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Title: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience)"
Post by: CJKeyboardPlaya on April 02, 2008, 02:01:25 PM
Im just here to ask anyone who has that track "Worship Experience" if they have tried to break any of them chords and progression down>>??<<
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: T-Block on April 02, 2008, 02:31:18 PM
I have that song and I learned it a while ago.  It's not too hard:

Part 1:

4-3-6-2-5-1 (repeat)

Part:

4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1

key change up m3

6-2-3-4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4

key change back to original

5-1

The dude on the keys for song, Kevin Bond, does some crazy runs throughout the song, but this is the basic format. I been meaning to post chords for this song for like a year or 2, but I forgot about it, LOL.
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: CJKeyboardPlaya on April 02, 2008, 02:34:35 PM
You do know what the numbers mean right?
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: musallio on April 05, 2008, 08:39:58 AM
You do know what the numbers mean right?
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not making sense to ya?
we're U looking for the RH parts?
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: jjjoe on April 05, 2008, 11:45:09 AM
I have that song and I learned it a while ago.  It's not too hard:

Part 1:

4-3-6-2-5-1 (repeat)

Part:

4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1

key change up m3

6-2-3-4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4

key change back to original

5-1


what T-Block is saying is for the first part which I believe in the key of Db

Part 1 pattern

4-3-6-2-5-1 (repeat)

the format play

4th chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
5th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale
(repeat this arrangement)


Part:2 pattern
4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1

format play

4th chord of the scale
5th chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
7th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
4th chord of the scale
5th  chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
7th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale

key change up m3 (modulate)

6-2-3-4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4


play

6th chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
4th chord of the scale
5th chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
7th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
4th chord of the scale

key change back to original

5-1

play

5th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale


here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SnFo7P11Do&feature=related
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: CJKeyboardPlaya on April 05, 2008, 11:51:44 AM
well... i was kinda look for the  RH LH format.... but i do need to be taught alil more by T Main!!!
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: jjjoe on April 05, 2008, 12:00:42 PM
Let me ask you this question what is your best key you play in?
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: CJKeyboardPlaya on April 05, 2008, 12:52:14 PM
well... all flats and sharps... ya i know i need to learn my other keys and im workin on those...
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: jjjoe on April 05, 2008, 01:25:18 PM
Do you know about chord progression?
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: CJKeyboardPlaya on April 05, 2008, 01:51:30 PM
yea but im learnin bout the number system though....
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: jjjoe on April 05, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
The reason I ask these question to show you that if your chord vocabulary is large then you can use the numbers that T-Block says and use it in the key or keys you know;however, it might not be in the right key. Now I got a suggestion alot of yall going to get on me for saying this: you can use as only to figure out the formula in the key that you know, write it down in the key you know and take it one key at a time it is a good practice in which your chord vocabulary can expand dramatically also I would learn how to read sheet music and while I would learn how to read the sheet music, Look at the chord symbol on top of the line so you can see the patterns. I would suggest getting this book

Gospel Piano (The Complete Guide With CD)

INSTRUCTIONAL SONGBOOK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This comprehensive book/CD pack provides you with the tools you need to play in a variety of authentic gospel styles, through a study of rhythmic devices, grooves, melodic and harmonic techniques, and formal design. The accompanying CD features over 90 tracks, including piano examples as well as the full gospel band to help capture the true flavor of the style.

I was impress with the book you can get it at N-Time Music
http://www.ntimemusic.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=4711

then I would get the wow gospel songbook and the other wow songbook and I would learn the pattern of these books. it would help you to advance more in your music. I don't mean out of disrespect but to help
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: CJKeyboardPlaya on April 05, 2008, 02:22:27 PM
Hey thanks for the resource you have appealed to me. I will keep this in mind for future references.  Ill jus figure this one out .... somehow or another...



