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Title: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: 4hisglory on May 23, 2011, 08:54:29 AM
Who here can (or likes) to play classical music??
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: T-Block on May 23, 2011, 09:57:21 AM
Me, it's my 2nd favorite genre of music. I'm trying really hard to get back into sight-reading and become better at it. My faves:

Chopin
Beethoven
Mozart
Joplin
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: under13 on May 23, 2011, 09:59:59 AM
I listen to it, but I dont play it yet. I need to start though.
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: T-Block on May 23, 2011, 10:06:55 AM
Classical music has taught me to appreciate the melody more. I'm usually pro-bass, but once u step in the classical world, melody rules.
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Tiptip357 on May 23, 2011, 10:09:31 AM
   I do.  It's fun sight-reading a piece...shoooo, I just love reading sheets, even though I haven't been playing by sheets in church much.

Me, it's my 2nd favorite genre of music. I'm trying really hard to get back into sight-reading and become better at it. My faves:

Chopin
Beethoven
Mozart
Joplin


I would have to say that classical would be like my 3rd favorite genre, and to add to your list, I would put Johannes Brahms and Franz Liszt up there...
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Tiptip357 on May 23, 2011, 10:13:23 AM
Oh, and I also gave that "classical look" (jazz and gospel have the "stank face")  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: 4hisglory on May 23, 2011, 10:36:03 AM
If you use ITunes, Go to the ITunes store and do a search for:

Rise of the Masters

Great classical music at a cheap price.
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: T-Block on May 23, 2011, 09:26:36 PM
shoooo, I just love reading sheets, even though I haven't been playing by sheets in church much.

Me too. Right now I'm trying to learn a couple Chopin pieces (Revolutionary Etude, Pololaise in C# minor) and  a slew of Jolpin rags. Reading the music is fun and keeps me on my toes.


Oh, and I also gave that "classical look" (jazz and gospel have the "stank face")  :D :D :D

I know what u mean.
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: 4hisglory on May 23, 2011, 10:20:59 PM
Wow, T-block, you have the technique to play Revolutionary Etude????? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Chopin Revolutionary Etude op 10 no 12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk1JQk90UbY#)
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: T-Block on May 23, 2011, 11:10:54 PM
Wow, T-block, you have the technique to play Revolutionary Etude????? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Ummm...that would be a NO, lol.

Seriously, I can play all of the RH chord parts, and I can play some of the beginning runs, but that's about it. And forget playing it at the speed it should be played. I can do it at about 1/4 speed. The biggest thing about this piece is fingering. One day boss man, one day!!
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Blessingss on May 24, 2011, 01:34:44 AM
I like reading so much too and I'm not sure whether this is would be a good start or not; pls give a feed back:   
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Fenix on May 24, 2011, 05:38:28 AM
Seriously, I can play all of the RH chord parts, and I can play some of the beginning runs, but that's about it. And forget playing it at the speed it should be played. I can do it at about 1/4 speed. The biggest thing about this piece is fingering. One day boss man, one day!!

Oh snap, dude! The fact that you can even attempt those left hand urns at the beginning is sick!  :o

**Bows down to T-Block**

Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: 4hisglory on May 24, 2011, 08:44:46 AM
Oh snap, dude! The fact that you can even attempt those left hand urns at the beginning is sick!  :o

**Bows down to T-Block**

EXACTLY!!!!

I want to play Chopin's Fantasia Impromptu.  Its like a 5 year goal of mine.  T-Block, you have inspired me to practice. :)
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Tiptip357 on May 24, 2011, 09:19:10 AM
Me too. Right now I'm trying to learn a couple Chopin pieces (Revolutionary Etude, Pololaise in C# minor) and  a slew of Jolpin rags. Reading the music is fun and keeps me on my toes.


I know what u mean.

Great list!  I love how classical has helped my LH speed. Quality practice with the metronome definitely helps.  I should upload a recording of me playing Transcendental Etude No. 10 in F minor by Liszt.  I played that at Jury, 2 years back, at the end of that school year.  Of course, it was played by memory, so the sheet music I used to practice was very colorful! LOL!

If you use ITunes, Go to the ITunes store and do a search for:

Rise of the Masters

Great classical music at a cheap price.

Schweet! Thanks, 4HG!
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: floaded27 on May 24, 2011, 12:11:20 PM
Wow, T-block, you have the technique to play Revolutionary Etude????? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Chopin Revolutionary Etude op 10 no 12 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk1JQk90UbY#[/url])


Now the question is, can he do that in ALL 12 Keys????


My mind works in repetition and patterns, which is probably why classical music never appealed to me much. Probably also why bass is more natural to me as well.
Also the classical music ive been previously exposed to seemed to be more about showing skill and virtuoso more than feeling the music (reminds me of the kid who can do all the tricks with the basketball, but seems clueless of what to do in a real game), so maybe my opinion is a bit biased.

