03/18/heath_ledger_as_the_joker.jpg[/url])
:D :D :D :D :D
It's probably because those two SUCK and really shouldn't be starting for anyone's squad.
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:D :D :D :D :D
It's probably because those two SUCK and really shouldn't be starting for anyone's squad.
I think the Raiders are too proud to admit they totally missed the mark selecting JaMarcus. He just hasn't been good.
I haven't seen enough of Leinart yet. Maybe he's ready to be the man. ?/?
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I think the Raiders are too proud to admit they totally missed the mark selecting JaMarcus. He just hasn't been good.
I haven't seen enough of Leinart yet. Maybe he's ready to be the man. ?/?
Agreed concerning da Raaaaaaidas and JR.
I don't think Leinart has the skill set. The NFL ain't the Pac-10. :-\
I also find lefties to be very suspect. I can only think of two really good ones: Ken 'The Snake' Stabler and Steve Young
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Hmmm....as a Cowboys fan, this makes me intrigued (http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/03/saints_running_back_mike_bell.html)
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Hmmm....as a Cowboys fan, this makes me intrigued ([url]http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/03/saints_running_back_mike_bell.html[/url])
meh...the eagles O Line isn't like the saints O Line. But the best of luck to them.
I never understood how some players would leave a team that just won a superbowl...especially for the first time. Why won't players try to build a dynasty like the 49ers in the 80's, the cowboys in the 90's and the patriots in the...um...00's :-\ :D
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meh...the eagles O Line isn't like the saints O Line. But the best of luck to them.
I never understood how some players would leave a team that just won a superbowl...especially for the first time. Why won't players try to build a dynasty like the 49ers in the 80's, the cowboys in the 90's and the patriots in the...um...00's :-\ :D
It's true. Some times it's the team too. Remember when the Florida Marlins won the World Series twice and dismantled the team after each Championship?
I don't get that.
Championship teams aren't easy to come by. Why not try to keep the team together as much as you can to go for another one? Why fix what ain't broke?
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meh...the eagles O Line isn't like the saints O Line. But the best of luck to them.
I never understood how some players would leave a team that just won a superbowl...especially for the first time. Why won't players try to build a dynasty like the 49ers in the 80's, the cowboys in the 90's and the patriots in the...um...00's :-\ :D
It's true. Some times it's the team too. Remember when the Florida Marlins won the World Series twice and dismantled the team after each Championship?
I don't get that.
Championship teams aren't easy to come by. Why not try to keep the team together as much as you can to go for another one? Why fix what ain't broke?
I've got nothing except it isn't as much about championships for the franchise as it's about maintaining a certain bottom line.
Even that 'excuse' doesn't make sense in my mind. :-\
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...what do you all think about the Overtime Rules?
...btw, Favre will be back and so will that whole team. Scary...
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...what do you all think about the Overtime Rules?
...btw, Favre will be back and so will that whole team. Scary...
Not the whole team. Chester Taylor is gone and he took 700+ yards of Total Offense with him.
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Not the whole team. Chester Taylor is gone and he took 700+ yards of Total Offense with him.
Between AP, Rice and Harvin, they won't miss Taylor...that much. :-\
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If I'm the Viikings, I would worry more about AP's fumblitis ?/?
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Between AP, Rice and Harvin, they won't miss Taylor...that much. :-\
Assuming that everybody steps up their production a tad this year, of course.
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Assuming that everybody steps up their production a tad this year, of course.
If I'm the Viikings, I would worry more about AP's fumblitis ?/?
This. ^^^
If that ALONE happens, AP can probably pick up at least another 200-250 yards and 3-5 TDs.
All Harvin needs to do is find a way to manage his migraine headaches. People'll key on Rice and allow Harvin to work his magic in the slot.
And, if Berrian EVER decides to show up and be a productive #2... :o :-\
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MIke Bell is an eagle (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/368032-its-official-hb-mike-bell-is-an-eagle)
This move could prove dangerous for my Cowboys...especially if Bell can stay healthy. Great move by the Eagles
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MIke Bell is an eagle ([url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/368032-its-official-hb-mike-bell-is-an-eagle[/url])
This move could prove dangerous for my Cowboys...especially if Bell can stay healthy. Great move by the Eagles
...dag. Win the Superbowl and go, huh? :-\
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MIke Bell is an eagle ([url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/368032-its-official-hb-mike-bell-is-an-eagle[/url])
This move could prove dangerous for my Cowboys...especially if Bell can stay healthy. Great move by the Eagles
Great...we're already not stable as it is. But that's another story.
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Sign of things to come? http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-roethlisbergerinvestigation&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-roethlisbergerinvestigation&prov=ap&type=lgns)
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Andy Reid: Team is "evaluating" offers for McNabb. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/24/reid-says-eagles-are-getting-offers-for-mcnabb/?related=1)
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Andy Reid: Team is "evaluating" offers for McNabb. ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/24/reid-says-eagles-are-getting-offers-for-mcnabb/?related=1[/url])
They should trade mcnabb but not vick. You might as well go with the one with less injuries and more tread on the tires :-\
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Seems to me like someone got PAID. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/24/report-roethlisbergers-accuser-declines-interview/)
I guess he's learned HIS lesson. :-\
This is why I believe ROFLisberger should be suspended, even without an indictment.
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Seems to me like someone got PAID. ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/24/report-roethlisbergers-accuser-declines-interview/[/url])
I guess he's learned HIS lesson. :-\
This is why I believe ROFLisberger should be suspended, even without an indictment.
Absolutely. His off-field behavior is deplorable and Goodell, who claims to want to make an example of cats like Vick, should make a move...at least, 4 games.
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Absolutely. His off-field behavior is deplorable and Goodell, who claims to want to make an example of cats like Vick, should make a move...at least, 4 games.
Four games sounds about right. If he was indicted, as much as a whole season would be within reason.
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Four games sounds about right. If he was indicted, as much as a whole season would be within reason.
Indeed.
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Absolutely. His off-field behavior is deplorable and Goodell, who claims to want to make an example of cats like Vick, should make a move...at least, 4 games.
I would agree, if there were some evidence other than a mere claim- which now isn't much of a claim. If I were the commissioner, I wouldn't act based solely on suspiscion.
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I would agree, if there were some evidence other than a mere claim- which now isn't much of a claim. If I were the commissioner, I wouldn't act based solely on suspiscion.
I'd agree if this were the first offense.
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I would agree, if there were some evidence other than a mere claim- which now isn't much of a claim. If I were the commissioner, I wouldn't act based solely on suspiscion.
I don't think guilt or innocence is Goodell's only concern. Roethlisberger represents more than himself. He represents the Steelers and the NFL. He has a civil claim against him from last year sexual assault, and another accusation this year for sexual assault. Even if he's innocent, he's put him self in some TERRIBLE situations.
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I don't think guilt or innocence is Goodell's only concern. Roethlisberger represents more than himself. He represents the Steelers and the NFL. He has a civil claim against him from last year sexual assault, and another accusation this year for sexual assault. Even if he's innocent, he's put him self in some TERRIBLE situations.
I understand what you're saying. My problem with taking any action at the moment is that both situations are only claims at the moment. In the first claim, if I'm not mistaken, he's countersued. In the second claim, the alleged victim is refusing to cooperate. I'm not going to speculate about a payoff. Sure, it's a possibility, but I can't claim a possibility as reality. So, I think no action by the commissioner is the only action he can take at the moment. The instant that anything is substantiated, then there's basis for action.
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Four games sounds about right. If he was indicted, as much as a whole season would be within reason.
I say suspend him for the entire season just for being dumb. I live in the Middle GA area and I can tell you there is nothing much to do here. Everything closes up at 10pm and if anything is open after that, it's legs. If he wanted to go out, he should've, went to ATL. Why is a 2-time superbowl winning QB looking for night-life fun in MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga?
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I understand what you're saying. My problem with taking any action at the moment is that both situations are only claims at the moment. In the first claim, if I'm not mistaken, he's countersued. In the second claim, the alleged victim is refusing to cooperate. I'm not going to speculate about a payoff. Sure, it's a possibility, but I can't claim a possibility as reality. So, I think no action by the commissioner is the only action he can take at the moment. The instant that anything is substantiated, then there's basis for action.
I guess we'll have to wait and see what (if anything) he does.
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I guess we'll have to wait and see what (if anything) he does.
One way or the other, I can't wait for this saga to end. Being a Steeler fan, the team needs to know how to plan- for a season with or without Big Ben.
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I understand what you're saying. My problem with taking any action at the moment is that both situations are only claims at the moment. In the first claim, if I'm not mistaken, he's countersued. In the second claim, the alleged victim is refusing to cooperate. I'm not going to speculate about a payoff. Sure, it's a possibility, but I can't claim a possibility as reality. So, I think no action by the commissioner is the only action he can take at the moment. The instant that anything is substantiated, then there's basis for action.
I think you take action for the good of your product, the NFL. There have been too many players actin' like they're above the law when it comes to off-field matters (or, just making poor decisions in general).
Somehow, there needs to be a change; one would prefer it to be an internal change; but, for now, an external one should be a proper motivator.
And if not Goodell, then the team should suspend him. Hey Mike, if you're so concerned about the behavior of your franchise QB then show it. Suspend him.
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I think you take action for the good of your product, the NFL. There have been too many players actin' like they're above the law when it comes to off-field matters (or, just making poor decisions in general).
Somehow, there needs to be a change; one would prefer it to be an internal change; but, for now, an external one should be a proper motivator.
I definitely feel you, in principle. I guess my primary concern is for the fact that sometimes, people see opportunities to cash in on someone else's celebrity status. All it takes is for someone to cry wolf and the celebrity's good name is tarnished, even if there was no wrong-doing on their part. I'm not saying that Ben is totally innocent at all. I'm just not rushing to judgement one way or the other. And, that's why I wouldn't feel that action by the commissioner would be warranted.
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I definitely feel you, in principle. I guess my primary concern is for the fact that sometimes, people see opportunities to cash in on someone else's celebrity status. All it takes is for someone to cry wolf and the celebrity's good name is tarnished, even if there was no wrong-doing on their part. I'm not saying that Ben is totally innocent at all. I'm just not rushing to judgement one way or the other. And, that's why I wouldn't feel that action by the commissioner would be warranted.
If you and I, cats you AREN'T in the league, can see this fact about folks, wouldn't that be even more reason for cats IN the league to make better decisions? :-\
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If you and I, cats you AREN'T in the league, can see this fact about folks, wouldn't that be even more reason for cats IN the league to make better decisions? :-\
Can't disagree with you there. But, the fact still remains that these celebrity cats-when you strip the celebrity status- are just regular cats like you and I, subject to the same errors in judgement that you and I are. Celebrity status doesn't make one smart, unfortunately.
