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Title: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 09, 2011, 09:26:18 AM
OK DIRECTORS & M.O.M'S

SERIES OF QUESTIONS COMING YOUR WAY:

1. HOW WOULD YOU ARRANGE YOUR CHOIR (SEATING)
YOU HAVE 2 1ST SOPRANOS
                 2 2ND SOPRANOS
MORESO..... WOULD YOU PLACE THE 1ST SOPRANOS TOGETHER
AND THEN THE 2ND SOPRANOS ON THE NEXT ROW?
JUST CURIOUS....
AND MY 2ND SOPRANO'S HAVE VERY SOFT WEAK VOICES.....
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 09, 2011, 10:13:42 AM
It depends on your mic set-up. Weaker voices? They sit/stand closer to the mic to get the intended harmony you desire.

Or, make them altos. You said their voices are weak, not that they can't sing.
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 09, 2011, 10:44:25 AM
It depends on your mic set-up. Weaker voices? They sit/stand closer to the mic to get the intended harmony you desire.

Or, make them altos. You said their voices are weak, not that they can't sing.

WELL IN MY OPINION A COMBONATION OF BOTH...THEY HAVE THAT CRACKY VOICE WITH TREMBLE.....
BUT THEY ARE OLDER AND I OVER LOOK THEM..... THEY ARE TRYING
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 09, 2011, 01:55:38 PM
WELL IN MY OPINION A COMBONATION OF BOTH...THEY HAVE THAT CRACKY VOICE WITH TREMBLE.....
BUT THEY ARE OLDER AND I OVER LOOK THEM..... THEY ARE TRYING

Hmmm, that doesn't help me help you. Can they carry the alto note? If they can, perhaps that will assist in decreasing the cracky voice you describe.
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 09, 2011, 01:59:11 PM
Hmmm, that doesn't help me help you. Can they carry the alto note? If they can, perhaps that will assist in decreasing the cracky voice you describe.
OK THEY CAN NOT SING ALTO...
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 09, 2011, 02:03:48 PM
HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH CHOIR MEMBERS THAT DONT SING....
THEY COME IN AND OUT.....
HAVE PITCH ISSUES......
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 09, 2011, 02:35:35 PM
OK THEY CAN NOT SING ALTO...

Now, we have a problem. If they can't hear the harmony part for the alto, how are they singing 2nd soprano; are you creating a part that fits the usual three-part harmony of most gospel songs?

HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH CHOIR MEMBERS THAT DONT SING....
THEY COME IN AND OUT.....
HAVE PITCH ISSUES......

Put the pitch-challenged singers amidst the strong singers.  If they don't sing, they might want to rethink their ministry calling. *kanyeshrug*
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 09, 2011, 02:51:08 PM
Now, we have a problem. If they can't hear the harmony part for the alto, how are they singing 2nd soprano; are you creating a part that fits the usual three-part harmony of most gospel songs?
WELL I AM THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE CHOIR AND SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE NOTICED AND I AM TRYING TO GET A HEAD START ON IT SO I CAN FIX THE NOTICABLE PROBLEM
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION I THINK THE DIRECTOR WAS JUST PUTTING ALL THE SOPRANOS TOGATHER AND THEY GET ON THE SAME KEY..THOSE THAT COULD
Put the pitch-challenged singers amidst the strong singers.  If they don't sing, they might want to rethink their ministry calling. *kanyeshrug*
WELL MY REGARD EXACTLY ....... SOME PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THERE VOCALS....AND A MIC WILL LET THEM HEAR IT.....
PLEASE BE ON THE LOOK OUT I AM SO LOVING YOUR RESPONSES.....
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 09, 2011, 03:53:56 PM
NEXT QUESTION:
WHAT SONGS CAN YOU TEACH A CHOIR THAT IS MOSTLY OLDER FOLKS WITH LIMITED VOCALS AND ALSO SOMETHING THAT IS EASY BECAUSE OUR MUSICIAN IS OLDER AND CANT PLAY SOME OF THE LATEST SONGS......

SIMPLE EASY TO PLAY SONGS FOR AN OLDER MUSICIAN


Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 09, 2011, 04:30:56 PM
NEXT QUESTION:
WHAT SONGS CAN YOU TEACH A CHOIR THAT IS MOSTLY OLDER FOLKS WITH LIMITED VOCALS AND ALSO SOMETHING THAT IS EASY BECAUSE OUR MUSICIAN IS OLDER AND CANT PLAY SOME OF THE LATEST SONGS......

SIMPLE EASY TO PLAY SONGS FOR AN OLDER MUSICIAN

You'd have to give us examples of songs you all sing currently.
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 09, 2011, 08:04:56 PM
You'd have to give us examples of songs you all sing currently.
 we open up with o lord we praise you
GOD IS MY EVERYTHING
LAY YOUR HANDS ON ME JESUS
LORD HELP ME TO HOLD OUT
LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR THE LORD
JESUS -SHEKENIAH GLORK
AWESOME GOD
COME BLESS THE LORD WITH ME
GOD IS KEEPING ME
TITHES AND OFFERING
WE OFFER CHRIST TO YOU
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 09, 2011, 08:10:35 PM
You'd have to give us examples of songs you all sing currently.
 we open up with o lord we praise you
GOD IS MY EVERYTHING
LAY YOUR HANDS ON ME JESUS
LORD HELP ME TO HOLD OUT
LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR THE LORD
JESUS -SHEKENIAH GLORK
AWESOME GOD
COME BLESS THE LORD WITH ME
GOD IS KEEPING ME
TITHES AND OFFERING
WE OFFER CHRIST TO YOU

If they are singing those songs--well, then I suggest you merely find other songs by these artists (Chicago Mass, Georgia Mass, Timothy Wright--his 'Come Thou Almighty King' might work...it's simple and repetitive enough).