But i guess giving it a listen might open up some new patterns. Anyone know of good classical music at a moderate pace, rather than blazing speed insanity? lol.

Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Tiptip357 on May 24, 2011, 12:31:16 PM
Now the question is, can he do that in ALL 12 Keys????


My mind works in repetition and patterns, which is probably why classical music never appealed to me much. Probably also why bass is more natural to me as well.
Also the classical music ive been previously exposed to seemed to be more about showing skill and virtuoso more than feeling the music (reminds me of the kid who can do all the tricks with the basketball, but seems clueless of what to do in a real game), so maybe my opinion is a bit biased.

But i guess giving it a listen might open up some new patterns. Anyone know of good classical music at a moderate pace, rather than blazing speed insanity? lol.

IRT to the part in bold.......yea, it is. :D :D :D


Because I started in classical,  you can hear it in my playing at church.  I think I'll upload some of that, as well.  I actually have some classical music that's more "contemporary," I guess.  I'll look in my library at home and get back with you.               
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Fenix on May 24, 2011, 01:59:49 PM
I really envy you sight readers. That is a skill i wish i had taken more seriously. I think i might just go back to taking lessons.
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: 4hisglory on May 24, 2011, 02:23:13 PM
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Now the question is, can he do that in ALL 12 Keys????

Classical isn't about playing in all keys

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Also the classical music ive been previously exposed to seemed to be more about showing skill and virtuoso more than feeling the music (reminds me of the kid who can do all the tricks with the basketball, but seems clueless of what to do in a real game), so maybe my opinion is a bit biased.

Classical is allll about passion and  emotion but different from gospel.  Classical deals with stuff that really isn't talked about by "church musicians"

-Precision
-Balance
-Articulation
-Dynamics
-Tone
-Pedaling

Its just entirely different.
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Tiptip357 on May 24, 2011, 02:32:56 PM
I really envy you sight readers. That is a skill i wish i had taken more seriously. I think i might just go back to taking lessons.

   You should, Fenix!  I think you'll do great if you stick to it!  A thing that's challenging for some is the patience that's required to learn to read.  We see where we want to be and would like to have arrived at that destination, yesterday.   In the end, you'll surely see the fruits of your labor.  Stay focused and be patient.  In my playing, I always want to make sure that I remain humble and teachable.  I say, "Go for it!"  :)
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Tiptip357 on May 24, 2011, 02:36:43 PM
Classical isn't about playing in all keys

Classical is allll about passion and  emotion but different from gospel.  Classical deals with stuff that really isn't talked about by "church musicians"

-Precision
-Balance
-Articulation
-Dynamics
-Tone
-Pedaling

Its just entirely different.

  Yes!  I'm thankful to be able to bring that training to the musicians at church. 
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: T-Block on May 24, 2011, 09:19:14 PM
EXACTLY!!!!

I want to play Chopin's Fantasia Impromptu.  Its like a 5 year goal of mine.  T-Block, you have inspired me to practice. :)

I'm trying to learn that one too, lol. The hardest thing is the timing. You got a 3 pattern in the RH against the 4 pattern in the LH, all playing at the same time. My brain can't keep that straight.

I should upload a recording of me playing Transcendental Etude No. 10 in F minor by Liszt.  I played that at Jury, 2 years back, at the end of that school year.  Of course, it was played by memory, so the sheet music I used to practice was very colorful! LOL!

Ummm...Heck-to-the-yeah, you need to upload that A.S.A.P. cuz I wanna hear it. :D

Now the question is, can he do that in ALL 12 Keys????

U know, I've actually tried to take some classical pieces and learn them in other keys. The thing is, the composers wrote the pieces in that specific key for a purpose. IMO, it really doesn't do the pieces justice to play them in other keys.

I believe one of the greatest lessons u can learn from classical music is PRECISION. Everything has to be 100% in its proper place to really get the most from the classical pieces. The right fingerings at the right time with the right dynamics can mean the difference between success and failure. It's definitely a genre of patience and long-suffering, lol.

If u like slower tempos, here are some pieces I recommend:

"Prelude No.4 in E minor" - Chopin
"Raindrop Prelude" - Chopin
"Funeral March" - Chopin
"Nocturne in Eb, Op.9, No.2" - Chopin
"Moonlight Sonata, Mvt. I" - Beethoven
"La Fille Aux Cheveux De Lin (The Girl With The Flaxen Hair)" - Debussy
"Gymnopedie" - Erik Satie
"Heliotrope Bouquet (A Slow Drag Two-Step)" - Joplin
"Solace (A Mexican Serenade)" - Joplin
"Adagio For Strings" - Barber

I could go on and on and on, lol.
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: floaded27 on May 24, 2011, 09:50:41 PM
Classical isn't about playing in all keys

i know. it was a joke referencing all the threads here and the keyboard room where folks mentioned u arent a real musician if u cant play ur stuff in all keys. forgot this was the internet and didnt put a "lol" at the end. sorry.

