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Title: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Gibby on June 28, 2008, 11:47:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdFbhANcOk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdFbhANcOk)
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on June 28, 2008, 01:17:34 PM
WELL,you know you are THE man,when Paula White.Tell you to keep on playing,Called him by his first name. ;D ;D ;D ;DThat video was POWERFUL.I am going through something right now.I needed that.I am looking for a blessing from the Lord.THANKS GIBBBBBY ;)
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: bishopcole on June 28, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
The one and only "JJJJJJJDDDDDDD"!!! AND THATS A RAPP!!!   Bishop Cole
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: JayP5150 on June 29, 2008, 09:56:35 AM
Wow, YouTube's shutting stuff down quick these days lol. I just tried to watch this, and it's already been removed.  >:(
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Gibby on June 29, 2008, 05:13:39 PM
Wow, YouTube's shutting stuff down quick these days lol. I just tried to watch this, and it's already been removed.  >:(

are you sure jay?? It's playing just fine for me...
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: JayP5150 on June 29, 2008, 06:38:03 PM
are you sure jay?? It's playing just fine for me...

Hmm... working now. The first time I tried it, it said it was no longer available.

I'll watch it in a few when I get a chance.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Abe on June 29, 2008, 08:46:15 PM
Dr. J.D., Phd in Gospel Guitar, sure knows how to take a simple guitar line to the next highest level.
That was a great clip!   8)
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: JayP5150 on June 30, 2008, 06:55:41 AM
Ok, I got a chance to check it out.

It was ok. Actually the intro part was kinda "eh" for me, but when it kicked in, it was ok.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: jlynnb1 on July 01, 2008, 06:14:29 PM
probably my least fav Dubose clip that I've seen....
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: gtrdave on July 01, 2008, 09:27:46 PM
That was Strat abuse. Very emotional. Jonathan is alright by me.

Paula White...I do not care for her at all. Something about her sets my discernment meter off something fierce.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: JayP5150 on July 02, 2008, 04:11:04 PM
That was Strat abuse. Very emotional. Jonathan is alright by me.

Paula White...I do not care for her at all. Something about her sets my discernment meter off something fierce.

I'm very cautious of a LOT of the TV personalities. I just read something day about a certain preacher reporting the "miracle" of peoples fillings (that's right, in their TEETH) turning to gold...

What purpose does that serve to further the Kingdom--or that person's life, for that matter?

I'm not naming names, but this was a bulletin posted by this preacher's website...  :(

Hey, ya'll, don't mind those lost souls for the harvest, let's all pray for dem golds...  ?/?
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: jlynnb1 on July 02, 2008, 04:33:21 PM
hey I'm a JDub fan.....just not a fan of that clip.....was probably very powerful live...feeling the emotion and power of the moment...
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: gtrdave on July 02, 2008, 04:50:58 PM
hey I'm a JDub fan.....just not a fan of that clip.....was probably very powerful live...feeling the emotion and power of the moment...

I could hear some wiggly out-of-tuneishness happening when he went up an octave.
And it's not the most impressive thing I've heard him play, that's for sure.
Still, every note dripped with anointment, imho.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Gibby on July 02, 2008, 05:06:41 PM
I'm very cautious of a LOT of the TV personalities. I just read something day about a certain preacher reporting the "miracle" of peoples fillings (that's right, in their TEETH) turning to gold...

What purpose does that serve to further the Kingdom--or that person's life, for that matter?

I'm not naming names, but this was a bulletin posted by this preacher's website...  :(

Hey, ya'll, don't mind those lost souls for the harvest, let's all pray for dem golds...  ?/?


Yeah jay, but that is what attracts people, learning they can earn quick riches. Sad...but true  :(

Uriah says:  "Welcome to the Gospel Industry!!!
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: JayP5150 on July 02, 2008, 05:23:08 PM

Yeah jay, but that is what attracts people, learning they can earn quick riches. Sad...but true  :(

Uriah says:  "Welcome to the Gospel Industry!!!

Yeah, it is unfortunate.

I was church surfing--let me rephrase that lol... I was looking through the chruch listings online, and found one that I thought I'd really like to go check out. less than 300 members, beliefs were in line with the Word.

BUT, you get a welcome package of knick-knacks on your 1st vist--pretty standard, no big deal.
Your second visit, you get a Gas gift card... ???
Your third visit you get entered into their monthly drawing for $500 (That's right, its a MONTHLY drawing).