There's also Joe Pace and the Colorado Mass Choir

By any chance is this a Baptist church?
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 09, 2011, 08:16:25 PM
If they are singing those songs--well, then I suggest you merely find other songs by these artists (Chicago Mass, Georgia Mass, Timothy Wright--his 'Come Thou Almighty King' might work...it's simple and repetitive enough).

There's also Joe Pace and the Colorado Mass Choir

By any chance is this a Baptist church?
YES IT IS....
HOWEVER I LIKE CONTEMPORARY SONGS.....SO IT IS GOING BE A CHALLENGE

Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 09, 2011, 09:44:50 PM
YES IT IS....
HOWEVER I LIKE CONTEMPORARY SONGS.....SO IT IS GOING BE A CHALLENGE

Yes, it is.  :-\
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 10, 2011, 09:05:08 AM
NEXT QUESTION
WHAT IS A GOOD REHEARSAL WARM UP SONG?



 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: PianoClubhouse on March 10, 2011, 09:08:41 AM
We typically warm up on some common/well known hymns.....Amazing Grace, Blessed Assurance, What A Fellowship, etc.
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 10, 2011, 09:13:11 AM
DO YOU DO VOCAL EXERCISES?
IF SO WHAT ARE THEY?
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 10, 2011, 09:15:38 AM
NEXT QUESTION
WHAT IS A GOOD REHEARSAL WARM UP SONG?



 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm a big movie guy so when I saw your 'next question' in bold and large, I thought of the character George Washington Duke from 'Rocky V'.

Don't mind me, I find little things VERY funny.


We don't warm up, we just sing. By the end of the first song, we're warmed up.  ;D
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on March 10, 2011, 09:51:58 AM
I'm a big movie guy so when I saw your 'next question' in bold and large, I thought of the character George Washington Duke from 'Rocky V'.

Don't mind me, I find little things VERY funny.


We don't warm up, we just sing. By the end of the first song, we're warmed up.  ;D

lol :P
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: Japicaii on March 24, 2011, 02:47:54 PM
As a choir warm up, we sing Amen, it holds there voices, out and like I normally say,"Alright time to start and get them cob-webs out". It's easy and easy for a musician to pick up. It's in the key of C.
You can do it 2 ways: 1) as a 2 to 1 beat song {A.....MEN, A.....MEN......A...A....A....A.....MEN} It transpose up, from 0 to 4 at least.
CHORDS: your musican can always add what he needs this is just basic, and it can always be changed.
 LH/RH key: C

I'll post a video, of it when I get my piano back from the shop ha
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on April 01, 2011, 01:46:38 PM
Help.,,,,
Ok here is the situation I got 6 males on our choir...
And it seems like all 6 sing baritone or bass and I am needing a tenor...
How can I get one of my baritones to sing higher?
They say they are singing Tenor however when we sing accupela I show them that they are not.
I do want you to understand that with the exception of one all the guys are 50 and older......
I am trying to get them to sing ....But there voices are a little weak and some of the songs we are attempting to sing require the tenor to be strong and projective..... Well Im open for suggestions on how to maximize their voices ;D
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: betnich on April 01, 2011, 04:46:43 PM
As people age they start losing some of their high notes. So Senior Choirs often have to be pitched down 3-4 steps.

In our small choir our Tenors, who have been doing melody, are just starting to reach up to their parts. They are all 50+. One "Tenorette" woman, and 2 older men, a Baritone who can sing up to about Eb-F and the other who sings into the Alto range.
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 01, 2011, 08:06:03 PM
Help.,,,,
Ok here is the situation I got 6 males on our choir...
And it seems like all 6 sing baritone or bass and I am needing a tenor...
How can I get one of my baritones to sing higher?
They say they are singing Tenor however when we sing accupela I show them that they are not.
I do want you to understand that with the exception of one all the guys are 50 and older......
I am trying to get them to sing ....But there voices are a little weak and some of the songs we are attempting to sing require the tenor to be strong and projective..... Well Im open for suggestions on how to maximize their voices ;D

Get an alto to sing tenor. Problem solved--provided she can hear the tenor part.
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on April 01, 2011, 08:36:19 PM
Get an alto to sing tenor. Problem solved--provided she can hear the tenor part.
THANKS ;D
Title: Re: CHOIR QUESTIONS
Post by: ilovetosingforgod on April 04, 2011, 08:15:02 PM
How do you tell a person that they are not a song leader?


And Tell me this would you allow a person to lead a song if they sound god awful...? Dont know how to come in on time and sings so flat until it's depressing........

See I just dont get it..... My MOM will allow people to sing even when they just are no leaders......

So how would you as a director handle this situation...?