Classical is allll about passion and  emotion but different from gospel.  Classical deals with stuff that really isn't talked about by "church musicians"

-Precision
-Balance
-Articulation
-Dynamics
-Tone
-Pedaling

Its just entirely different.

Oh i totally get that definitely. i guess for all the technique, i miss the musical ideas that are attempted to be expressed. it could be just me. i have been exposed to a few things where i can pick that out, but not too many. its not like most folks u talk to have their ipod loaded with classical music to get suggestions. I guess most of my opinion comes from me being a bass player (from most instruction that i've ever had, those key aspects are heavily dealt with for us in jazz) so i guess i listen with a different perspective, looking to get something from it possibly different from what a pianist may seek, so maybe i havent come across the right set of pieces that present what i may be seeking.



IRT to the part in bold.......yea, it is. :D :D :D

That part about "maybe being biased". It was a lighthearted comment. I know my opinion is biased. The fact that its an OPINION makes it biased by default. I like what I like, but if I dont like it, that doesnt by any means indicates that i dont respect it. i truly do. Many styles of music i check out, study because i respect it and can learn and incorporate some aspect of it and know it can enhance my playing. still doesnt mean it becomes a favorite.




i truly hope nobody thought i was slamming the music or insulting music that they like.
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: betnich on May 24, 2011, 11:10:32 PM
People tend to use the term "Classical" for mainly European music from about the time of Vivaldi/Bach (17th century) to Ravel/Debussy in the early 20th century, with outliers like Purcell, Renaissance madrigals and some of the more tonal contemporary film composers. All these get played on local Classical stations.

But in Music History the term Classical is applied to music of the period from Mozart to Beethoven, with the Baroque era before and the Romantic composers after that...
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Tiptip357 on May 25, 2011, 03:15:19 AM

That part about "maybe being biased". It was a lighthearted comment. I know my opinion is biased. The fact that its an OPINION makes it biased by default. I like what I like, but if I dont like it, that doesnt by any means indicates that i dont respect it. i truly do. Many styles of music i check out, study because i respect it and can learn and incorporate some aspect of it and know it can enhance my playing. still doesnt mean it becomes a favorite.




i truly hope nobody thought i was slamming the music or insulting music that they like.

No, you're good, and I knew what you meant.  That's why I added a few of these:  :D

You aight.  ;)
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: 4hisglory on May 25, 2011, 09:03:36 AM
i truly hope nobody thought i was slamming the music or insulting music that they like.

I didn't get that at all either. :)

Do Baroque and Romantic count as Classical?

Most people will consider all that "type of music classical" :) even though Its not.  Especially Baroque era musicians (like Bach).  They played the Harpsichord not the piano.

Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: T-Block on May 25, 2011, 04:12:43 PM
Baroque, Romantic, Renaissance, Minnimalism, etc. hey it's all classical to me, lol. :D :D
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: SupraSkytop on May 26, 2011, 05:03:44 AM
Me, it's my 2nd favorite genre of music. I'm trying really hard to get back into sight-reading and become better at it. My faves:

Chopin
Beethoven
Mozart
Joplin
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: GospelEngineer on May 27, 2011, 06:33:08 PM
Classical is what I started out playing. I don't play it as much now but I still pull out the sheet music and brush up on it occasionally.

This is one my favorite pieces to play

Sergio Fiorentino -- Chopin Waltz Op.64 No.2 in c sharp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jRcfjffUT4#)

I'm currently working on this one.

Friedman: Chopin "Minute Waltz" (1924) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PJqdkXDbSI#)
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Fenix on May 31, 2011, 05:49:29 AM
That is it! I may be 27, but i refuse to believe i cannot learn to play classical music! I am taking lessons!
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: csedwards2 on May 31, 2011, 08:33:32 AM
I used to. Its good for reading. But to keep my reading up now, I read songbook transcriptions (ie. Judith McAllister/Herbie Hancock/Horace Silver/Cedar Walton)
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: 4hisglory on May 31, 2011, 10:43:00 AM
That is it! I may be 27, but i refuse to believe i cannot learn to play classical music! I am taking lessons!

Fenix, I hear you.  I'm 37 and I made that decision 4 months ago.  I was tired of limiting myself.
Title: Re: Who here plays Classical Music?
Post by: Fenix on June 03, 2011, 07:31:50 AM
Fenix, I hear you.  I'm 37 and I made that decision 4 months ago.  I was tired of limiting myself.

You're kidding!

No, seriously, you're ONLY 37?  :-\  ;D