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Title: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: vtguy84 on April 11, 2008, 06:30:09 AM
I wanted to get your ideas on what you think should be the number of singers before you define yourself a choir.  I will hear some people state that they direct a choir, but it'll have like 4 members in it.

So.....how many singers should there be before you define yourself a choir¿
Title: Re: What's the magical amount?
Post by: under13 on April 11, 2008, 06:34:30 AM
I'd say around 8, because that is too many people for a praise team. IMO
Title: Re: What's the magical amount?
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 11, 2008, 07:13:19 AM
I'd say around 8, because that is too many people for a praise team. IMO

 ?/? That's less than 3 people per part.  :-\


I'd say at around 15 people. That's 5 to a part. I guess it may also depend on the size of the sanctuary.  :D
Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: under13 on April 11, 2008, 07:54:50 AM
?/? That's less than 3 people per part.  :-\


I'd say at around 15 people. That's 5 to a part. I guess it may also depend on the size of the sanctuary.  :D

I'm no choirmaster, but I think it also depends on how strong the voices are and how skilled each member is. There are some 7 or 8 member groups that sound more full than 15 or 20 member groups. Quality over quantity

VT, Why are your question marks always upside down¿
Title: Re: What's the magical amount?
Post by: Tiptip357 on April 11, 2008, 08:05:09 AM
I'd say around 8, because that is too many people for a praise team. IMO
I'm no choirmaster, but I think it also depends on how strong the voices are and how skilled each member is. There are some 7 or 8 member groups that sound more full than 15 or 20 member groups. Quality over quantity

VT, Why are your question marks always upside down?


  I have to agree...
       In most of the churches that I've been to, my mom was the praise and worship leader and we always had 7 on the team. Our voices were full enough and our sounds could carry. Besides, when we had a song, we put the songs on the screen and once the congregation got used to a new song or if they already knew it, they'll join in singing just as loud and fortunately, most of them were on pitch... ;D

Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 11, 2008, 08:10:29 AM
I'm no choirmaster, but I think it also depends on how strong the voices are and how skilled each member is. There are some 7 or 8 member groups that sound more full than 15 or 20 member groups. Quality over quantity

VT, Why are your question marks always upside down¿


While I agree that 7 or 8 strong voices can carry the music, VT's question didn't ask about the quality of the voices.  :-\


And, depending on the person working with the 15 or 20, they could sound like 50. ;) :D

Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: under13 on April 11, 2008, 08:12:55 AM
  I have to agree...
       In most of the churches that I've been to, my mom was the praise and worship leader and we always had 7 on the team. Our voices were full enough and our sounds could carry. Besides, when we had a song, we put the songs on the screen and once the congregation got used to a new song or if they already knew it, they'll join in singing just as loud and fortunately, most of them were on pitch... ;D



We are getting our screens put up next week. Two in the front for the congregation, and one in the back for the choir/P+W. I dont know why more churches dont do that.
Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 11, 2008, 08:56:39 AM
We are getting our screens put up next week. Two in the front for the congregation, and one in the back for the choir/P+W. I dont know why more churches dont do that.

It. costs. money. ::) :-\
Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: under13 on April 11, 2008, 09:03:44 AM
It. costs. money. ::) :-\

Its costing us 6000 for 3 plasmas, Laptop, computer program and installation.
Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 11, 2008, 09:39:19 AM
Its costing us 6000 for 3 plasmas, Laptop, computer program and installation.

You're making my point. ::)
Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: vtguy84 on April 11, 2008, 11:11:18 AM
I'd say at around 15 people. That's 5 to a part. I guess it may also depend on the size of the sanctuary.  :D

....and this is what I've always thought.  Anything between 8-14 is moreso considered a chorale.  I'm not talking about the quality either.  I know some 3 voice groups that can take a 50 person choir in terms of quality.

As far as the upside down question marks.....that is a trademark that I've been doing for YEARS.  Having this loaner Mac at home is kind of messing with the trademark.

It's no different from your trademark....which is ......well you know :)
Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 11, 2008, 11:49:37 AM
....and this is what I've always thought.  Anything between 8-14 is moreso considered a chorale.  I'm not talking about the quality either.  I know some 3 voice groups that can take a 50 person choir in terms of quality.

As far as the upside down question marks.....that is a trademark that I've been doing for YEARS.  Having this loaner Mac at home is kind of messing with the trademark.

It's no different from your trademark....which is ......well you know :)

Indeed.
Title: Re: What's the magical amount?
Post by: betnich on April 11, 2008, 11:59:36 AM
12...that's how many we had at Choir rehearsal last night...on a good day it's 15-20...
Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: Formuzik on April 12, 2008, 02:28:54 PM
scholastically speaking:

1- solo
2- duo (duet is the musical performance)
3- trio
4- quartet
5- quintet
6- sextet
7- septet
8- octet
9 - 12 ensemble
13- 20 chorale
above 20 choir

Chorale can be any number of singers taken from a large choir  such as, taking 50 voices from a 100 voice choir.
Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: T-Block on April 13, 2008, 07:34:47 AM
It. costs. money. ::) :-\

EXACTLY, some churches can barely keep up with the rent, let alone buy big screen T.V.'s..  Every church ain't like yours man. ;)
Title: Re: What's the magical amount?
Post by: under13 on April 13, 2008, 02:01:19 PM
EXACTLY, some churches can barely keep up with the rent, let alone buy big screen T.V.'s..  Every church ain't like yours man. ;)

It aint easy for them either, but thats what they really wanted to do. the worship dept is still raising funds to put them up. I just play there so I dont know why the church isnt footing the bill.......

I guess it comes down to the churches priorities
Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: divinemusician on April 13, 2008, 08:46:30 PM
scholastically speaking:

1- solo
2- duo (duet is the musical performance)
3- trio
4- quartet
5- quintet
6- sextet
7- septet
8- octet
9 - 12 ensemble
13- 20 chorale
above 20 choir

Chorale can be any number of singers taken from a large choir  such as, taking 50 voices from a 100 voice choir.

just what i was going to say...

Title: Re: What's the magical amount¿
Post by: GRACENOTE on May 08, 2008, 10:24:00 PM
I think that it depends on the task that they are doin.
 If a group of people are opening up service with praise and worship then they are probably a Praise Team.
If a group of people are singin and A or B selection, they are problably a choir. But then I would also say that it depends on the size of the church(meaning amount of members). If the church has 5000 members you cant it to have a small praise team. or a small choir.
Now if yo church only has 20 members then you know that the big sista thats at the front of the church is the praise team. LOL (I miss thoughs days)
Title: Re: What's the magical amount?
Post by: phatstrings on May 16, 2008, 01:52:26 PM
I'll say at least 15