They also had right in their mission statement a quip about "financial advancement."

I was really let down. Until I saw all that, it appeared to be a perfect fit for a (finally) home church.

Oh, for the record, I wasn't saying anything about DuBose, I do believe he's got his heart where it needs to be when he plays. I know I kinda sounded otherwise. Didn't mean to.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: ctdstrat010 on July 02, 2008, 06:33:24 PM
I really didn't care much for the vid as well. As previously stated something about Paula White kinda creeps me out and makes me not want to trust a word that she says....Idk.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: GRIP805 on July 02, 2008, 07:19:29 PM
i agree the vid was ok nothing really stood out but from what i know sometimes less is more in those situations you have to be there.when i have been in those situations i found out the most effect thing you can do  sometimes is keep it simple and the  holly spirit  will do the rest. iam like some of you guys sometimes a dont trust tv personalities. not nocking them but i just dont know them enough.if i had a choice to hear most tv personalities or my pastor i will choose my pastor hands down.thats just me.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: SanctifiedGuitar on July 02, 2008, 08:16:12 PM
Dubose clip sounded good, nothing spectular but good for the moment...sometimes that's all it takes...simplicity.

Man, pray for tv preachers, some are false and you will know them by their fruits. 

There are a few tv preachers that are unselfishly preaching sound doctrine and are sincerely living for the kingdom of God.  Thier is no hype or deception with godly preachers (Read 2 Timothy 4:1-4).

Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 03, 2008, 12:51:47 AM
It seem like we want to knock Paul White,because she is seen on TV.Give me a break.It is not for us to judge anybody.I never heard anything bad about her.There are just as many bad pastor not on TV.They are like anything else.Some bad,some good.You never know,a bad one. just might be in your pulpit on Sundays.I worship the lord,not the preacher,if they are faking the gospel,God will take care of them.We do not have a heaven or hell to put them in.As for as the music,i have no ideal what he is playing,it do not fit the moment.Sound like some music from Japan.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 03, 2008, 12:55:51 AM
are you sure jay?? It's playing just fine for me...
Gibby,guess who just turned fifty years old ?/?No not me
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Gibby on July 03, 2008, 05:47:52 AM
Gibby,guess who just turned fifty years old ?/?No not me

I wonder...who?? 
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: JayP5150 on July 03, 2008, 06:33:50 AM
We do not have a heaven or hell to put them in.

That's a great way to put it, Rown. I'm gonna use that from now on lol

That's why I didn't name any names in what I was talking about. It makes me more sorrowful for the person/church that judgmental.

Gibby,guess who just turned fifty years old ?/?No not me

Easy, now... I'm still anticipating 30... I'm telling you, the first time I clicked 'er, it said the video was not available. Maybe they were updating the info, huh, huh?  >:(  ;)
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: gtrdave on July 03, 2008, 11:58:34 AM
It seem like we want to knock Paul White,because she is seen on TV.Give me a break.It is not for us to judge anybody.

Actually, yes, it is for us to judge each other.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 NIV says: “All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

2 Timothy 4:2 NIV says: “Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage- with great patience and careful instruction.”

Titus 2:15 NIV says: “These, then, are the things you should teach.  Encourage and rebuke with all authority.  Do not let anyone despise you.”

Ephesians 5:11 NIV says: “Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”

1 Corinthians 2:15-16 NIV says: “The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?  But we have the mind of Christ.”

We ARE to judge in a way that corrects and rebukes. If the Spirit that lives in me and has given me discernment capable of questioning the words and deeds of another believer, you best bet I'm going to judge them.
To not do that would be going against what the Bible calls us to do.

Now, we are NOT to judge the eternal home of a person. That is what Jesus was talking about when he said "Do not judge". I can not tell someone that they're going to hell or will be apart from the Lord forever. That's not mine to call. That's not even Jesus'. It's the Father's.

I never heard anything bad about her.

She and her ex-husband Randy racked up quite a bit of chaos over the years.
Visit inplainsight.org for some of the low-down on their down-low.

There are just as many bad pastor not on TV.They are like anything else.Some bad,some good.You never know,a bad one. just might be in your pulpit on Sundays.I worship the lord,not the preacher,if they are faking the gospel,God will take care of them.We do not have a heaven or hell to put them in.