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Associated Press: Eagles want a top 42 pick for Donovan McNabb. (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36044448/)
It looks like he's really on the block.
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Associated Press: Eagles want a top 42 pick for Donovan McNabb. ([url]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36044448/[/url])
It looks like he's really on the block.
Well, not really, considering the price that a potential suitor would have to pay for a thousand year-old veteran with battle scars to boot.
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Associated Press: Eagles want a top 42 pick for Donovan McNabb. ([url]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36044448/[/url])
It looks like he's really on the block.
Well, not really, considering the price that a potential suitor would have to pay for a thousand year-old veteran with battle scars to boot.
Whether or not someone actually bites, he's still 'on the block'.
...which will REALLY come back to haunt them if nobody picks him up.
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Pacman Jones agrees to terms with.... (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/26/pacman-jones-expected-to-become-a-lion-next-week/)
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Whether or not someone actually bites, he's still 'on the block'.
...which will REALLY come back to haunt them if nobody picks him up.
How so? If noone bites, McNabb does what he does normally...if for no other reason than NOBODY wants to go out lookin' like a sap in their final years as a pro. Nobody.
Let me also state that any trade to the Raiders should be avoided, at all costs, by McNabb. Heck, I'd retire first. :-\
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How so? If noone bites, McNabb does what he does normally...if for no other reason than NOBODY wants to go out lookin' like a sap in their final years as a pro. Nobody.
Let me also state that any trade to the Raiders should be avoided, at all costs, by McNabb. Heck, I'd retire first. :-\
Me too!
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Pacman Jones agrees to terms with.... ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/26/pacman-jones-expected-to-become-a-lion-next-week/[/url])
wow...i'm not a fan of pac-man because of all the off season drama he causes. He should of stuck with wrestling...
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Pacman Jones agrees to terms with.... ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/26/pacman-jones-expected-to-become-a-lion-next-week/[/url])
Good move for Detroit. Bad place for a cat like Jones. He'll last half a season. :-\
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How so? If noone bites, McNabb does what he does normally...if for no other reason than NOBODY wants to go out lookin' like a sap in their final years as a pro. Nobody.
Let me also state that any trade to the Raiders should be avoided, at all costs, by McNabb. Heck, I'd retire first. :-\
Main Entry: con·trar·i·an
Pronunciation: \kən-ˈtrer-ē-ən, kän-\
Function: noun
Definition: a person who takes a contrary position or attitude; examples: sjonathan02, LaRue1212
(I figure LaRue doesn't come in here so she won't see this) :D :D :D
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Main Entry: con·trar·i·an
Pronunciation: \kən-ˈtrer-ē-ən, kän-\
Function: noun
Definition: a person who takes a contrary position or attitude; examples: sjonathan02, LaRue1212
(I figure LaRue doesn't come in here so she won't see this) :D :D :D
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Pacman Jones agrees to terms with.... ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/26/pacman-jones-expected-to-become-a-lion-next-week/[/url])
Not so fast. Here's what the Lions are saying........
A report surfaced this morning that free agent cornerback Pacman Jones had"agreed to terms''with the Detroit Lions and would join the team next week.
However, according to a source close to the situation, the team has not reached any agreement with Jones. Another source called it "way off base.''
At the recent NFL owners meetings, Lions general manager Martin Mayhew said a Jones signing was not "imminent.''
Mayhew said the next step in the process of possibly signing Jones was a having a sit-down, face-to-face meeting with him. Mayhew said that interview hasn't even been scheduled yet.
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Main Entry: con·trar·i·an
Pronunciation: \kən-ˈtrer-ē-ən, kän-\
Function: noun
Definition: a person who takes a contrary position or attitude; examples: sjonathan02, LaRue1212
(I figure LaRue doesn't come in here so she won't see this) :D :D :D
AF and ALL of his multiple counterparts before and hereafter (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evader)
So, care to answer? :D
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Not so fast. Here's what the Lions are saying........
A report surfaced this morning that free agent cornerback Pacman Jones had"agreed to terms''with the Detroit Lions and would join the team next week.
However, according to a source close to the situation, the team has not reached any agreement with Jones. Another source called it "way off base.''
At the recent NFL owners meetings, Lions general manager Martin Mayhew said a Jones signing was not "imminent.''
Mayhew said the next step in the process of possibly signing Jones was a having a sit-down, face-to-face meeting with him. Mayhew said that interview hasn't even been scheduled yet.
Thanks for the clarification. I guess we'll have to wait and see if it pans out.
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AF and ALL of his multiple counterparts before and hereafter ([url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evader[/url])
Uh, even with all of that you haven't answered my question.
1 : to slip away
2 : to take refuge in escape or avoidance
transitive verb
1 : to elude by dexterity or stratagem
In other words, I'm a
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:D
Shinobi FTW!
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1 : to slip away
2 : to take refuge in escape or avoidance
transitive verb
1 : to elude by dexterity or stratagem
In other words, I'm a
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:D
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Shinobi FTW!
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1 : to slip away
2 : to take refuge in escape or avoidance
transitive verb
1 : to elude by dexterity or stratagem
In other words, I'm a
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Shinobi FTW!
to avoid answering directly : turn aside
to avoid facing up to
In other words, you're more like
(http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/tigerwoods.jpg) :-\
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Good move for Detroit. Bad place for a cat like Jones. He'll last half a season. :-\
Detroit is said to have the most strip clubs per capita in the United States. :o :o :o
Motown here he comes.
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to avoid answering directly : turn aside
to avoid facing up to
In other words, you're more like
([url]http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/tigerwoods.jpg[/url]) :-\
So now I'm Tiger because I didn't answer your trap question?
I don't care what you call me! I'm STILL not biting!!!
:D :D :D
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So now I'm Tiger because I didn't answer your trap question?
Not a trap question. But, it's cool since it's clear you don't have an answer.
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Detroit is said to have the most strip clubs per capita in the United States. :o :o :o
Motown here he comes.
Let's do the math.....
(Detroit x (Strip clubs + Casinos) / Common Sense) + Pacman = (http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/images/breaking%20news.JPG)
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Latest on McNabb situation (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20100326_Vikings_tops_on_McNabb_s_trade_wish_list.html)
From the article:
McNabb, who remains at his home in Arizona, is not talking about this matter. On Wednesday, however, he released a statement saying that he hoped "whichever direction the Eagles decide to go in, they do it quickly."
...if the team were to ship its franchise quarterback elsewhere, the Vikings would be his first choice, according to sources close to the situation.
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Latest on McNabb situation ([url]http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20100326_Vikings_tops_on_McNabb_s_trade_wish_list.html[/url])
From the article:
McNabb, who remains at his home in Arizona, is not talking about this matter. On Wednesday, however, he released a statement saying that he hoped "whichever direction the Eagles decide to go in, they do it quickly."
...if the team were to ship its franchise quarterback elsewhere, the Vikings would be his first choice, according to sources close to the situation.
It'd be mine, too, with all those weapons.
But, Favre'll be back...if for no other reason than he can't discipline himself enough to stay away. :-\
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According (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8171fb14&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true) to this article, McNabb might have a few options...
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Not so fastWillie Parker signs with 'Skins (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36151747/ns/sports-player_news/)
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Not so fastWillie Parker signs with 'Skins ([url]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36151747/ns/sports-player_news/[/url])
Good for him. I liked him... before the injuries.
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Good for him. I liked him... before the injuries.
Everyone liked him...before the injuries. :D
On another note, the 'Boys released 5 time Pro-Bowl LT Flozell Adams and S Ken Hamlin. ;D
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McNabb dealt to 'Skins for two picks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5055346)
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Skins are pretty busy...lol!
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McNabb dealt to 'Skins for two picks ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5055346[/url])
Beat me to it! This is the happiest day for one of my sons (a Redskins fan) and the saddest day for another one of my sons (you guessed it, an Eagles fan). I kinda feel bad for Jason Campbell. Now that I think about it, suddenly I feel bad for McNabb. If the Skins don't improve their offensive line, this will be a long season for Donovan.
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McNabb dealt to 'Skins for two picks ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5055346[/url])
Now the Eagles have to pray that Kevin "Corn on the" Kolb is as good as they think. He's the franchise now.
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Now the Eagles have to pray that Kevin "Corn on the" Kolb is as good as they think. He's the franchise now.
*In my best Keyshawn Johnson* C'mon man. You're better than that!
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*In my best Keyshawn Johnson* C'mon man. You're better than that!
Clearly I'm not. :D :D :D
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Clearly I'm not. :D :D :D
:D :D :D
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Not exactly NFL related news... (http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/personal/04/05/emmett.smith.family.history/index.html?hpt=C2)
But it does involve a former cowboy...
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Now the Eagles have to pray that Kevin "Corn on the" Kolb is as good as they think. He's the franchise now.
I seriously doubt it. I know MacNabb is getting old but I still think the Eagles did him wrong.
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I seriously doubt it. I know MacNabb is getting old but I still think the Eagles did him wrong.
My sentiments exactly. Besides, Philly fans (in Philly, that is) are so fickle. I welcome McNabb to the DC area. Shoot, I may even watch a Redskin game or two now. (Since I'm in the middle of the DC and B'more market areas, I get nothing but Redskin and Ravens games anyway, ugh!)
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Not exactly NFL related news... ([url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/personal/04/05/emmett.smith.family.history/index.html?hpt=C2[/url])
But it does involve a former cowboy...
Thank you for posting that. Very relevant story.
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I seriously doubt it. I know MacNabb is getting old but I still think the Eagles did him wrong.
I don't think he's as good as McNabb, either. But, truth be told, I don't think Vick is, either. The real problem is there's no one in the upcoming draft that is, either.
As stated, no O-line improvement means a tough year for McNabb. And, they don't really have WRs like that, either. :-\
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My whole issue with this trade, and the talk surrounding it, is the big "knock" on McNabb is that he never won a Superbowl with the Eagles. So, to SJ's point, he's being replaced by two lesser guys who won't even get the Eagles to the big dance for years to come. So, speaking in the short-term, what are the Eagles gaining if the whole move was an effort to improve their chances of getting to the Super Bowl?
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My whole issue with this trade, and the talk surrounding it, is the big "knock" on McNabb is that he never won a Superbowl with the Eagles. So, to SJ's point, he's being replaced by two lesser guys who won't even get the Eagles to the big dance for years to come. So, speaking in the short-term, what are the Eagles gaining if the whole move was an effort to improve their chances of getting to the Super Bowl?
