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Gospel Instruments => Bass Guitar => Topic started by: jpeeze on March 21, 2010, 12:37:23 PM
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I need me a jazz bass and was thinking about a fender, but i tune half step down and i think fenders are 34 scale. I was wondering if the b string flop alot tune half step down on fender jazz.
Thanks for help.
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I play a Fender Jazz 5 string and I tune a half step down as well. No issues. B string cuts through good for me. However, I have SCN (Somarium Cobalt Noiseless) pickups. Typically, most Fender Jazz basses either MIA or MIM, the B will be decent. Your best bet will be to go and try one out and see what u think.
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no issues with Bb on my 34" scale SX jazz, so im sure fenders would be good
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I been seeing some nice MIA fender jazz on talk bass. I play 535 mtd and need a good backup bass something cheap with good tone, and the first thing came to mind was fender.
Thanks again LGM fam
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I play a Fender Jazz 5 string and I tune a half step down as well. No issues. B string cuts through good for me. However, I have SCN (Somarium Cobalt Noiseless) pickups. Typically, most Fender Jazz basses either MIA or MIM, the B will be decent. Your best bet will be to go and try one out and see what u think.
What was it about the SCN pickups that impress u the most? I'm looking into a pair of Barts pickups for my
Fender Jazz 5. Trying to get some compare opinions first. Thanks !!
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Fender B strings are hit and miss! But it's mainly a matter of having the right strings, properly cut nut and making sure the strings are properly wound on the tuning posts!
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What was it about the SCN pickups that impress u the most? I'm looking into a pair of Barts pickups for my
Fender Jazz 5. Trying to get some compare opinions first. Thanks !!
To me the SCN pickups are real clean. They bring out the alder tone on Jazz basses. They are noiseless. No feedback. Barts are good pickups as well. The SCN's were made for the jazz bass. The only disadvantage to SCNs is the highs are semi-highs with clear tone. Some might say thats good. In other words if you like twangy highs, the SCNs are not for you.
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Fender B strings are hit and miss! But it's mainly a matter of having the right strings, properly cut nut and making sure the strings are properly wound on the tuning posts!
What kind of jazz bass you recomend with a good b string tune half step. I can't afford to hit are miss my b string got to be tight.
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What kind of jazz bass you recomend with a good b string tune half step. I can't afford to hit are miss my b string got to be tight.
Well, I'm a Lakland (JO5) player. Best B in the business in my opinion. Be advised the 5's are 35" scale.
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Well, I'm a Lakland (JO5) player. Best B in the business in my opinion. Be advised the 5's are 35" scale.
thats cool my 535 is 35 scale. What's the differrance between the lakland jazz and fender.
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Lakland is a better made and quality instrument. The 5's are 35" scale. Laklands are FULL 19mm spacing. Fender 5's are a hair short of 19mm. Different neck profiles. Lakland necks are flatter. Although Fender has stepped up it's game of late, there are still many hits or misses! Lakland is more consistent in quality and craftsmanship! Just my honest opinion. I've owned Fenders previously. Laklands are what Fender should be! I love the sound of a stock passive Fender though! Pure funk! I added Nordstrand dual coil pickups and an Audere pre to my Lakland and it smokes now!
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Lakland is a better made and quality instrument. The 5's are 35" scale. Laklands are FULL 19mm spacing. Fender 5's are a hair short of 19mm. Different neck profiles. Lakland necks are flatter. Although Fender has stepped up it's game of late, there are still many hits or misses! Lakland is more consistent in quality and craftsmanship! Just my honest opinion. I've owned Fenders previously. Laklands are what Fender should be! I love the sound of a stock passive Fender though! Pure funk! I added Nordstrand dual coil pickups and an Audere pre to my Lakland and it smokes now!
You have USA J05
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Lakland is a better made and quality instrument. The 5's are 35" scale. Laklands are FULL 19mm spacing. Fender 5's are a hair short of 19mm. Different neck profiles. Lakland necks are flatter. Although Fender has stepped up it's game of late, there are still many hits or misses! Lakland is more consistent in quality and craftsmanship! Just my honest opinion. I've owned Fenders previously. Laklands are what Fender should be! I love the sound of a stock passive Fender though! Pure funk! I added Nordstrand dual coil pickups and an Audere pre to my Lakland and it smokes now!
DW, can you elaborate on the tonal differences before and after your upgrades?
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DW, can you elaborate on the tonal differences before and after your upgrades?
Basically, I did not like the stock Lakland pickups. They had this midrangy bark that wasn't working for me and I couldn't dial it out. I also could not get any high end out of it. The Nordies opened up the sound for me (further removing that annoying single coil hum when I solo'd the bridge pickup). By adding the pre, I can add as much bass or treble to my liking and the Z mode switch gives me 3 different midrange settings depending on how much I need to cut through the mix. I normally keep it in the middle position.
jpeeze, my bass is a Skyline which is still better than American Fenders, in my honest opinion. Fender doesn't even come close to the USA Laklands!
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DW, u makin me kinda mad for passing up that used Lakland Skyline i came across used for a good price a while. lol.
