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Title: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 14, 2011, 05:53:32 PM
A couple of my friends are at GMWA, and one just said that they announced that Pastor Tims had a heart attack and passed away a couple of hours ago in NY.

I pray this isn't true. There's nothing online yet. Anybody hear anything?

:'(
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: blyempowered on August 14, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
A couple of my friends are at GMWA, and one just said that they announced that Pastor Tims had a heart attack and passed away a couple of hours ago in NY.

I pray this isn't true. There's nothing online yet. Anybody hear anything?

:'(

Some gospel artist have been tweeting that he's passed away. I just sent a tweet to one of them (who usually responds) to see if there was a link or something confirming his death.

I hope it's not true either.....*sigh*
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 14, 2011, 05:59:59 PM
You know, I'm so sick of all these false death rumors/lies. If they didn't lie so much, we wouldn't have to wonder if stuff is true. Ole stankin liars.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: blyempowered on August 14, 2011, 06:01:41 PM
You know, I'm so sick of all these false death rumors/lies. If they didn't lie so much, we wouldn't have to wonder if stuff is true. Ole stankin liars.

Right!
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: nessalynn77 on August 14, 2011, 06:14:34 PM
He's not dead.  He's just getting a divorce.  People posted it with messages like "praying for the family" which made other people think he was dead.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: nessalynn77 on August 14, 2011, 06:15:52 PM
...Apparently stepping down from his position in the ministry, as well.  Infidelity.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: Jmanley1116 on August 14, 2011, 06:23:31 PM
You know that for sure??  Twitter and Facebook are on fire talking about him dying.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: vtguy84 on August 14, 2011, 06:23:46 PM
Nessa that happened a couple years ago.  There have been confirmed reports that he has indeed died of a heart attack earlier this afternoon.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: blyempowered on August 14, 2011, 06:30:05 PM
Nessa that happened a couple years ago.  There have been confirmed reports that he has indeed died of a heart attack earlier this afternoon.

Someone just tweeted the following:

"I just spoke with Bishop_____ ______, by way of a PR rep of Pastor Zachery Tims, who confirmed that he passed away today in NY."

"According to _________, Tims was found dead in his hotel room in NY, where he was scheduled to preach."

"________ said Tims mom & ex-wife are on their way to NY right now. I'm calling NY medical examiner's office for more details."
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 14, 2011, 06:30:42 PM
Nessa, he divorced in 2008.

A friend of mine (one of the Pace Sisters' sons) just said that his pastor friend just spoke to Pastor Sims' assistant, who confirmed that it's true.

Now of course, from where I sit, that's still hearsay, but it's the most direct confirmation I've heard thus far.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: nessalynn77 on August 14, 2011, 06:31:26 PM
My bad, just going on what I saw reported on a gospel radio FB page.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: Jmanley1116 on August 14, 2011, 06:36:27 PM
Someone just tweeted the following:

"I just spoke with Bishop_____ ______, by way of a PR rep of Pastor Zachery Tims, who confirmed that he passed away today in NY."

"According to _________, Tims was found dead in his hotel room in NY, where he was scheduled to preach."

"________ said Tims mom & ex-wife are on their way to NY right now. I'm calling NY medical examiner's office for more details."


Yeah...this was from Roland Martin. 
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 14, 2011, 06:39:41 PM
Thanks, JManley. That makes a difference.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 14, 2011, 06:41:41 PM
Ok and for those not on Twitter or not following Roland, his source was Bishop Donald Hilliard.

At this point, I'm pretty convinced it's true.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: blyempowered on August 14, 2011, 06:44:37 PM
SMH......LORD JESUS!!! #lifeisshort
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 14, 2011, 07:08:03 PM
Yeah, I heard from a few more pretty trusted sources. Still nothing on the news or any public statements from his church or family.