But you CAN know a bad preacher if you let the Holy Spirit be your discernment. We don't have to sit there and take a bunch of hyped-up lies and then claim "I didn't know!".
You know God's Word and you know the Spirit that lives in you.
Ignore the lights, the cameras, the make-up, the pomp, the posing, the emotion and all that and you'll know.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 03, 2008, 12:10:16 PM
                We all have sin,and come short of the Glory of god.
                For those who have not sin,cast the first stone.
                God hate sin, but he love the sinner
                I do not dwell on the negative.
                I feed on the positive,
                I have love in my heart,for
                everybody.
                No.it is not for us to judge anybody
                because you do not the the HEART.
                We will not be judging on
               JUDGEMENT DAY
           
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 03, 2008, 12:16:04 PM
I wonder...who?? 
Roger Nelson
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: JayP5150 on July 03, 2008, 12:29:11 PM
Roger Nelson

LOL, I thought you were ripping on me being interwebtarded the other day.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: JayP5150 on July 03, 2008, 12:47:56 PM
                We all have sin,and come short of the Glory of god.
                For those who have not sin,cast the first stone.
                God hate sin, but he love the sinner
                I do not dwell on the negative.
                I feed on the positive,
                I have love in my heart,for
                everybody.
                No.it is not for us to judge anybody
                because you do not the the HEART.
                We will not be judging on
               JUDGEMENT DAY
           

Not trying to speak for anyone, but what I took from Dave's post is that we are not to judge someone's heart (which would determine their eternal placement--which Dave clearly stated), but it is up to us to challenge our fellow believers' actions.

That doesn't mean you throw the "you're going to hell" argument at someone, but it is, indeed, within our rights--and calling as followers of Christ--to call out our brothers and counsel them to abide by the Word.

Now, having said that, there is a point where some people are consumed with that, and want to make every situation an opportunity to throw stones (they all go to the church I was raised in). That's not right. BUT, if one of those people approached me with a sincere concern about something they noticed about my actions or the evidence of my spirit, then I cannot say anything against that person's actions of doing so.

If you feel a burden in your heart to say something to someone about their walk, and you don't, and--let's say, for the sake of discussion--that person dies that night...

What then?

Do you want to leave that out there for your judgment day?

I don't.

I know I'm going to be disagreed with, and that's ok, but I feel like every time I miss an opportunity to witness, or to counsel, etc., that's a mark against me. I feel a serious burden for some people that I have missed opportunities with, and that's something I continually strive to improve upon.

This very thing is included in that.

/opinion.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: gtrdave on July 03, 2008, 12:52:19 PM
                We all have sin,and come short of the Glory of god.
                For those who have not sin,cast the first stone.
                God hate sin, but he love the sinner
                I do not dwell on the negative.
                I feed on the positive,
                I have love in my heart,for
                everybody.
                No.it is not for us to judge anybody
                because you do not the the HEART.
                We will not be judging on
               JUDGEMENT DAY
           

Those are nice sentiments but they are not the Word of God.
And I'm not talking about not loving anyone but I am talking about living the real abundant life...a life not only of love but of discernment and teaching and rebuking and encouraging.
If Paula White or Todd Bentley or Benny Hinn or the preacher down the street starts twisting God's Word for their own personal and financial benefit, I will judge their twistings accordingly.
To do otherwise is to stick your head in the sand. It certainly isn't love unless love is now being defined as allowing a supposed brother or sister to perpetuate lies and mislead thousands who have been placed in their care in Jesus' name.
What would Jesus do?
Would Jesus love them by ignoring them or would he start flipping tables over?
Would Jesus love them by ignoring them or would he tell them "Are you still so dull?"?
Would Jesus love them by ignoring them or would he call them a brood of vipers?
Would Jesus love them by ignoring them or would he tell them "I do not know you."?

"Music from Japan"?
 ;D
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Gibby on July 03, 2008, 02:34:25 PM
Roger Nelson

I'm suprised no one posted it.  It should be a sticky!!!  ;D
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: SanctifiedGuitar on July 03, 2008, 03:02:22 PM

We ARE to judge in a way that corrects and rebukes. If the Spirit that lives in me and has given me discernment capable of questioning the words and deeds of another believer, you best bet I'm going to judge them.
To not do that would be going against what the Bible calls us to do.