Indeed.
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My whole issue with this trade, and the talk surrounding it, is the big "knock" on McNabb is that he never won a Superbowl with the Eagles. So, to SJ's point, he's being replaced by two lesser guys who won't even get the Eagles to the big dance for years to come. So, speaking in the short-term, what are the Eagles gaining if the whole move was an effort to improve their chances of getting to the Super Bowl?
We know Vick is no McNabb. We really don't know about Kolb though. He did look pretty great in the chances he got.
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We know Vick is no McNabb. We really don't know about Kolb though. He did look pretty great in the chances he got.
He also looked awful in another game, replacing McNabb. As a first-year starter (assuming he remains that way), there's just not enough experience there for me to feel like he can take them all the way. Don't get me wrong, I think he's good, from what I've seen. I just think his time for greatness is not now. Re: Vick, I hope the best for him, but not only is he no McNabb, he's no Kolb either.
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He also looked awful in another game, replacing McNabb. As a first-year starter (assuming he remains that way), there's just not enough experience there for me to feel like he can take them all the way. Don't get me wrong, I think he's good, from what I've seen. I just think his time for greatness is not now. Re: Vick, I hope the best for him, but not only is he no McNabb, he's no Kolb either.
I'll take a 'wait and see' approach on Kolb and agree with you on Vick. I don't think Vick gets a shot anywhere else unless Kolb gets injured and he makes the most of it.
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I'll take a 'wait and see' approach on Kolb and agree with you on Vick. I don't think Vick gets a shot anywhere else unless Kolb gets injured and he makes the most of it.
Agreed
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He also looked awful in another game, replacing McNabb. As a first-year starter (assuming he remains that way), there's just not enough experience there for me to feel like he can take them all the way. Don't get me wrong, I think he's good, from what I've seen. I just think his time for greatness is not now. Re: Vick, I hope the best for him, but not only is he no McNabb, he's no Kolb either.
Agreed.
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I'll take a 'wait and see' approach on Kolb and agree with you on Vick.
Curiouser and curiouser. Did you take this same approach with Romo?
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Curiouser and curiouser. Did you take this same approach with Romo?
Good question. Its hard to replace a player with good "stats" for someone unproven.
Romo hasn't even gotten them to the "Pre" Dance yet, so how long do you stick with him?
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Good question. Its hard to replace a player with good "stats" for someone unproven.
Romo hasn't even gotten them to the "Pre" Dance yet, so how long do you stick with him?
He is improving, though; got them to the playoffs, for the first time. I think you stick with him until he proves to be a detriment.
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I'll take a 'wait and see' approach on Kolb and agree with you on Vick. I don't think Vick gets a shot anywhere else unless Kolb gets injured and he makes the most of it.
Curiouser and curiouser. Did you take this same approach with Romo?
You saw Alice in Wonderland too huh? :D
I'm taking a 'wait and see' approach with Kolb because he's never been a starter in the NFL. So yes, before Romo became a full-time starter I took the same approach. 8)
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You saw Alice in Wonderland too huh? :D
I'm taking a 'wait and see' approach with Kolb because he's never been a starter in the NFL. So yes, before Romo became a full-time starter I took the same approach. 8)
The movie? Nope. I used to watch 'Batman: The Animated Series' and the Mad Hatter used the phrase. 8)
As far as the question, ok.
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The movie? Nope. I used to watch 'Batman: The Animated Series' and the Mad Hatter used the phrase. 8)
As far as the question, ok.
Really? Interesting.
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Marc Bulger, finally, released by Rams (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/05/AR2010040503349.html)
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Does Tiki Barber count? :)
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Does Tiki Barber count? :)
You're the boss, so he does if you say he does. :D :D :D
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Does Tiki Barber count? :)
You're the boss, so he does if you say he does. :D :D :D
Uh...no.
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Big Ben WON'T be charged (http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/04/09/report-ben-roethlisberger-wont-charged-sexual-assault/)
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Big Ben WON'T be charged ([url]http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/04/09/report-ben-roethlisberger-wont-charged-sexual-assault/[/url])
I'm not surprised.
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Holmes to Jets; Washington part of the deal? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Jets-RB-Washington-part-of-Santonio-Holmes-trade?urn=nfl,233525)
If you can get past his off-field behavior, the acquistion of Holmes is quite a coup for Sexy Rexy and the Jets.
If Sanchez can improve his play, the Jets, now, have become VERY dangerous in the AFC. :o
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Holmes to Jets; Washington part of the deal? ([url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Jets-RB-Washington-part-of-Santonio-Holmes-trade?urn=nfl,233525[/url])
If you can get past his off-field behavior, the acquistion of Holmes is quite a coup for Sexy Rexy and the Jets.
If Sanchez can improve his play, the Jets, now, have become VERY dangerous in the AFC. :o
I was wondering if anybody else has been watching the Jets this off-season: Tomlinson, Holmes, Cromartie; and they are going after Jason Taylor. They are improving on both sides.
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I was wondering if anybody else has been watching the Jets this off-season: Tomlinson, Holmes, Cromartie; and they are going after Jason Taylor. They are improving on both sides.
Yes. they. are.
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I was wondering if anybody else has been watching the Jets this off-season
C'mon son.
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C'mon son.
He meant NON-fans, homer. ::) :D
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He meant NON-fans.
You're assuming, sjeezy.
homer.
I literally lol'd. :D :D :D
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Big Ben WON'T be charged ([url]http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/04/09/report-ben-roethlisberger-wont-charged-sexual-assault/[/url])
Not Confirmed. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/10/24-hours-later-no-confirmation-of-report-that-roethlisberger-wont-face-charges/?related=1)
"On Friday evening, ESPN reported that Bright will announce that charges won't be pursued.
Said Bright in response, per Sean Leahy of USA Today: "I don't know where they're getting that information. I haven't announced anything yet. I'll make my announcement at 2 p.m. Monday."
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Dag Nabbit, My Steelers traded Santonio Holmes. I guess I'm gonna have to have faith in the front office though. When they traded Plaxico, I was like what????????????? However it worked out so all hope is not gone I guess.
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Dag Nabbit, My Steelers traded Santonio Holmes. I guess I'm gonna have to have faith in the front office though. When they traded Plaxico, I was like what????????????? However it worked out so all hope is not gone I guess.
With the exception of Big Ben, the Steelers seem to have a good nose for sniffing out the problem children and sending them elsewhere before they become major distractions for the team.
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He meant NON-fans, homer. ::) :D
;D
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He meant NON-fans, homer. ::) :D
You're assuming, sjeezy.
;D
Correctly, apparently. 8)
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With the exception of Big Ben, the Steelers seem to have a good nose for sniffing out the problem children and sending them elsewhere before they become major distractions for the team.
Yeah, but they know that if dude keeps acting a fool, they'll have to make a "drastic" change....gotta' love the NFL's legal department, though. I'll bet that if Vick had come clean to the league, all the drama he went through would have been avoided.
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Speaking of being correct:
Big Ben WON'T be charged ([url]http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/04/09/report-ben-roethlisberger-wont-charged-sexual-assault/[/url])
Not Confirmed. ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/10/24-hours-later-no-confirmation-of-report-that-roethlisberger-wont-face-charges/?related=1[/url])
"On Friday evening, ESPN reported that Bright will announce that charges won't be pursued.
Said Bright in response, per Sean Leahy of USA Today: "I don't know where they're getting that information. I haven't announced anything yet. I'll make my announcement at 2 p.m. Monday."
Meant to tell you, yesterday, that the prosecutor was just trying to save face.
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Speaking of being correct:
Meant to tell you, yesterday, that the prosecutor was just trying to save face.
You know, after listening to the prosecutor- though he did not implicate Ben in any way- I think I'm changing my stance on a possible suspension for Ben. I think he should be suspended at least 4 games for actions unbecoming a professional athelete. I took my previous stance because I didn't have any of the details. Having at least some details now, it's clear that even if Ben didn't rape the woman, he didn't exercise good judgement AT ALL. He's old enough now to know better. I think Goddell should suspend him. (I wince as I say that, being a Steeler fan, though I have full confidence in Charlie Batch)
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You know, after listening to the prosecutor- though he did not implicate Ben in any way- I think I'm changing my stance on a possible suspension for Ben. I think he should be suspended at least 4 games for actions unbecoming a professional athelete. I took my previous stance because I didn't have any of the details. Having at least some details now, it's clear that even if Ben didn't rape the woman, he didn't exercise good judgement AT ALL. He's old enough now to know better. I think Goddell should suspend him. (I wince as I say that, being a Steeler fan, though I have full confidence in Charlie Batch)
Ah, the conviction of the Holy Spirit...of football. :D
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Being a Steeler fan I say 4 PRE-SEASON games ;D ;D, or two regular season games, or 8 quarters regular season that don't have to necessarily be done consecutively, or fine him heavy (organization), or "Time Out" for the next two offseasons (organization) ;D ;D ;D
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You know, after listening to the prosecutor- though he did not implicate Ben in any way- I think I'm changing my stance on a possible suspension for Ben. I think he should be suspended at least 4 games for actions unbecoming a professional athelete. I took my previous stance because I didn't have any of the details. Having at least some details now, it's clear that even if Ben didn't rape the woman, he didn't exercise good judgement AT ALL. He's old enough now to know better. I think Goddell should suspend him. (I wince as I say that, being a Steeler fan, though I have full confidence in Charlie Batch)
O rly?
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O rly?
Yes, really. He has played well for the Steelers every time he was given an opportunity. I don't see him starting a full season, but if he has to start the first 4 games of the season, he won't hurt us.
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Yes, really. He has played well for the Steelers every time he was given an opportunity. I don't see him starting a full season, but if he has to start the first 4 games of the season, he won't hurt us.
I concur.
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You know, after listening to the prosecutor- though he did not implicate Ben in any way- I think I'm changing my stance on a possible suspension for Ben. I think he should be suspended at least 4 games for actions unbecoming a professional athelete. I took my previous stance because I didn't have any of the details. Having at least some details now, it's clear that even if Ben didn't rape the woman, he didn't exercise good judgement AT ALL. He's old enough now to know better. I think Goddell should suspend him. (I wince as I say that, being a Steeler fan, though I have full confidence in Charlie Batch)
O rly?
Yes, really. He has played well for the Steelers every time he was given an opportunity. I don't see him starting a full season, but if he has to start the first 4 games of the season, he won't hurt us.
Riiiiight. And Mark Sanchez is gonna throw for 5,000 yds, 40 TDs and 7 Ints this year.
On a completely unrelated note.......Yo Sjon! What's that term you used to describe me? 'Homer'?