I'm truly saddened. The man is/was 42 years old. I mean.... *sigh*
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: JustBritt on August 14, 2011, 07:34:47 PM
Wow....   :-\



wow.......  :(
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: blyempowered on August 14, 2011, 08:11:35 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/28864192/detail.html#.TkhvogPPKZY.twitter (http://www.wftv.com/news/28864192/detail.html#.TkhvogPPKZY.twitter)
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: catslock1 on August 15, 2011, 07:14:36 AM
It's true!!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/08/14/2011-08-14_pastor_zachery_tims_of_new_destiny_christian_center_found_dead_at_times_square_w.html?r=news/ny_crime (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/08/14/2011-08-14_pastor_zachery_tims_of_new_destiny_christian_center_found_dead_at_times_square_w.html?r=news/ny_crime)
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 15, 2011, 07:28:09 AM
Thanks, Catslock. We know. 
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: catslock1 on August 15, 2011, 07:40:52 AM
I realized that after I read the other posts.  I certainly hope that there is nothint here to further taint the ministry.  The devil really knows how to go for the jugular!!
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 15, 2011, 07:54:51 AM
I realized that after I read the other posts.  I certainly hope that there is nothint here to further taint the ministry.  The devil really knows how to go for the jugular!!

And so do the people...
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: T-Block on August 15, 2011, 10:22:27 AM
I just heard about this from my sis this morning. I know of some people who attend his church. What the heck is really going on? :o
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 15, 2011, 10:23:52 AM
What the heck is really going on? :o


I'm hearing a lot of stuff. I actually had to make a decision to not read anything else because people love a juicy story and will put all kinds of stuff out there out of pure hatred and malice.



Anyway, this was a pretty good word:

ZACHERY TIMS "IT'S COMING" - , CLIP 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11yO6vziZE#)
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: vtguy84 on August 15, 2011, 10:37:38 AM
The Bishop here in Roanoke died of a massive heart attack in 2004 at the age of 42 right after he finished preaching. Hearing Tims made me reflect on that Wednesday night service.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 15, 2011, 10:39:01 AM
The Bishop here in Roanoke died of a massive heart attack in 2004 at the age of 42 right after he finished preaching. Hearing Tims made me reflect on that Wednesday night service.

Wow.

That's just not natural. It's just not. SMH.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: blessedwoman on August 15, 2011, 10:48:07 AM
I'm hearing a lot of stuff. I actually had to make a decision to not read anything else because people love a juicy story and will put all kinds of stuff out there out of pure hatred and malice.



Anyway, this was a pretty good word:

ZACHERY TIMS "IT'S COMING" - , CLIP 2 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11yO6vziZE#[/url])


Wow. I've never heard of this Pastor before, but I am saddened nonetheless. That word was blessed. Thank you for sharing Layla. It was a confirmation. My father touched on many of the same things yesterday. His family and loved ones are in my prayers.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: vtguy84 on August 15, 2011, 11:29:24 AM
Wow.

That's just not natural. It's just not. SMH.

Right....and the thing was he was in shape.  Went to the gym every day and even ate low-carb pancakes.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 15, 2011, 11:38:32 AM
Dang, this message is actually blessing me for real.

I've never been a fan of his style/delivery/voice, but the substance here is good. I'm appreciating it.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: Arkhams Finest on August 15, 2011, 11:52:34 AM
My wife and I call him "The Pastor that looks like Will Smith". 

All jokes aside, that's very unfortunate news.  I pray the church can move forward.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 15, 2011, 11:54:29 AM
My wife and I call him "The Pastor that looks like Will Smith". 

All jokes aside, that's very unfortunate news.  I pray the church can move forward.

I never noticed it before, but one of the commenters on YouTube made mention of the resemblance too.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: Arkhams Finest on August 15, 2011, 11:58:42 AM
I never noticed it before, but one of the commenters on YouTube made mention of the resemblance too.


Really?  I think it's pretty striking.


(http://thepopeofpentecost.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/zachary-tims.jpg)(http://news.tvoneonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/WillSmithREX_468x626.jpg)
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: sjonathan02 on August 15, 2011, 11:59:56 AM
My wife and I call him "The Pastor that looks like Will Smith".

All jokes aside, that's very unfortunate news.  I pray the church can move forward.

