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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Keyboard / Piano => Topic started by: SoundofJoy on June 11, 2012, 10:36:07 PM
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Here's a video clip of my latest youtube lesson
Don't Use the Transpose Button (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nPxD4Ifklw#)
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Preach!
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AWESOME with a capital "A"!!!!!! :o :o :o :o
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Im getting stirred up. I dont know the last time I practiced but I can do that stuff all day and not get bored. Time to pull the keyboard out of the closet and get to music. We need more solid musicians like you these days.
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This is probably one of the best teaching videos I've ever seen. I've been playing for a while, but I just learned something from this video. God bless you SOJ and keep doing what you're doing!!! :D
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I don't get much time to post here anymore, but I do on YouTube and if I said it there I'll say it here. "We all learnt something from this, keep up the good work & remain blessed."
Thanks Again.
PianoWiz...
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-_- MY DAD all the way. Always touches that transpose button. But I guess its cause he comes from a more classical background where as I come from an LGM background lol
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I was warned many years ago not to use that "button", and I did not listen. When tested, I failed big time and it almost broke me. Every now and then I am tempted to do so, but I adopted this mentality:
I am going to play this song. I may struggle, but I'm going to get through it by God grace.
If I heard it, at some point, I can usually get through. I spend lot of time practicing...a lot of time. I am not where I want to be, but thank God I am not where I used to be. If you listen to nothing else I say, please do yourself this favor; wean yourself off that button. Stop using it today.
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I just want to play a little "angel's" advocate here.....If when you play, you are changing the atmosphere and people are crying, worshiping, etc. Does it really matter wether you transpose or not? Is the person who has being delivered really paying attention to wether or not the keyboardist is effectively playing in all keys?
I know you can't go audition for the Sunday's Best band playing in one key, but what about the average musician getting paid little to no money who's only desire is to service his local church of 50-100 members?
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IMO, Transpose is a crutch. If you need it, use it. But if you can, wean yourself off it...
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I think there are times when it is advisable to instruct a new learner to learn how to use the transpose button and after learning, make full use of it. After wiping the eggs and tomatoes off my face, I will explain. If you are a middle aged learner, or perhaps a senior citizen learner, you will be able to learn to play much faster by learning everything in the key of "C" and then transposing as necessary. While you would be trying to carry thiings through every key, you could get pretty proficient in the key of "C" and perhaps even start to play for family, church, etc.
Most training material is in the key of "C" so it would not be hard to find material to use as learning tools.
You would learn(key of "C") every lick, every run, every progression, as many relevant chords as needed so that you could play them with your back to the keyboard. Learn all inversions of the chords to a very comfortable level. Then transpose, transpose and transpose. You are not Peter Nero.
Then after you are excellent in the key of "C", venture into other keys as desired and at leisure.
Of course, there are situations where the transpose button should not be used. We are all familiar with those.
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I just want to play a little "angel's" advocate here.....If when you play, you are changing the atmosphere and people are crying, worshiping, etc. Does it really matter wether you transpose or not? Is the person who has being delivered really paying attention to wether or not the keyboardist is effectively playing in all keys?
I know you can't go audition for the Sunday's Best band playing in one key, but what about the average musician getting paid little to no money who's only desire is to service his local church of 50-100 members?
It doesn't matter... until you have to play an acoustic instrument and are not able to "change the atmosphere" because you can not follow the singer and he tells you to stop playing.
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The transpose button is, indeed, a crutch. The problem is when you rely on it, you deprive yourself of the opportunity to become a really proficient player. Learning to play in other keys expands your "vocabulary" in your primary key(s). It helps you play behind singers better. You don't have to fumble around trying to make a modulation smooth when the praise and worship leader changes keys on you, etc. Take it from me. I depended on the transpose button for years. While I'm not yet proficient in every key, I AM more confident than ever before because of not immediately relying on the transpose button.
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It doesn't matter... until you have to play an acoustic instrument and are not able to "change the atmosphere" because you can not follow the singer and he tells you to stop playing.
This is true. What happens when you cant bring the keyboard and there is just a piano. :) Ive been to a number of places with no keyboard. Personally I believe God blesses those who put the time in on different levels that others may not get to see. God rewards faithful people.
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Those movements at the end on "I love you Lord today" were ridiculous Sam! Wow.
And yes, I'm in full agreement with everyone here. There are going to be days where that trusty button (wherever it's hidden on the board) is not going to be there and you are going to be looking like you really don't know what you are doing. It's best to NOT play than struggle through your keys because you don't know G (like I have done).
I definitely need more work on the rest of my keys as well. It's just best to learn all 12 and be done with it.
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I believe we all know playing in 12 keys is best. Any real musician is going to want to really expand his craft, myself in included on both the drums and the board. But that's not the point I'm trying to make...
I'm really talking about the local musician who does not really WANT to play, but HAS to play because there simply is nobody else. This happens all the time in churches. People end up on instruments even when they choose not to because musicians hop up and leave for higher paying jobs. John Doe requires $500 a Sunday, so now that the church can't afford him anymore, he leaves the church with nobody to play on Sundays. So now Joe X has to fill in for the time being because it's either him or nothing. I would hate for this person to feel like less of a musician because he can't play in all 12 keys like John Doe. Especially when all he is trying to do is help out his Church for little to no money at all.
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I believe we all know playing in 12 keys is best. Any real musician is going to want to really expand his craft, myself in included on both the drums and the board. But that's not the point I'm trying to make...
I'm really talking about the local musician who does not really WANT to play, but HAS to play because there simply is nobody else. This happens all the time in churches. People end up on instruments even when they choose not to because musicians hop up and leave for higher paying jobs. John Doe requires $500 a Sunday, so now that the church can't afford him anymore, he leaves the church with nobody to play on Sundays. So now Joe X has to fill in for the time being because it's either him or nothing. I would hate for this person to feel like less of a musician because he can't play in all 12 keys like John Doe. Especially when all he is trying to do is help out his Church for little to no money at all.
That was me for many, many years! The fact is, though, if I could learn to play in that one key, whatever it took for me to learn that key can be replicated for the other keys.
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Transpose is bad news, PERIOD!!!!
I've found in my experience that many people who use (abuse) transpose are people who don't know any better and were taught by someone else who didn't know any better, who was taught by someone else that didn't know any better, etc. It's just a vicious cycle of musical unexellence that needs to be broken.
When you know better, you should do better. We here on LGM know better, so it's time for US to do better so that the next generation won't have to make the same mistakes we do.