:D :D :D
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Riiiiight. And Mark Sanchez is gonna throw for 5,000 yds, 40 TDs and 7 Ints this year.
On a completely unrelated note.......Yo Sjon! What's that term you used to describe me? 'Homer'?
:D :D :D
PPPPWWWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!! :D :D :D
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Riiiiight. And Mark Sanchez is gonna throw for 5,000 yds, 40 TDs and 7 Ints this year.
On a completely unrelated note.......Yo Sjon! What's that term you used to describe me? 'Homer'?
:D :D :D
My statement- plausable. Your statement- a HUGE stretch. You're not a Steeler fan, so I don't expect you to keep up with Batch's performance as a starter or in relief of the likes of Kordell Stewart, Tommy Maddox and of course, Big Ben. Like I said, he won't hurt us. We won't lose games because of him.
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My statement- plausable. Your statement- a HUGE stretch. You're not a Steeler fan, so I don't expect you to keep up with Batch's performance as a starter or in relief of the likes of Kordell Stewart, Tommy Maddox and of course, Big Ben. Like I said, he won't hurt us. We won't lose games because of him.
y so srs? It's cool man, it's cool! Don't hit me!
Remind me never to speak ill of the Steelers in your presence. :D
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y so srs? It's cool man, it's cool! Don't hit me!
Remind me never to speak ill of the Steelers in your presence. :D
Serious? Me? Heck yeah!!!! J/k. It's actually not serious at all. Frankly (don't hit me Steeler fans), I'm not that big a Roethlisberger fan. I think he holds the ball way too long. Batch gets rid of the ball sooner and is less prone to take chances. That said, I'd really like to see Dixon get a shot. He's more mobile than the other two and could be developed into a pretty good double threat.
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Terry Bradshaw blasts Roethlisberger (http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/04/morning-tweet-bradshaw-rips-roethlisberger.html.php)
"Our relationship is not any good. When I told him to park the motorcycle, he got pissed. Then he had the accident, and since then he doesn't like me and I'm learning not to like him. ... There's nothing greater, if you're single, than to walk into a bar with beautiful women and have 'em just fill your ego up. And you ask yourself, would they pay any attention to you if you weren't who you are? And of course not, because I'm not that attractive and neither is Ben. So it's nice that you can do that, but he's gotta be careful."
:D :D :D
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Terry Bradshaw blasts Roethlisberger ([url]http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/04/morning-tweet-bradshaw-rips-roethlisberger.html.php[/url])
"Our relationship is not any good. When I told him to park the motorcycle, he got pissed. Then he had the accident, and since then he doesn't like me and I'm learning not to like him. ... There's nothing greater, if you're single, than to walk into a bar with beautiful women and have 'em just fill your ego up. And you ask yourself, would they pay any attention to you if you weren't who you are? And of course not, because I'm not that attractive and neither is Ben. So it's nice that you can do that, but he's gotta be careful."
:D :D :D
Gotta love Bradshaw!
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Terry Bradshaw blasts Roethlisberger ([url]http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/04/morning-tweet-bradshaw-rips-roethlisberger.html.php[/url])
"Our relationship is not any good. When I told him to park the motorcycle, he got pissed. Then he had the accident, and since then he doesn't like me and I'm learning not to like him. ... There's nothing greater, if you're single, than to walk into a bar with beautiful women and have 'em just fill your ego up. And you ask yourself, would they pay any attention to you if you weren't who you are? And of course not, because I'm not that attractive and neither is Ben. So it's nice that you can do that, but he's gotta be careful."
:D :D :D
Gotta love Bradshaw!
Tell that truth, TB! :D
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Watch out Tiger. (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36464749/ns/sports-golf/)
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Watch out Tiger. ([url]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36464749/ns/sports-golf/[/url])
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p316/sjonathan02/vybgbrjpg.gif?t=1271177895)
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Gotta love Bradshaw!
Yep. :) Good to see someone telling the truth.
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Boston attorney says he investigated another Roethlisberger incident (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/13/boston-attorney-says-he-investigated-another-roethlisberger-incident/)
The attorney who was asked to look into a 3rd allegation last year:
"...there's only so far that he said/she said will get you. There's only so far that paying hush money will get you, if hush money is paid. And there's only so far that, 'Gee, we're celebrities, we have a target on our back,' will get you. When you see this much smoke, month after month and continuously . . . . It's the scene that he's gotten himself caught up with, and the belief that he can walk, and so far, so good. But it's hurting him. He's hurt. He has been damaged. And the next one, the wrath of God's going to come down on him, if there is a next one."
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Boston attorney says he investigated another Roethlisberger incident ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/13/boston-attorney-says-he-investigated-another-roethlisberger-incident/[/url])
The attorney who was asked to look into a 3rd allegation last year:
"...there's only so far that he said/she said will get you. There's only so far that paying hush money will get you, if hush money is paid. And there's only so far that, 'Gee, we're celebrities, we have a target on our back,' will get you. When you see this much smoke, month after month and continuously . . . . It's the scene that he's gotten himself caught up with, and the belief that he can walk, and so far, so good. But it's hurting him. He's hurt. He has been damaged. And the next one, the wrath of God's going to come down on him, if there is a next one."
I'm pretty sure I said that a few pages back. :D
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I'm pretty sure I said that a few pages back. :D
Well, the guy I quoted is a lawyer, which makes his comments more credible. Because lawyers are always right. And they're super honest. :D
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Well, the guy I quoted is a lawyer, which makes his comments more credible. Because lawyers are always right. And they're super honest. :D
:D :D :D :D :D :D
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Yes, really. He has played well for the Steelers every time he was given an opportunity. I don't see him starting a full season, but if he has to start the first 4 games of the season, he won't hurt us.
He's not a stand out, but he's pretty solid (that kid, Dixon aint so bad either). I hope Big Bone
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He's not a stand out, but he's pretty solid (that kid, Dixon aint so bad either). I hope Big Bone
Ooops...hit the reply button too soon. I meant to say that I hope that Big Bonehead gets his act together before his luck runs out.
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Ooops...hit the reply button too soon. I meant to say that I hope that Big Bonehead gets his act together before his luck runs out.
You and I both. Frankly, I hope he gets the same treatment from the commissioner that all of the black athelets have gotten. He needs a big wake-up call, as if this situation alone wasn't big enough.
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Marshall exchanging hooves for 'fins. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=5085644)
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Marshall exchanging wings for 'fins. ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=5085644[/url])
Wings?
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Wings?
Yeah.....shoulda probably said "hooves"
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Wings?
My fault, I was thinking (for some odd reason) Braylon Edwards. :-[ :-\
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My fault, I was thinking (for some odd reason) Braylon Edwards. :-[ :-\
We all make mistakes. Take heart! At least you spelled everything correctly. ;D
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We all make mistakes. Take heart! At least you spelled everything correctly. ;D
:D :D :D :D :D :D
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When the owner of the team is asked whether he supports you and he says "I'm not making any comment on that" (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/14/dan-rooney-says-no-comment-on-whether-steelers-support-roethlisberger/), you might be in trouble.
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More details of the incident. (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36576577/ns/sports-nfl/)
This thing isn't going away.
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Georgia Bureau of Investigation documents reveal a third incident (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/16/gbi-documents-contain-evidence-of-another-roethlisberger-allegation/)
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Georgia Bureau of Investigation documents reveal a third incident ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/16/gbi-documents-contain-evidence-of-another-roethlisberger-allegation/[/url])
What a boob.
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What a boob.
:D
The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0415101roethlisberger1.html) more details from the police report of the most recent incident.
"Ben asked us to go to his 'VIP' area. . . . We all went with him. He said there were shots for us, numerous shots were on the bar, and he told us to take them. His bodyguard came and took my arm and said come with me, he escorted me into a side door/hallway, and sat me on a stool. He left and Ben came back with his penis out of his pants. I told him it wasn't OK, no, we don't need to do this and I proceeded to get up and try to leave. I went to the first door I saw, which happened to be a bathroom. He followed me into the bathroom and shut the door behind him. I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me. He said it was OK. He then left without saying anything. I went out of the hallway/door to the side where I saw my friends. We left [the club] and went to the first police car we saw."
Strikingly similar.
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The hammerTHE hammer, NOT MC Hammercomes down this Tuesday (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36634627/ns/sports-player_news/)
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As a life-long Steelers fan, I am disgusted by Roethlisberger's actions. Eventhough he may have avoided prosecution, it's obious that this guy has a problem.
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The hammerTHE hammer, NOT MC Hammercomes down this Tuesday ([url]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36634627/ns/sports-player_news/[/url])
I can't wait until this is over. The one positive that comes out of all of this is that Dixon will get more reps in practice and more exposure with the first team in pre-season, which helps him develop faster. If he has a great pre-season, and ends up being an effective starter for the first few games (assuming he wins the starting position), the end of Big Ben's ride in Pittsburgh may come a lot sooner than folks think.
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I can't wait until this is over. The one positive that comes out of all of this is that Dixon will get more reps in practice and more exposure with the first team in pre-season, which helps him develop faster. If he has a great pre-season, and ends up being an effective starter for the first few games (assuming he wins the starting position), the end of Big Ben's ride in Pittsburgh may come a lot sooner than folks think.
Eventhough he may have avoided prosecution, it's obious that this guy has a problem.
All too true, brothers.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5113415 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5113415)
Former Broncos TE shipped to Detroit; WLB Sims goes to Eagles; Broncos get 5th round pick.
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...uh, I just heard that D. McNabb wants Washington to sign Terrell Owens. Wow! :-\
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...uh, I just heard that D. McNabb wants Washington to sign Terrell Owens. Wow! :-\
Why wouldn't he? The two were great together (on the field) in Philly.
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...uh, I just heard that D. McNabb wants Washington to sign Terrell Owens. Wow! :-\
Maybe it's good to have a scapegoat just in case things don't go so well. I did like the combo in Philly though.
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Why wouldn't he? The two were great together (on the field) in Philly.
Yea, he definitely would want a good receiver in his first year on a new team. Later for the off-the-field nonsense. He doesn't want to go out there and throw to...um...whoever the Redskins WRs are.
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Yea, he definitely would want a good receiver in his first year on a new team. Later for the off-the-field nonsense. He doesn't want to go out there and throw to...um...whoever the Redskins WRs are.
Ok, just looked it up. They have Santana Moss, a few towel boys and a hot dog vendor.
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Ok, just looked it up. They have Santana Moss, a few towel boys and a hot dog vendor.
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.