But yeah, in my opinion (i did put some significant playing time on my cousins Lakland) they are better than the Fenders.
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DW, u makin me kinda mad for passing up that used Lakland Skyline i came across used for a good price a while. lol.
But yeah, in my opinion (i did put some significant playing time on my cousins Lakland) they are better than the Fenders.
If I see one available this summer in the same price range, I'm definitely grabbing it! Fender looks like it stepped up it's game with the new American Deluxe line though! We'll see!
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If I see one available this summer in the same price range, I'm definitely grabbing it! Fender looks like it stepped up it's game with the new American Deluxe line though! We'll see!
Well, here it is! (http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0194690705) I like the 70's features, but miss the original American Deluxe body shape. It looks a lot the Custom Classic Jazz. Too bad they didn't do an American Deluxe Precisicn V though. And even at that, the 4-string P-5 now has a J pick up at the bridge rather than a humbucker....a step backwards IMO.
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Well, here it is! ([url]http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0194690705[/url]) I like the 70's features, but miss the original American Deluxe body shape. It looks a lot the Custom Classic Jazz. Too bad they didn't do an American Deluxe Precisicn V though. And even at that, the 4-string P-5 now has a J pick up at the bridge rather than a humbucker....a step backwards IMO.
Well, there is a MIA Dlx that is more standard and then this jewel! Love the BnB and the 4+1. The price is up there though for me. That's getting around new Sadowsky Metro territory; which I guess makes sense. That looks sweet!
As far as B strings, just gonna echo the right strings and good professional setup. I got a Squier Affinity V with a killer B string. Elderly Instruments did a killer setup (no sharp or high frets) and the D'Addarios fit it nicely. They also will send instruments back if they're whack in any way.
I rocked it a number of times at church and everybody was digging the "Fender".
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Wow! Fender finally flattened out their necks!! And they added a 'true' active bypass switch which I think should be standard on all active/passive basses! True, the prices are now in Sadowsky territory but it seems they finally figured out how to compete with the boutique market. I'd like to know what the average weights are. I love my Laklands but I'd love to give these new basses a try!
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Wow! Fender finally flattened out their necks!! And they added a 'true' active bypass switch which I think should be standard on all active/passive basses! True, the prices are now in Sadowsky territory but it seems they finally figured out how to compete with the boutique market. I'd like to know what the average weights are. I love my Laklands but I'd love to give these new basses a try!
Go head and be the first to try lol.
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I'm really digging the look and specs on the new Dlx; especially the V. Guess I was a little off DW. New prices around $1700. These look sweet.
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i have a 97 fender jazz deluxe american 5 with noiseless pickups and i tune it a 1/2 step down. to me my B isn't impressive in either tunning. I've own a Musicman stingray 5 and that B string had a heavy punch and my friends ibenez B strings sounds better than my fender. But the new ones might be different. my bass is my 3rd arm so i'm cool.
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The funny thing is that the Sting Ray also uses a 34" scale. It just goes to show you that there are other factors that influence the tone/feel of a B string than just the scale leangth. I've even heard that there are some 35" scale fives that don't sound any better than an average 34" bass.
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(http://fender.com/themes/products/images/prod_images/basses/0194692706_xl.jpg)
http://fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0194690705 (http://fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0194690705)
The nut is 1.65!!!!!!!! I THINK I AM IN LOVE!!!!!
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The funny thing is that the Sting Ray also uses a 34" scale. It just goes to show you that there are other factors that influence the tone/feel of a B string than just the scale leangth. I've even heard that there are some 35" scale fives that don't sound any better than an average 34" bass.
I agree with this. 35" scale just affords a 'tighter feeling' B string more so than a bass with 34" scale. Good sounding B strings are more attributed to a good string, proper nut cut, proper string winding/angle & proper neck setup.
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The nut is 1.65!!!!!!!! I THINK I AM IN LOVE!!!!!
That just looks sweet!!!
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The nut is 1.65!!!!!!!! I THINK I AM IN LOVE!!!!!
Why Fender, why???? I'm already strarting to count my nickels and dimes for an American Deluxe Strat (H-S-S) and now you guys have me GASin' for an Amer. Dlx. Jazz V....and I'm a guitarist!!! (Well, I guess I could always sell my MIM Dlx. Active Jazz V if I really wanted to do this.)
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I'm officially starting my savings fund to get one! that bad boy is AMAZING!i will get the geddy version like shown above.
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never really liked the 4+1 setup on the Fenders. the headstock can make or break a bass for me. but digging the rest, especially the rectangle inlays.
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A friend of mine just bought one. He is raving about it. The active/passive switch definite has my attention because I was gonna go with a local boutique builder for that very feature with some crazy electronics. Guess they've gotten the message to step it up.
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never really liked the 4+1 setup on the Fenders. the headstock can make or break a bass for me. but digging the rest, especially the rectangle inlays.
You, sir, are one of 7 people in the whole wide world that don't like the 4+1 tuner arrangement ;D. The one thing that I wish they hadn't done was to get rid of the American Deluxe body shape.