BTW, What key is the song in?
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: jjjoe on April 05, 2008, 02:32:37 PM
read this about playing by the bassline link

http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,54065.0.html

also this right here
http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,53939.msg523636.html#msg523636


hope this helps
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: jjjoe on April 05, 2008, 02:40:11 PM
it starts in the key of Db and modulates to D and finished at Eb.
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: CJKeyboardPlaya on April 05, 2008, 02:45:24 PM
ll jus figure this one out .... somehow or another... im not to fond of all this reading.... i have serious comprehension problems
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: jjjoe on April 05, 2008, 02:48:35 PM
ok

well the key starts in Db and end at Eb but Sorry if i didn't help
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: CJKeyboardPlaya on April 05, 2008, 02:53:56 PM
Nah you did HELP ALOT!!!! Thanks for takin  time for me anyway!!
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: jjjoe on April 05, 2008, 02:55:41 PM
you welcome

like the bible says that we must help one to another
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience)"
Post by: CJKeyboardPlaya on April 05, 2008, 03:57:46 PM
well i think my progress is in motion . and it came by this file i had in my archive.
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience) Track"
Post by: T-Block on April 06, 2008, 07:37:10 AM
what T-Block is saying is for the first part which I believe in the key of Db

Part 1 pattern

4-3-6-2-5-1 (repeat)

the format play

4th chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
5th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale
(repeat this arrangement)


Part:2 pattern
4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1

format play

4th chord of the scale
5th chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
7th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
4th chord of the scale
5th  chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
7th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale

key change up m3 (modulate)

6-2-3-4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4


play

6th chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
4th chord of the scale
5th chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
7th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
4th chord of the scale

key change back to original

5-1

play

5th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale

Ummm...u got that all wrong buddy, LOL.  Well, u misundastood what I posted.  I was just giving him the bass notes.  When I post progression numbers, it's ALWAYS just bass notes.  If I post chords u will either see them written out or in chord symbol form.
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience)"
Post by: jjjoe on April 06, 2008, 10:25:06 AM
if you are talking about that is the bass note then he was trying to understand what to play with the bass number so with the pattern one if you are talking about bass note pattern
Part 1 pattern

4-3-6-2-5-1 (repeat)

then you would normally play these for the bassnote if that what you are talking about the pattern

4th chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
5th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale
(repeat this arrangement)


Part:2 pattern
4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1

you said that this is bass note then you would play this then
4th chord of the scale
5th chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
7th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
4th chord of the scale
5th  chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
7th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale

key change up m3 (modulate)

6-2-3-4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4

if this is the bass note then this is the pattern chords to play
play

6th chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
4th chord of the scale
5th chord of the scale
6th chord of the scale
7th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale
2nd chord of the scale
3rd chord of the scale
4th chord of the scale

key change back to original

5-1

play

5th chord of the scale
1st chord of the scale

that is the understanding if that is bass note sorry out of disrespect but that is normally what you play for the pattern of the bass note i was explaining but thank you for clairifying that.
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience)"
Post by: T-Block on April 06, 2008, 02:17:52 PM
See here's the thing, just because I have a 4 or whatever in the bass, that don't automatically mean I have that same chord associated with it.  I could play a 1 chord with a 4 in the bass or something like that.  The chord aspect of progressions is treated a little different than the bass aspect.

Now, I agree if u don't know what to play, u can start with the chords built off those degrees.  But, if u want to sound like the CD, u gonna have to experiment with some different chords.
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience)"
Post by: jjjoe on April 06, 2008, 04:37:32 PM
you are right about that, but you have to have the foundation of the chord with the bass note. I agree that music is more of abstract which you can play different chord. However, you can agree that you have to start with the foundation now I didn't say what each of the chords to play I say you play with the bass note the 4th chord which can be a major or alter chord to play. It depends what you hear on the CD, but Normally if you play a 1 bass you play with the one chord you start with the foundation chord. in classical music they deal with the scale degree.
Title: Re: "William Murphy III (Worship Experience)"
Post by: CJKeyboardPlaya on April 06, 2008, 08:38:45 PM
Thanks fellas!!