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Title: playing in every key not as difficult as you think11111
Post by: diverse379 on April 23, 2006, 12:31:49 PM
I struggled with this for a minute but I have found a pracitce routine which addresses this problem

I will tell you exactly what I did and you can adjust it to meet your needs

I created a chord chart using chords from several teachers DvD/s and work shops i organized them into first major and minor and dominant chords then later into I II III IV V VI VII chords   (chords on the scale degrees)

then I wrote the numberrs of each note in th chord

for example a minor chord written as

D/F,A,C,E  is    1/ b3,5,b7,9

i did this for every chord I play most in my key of choice as well as all chords that I think sounded good

now here is where it gets funky
I play my scales in every key at the end of the scale I play a 7-3-6-2-5-1 4
progression when I get to a key that I am uncomfortable with I consult my chart using the numbers I work out the chord that sounds best until all of them are done

using this method you get to choose which chords feel right under your fingers and you still kep the sound your ear gravitates toward.

I conquered my difficult keys in one day using this method now my 7-36  3-5-1 and 1-4 and 5-1 sound good in every key and they feel comfortable because I worked out the best chord for each

scale then progression

By the way several songs can use this progression Jesus is the answer for the world today

No weapon



you could also just play the scale chords straight up the scale harmonizing the scale but the 7-3-6-2-5-1- is more in line with how we play on sunday morning

So to recap
everytime you finish a scale play the progression if you play the scale four times play the progresson four times

hey if you really want to take it to the next level for every octave you play the scale play the progression once if you play the scale up and down four octaves at the end play the progression four times

after a week find insert your other chords into the mix eventually every key will be comfortable

P.S
as mch as i would like to think this is a very original idea the classical masters did something very similar look at the hanon scale exersise after each scale they played a cadence in that key

na mean?
Title: Re: playing in every key not as difficult as you think11111
Post by: B3Wannabe on April 23, 2006, 05:31:43 PM
Another thing a lot of people don't know is that some of the progressions repeat across keys.

A 2-5-1 in C, is a 5-1-4 in G.
A 7-3-6 in C, is a 3-6-2 in G.
A 1-4-5 in C is a 5-b7-1 in G. (kinda weird, but you can do it)

A passing chord that you'd use on the 5 in C, can be used as a passing chord to the 1 in G.
A passing chord that you'd use on the 2 in C, can be used as a passing chord to the 5 in G. (makes the Dmaj stand out more, because you're playing a minor before it)

These rules repeat for a lot of the intervals, and they also work with scales. Try them out!

The chord and scale rules are a little more flexible than the progressions. You can even substitute a lot of the chords or scales that you'd normally play for a certain interval over another.
Title: Re: playing in every key not as difficult as you think11111
Post by: diverse379 on April 23, 2006, 05:58:37 PM
Another thing a lot of people don't know is that some of the progressions repeat across keys.

A 2-5-1 in C, is a 5-1-4 in G.
A 7-3-6 in C, is a 3-6-2 in G.
A 1-4-5 in C is a 5-b7-1 in G. (kinda weird, but you can do it)

A passing chord that you'd use on the 5 in C, can be used as a passing chord to the 1 in G.
A passing chord that you'd use on the 2 in C, can be used as a passing chord to the 5 in G. (makes the Dmaj stand out more, because you're playing a minor before it)

These rules repeat for a lot of the intervals, and they also work with scales. Try them out!

The chord and scale rules are a little more flexible than the progressions. You can even substitute a lot of the chords or scales that you'd normally play for a certain interval over another.
[/quotyo ddude

you came out of nowhere with that one

i never explored that I always notice that when you look at a fake book there are a lot of key center changes but i never understood how to achieve it
believe me I will be working this out

mucho gusto mi hermano
Title: Re: playing in every key not as difficult as you think11111
Post by: B3Wannabe on April 23, 2006, 06:37:24 PM
De nada
Title: Re: playing in every key not as difficult as you think11111
Post by: diverse379 on April 24, 2006, 06:51:41 AM
something else I noticed sometimes in the beginning from day to day your voicings for some of the keys may change and you will find your self searching for the right sound this is  good thing because you are exploring hte contour of the new unfamiliar keys the same thing you did when you first learned your new key

take notes on the best voicings but explore the new sounds

Title: Re: playing in every key not as difficult as you think11111
Post by: music3298 on April 24, 2006, 10:32:43 AM
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Title: Re: playing in every key not as difficult as you think11111
Post by: zeph1 on July 18, 2016, 06:29:55 PM
Can I get a copy of this chord chart please