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[url]http://fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0194690705[/url] ([url]http://fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0194690705[/url])
The nut is 1.65!!!!!!!! I THINK I AM IN LOVE!!!!!
Wow!!!! I'm speechless!
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I've GOTTA say, Fender AM Deluxe 5 is IT!! I've had "Justine" for 8 yrs. or so. SWEET as spring rain!! The Samarian Noiseless PU's are awsome. If you get the chance invest. I haven't played a new one, mine has all 5 tuners together, the new ones have the G tuner over and bottom if U know what I mean.
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What was it about the SCN pickups that impress u the most? I'm looking into a pair of Barts pickups for my
Fender Jazz 5. Trying to get some compare opinions first. Thanks !!
I bought a 07 that had the SCN's in it and I didn't care for them at all so I went with Nordstrands and didn't care for those either, so I actually ended up putting a pair of 95 MIA 5 string pickups ( i.e. John shur pickups) in it along with the FMEQ 1 Preamp from that same bass and turned out to be a great souding bass
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I need me a jazz bass and was thinking about a fender, but i tune half step down and i think fenders are 34 scale. I was wondering if the b string flop alot tune half step down on fender jazz.
Thanks for help.
I have a Marcus Miller V,and I've tune a 1/2 step down a few times and I had no problems with the B socalled flopping at all..
I mean Anthony Jackson did for years on his 68 P bass all the way up until 1982
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I bought a 07 that had the SCN's in it and I didn't care for them at all so I went with Nordstrands and didn't care for those either, so I actually ended up putting a pair of 95 MIA 5 string pickups ( i.e. John shur pickups) in it along with the FMEQ 1 Preamp from that same bass and turned out to be a great sounding bass
I don't think the Nordies were the problem. Had to be the pre-amp. I have Nordies in my JO5 and they kill!
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Wow! Fender finally flattened out their necks!! And they added a 'true' active bypass switch which I think should be standard on all active/passive basses! True, the prices are now in Sadowsky territory but it seems they finally figured out how to compete with the boutique market. I'd like to know what the average weights are. I love my Laklands but I'd love to give these new basses a try!
Well they did the by pass active switch with the Marcus Miller V,but the problem was ( and still is)that you don't have the ability to dial your tone in with the bass in passive mode and it still that way with the New American Deluxes,but the bass sounds great so I bought one
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Well they did the by pass active switch with the Marcus Miller V,but the problem was ( and still is)that you don't have the ability to dial your tone in with the bass in passive mode and it still that way with the New American Deluxes,but the bass sounds great so I bought one
Are you sure the Marcus was a 'true' bypass?? I owned one and if the battery went dead, the bass wouldn't play in passive either. I believe these new Deluxes will play in passive if the battery goes dead!
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You, sir, are one of 7 people in the whole wide world that don't like the 4+1 tuner arrangement ;D. The one thing that I wish they hadn't done was to get rid of the American Deluxe body shape.
One of 8....
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I never liked the 5 in line array! 4+1 or 5+2 (Like my Lakland) I like!
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One of 8....
The five-on-a-side peghead doesn't look bad, but some people feel that it makes for a neck heavy intrument.
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I never liked the 5 in line array! 4+1 or 5+2 (Like my Lakland) I like!
This
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What are all the possible arrangements for a 5 string?
5 inline
4+1
3+2
2+3
1+4
5 inline but the tuners are on the opposite side?
Also does anyone make a 1+4? or a 2+3?
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...Also does anyone make a 1+4? or a 2+3?
(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/martinjlm/Marchlewski%20Basses/Marchlewski5String.jpg)
Yes.....but then, I specifically ordered it that way
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looks like I have some digging to do to find that picture you uploaded showing all your basses.
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Just in case many of you are looking to get the fender american 2010 they are $1699 on Americanmusical.com OR 5 easy payments of $340 and they send it to you immediately after the first payment no interest no wait!!!!
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Anybody own one yet? I'm thinking hard on the all natural I hate to be one that mis bad as my luck is.
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Also does anyone make a 1+4? or a 2+3?
The G & L's also come in a 3 + 2.
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The G & L's also come in a 3 + 2.
Yeah, there's a ton of 3+2 headstocks. I've owned Alembic, Roscoe, Ken Smith, and Lakland 3+2 headstock designs. I think Yamaha and Ibanez are also 3+2.
There's just not a lot of 2+3. The only 2+3 I recall seeing before I ordered mine was MTD 535.
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I don't think the Nordies were the problem. Had to be the pre-amp. I have Nordies in my JO5 and they kill!
No bro it was the pickups, because I've tried them in my 74 Jazz Bass( that has no preamp) and I ended up going with Jason Lollars
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Are you sure the Marcus was a 'true' bypass?? I owned one and if the battery went dead, the bass wouldn't play in passive either. I believe these new Deluxes will play in passive if the battery goes dead!
well not really,however I rewired it the way it should've been ( @ least to me !) in the 1st place,and now I can play the bass in Passive mode ( which is most of the time)and use my tonal controls while the bass is in passive or active mode