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Steelers Reacquire Byron Leftwich! (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhWaIHC91_rl7LO5OU3oB6dDubYF?slug=ap-bucs-steelerstrade)
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The hammerTHE hammer, NOT MC Hammercomes down this Tuesday ([url]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36634627/ns/sports-player_news/[/url])
Hammer Time, baby! (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Report-Roethlisberger-to-be-suspended-four-to-s?urn=nfl,235656) (but we'll spare you the parachute pants.)
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Hammer Time, baby! ([url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Report-Roethlisberger-to-be-suspended-four-to-s?urn=nfl,235656[/url]) (but we'll spare you the parachute pants.)
All Vick supporters are gonna be unhappy.
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Hammer Time, baby! ([url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Report-Roethlisberger-to-be-suspended-four-to-s?urn=nfl,235656[/url]) (but we'll spare you the parachute pants.)
Fair number I think.
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All Vick supporters are gonna be unhappy.
Not sure why. If Ben had actual charges filed against him, he'd have gotten more... and if he was put in jail, even more still.
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Not sure why. If Ben had actual charges filed against him, he'd have gotten more... and if he was put in jail, even more still.
I get that; you get that; but folks, who want to make everything a black/white thing, will just see it as he's a white QB blah, blah, blah. ::)
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Goooooo Dennis Dixon....or Charlie Batch.....or Byron Leftwich.....This oughta be interesting.
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Goooooo Dennis Dixon....or Charlie Batch.....or Byron Leftwich.....This oughta be interesting.
According to Tim Hasselbeck ::), Dennis Dixon would be the best choice during Big Ben's suspension.
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According to Tim Hasselbeck ::), Dennis Dixon would be the best choice during Big Ben's suspension.
I think it would be a good opportunity for Dixon to show what he can do. He's only started one game against the Ravens and looked quite impressive; I would think he could only get better from here on. With Batch injured, Leftwich would likely back up Dixon (assuming he wins the job).
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I say trade Big Ben for a top 10 pick. Pick a possession WR in the draft to eventually replace Ward when he retires or is forced out. Give Dixon all of the support he needs to be successful (including placing more emphasis on the run) and move on.
While Big Ben won games and was able to make a lot of big plays, I still say he's not as good as a lot of the analysts say he is. He holds the ball wayyyyy too long and is indecisive when blitzed (translation: he doesn't read the blitz well at the line and has to rely on the line to give him enough blocking to help him find the hot receiver). His sack total is among the highest in the NFL on a consistent basis. It's not always the fault of the line. You'll see him double, triple, even quadruple pump the ball before he decides upon a receiver. Sometimes, he was able to make up for his indecisiveness with his strength. He can brush off blitzers that other qb's would fall prey to. Nonetheless, Dixon counters with speed, and can add a double threat to the qb position in Pittsburgh.
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I say trade Big Ben for a top 10 pick. Pick a possession WR in the draft to eventually replace Ward when he retires or is forced out. Give Dixon all of the support he needs to be successful (including placing more emphasis on the run) and move on.
While Big Ben won games and was able to make a lot of big plays, I still say he's not as good as a lot of the analysts say he is. He holds the ball wayyyyy too long and is indecisive when blitzed (translation: he doesn't read the blitz well at the line and has to rely on the line to give him enough blocking to help him find the hot receiver). His sack total is among the highest in the NFL on a consistent basis. It's not always the fault of the line. You'll see him double, triple, even quadruple pump the ball before he decides upon a receiver. Sometimes, he was able to make up for his indecisiveness with his strength. He can brush off blitzers that other qb's would fall prey to. Nonetheless, Dixon counters with speed, and can add a double threat to the qb position in Pittsburgh.
That's his strong suit; he's got the size and strength. Not pretty, but he'll get the job done....usually. But I think it's premature to trade him away though.
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I say trade Big Ben for a top 10 pick. Pick a possession WR in the draft to eventually replace Ward when he retires or is forced out. Give Dixon all of the support he needs to be successful (including placing more emphasis on the run) and move on.
While Big Ben won games and was able to make a lot of big plays, I still say he's not as good as a lot of the analysts say he is. He holds the ball wayyyyy too long and is indecisive when blitzed (translation: he doesn't read the blitz well at the line and has to rely on the line to give him enough blocking to help him find the hot receiver). His sack total is among the highest in the NFL on a consistent basis. It's not always the fault of the line. You'll see him double, triple, even quadruple pump the ball before he decides upon a receiver. Sometimes, he was able to make up for his indecisiveness with his strength. He can brush off blitzers that other qb's would fall prey to. Nonetheless, Dixon counters with speed, and can add a double threat to the qb position in Pittsburgh.
You can NOT knock a guy who has earned TWO Super Bowl rings. If not for his stick throw (and the great catch by Holmes), the Steelers only have one ring.
Give me a guy who takes a sack over a guy who throws INTs (Brett Favre, I'm lookin' at you) EVERY time.
According to Wiki:
Roethlisberger has been one of the most efficient passers in NFL history. He currently ranks 9th all-time in NFL passer rating (91.7), 5th in yards per attempt (8.01), and 8th in completion percentage (63.29%) among quarterbacks with a minimum of 1500 career attempts. He has the 5th highest winning percentage (.698) as a starter in the regular season among quarterbacks with a minimum of 80 starts.
I know you've spent some time playin' the position; I'm jus' sayin', bruh. :-\
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You can NOT knock a guy who has earned TWO Super Bowl rings.
...in his first six seasons.
There's definitely no doubt about his ability.
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...in his first six seasons.
There's definitely no doubt about his ability.
Then, there's that.
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Give me a guy who takes a sack over a guy who throws INTs (Brett Favre, I'm lookin' at you) EVERY time.
Ummmm...you do realize that Ben's and Bretts TD to INT ratio is the same right? :)
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Ummmm...you do realize that Ben's and Bretts TD to INT ratio is the same right? :)
Did you do the math or is that stat out there somewhere?
Anyway, no I didn't know that...till I did the math.
Still doesn't take away from Big Ben's ability. If anything, it says (as long as he can remain in the NFL) that he's on his way to a HOF career. *kanyeshrug*
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Did you do the math or is that stat out there somewhere?
Anyway, no I didn't know that...till I did the math.
Still doesn't take away from Big Ben's ability. If anything, it says (as long as he can remain in the NFL) that he's on his way to a HOF career. *kanyeshrug*
...yeah if he can keep his pants on his waist and stay away from the college girls at college spots. :-\ ::)
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...yeah if he can keep his pants on his waist and stay away from the college girls at college spots. :-\ ::)
Well, there is that. :-\
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You can NOT knock a guy who has earned TWO Super Bowl rings. If not for his stick throw (and the great catch by Holmes), the Steelers only have one ring.
Give me a guy who takes a sack over a guy who throws INTs (Brett Favre, I'm lookin' at you) EVERY time.
According to Wiki:
Roethlisberger has been one of the most efficient passers in NFL history. He currently ranks 9th all-time in NFL passer rating (91.7), 5th in yards per attempt (8.01), and 8th in completion percentage (63.29%) among quarterbacks with a minimum of 1500 career attempts. He has the 5th highest winning percentage (.698) as a starter in the regular season among quarterbacks with a minimum of 80 starts.
I know you've spent some time playin' the position; I'm jus' sayin', bruh. :-\
I wish there was a way to factor sacks into the whole passing efficiency equation. There are plenty of qb's who throw the ball away rather than take the sack. As a result, their completion percentage and passer rating go down. Taking the sack keeps both stats intact. That was the knock on Brad Johnson, I believe. My point is, if there was a way to factor sacks into the equation, Ben wouldn't look quite as good. That said, I I heed to your points regarding his current stats. Great stuff for sure. I can't argue against those numbers. I've got some numbers of my own: 9-7. 4 fourth quarter defeats last season. (Something that had never happened to the Steelers before). 3rd place in the AFC North. Missed playoffs. In the NFL, you're only as good as what you did recently. According to my stats, he ain't did jack (int.). Last season, he played 15 games and got sacked 50 times. :o
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I wish there was a way to factor sacks into the whole passing efficiency equation. There are plenty of qb's who throw the ball away rather than take the sack. As a result, their completion percentage and passer rating go down. Taking the sack keeps both stats intact. That was the knock on Brad Johnson, I believe. My point is, if there was a way to factor sacks into the equation, Ben wouldn't look quite as good. That said, I I heed to your points regarding his current stats. Great stuff for sure. I can't argue against those numbers. I've got some numbers of my own: 9-7. 4 fourth quarter defeats last season. (Something that had never happened to the Steelers before). 3rd place in the AFC North. Missed playoffs. In the NFL, you're only as good as what you did recently. According to my stats, he ain't did jack (int.). Last season, he played 15 games and got sacked 50 times. :o
Srsly? One season. He had a bad season. C'mon son.
You weren't talkin' any of this when the Steelers won the Super Bowl. ON the field, Big Ben hasn't fallen off. And, he's 28, still room to improve.
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Well, there is that. :-\
...if the man comes out and says he's going to "rehab," I'm going to start wondering what's going on in there. :-\ ::)
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...if the man comes out and says he's going to "rehab," I'm going to start wondering what's going on in there. :-\ ::)
:D :D :D
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Srsly? One season. He had a bad season. C'mon son.
You weren't talkin' any of this when the Steelers won the Super Bowl. ON the field, Big Ben hasn't fallen off. And, he's 28, still room to improve.
I'm through. I'm just glad Dixon gets a real shot this season. I think Leftwich holds the ball too long as well. But, he's not a bad qb to have on the roster.
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I'm through. I'm just glad Dixon gets a real shot this season. I think Leftwich holds the ball too long as well. But, he's not a bad qb to have on the roster.
I'm quite interested in seeing what he can do.
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I'm quite interested in seeing what he can do.
That makes two of us. Actually, I believe I know what he's capable of. I just wonder if he'll actually do it.
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That makes two of us. Actually, I believe I know what he's capable of. I just wonder if he'll actually do it.
Hmm...interesting. The upcoming season is shaping up to be quite a doozy. :D
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Hmm...interesting. The upcoming season is shaping up to be quite a doozy. :D
Man, tell me about it! With all of the offseason moves and boneheaded activities...and the draft....and so on, this season will have my attention like never before.
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The Draft is tonight baby!
This is when I put on my Jets Jersey, pop some popcorn, and pray everyone but my Jets forgets that Dez Bryant is in this draft. :D
Yea, that's not happening, but I still love the draft.
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The Draft is tonight baby!
This is when I put on my Jets Jersey, pop some popcorn, and pray everyone but my Jets forgets that Dez Bryant is in this draft. :D
Yea, that's not happening, but I still love the draft.