+1  And Tims' ex-wife is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: catslock1 on August 15, 2011, 12:03:54 PM
I think it's a very good resemblance myself.  I hadn't heard him for a while but I always liked what I heard.  Just heard it announce on the radio that he died of a heart attack so I guess that's the consensus.  I'm just praying for the ministry.  It's always amazing how chaotic it gets when a pastor dies.  That's when the "in fighting" begins.  Even those who obviously don't qualify starts getting the notion that they can pastor.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 15, 2011, 12:05:42 PM
Yeah, I mean I see it now. Just didn't notice it before.

OAN, yesterday, my mother saw some buzz on FB and sent me a text asking what was going on. I asked her if she knows Pastor Zachery Timms and she replied "yeah, he's the young, white guy in Florida, right?" I said, "no, he's light-skinned Black, Mommy." She goes "Okay, same difference. Geez. I hate when you do that. What happened to him?"

Me: **blank stare**

:D

+1  And Tims' wife is gorgeous.

Ex-wife. But yeah. Same difference. :D
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: sjonathan02 on August 15, 2011, 12:08:08 PM
Yeah, I mean I see it now. Just didn't notice it before.

OAN, yesterday, my mother saw some buzz on FB and sent me a text asking what was going on. I asked her if she knows Pastor Zachery Timms and she replied "yeah, he's the young, white guy in Florida, right?" I said, "no, he's light-skinned Black, Mommy." She goes "Okay, same difference. Geez. I hate when you do that. What happened to him?"

Me: **blank stare**

:D

Ex-wife. But yeah. Same difference. :D

Whut? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/?
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 15, 2011, 12:12:41 PM
Whut? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/? ?/?

You would just have to know my mother. LOL! She's a trip. :D

(Since you don't know her, I'll explain... lol. She hates when I hold up an answer to her question by correcting a detail that she considers meaningless, irrelevant or insignificant. In her mind, it didn't matter whether he's white or light-skinned Black. She just wanted to know what happened and felt like I could tell her his race later on... smh. My sisters and I are the same way. LOL)
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: SirTJ on August 15, 2011, 12:13:31 PM
I'd heard of him, but never knew he was. For some reason, I thought he was the white dude who always hosts TBN. It didn't take much googling before running into talks of his string of scandals, though. Something about the whole situation left me a bit uneasy. He was found dead Friday, but it's just being reported? Church won't confirm if he's dead, but will have a "meeting"? Massive heart attack?

But I'm praying for the family. His poor wife has four children to raise, including a special needs child. That's tough.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: funkStrat_97 on August 15, 2011, 12:13:50 PM
Right....and the thing was he was in shape.  Went to the gym every day and even ate low-carb pancakes.

I guess when it's your time, it's your time.  A few months ago, a hotel General Manager who was fairly young and worked out regularly dropped dead at the gym.  Seemed healthy and did all the right things when it came to taking care of himself, but just like that he was gone!
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: sjonathan02 on August 15, 2011, 12:15:21 PM
You would just have to know my mother. LOL! She's a trip. :D

(Since you don't know her, I'll explain... lol. She hates when I hold up an answer to her question by correcting a detail that she considers meaningless, irrelevant or insignificant. In her mind, it didn't matter whether he's white or light-skinned Black. She just wanted to know what happened and felt like I could tell her his race later on... smh. My sisters and I are the same way. LOL)

Oh, ok. I thought she doesn't see the meaningful difference between a white person and light-skinned black person. 

I infer that she didn't care about
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: csedwards2 on August 15, 2011, 01:56:48 PM
I'd heard of him, but never knew he was. For some reason, I thought he was the white dude who always hosts TBN.
No, he was the light-skinned dude who always hosts TBN
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: chevonee on August 15, 2011, 02:56:03 PM
This is a sad story. His family is in my prayers.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/15/florida-megachurch-pastor-found-dead-in-new-york-hotel-room/ (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/15/florida-megachurch-pastor-found-dead-in-new-york-hotel-room/)
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2011/August/Megachurch-Pastor-Zachery-Tims-Found-Dead/ (http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2011/August/Megachurch-Pastor-Zachery-Tims-Found-Dead/)
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: blyempowered on August 15, 2011, 08:10:49 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/08/15/2011-08-15_possible_drug_overdose_eyed_in_florida_pastor_zachery_tims_death_in_times_square.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/08/15/2011-08-15_possible_drug_overdose_eyed_in_florida_pastor_zachery_tims_death_in_times_square.html)

SMH!!!
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: funkStrat_97 on August 15, 2011, 08:54:39 PM
[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/08/15/2011-08-15_possible_drug_overdose_eyed_in_florida_pastor_zachery_tims_death_in_times_square.html[/url] ([url]http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/08/15/2011-08-15_possible_drug_overdose_eyed_in_florida_pastor_zachery_tims_death_in_times_square.html[/url])

SMH!!!