*snicker, chortle* :D
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Tim Tebow to Denver! I'm happy they gave him a shot. Anyone think he has a legitimate chance to win the starting position this season?
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Tim Tebow to Denver! I'm happy they gave him a shot. Anyone think he has a legitimate chance to win the starting position this season?
Nope, not a one. He's a work in progress at BEST. I think McDaniels likes projects (Matt Cassel, I'm lookin' at you) and Tebow is one HUGE project.
It's very difficult not to like Tebow, the individual, though. Tough kid with a good head on his shoulders. I wish him well...seriously.
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This is when I put on my Jets Jersey, pop some popcorn, and pray everyone but my Jets forgets that Dez Bryant is in this draft. :D
*snicker, chortle* :D
[jealous]Congrats[/jealous]
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Tim Tebow to Denver! I'm happy they gave him a shot. Anyone think he has a legitimate chance to win the starting position this season?
More than a legit chance. They have nothing at quarterback so special. He'll probably be starting in two years or less. McDaniels may sink or swim with this pick unless he has a good backup plan.
I'm happy for Detroit (Pittsburgh Pity ;D ;D). They made some good picks so far. I'm tired of the Detroit and Raider bashing too.
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More than a legit chance. They have nothing at quarterback so special. He'll probably be starting in two years or less. McDaniels may sink or swim with this pick unless he has a good backup plan.
I'm happy for Detroit (Pittsburgh Pity ;D ;D). They made some good picks so far. I'm tired of the Detroit and Raider bashing too.
Detroit made a bold move with the trade. I like it.
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More than a legit chance. They have nothing at quarterback so special. He'll probably be starting in two years or less. McDaniels may sink or swim with this pick unless he has a good backup plan.
I'm happy for Detroit (Pittsburgh Pity ;D ;D). They made some good picks so far. I'm tired of the Detroit and Raider bashing too.
But, they suck. *kanyeshrug*
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I'm tired of the Detroit and Raider bashing too.
But, they suck. *kanyeshrug*
Yeah they do. Aint no bashing going on, it's just the truth!
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Yeah they do. Aint no bashing going on, it's just the truth!
All this may indeed be true. Let's just say it's bashing them with the truth. ;D ;D
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All this may indeed be true. Let's just say it's bashing them with the truth. ;D ;D
Sorta like tellin' an ugly girl (guy) the she (he) is ugly. :D :D
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So, the Panthers get Clausen and the Browns get McCoy. I think the Panthers made out like bandits even though I'm not sure Clausen has decent enough arm strength to fully take advantage of Steve Smith's play-making abilities downfield.
McCoy doesn't have any WRs in Cleveland. Luckily, he won't start right away...at least, I don't think he will. That Massaquoi kid needs work but he could develop into a decent WR. Heck, if McCoy decreases the number of turnovers at the QB position and is, at least, 55% accurate with his throws, it'll make teams respect the passing game which will allow the running game to be more effective.
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BREAKING NEWS!!!! The Raiders take the faster receiver in the draft! So out of character for Al Davis ::)
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Campbell...from Redskin to Raider (http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?id=5132782)
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Campbell...from Redskin to Raider ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?id=5132782[/url])
I'm happy for him. Though the Raiders now have 5 qb's, I believe he'll emerge as the starter. Looking at some of the Raider blogs, the Raider fans are ecstatic about the move, as well they should be. Shoot, if any Raider games are televised, I may even watch. I like Campbell.
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I'm happy for him. Though the Raiders now have 5 qb's, I believe he'll emerge as the starter. Looking at some of the Raider blogs, the Raider fans are ecstatic about the move, as well they should be. Shoot, if any Raider games are televised, I may even watch. I like Campbell.
I like Campbell, too. I think a few of those QBs are about to be jobless. I'm thinkin' Campbell and Gradkowski...everyone else can kick rocks. :-\
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I like Campbell, too. I think a few of those QBs are about to be jobless. I'm thinkin' Campbell and Gradkowski...everyone else can kick rocks. :-\
Pretty much...And the biggest (literally) rock-kicker of them all will be Russell. There's no way they can justify keeping him on the roster as a third (or worse) stringer with that huge a salary. Campbell is going to make something like $3.1 mil this year and over 4 mil next year. Russell is going to make something like $9 mil this year, if they keep him. Russell has only himself to blame. Lord knows that Al Davis gave him his chances.
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Pretty much...And the biggest (literally) rock-kicker of them all will be Russell. There's no way they can justify keeping him on the roster as a third (or worse) stringer with that huge a salary. Campbell is going to make something like $3.1 mil this year and over 4 mil next year. Russell is going to make something like $9 mil this year, if they keep him. Russell has only himself to blame. Lord knows that Al Davis gave him his chances.
Indeed.
In other news, Allen Faneca will probably be a Cowboy. They need OL help and he did go to the Pro Bowl last year.
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Indeed.
In other news, Allen Faneca will probably be a Cowboy. They need OL help and he did go to the Pro Bowl last year.
And in other news yet, the Steelers have re-acquired Bryant McFadden. That makes three guys that left in previous years and are now back in the fold- Larry Foote, Antwaan Randle El, and McFadden.
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And in other news yet, the Steelers have re-acquired Bryant McFadden. That makes three guys that left in previous years and are now back in the fold- Larry Foote, Antwaan Randle El, and McFadden.
'Everything old is new again' seems to be the mantra in Pittsburgh, eh? :D
Those New York football Jets are making some VERY bold moves. It could get VERY ugly in the AFC East. :-\ :o
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Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like all of these off season moves are building up their anticipation of the upcoming season? I mean, I'm looking forward to watching teams play that I never would have cared about before.
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I want to see what the Raiders are goin to do....it should be a great season!
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Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like all of these off season moves are building up their anticipation of the upcoming season? I mean, I'm looking forward to watching teams play that I never would have cared about before.
Nope, you're not the only one. I actually may even watch the Raiders.
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I want to see what the Raiders are goin to do....it should be a great season!
How about this (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/12778/clayton-raiders-preparing-to-cut-russell)?
According to ESPN it's a matter of "When" and not "If".
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How about this ([url]http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/12778/clayton-raiders-preparing-to-cut-russell[/url])?
According to ESPN it's a matter of "When" and not "If".
That's old news...as old as 4.22.10. :-\ :D
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Let's start a rumor. Brady Quinn to the Bills. They need a QB. He needs love. Now, what would Denver want in return?
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Let's start a rumor. Brady Quinn to the Bills. They need a QB. He needs love. Now, what would Denver want in return?
Fred Jackson or a defensive player. Possibly Marshawn Lynch, but I don't really think so. I even think Buffalo might release him.
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Fred Jackson or a defensive player. Possibly Marshawn Lynch, but I don't really think so. I even think Buffalo might release him.
I think they'd give up Lynch before they gave up Jackson. Maybe Lynch and a draft position swap would do it.
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I think they'd give up Lynch before they gave up Jackson. Maybe Lynch and a draft position swap would do it.
The Bills would want to give up Lynch. I'd like to think that McDaniels would be smart enough NOT to take him. :D
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Eagles make good (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13320226/eagles-give-new-qb-starter-kolb-extension-through-11-season)
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I've got mixed feelings about the Kolb thing. In a way, I want him to do well, but not too well. In a way, I want him to falter, both giving Vick a chance to return to prominence and proving the Eagles were hasty in getting rid of McNabb. But, I never like to wish any bad on anyone, so let's just see how it all unfolds.
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I've got mixed feelings about the Kolb thing. In a way, I want him to do well, but not too well. In a way, I want him to falter, both giving Vick a chance to return to prominence and proving the Eagles were hasty in getting rid of McNabb. But, I never like to wish any bad on anyone, so let's just see how it all unfolds.
I SO don't care about Vick. I'm probably the only one, though. I just don't. care.
But, I wasn't such a fan of his when he was 'great', either; so...*kanyeshrug*
And, it's the Eagles...may the entire organization falter. :D
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I SO don't care about Vick. I'm probably the only one, though. I just don't. care.
But, I wasn't such a fan of his when he was 'great', either; so...*kanyeshrug*
And, it's the Eagles...may the entire organization falter. :D
Spoken like a true Cowboys fan! :D
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...I guess Ol' Brett has to go have surgery on that ankle. :-\
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Spoken like a true Cowboys fan! :D
Exactly.
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Exactly.
SJon. receive ye the terrible towel in the name of Pittsburgh.
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SJon. receive ye the terrible towel in the name of Pittsburgh.
I rebuke the devil and watch him flee (just like he did in Super Bowl XXX) ;D
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I SO don't care about Vick. I'm probably the only one, though. I just don't. care.
But, I wasn't such a fan of his when he was 'great', either; so...*kanyeshrug*
And, it's the Eagles...may the entire organization falter. :D
When was he great? Let me think.................................
Never :-\
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When was he great? Let me think.................................
Never :-\
Note my use of quotes around the word.
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...I cannot believe what I just heard on S.C. Lawrence Taylor arrested for raping a 15 year old girl. Man! :o ?/? :-\
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...I cannot believe what I just heard on S.C. Lawrence Taylor arrested for raping a 15 year old girl. Man! :o ?/? :-\
Wow. Sad.
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Wow. Sad.
Sad indeed :o.
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...3rd. degree rape. Man, this is terrible!!!
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"....there was a pimp involved"! (http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/nflnewsfeed/2010/05/hall-of-famer-taylor-accused-of-rape.html?nav=rss_email/components)
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Taylor was ALWAYS gettin' into somethin' off the field. :-\
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I know...And for some reason, I keep hoping he gains some common sense.
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I know...And for some reason, I keep hoping he gains some common sense.
Awww, look at you. :D :D :D
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Raiders just released JaMarcus Russell.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvcK3y7sqPsBuzyTYJQz7j9DubYF?slug=ap-raiders-russell (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvcK3y7sqPsBuzyTYJQz7j9DubYF?slug=ap-raiders-russell)
I think if he works on a better team under a better owner he could really shine in the league. Maybe my opinion is dead crazy as well....lol!
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Raiders just released JaMarcus Russell.
[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvcK3y7sqPsBuzyTYJQz7j9DubYF?slug=ap-raiders-russell[/url] ([url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvcK3y7sqPsBuzyTYJQz7j9DubYF?slug=ap-raiders-russell[/url])
I think if he works on a better team under a better owner he could really shine in the league. Maybe my opinion is dead crazy as well....lol!
I don't know about shining, but I think if he were in a system that didn't require him to make a lot of post-snap reads, like a west-coast type of offense, he may have more success than he's experienced. Then again, I don't know.
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I don't know about shining, but I think if he were in a system that didn't require him to make a lot of post-snap reads, like a west-coast type of offense, he may have more success than he's experienced. Then again, I don't know.
I see.
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Russell was overrated. Period.
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Russell was overrated. Period.
...so Russell and Tebow have a spot on the NFL All Overrated Pro Team, huh? lol
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...so Russell and Tebow have a spot on the NFL All Overrated Pro Team, huh? lol
Jury's still out concerning Tebow (although, I do believe he will earn a spot on said team :-\). *kanyeshrug*
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Jury's still out concerning Tebow (although, I do believe he will earn a spot on said team :-\). *kanyeshrug*
Naw, the kid works too hard. What he doesn't have skill-wise, he'll develop. He has that kind of work-ethic. We saw that pre-draft. Dude totally re-structured his throwing motion, shaving milliseconds off of his delivery time. Doesn't sound like much, but that makes the difference between getting the ball off and having someone hit your arm in mid-delivery. The kid is a winner. I'm willing to bet he won't be a bust. Of course, I guess it depends upon what you consider a bust, too. If he stays in the league more than five years and even earns a #2 spot on a roster, I consider that a success (for him).
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Naw, the kid works too hard. What he doesn't have skill-wise, he'll develop. He has that kind of work-ethic. We saw that pre-draft. Dude totally re-structured his throwing motion, shaving milliseconds off of his delivery time. Doesn't sound like much, but that makes the difference between getting the ball off and having someone hit your arm in mid-delivery. The kid is a winner. I'm willing to bet he won't be a bust. Of course, I guess it depends upon what you consider a bust, too. If he stays in the league more than five years and even earns a #2 spot on a roster, I consider that a success (for him).
The QB position is the only position in the NFL where a first round pick winding up as a career back-up is considered a bust.
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The QB position is the only position in the NFL where a first round pick winding up as a career back-up is considered a bust.
That's why the parentheses, bro. lol
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That's why the parentheses, bro. lol
Dude, if I'm Tebow, being somebody's back-up after runnin' the show in Fla. would NOT be my idea of success.
And, I've got Jesus in me, too. :-\ :D
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Dude, if I'm Tebow, being somebody's back-up after runnin' the show in Fla. would NOT be my idea of success.
And, I've got Jesus in me, too. :-\ :D
To me, being able to maintain an NFL career (even as a back-up) when the naysayers said he wouldn't make it as a QB, would be a huge success. I understand where you're coming from, and that is the conventional line of reasoning. But, I'm looking at it from a practical standpoint. Bump all the hype about others' expectations. Dude is very humble, and I guarantee that he'd rather play period, even as a back-up, than to not even be on a team in 5 years.
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To me, being able to maintain an NFL career (even as a back-up) when the naysayers said he wouldn't make it as a QB, would be a huge success. I understand where you're coming from, and that is the conventional line of reasoning. But, I'm looking at it from a practical standpoint. Bump all the hype about others' expectations. Dude is very humble, and I guarantee that he'd rather play period, even as a back-up, than to not even be on a team in 5 years.
If you're a back-up, are you playing? :D
I mean, I understand what you're saying. At the same time, unless he's a starter, we naysayers will have been proven correct, imho. ;D
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Ok, let me put it like this: If you got to spend 10 years (as a back-up), making millions of dollars doing what you love more than anything other than the Lord, do you give a flying fart what the naysayers (like you ;D) say about you?
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The QB position is the only position in the NFL where a first round pick winding up as a career back-up is considered a bust.
We have to remember that Denver traded up to get him. Let's not put their stupidity on Tebow for drafting him in the 1st round.
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Ok, let me put it like this: If you got to spend 10 years (as a back-up), making millions of dollars doing what you love more than anything other than the Lord, do you give a flying fart what the naysayers (like you ;D) say about you?
In a word, yes. If it's what I love doing more than the Lord then I want to be thought of as being good at it.
Exactly like my present job. ;) 8)
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In a word, yes. If it's what I love doing more than the Lord then I want to be thought of as being good at it.
Exactly like my present job. ;) 8)
Being backup doesn't mean you're not good. I consider Frank Reich good, very good even. There was just this cat named Jim Kelly in his way.
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We have to remember that Denver traded up to get him. Let's not put their stupidity on Tebow for drafting him in the 1st round.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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And if LT is guilty, he needs to go away for a long time. That's nasty. >:(
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Being backup doesn't mean you're not good. I consider Frank Reich good, very good even. There was just this cat named Jim Kelly in his way.
But, Frank Reich wasn't good enough to get out of Jim's shadow...on another team.
That's my point.
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But, Frank Reich wasn't good enough to get out of Jim's shadow...on another team.
That's my point.
...at the end of a 14 or so year career. Not sure if that's a fair measurement.
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Jury's still out concerning Tebow.
That's it.
If a slow kid picked 199th overall can become an all-time great (ALREADY), win superbowls, and marry Gisele Bundchen, why can't Tebow at least be a successful QB? Or at least give Gisele a call to see what's up?
None of us a pro scouts.
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Culpepper finally lands on a team... (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/18/culpepper-headed-to-the-ufl/#comments)
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Culpepper finally lands on a team... ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/18/culpepper-headed-to-the-ufl/#comments[/url])
Uh, this is NFL news, not UFL. WhAt Is ThAt? ?/?
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Uh, this is NFL news, not UFL. WhAt Is ThAt? ?/?
This is NFL news and you know it. :P
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Uh, this is NFL news, not UFL. WhAt Is ThAt? ?/?
This is NFL news and you know it. :P
Isn't it both? ;)
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Isn't it both? ;)
This guy has it right.
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Raiders file grievance against JaMarcus Russell (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/27/raiders-file-grievance-against-jamarcus-russell/?related=1)
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'Hawks cut White (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/lendale-white-seattle-seahawks-released-cut-052810)
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'Hawks cut White ([url]http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/lendale-white-seattle-seahawks-released-cut-052810[/url])
I don't feel one bit sorry for him. He talked all of this noise about not wanting to be a backup to Chris Johnson when he would have still been making 7 figures. He was all about himself, and wanting his own shine instead of humbling himslef and just being grateful for making what was basically free money. Even though he had a stellar season in '08 when CJ was a rookie and he seemed to love the attention, he seemed quite jealous of all of the attention the CJ got last season and now it has cost him via running his mouth. I actually lost quite a bit of respect for him this past season. It would be quite amusing if he came back to TN with his tail in between his legs.
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From bench to bank (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/15/report-redskins-sign-mcnabb-to-five-year-extension/)
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From bench to bank ([url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/15/report-redskins-sign-mcnabb-to-five-year-extension/[/url])
Good for him....Maybe.
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That's a lot of cheese to pay an old guy. :) I like McNabb but I don't know about paying anyone on the downside of there career that much cheese.
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That's a lot of cheese to pay an old guy. :) I like McNabb but I don't know about paying anyone on the downside of there career that much cheese.
Agreed. And, one that isn't, necessarily, leading your team to a playoff appearance. :-\
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Mah boy gets his own thread for his performance last night.
Passing:
20 for 28 (71%)
333 yards
4 TDs, 0 INT
Rushing:
8 attempts for 80 yards
2 TDs.
WHOA!
Vick became the first player in NFL history with at least 300 yards passing, 50 yards rushing, four passing touchdowns and two rushing touchdowns in a game.
He hasn't thrown an interception or lost a fumble this season.
He has the highest QB Rating in the league.
He's been the best player in the NFL this year. Vick has been what I thought he could be when he was drafted. His speed and athleticism, paired with his great arm, give defenses too much to cover on any given play. He isn't a RB with an arm anymore. He's dissecting defenses with his arm.
Playing under Andy Reid has helped.
If he keeps this up, do you think he has a shot at the MVP? Do you think the NFL would allow that? I don't see anyone else who deserves it more through 10 weeks.
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...Most Valuable Pitbull!
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...Most Valuable Pitbull!
(http://images.whatport80.com/images/thumb/3/33/Futurama_Fry_Looking_Squint.jpg/500px-Futurama_Fry_Looking_Squint.jpg)
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If he is consistent throughout the rest of the season, the NFL "HAS" to give it to him. Its no one that is even close to the way he is performing weekend and week out.
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Yeah, The man was off the hook last night... I think the score was 52 at half time.... hahaha
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If he keeps this up, do you think he has a shot at the MVP? Do you think the NFL would allow that? I don't see anyone else who deserves it more through 10 weeks.
A shot? He'll shatter the MVP voting if he does anything near what he's done so far this year AND takes his team deep into the playoffs.
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A shot? He'll shatter the MVP voting if he does anything near what he's done so far this year AND takes his team deep into the playoffs.
Uh, if I may, I'd like to submit one name into the voting...Phillip Rivers.
May, possibly, shatter Marino's single-season passing record. If he, too, can take his team deep into the playoffs, I believe an argument can be made for him. And, Vick needs to remain healthy for MVP consideration.
Now, with that said, I believe that Vick would get the nod (and, as we all know, I'm not that high on the man...but the athlete can NOT be denied this season).
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He isn't a RB with an arm anymore. He's dissecting defenses with his arm.
Playing under Andy Reid has helped.
Concerning the former, I watched a decent amount of the game last night and saw something I never thought I'd see from Vick...he decided to run after reading through his progressions (about 4 of them) and, even prior to takin' off, he took one last look downfield. It got to the point where during one play, I actually yelled 'RUN!' at the screen. :-\
Never would've done that when he was with Atlanta. :-\
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If he is consistent throughout the rest of the season, the NFL "HAS" to give it to him. Its no one that is even close to the way he is performing weekend and week out.
I want Vick to win it...however, to say it's a one man race is ridiculous. For instance, the numbers that Philip Rivers is putting up are crazy:
Completing 65.4% 2944yds 19tds 8int 102.9 qb rating
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I want Vick to win it...however, to say it's a one man race is ridiculous. For instance, the numbers that Philip Rivers is putting up are crazy:
Completing 65.4% 2944yds 19tds 8int 102.9 qb rating
Uh, if I may, I'd like to submit one name into the voting...Phillip Rivers.
May, possibly, shatter Marino's single-season passing record. If he, too, can take his team deep into the playoffs, I believe an argument can be made for him. And, Vick needs to remain healthy for MVP consideration.
Now, with that said, I believe that Vick would get the nod (and, as we all know, I'm not that high on the man...but the athlete can NOT be denied this season).
Great minds, I say... :D
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So the biggest issues I see right now is:
-Uncertainity of 2011 Football Season. Has anyone been following the labor mess?
-Tiki Barber is coming out of retirement. Most assumptions have it being money as the main reason he's coming back.
Any thoughts?