Disappointing. 
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: chevonee on August 15, 2011, 09:00:49 PM
[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/08/15/2011-08-15_possible_drug_overdose_eyed_in_florida_pastor_zachery_tims_death_in_times_square.html[/url] ([url]http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/08/15/2011-08-15_possible_drug_overdose_eyed_in_florida_pastor_zachery_tims_death_in_times_square.html[/url])

SMH!!!

I hope this isn't true.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: T-Block on August 15, 2011, 09:27:28 PM
+1  And Tims' ex-wife is gorgeous.

This.

The woman is FIIIINNNEEE!!! ;D
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: csedwards2 on August 15, 2011, 09:40:43 PM
how do yall know his wife. I dont think Ive ever seen her
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: sjonathan02 on August 15, 2011, 09:41:18 PM
how do yall know his wife. I dont think Ive ever seen her

I used to watch his program a few years ago.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: baggettcindy on August 15, 2011, 10:44:13 PM
This.

The woman is FIIIINNNEEE!!! ;D

I saw a pic of her and him during a ground breaking...and yes, she is sharp.  I was also thinking...he was one blessed man. They were a nice looking couple!!  He had a diamond.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: under13 on August 16, 2011, 01:20:15 AM
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/Jlaws318/thsig-img553.gif)

 :)
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: baggettcindy on August 16, 2011, 02:20:27 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/28864192/detail.html (http://www.wftv.com/news/28864192/detail.html)



I read that page earlier.  Hopefully there will be more info.  It almost seems like the envelope was planted there for some reason......I hope this is cleared up.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: catslock1 on August 16, 2011, 09:54:17 AM
Me too  :(.  I just found this link ... a little more uplifting.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/zachery-tims-dead-fla-megachurch-announces-viewing-funeral-plans-53982/ (http://www.christianpost.com/news/zachery-tims-dead-fla-megachurch-announces-viewing-funeral-plans-53982/)
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: T-Block on August 16, 2011, 04:28:43 PM
I saw a pic of her and him during a ground breaking...and yes, she is sharp.  I was also thinking...he was one blessed man. They were a nice looking couple!!  He had a diamond.

For real. It just makes me wonder wit these dudes that have the finest wives or gfs, yet they still go out and cheat. I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on August 16, 2011, 04:31:23 PM
mebbe they'll do stuff she wont.

like,

























































































































stop kvetching.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 16, 2011, 04:40:02 PM
@ T-Block, as we've discussed before, (imo) people don't cheat because they found someone more attractive or smarter or sexier, etc. People cheat because some folks always want MORE and never feel like what they have is good enough, and of course, because they don't think about the ramifications of their actions.   
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: catslock1 on August 16, 2011, 04:50:30 PM
Some people just want the thrill of doing something forbidden. They also don't think they'll get caught.
people don't cheat because they found someone more attractive or smarter or sexier, etc.
I agree with this.

mebbe they'll do stuff she wont.
I really agree with this.
We always have  heated discussions at church re: what one spouse is willing or unwilling to do to please the other.  Sometimes it causes a real problem. 
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: sjonathan02 on August 16, 2011, 05:34:36 PM
@ T-Block, as we've discussed before, (imo) people don't cheat because they found someone more attractive or smarter or sexier, etc. People cheat because some folks always want MORE and never feel like what they have is good enough, and of course, because they don't think about the ramifications of their actions.

O rly? :-\ I've got to believe that some folks cheat for that very reason and nothing more.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: funkStrat_97 on August 16, 2011, 09:15:56 PM
O rly? :-\ I've got to believe that some folks cheat for that very reason and nothing more.