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I'm not optimistic regarding the current talks. The fact that they've extended the deadline twice is encouraging; however, the owners' refusal to be transparent concerning the books is a major sticking point. How can they want money back from the players if they are unwilling to show any cause for such action?
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I'm not optimistic regarding the current talks. The fact that they've extended the deadline twice is encouraging; however, the owners' refusal to be transparent concerning the books is a major sticking point. How can they want money back from the players if they are unwilling to show any cause for such action?
Right! I just think it's crazy that millionaires and billionaires are arguing over money....SMH! From what I've heard, they are fine with the rookie wage scale thing and they are fine with the 18 game schedule (I might be wrong on that). The issue is that sharing of the revenue. That's the sticking point.
I think a deal has to be done because the NFL is the most popular sport in America right now. Why blow it over money?
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the labor talks will be over by easter.
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Right! I just think it's crazy that millionaires and billionaires are arguing over money....SMH! From what I've heard, they are fine with the rookie wage scale thing and they are fine with the 18 game schedule (I might be wrong on that). The issue is that sharing of the revenue. That's the sticking point.
I think a deal has to be done because the NFL is the most popular sport in America right now. Why blow it over money?
Because money makes the NFL go 'round. If owners and players are forced to go long enough without it, an agreement will be made, for sure.
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I am following it very closely but at the end of the day may hopes aren't up for any immediate resolution. I'm looking for this thing to drag on a little while longer.
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Because money makes the NFL go 'round. If owners and players are forced to go long enough without it, an agreement will be made, for sure.
Exactly!
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Looks like the owners are starting to budge a little... http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nfllabor
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Looks like the owners are starting to budge a little... [url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nfllabor[/url]
They'll have to. At the end of the day, these NFL players can play in some other football leagues and blow them up in terms of notoriety and popularity.
What do the owners do then?
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They'll have to. At the end of the day, these NFL players can play in some other football leagues and blow them up in terms of notoriety and popularity.
What do the owners do then?
These owner are some of the most stubborn owners on the planet...IMO. I don't think they will reach an agreement any time soon. Why would they want to change what they currently have going...is what I don't understand. It's my understanding that the owners want more money than their already making. I can understand the rookie wage scale..that is long over due but the money issue is what bugs me. :-\
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They'll have to. At the end of the day, these NFL players can play in some other football leagues and blow them up in terms of notoriety and popularity.
What do the owners do then?
Lament the fact that they let greed get the best of them. Of course, I'm speculating. Until we see the numbers, we won't really know if the owners are as bad off as they claim. For the most part, I don't think they are.
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Well if they end up doing SCAB ball like back in the day, maybe I'll have a chance to come out of retirement and be a 35 year old rookie!
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So here's what I'm hearing now on labor......it's not looking good.
The Player's Union has basically declared not being open to 18 game season. The Union also wants the owners to open up their audited books but owners are refusing. I'm also hearing something about $800 million.
Well then..... :-\
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I have to side with the Players Union on the notion of an 18-game season. How do you justify advocating player safety and preserving the careers of these players by adding two more regular season games to bust themselves up?
That makes about as much sense as people wanting neighborhood murders to be solved yet they still support this "no snitching" trash.
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I have to side with the Players Union on the notion of an 18-game season. How do you justify advocating player safety and preserving the careers of these players by adding two more regular season games to bust themselves up?
That makes about as much sense as people wanting neighborhood murders to be solved yet they still support this "no snitching" trash.
Right! I think the logic was reducing the 4 preseason games to 2 and making the other 2 the additional 2 regular season games. Some say that in order for Union to get what they want (as far as the revenue issue) they would have to accept 18 game season. But idk now.
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In light of whats happening in wisconsin it doesn't look good for the players union.
The man is attempting to earn back all his money he lost during the recession as quickly as possible.
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I doubt making 2 pre-season games into regular season games will make much of a difference to the owners. People don't really go to pre-season games like that. It appears the owners believe they will make more money on tickets and such with two more regular season games.
HOWEVER
With the current trend of resting star players for teams that qualify for the playoffs, those star players would be even more likely to sit out those last two regular season games. So, essentially, the last two weeks of the regular season will be full of players that saw most of their field action in pre-season anyway. What fans are gonna pay to see a Colts/Patriots game in week 18 with a bunch of replacement players? And what fans are going to pay to see a week 18 match-up betwunxt replacement players of the Bufflalo Bills and Jacksonville Jaguars that are already out of the playoff hunt?
Sounds to me like they'll essentially move two pre-season games to the end of the actual 16-game season.
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I doubt making 2 pre-season games into regular season games will make much of a difference to the owners. People don't really go to pre-season games like that. It appears the owners believe they will make more money on tickets and such with two more regular season games.
HOWEVER
With the current trend of resting star players for teams that qualify for the playoffs, those star players would be even more likely to sit out those last two regular season games. So, essentially, the last two weeks of the regular season will be full of players that saw most of their field action in pre-season anyway. What fans are gonna pay to see a Colts/Patriots game in week 18 with a bunch of replacement players? And what fans are going to pay to see a week 18 match-up betwunxt replacement players of the Bufflalo Bills and Jacksonville Jaguars that are already out of the playoff hunt?
Sounds to me like they'll essentially move two pre-season games to the end of the actual 16-game season.
I agree with the above poster.
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Well, it's official:
NFLPA (players' union) decides to decertify and take their issue to the court, which means they may file antitrust lawsuits. NFLPA wants owners to show audited books of last 10 years of finances. According to ESPN, the biggest issue is still that splitting of $9 billion. NFL wants players to get 44% of $9 billion while the players want 50% of $9 billion, which means both sides are about $540 billion apart.
What a sad day in America....SMH!
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_mccann/03/11/whatnext/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_mccann/03/11/whatnext/index.html)
Article explains what may happen next.
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Um... how you get $540 billion after starting with $9 billion? I need to see your tutoring credentials. LOL!
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Um... how you get $540 billion after starting with $9 billion? I need to see your tutoring credentials. LOL!
I meant million.....LOL!
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I knew this was coming all along because everyone wants to have their way.....both sides think they're right..and nobody wants to compromise. No matter what DeMaurice Smith and the Players Assoc. says....when the checks stop comin, them jokaz gone go to breakin ranks. Especially players like Antonio Cromartie. LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I knew this was coming all along because everyone wants to have their way.....both sides think they're right..and nobody wants to compromise. No matter what DeMaurice Smith and the Players Assoc. says....when the checks stop comin, them jokaz gone go to breakin ranks. Especially players like Antonio Cromartie. LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The players who saved money are on top of the world. They'll miss the money, but they get some time off work and can just chill/travel/live comfortably with their millions in the bank.
The players who spent all the money fast cars and fast women will be kicking themselves.
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I knew this was coming all along because everyone wants to have their way.....both sides think they're right..and nobody wants to compromise. No matter what DeMaurice Smith and the Players Assoc. says....when the checks stop comin, them jokaz gone go to breakin ranks. Especially players like Antonio Cromartie. LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LOL
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So has anyone heard about the rule changes for the new season (if there is one)?
The owners voted to move kickoff to 35 yard line, which could cause increase in touchbacks.
Also, they voted to allow all scores to be reviewed from booth (if necessary).
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ai1fDQRm2JIBb7F5JoGnKJVDubYF?slug=ap-ownersmeetings (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ai1fDQRm2JIBb7F5JoGnKJVDubYF?slug=ap-ownersmeetings)
Article explains rule changes better.
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Didn't read the article, but I can't figure out why they'd want more touchbacks. More touchbacks will mean less scoring. On the other hand, it may also mean fewer injuries.
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Didn't read the article, but I can't figure out why they'd want more touchbacks. More touchbacks will mean less scoring. On the other hand, it may also mean fewer injuries.
That's probably their logic, but the kickoff return is such an awesome part of the game.....*sigh*
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http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/03/29/cam-newton-scouting-report (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/03/29/cam-newton-scouting-report)
So here's a scouting report on Cam Newton. There's still a lack of agreement on where he'll go in the draft. Some have Carolina taking him #1 (I kind of don't think they should). The scouting report has him somewhere between 1-15. Some are criticizing this report as being racially driven.
What do you think?
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plaxico buress is out of the pen!!!
http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2011/06/06/what-next-for-plaxico-burress/ (http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2011/06/06/what-next-for-plaxico-burress/)
The doors of Oneida Correctional Facility in upstate New York swung open early Monday morning and Plaxico Burress, former wide receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers and New York Giants, walked out of prison. Burress pleaded guilty to one count of attempted criminal possession of a weapon in August 2009 after accidentally shooting himself in the leg in a nightclub the previous November. Just one season earlier, Burress was the toast of New York, catching the winning touchdown in the Giants’ 17-14 upset victory over the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLII.
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plaxico buress is out of the pen!!!
[url]http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2011/06/06/what-next-for-plaxico-burress/[/url] ([url]http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2011/06/06/what-next-for-plaxico-burress/[/url])
Great!! Now I wonder who's going to sign him. No the real question is, when will this whole lockout saga be over? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Great!! Now I wonder who's going to sign him. No the real question is, when will this whole lockout saga be over? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
i'm sure its going to start getting hot and heavy on the football scene now that basketball is over (:D lol assuming the heat win again tonight).
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i'm sure its going to start getting hot and heavy on the football scene now that basketball is over (:D lol assuming the heat win again tonight).
well the heat lost ... so it didn't get hot and heavy lol
Anyway
T.O. had surgery on his ACL... and in Dec. he turns 38 ...
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well the heat lost ... so it didn't get hot and heavy lol
Anyway
T.O. had surgery on his ACL... and in Dec. he turns 38 ...
It was nice knowing you, T.O.
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It was nice knowing you, T.O.
I was having a discussion with some friends, and this topic came up: Would T.O. be a 1st ballot HOF?
If you judge him solely on his number...w/o a doubt he would a 1st ballot HOF, IMO!!!
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I was having a discussion with some friends, and this topic came up: Would T.O. be a 1st ballot HOF?
If you judge him solely on his number...w/o a doubt he would a 1st ballot HOF, IMO!!!
yeah he would
Sadly I think the HOF is starting to become water downed ... there are just so many great players ... espeically when you start considering the decades that go by
Maybe they should limit the HOF to 10 people ... and in order to get in you have to be better than one of those ... well for football it could be 55 people ... :D
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yeah he would
Sadly I think the HOF is starting to become water downed ... there are just so many great players ... espeically when you start considering the decades that go by
Maybe they should limit the HOF to 10 people ... and in order to get in you have to be better than one of those ... well for football it could be 55 people ... :D
You and your outlandish ideas...lol :D :D :D