People cheat because they want to and for any and every reason under the sun (not to mention our insatiable appetite for sin).  Human behavior cannot be defined linearly.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 16, 2011, 09:27:54 PM
O rly? :-\ I've got to believe that some folks cheat for that very reason and nothing more.

I can agree with that.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: T-Block on August 16, 2011, 11:27:55 PM
@ T-Block, as we've discussed before, (imo) people don't cheat because they found someone more attractive or smarter or sexier, etc. People cheat because some folks always want MORE and never feel like what they have is good enough, and of course, because they don't think about the ramifications of their actions.

I'm saying tho, why not just leave first then u don't have to worry about cheating?
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: Docdb04 on August 17, 2011, 07:34:10 AM
Men and women cheat for different reasons.  For men intercourse is 80% physical and 20% emotional.  For women intercourse is 80% emotional and 20% physical. 

I believe that men (not all but most) need intimacy for sanity (For a lack of choice of words).  We don't have to be emotionally connected or everything doesn't have to be perfect for us to get it on.  Just lay with me, so I can clear my mind and deal with this mess again tomorrow.  If you want to see a man breakdown, all you have to do is take away three things: His money, His job and good lovin'.  As long as we have a job to go to everyday, some money coming in (even if we can't pay all our bills) and some good lovin, we will not complain.  Matter of fact give us some good lovin and a job and we will deal with not having any money.   

Now for women (not all, but most) it is pretty much emotional.  After dealing with work all day, then dealing with the kids (Even if they have a husband that helps), realizing that they are late on some payments (or one payment or just the fact they have bills to be paid) emotionally they are not in the mood for love.  They just want to cuddle because emotionally they are empty.  A woman can have a great day all day.  Matter of fact, that great day can be turning into a great night for us men.  Someone cuts them off on the way home, they come home and a fork is in the sink or they realized they forgot to do something, your great night just went out the window.  It is almost like, everything has to pann out perfectly (emotionally) for them to get in the mood.

A women can shut down shop for 4-5 weeks and don't feel a thing.  We can shut down shop for about 4-5 days and we are like madmen.  A man can walk in the door, kick the shoes off and jump on you.  If a women is pre-occupied, then you have to do some work before she goes with it (unless she is already feeling it) or wait until later.  If the woman comes home, jumps on you and you are pre-occupied, you pretty much just lost your chance.

For a free one, woman stop thinking you are too pretty....

I'm done.   

That was a lot.  I guess I had a lot to say...lol         

 
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: MissMusic04 on August 17, 2011, 07:37:37 AM
I don't have any input, but that post was funny, Doc!
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 17, 2011, 07:50:50 AM
ROFLMBO out loud on the train @ Docdb!!! Hilarious!! :D and mostly true, too!

(I gotta disagree that women can shut down shop for 4-5 weeks and not feel anything. Simply not true for all of us. Some, perhaps, but not all. :))

Anyway, this morning, I was thinking about this thread. My friends (from the Rosewood story) experienced infidelity, and it just didn't make any sense to anyone, including the cheater. But yeah, folks are always gonna want MORE. Some will resist the temptation and some won't.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: funkStrat_97 on August 17, 2011, 09:00:17 AM
They just want to cuddle because emotionally they are empty. 

Come on baby; can't we do that cuddlin' stuff after we finish? (trip to the dog house)
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: funkStrat_97 on August 17, 2011, 09:09:14 AM
Some will resist the temptation and some won't.

Here is the inconvenient truth: all men are dogs....the difference between a faithful man and an unfaithful man is self-control (and the fear of an angry wife).
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 17, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
I don't believe all men are dogs. But I do believe that the ONLY difference between a faithful man and an unfaithful one is self-control. It is my believe that every single man on earth will be tempted by some woman who might be hot, and might not be hot. Maybe she's just more attentive. Maybe she's thicker or thinner. Maybe she smiles more. Maybe she's smarter. Cooks better. Has more sex appeal. Whiter teeth. Prettier skin. Dresses nicer. Bigger boobs. Fatter behind. Who knows? Every man will be tempted. Some will exercise self-control, and some will not. That's the only difference, imo.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: sjonathan02 on August 17, 2011, 09:35:30 AM
I don't believe all men are dogs. But I do believe that the ONLY difference between a faithful man and an unfaithful one is self-control. It is my believe that every single man on earth will be tempted by some woman who might be hot, and might not be hot. Maybe she's just more attentive. Maybe she's thicker or thinner. Maybe she smiles more. Maybe she's smarter. Cooks better. Has more sex appeal. Whiter teeth. Prettier skin. Dresses nicer. Bigger boobs. Fatter behind. Who knows? Every man will be tempted. Some will exercise self-control, and some will not. That's the only difference, imo.

Is that right?
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 17, 2011, 09:41:05 AM
Is that right?

:D

I said "I believe" at first, then I changed it to "it is my" and forgot to change believe to belief. :P
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: sjonathan02 on August 17, 2011, 09:42:02 AM
:D

I said "I believe" at first, then I changed it to "it is my" and forgot to change believe to belief. :P
I know.  :D
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: Docdb04 on August 17, 2011, 09:44:11 AM
Come on baby; can't we do that cuddlin' stuff after we finish? (trip to the dog house)

I'm saying.  They want you sit and hold while they have on their night clothes (That's what we will call them).  Then get mad, talking about "Why you don't want to hold me."


OAN: You would be on the way to the dog house


Here is the inconvenient truth: all men are dogs....the difference between a faithful man and an unfaithful man is self-control (and the fear of an angry wife).

True.  Especially the fine print. 
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: Hasmonean1 on August 17, 2011, 09:46:27 AM
I don't believe all men are dogs. But I do believe that the ONLY difference between a faithful man and an unfaithful one is self-control. It is my believe that every single man on earth will be tempted by some woman who might be hot, and might not be hot. Maybe she's just more attentive. Maybe she's thicker or thinner. Maybe she smiles more. Maybe she's smarter. Cooks better. Has more sex appeal. Whiter teeth. Prettier skin. Dresses nicer. Bigger boobs. Fatter behind. Who knows? Every man will be tempted. Some will exercise self-control, and some will not. That's the only difference, imo.

The gay man may be exempt if one considers him to be a man.  :D  None of the above kryptonite has an effect upon himer.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 17, 2011, 09:55:58 AM
The gay man may be exempt if one considers him to be a man.  :D  None of the above kryptonite has an effect upon himer.

Not so. Just replace "she" with "he." He'll still be tempted; the source just may be male instead of female.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: NJTheBishopAnderson on August 17, 2011, 04:07:20 PM
I'm saying.  They want you sit and hold while they have on their night clothes (That's what we will call them).  Then get mad, talking about "Why you don't want to hold me."


OAN: You would be on the way to the dog house

SOMEbody bring this man some juice please...
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: blyempowered on August 20, 2011, 07:25:08 PM
I don't have the link but I saw something about his ex-wife being heavily considered to be the next pastor of the church. I have to wonder then if she would pastor both churches, merge the two churches or what. That should be interesting.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: LaylaMonroe on August 20, 2011, 07:29:18 PM
I believe that's what he would want. They were still very close and she's still close with the church family.
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: blyempowered on August 20, 2011, 07:40:16 PM
I believe that's what he would want. They were still very close and she's still close with the church family.

I agree!
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: csedwards2 on August 20, 2011, 09:57:08 PM
I agree!
doesnt matter what he wants. What matters is what God wants. If HE didnt ordain it, the ministry will fail. Not saying thats the case, Im just saying a dead mans wishes doesnt even come close to the importance of being in the will of God
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on August 21, 2011, 06:48:04 AM
doesnt matter what he wants. What matters is what God wants. If HE didnt ordain it, the ministry will fail. Not saying thats the case, Im just saying a dead mans wishes doesnt even come close to the importance of being in the will of God

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Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: T-Block on August 21, 2011, 07:31:39 AM
doesnt matter what he wants. What matters is what God wants. If HE didnt ordain it, the ministry will fail. Not saying thats the case, Im just saying a dead mans wishes doesnt even come close to the importance of being in the will of God

POW!!!
Title: Re: Pastor Zachery Tims
Post by: sjonathan02 on August 21, 2011, 08:41:50 AM
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