Galatians 2:11-14
Paul Opposes Peter

1 Corinthians 5:1-13
Expel the Immoral Brother!

James 3
Teachers are judged more strictly

2 Tim. 1:15, 2:17, 3:8, 4:14
Pual named names

Here's a related article link below
http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2007/03/19/naming-names/ (http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2007/03/19/naming-names/)

Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 04, 2008, 01:38:30 AM
                                     GRTDAVE
                    You are probadly,the best guitar player on this site.
                        I can not agree with you on this. ;)
                          Bishopcole,where you at.
                                         
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: jlynnb1 on July 04, 2008, 02:15:36 AM
not much to disagree with really...plenty of scripture to back it up. where there are two or three witnesses...


Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: gtrdave on July 04, 2008, 06:34:33 AM
                                     GRTDAVE
                    You are probadly,the best guitar player on this site.
                        I can not agree with you on this. ;)
                          Bishopcole,where you at.
                                         

I hear what you're saying. I think it's noble and right to have a 'love above all other actions' attitude, but I think it's not only dangerous but un-Christlike and Biblically incorrect to have a 'love without any other conditions' attitude.

Look, we all just judged a man's guitar playing skills...it's not his most impressive playing, it sounds like music from Japan, I've heard better from him, etc...but we're going to withhold our judgment of a MUCH more important issue and that's the preaching of the Word of God and the equipping of the saints?
Our priorities are way out of whack if that's the case.

Jesus, when he prevented the woman from being stoned, did not give her a free pass to go about her worldly ways when He said "Neither do I condemn you" because He followed it up with "Go and sin no more". To me, that's great love expressed with a great command.
To the leaders and teachers of Christ's church, we ARE held to a higher standard. Me, Paula White, my pastor, T. D. Jakes, etc...we'd better not let the fame that we've received because of Jesus' name have us living lives that are no different than the world and have us putting on our church face only when the cameras are rolling or we're gonna be subject to some awful judgment which will begin with us already receiving our reward here on earth and end with...I don't want to think about it.  :o  :'(
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: axeman1 on July 06, 2008, 08:04:32 PM
Actually, yes, it is for us to judge each other.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 NIV says: “All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

2 Timothy 4:2 NIV says: “Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage- with great patience and careful instruction.”

Titus 2:15 NIV says: “These, then, are the things you should teach.  Encourage and rebuke with all authority.  Do not let anyone despise you.”

Ephesians 5:11 NIV says: “Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”

1 Corinthians 2:15-16 NIV says: “The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?  But we have the mind of Christ.”

We ARE to judge in a way that corrects and rebukes. If the Spirit that lives in me and has given me discernment capable of questioning the words and deeds of another believer, you best bet I'm going to judge them.
To not do that would be going against what the Bible calls us to do.

Now, we are NOT to judge the eternal home of a person. That is what Jesus was talking about when he said "Do not judge". I can not tell someone that they're going to hell or will be apart from the Lord forever. That's not mine to call. That's not even Jesus'. It's the Father's.

She and her ex-husband Randy racked up quite a bit of chaos over the years.
Visit inplainsight.org for some of the low-down on their down-low.

But you CAN know a bad preacher if you let the Holy Spirit be your discernment. We don't have to sit there and take a bunch of hyped-up lies and then claim "I didn't know!".
You know God's Word and you know the Spirit that lives in you.
Ignore the lights, the cameras, the make-up, the pomp, the posing, the emotion and all that and you'll know.

Dave, it is truly refreshing to find someone else that understands the truth about judging.  It's a shame that so many people are not aware of what the bible actually says.  Just read the 6th chapter of 1Corinthians and then tell me whether we are to judge or not. 
 
I think the problem is that we confuse judging people with judging matters. To judge matters can be considered counseling.  The bible tells us that in a multitude of counsel, there is safety.   I made this point in another thread but I will make it again (slightly altered);  The difference between counseling people, and judging people is that counseling people is telling them what is or isn't right in the sight of God based on scripture, judging people, is telling them who is or isn't right.  If we tell a person that they are going to hell, then we are trying to take on God's responsibility because he is the only one that can see in their souls.  However if we tell them that certain actions committed that have not been confessed and repented for can have the consequence of hell, then we are doing what God told us to do.

1Cor:2 "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?  and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Musician_46 on July 07, 2008, 12:18:19 PM
That was Strat abuse. Very emotional. Jonathan is alright by me.

Paula White...I do not care for her at all. Something about her sets my discernment meter off something fierce.

I have had the same feeling about her also. Something in my spirit doesn't feel right when I listen to her speak. I prayer for her.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Musician_46 on July 07, 2008, 12:40:03 PM
Actually, yes, it is for us to judge each other.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 NIV says: “All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

2 Timothy 4:2 NIV says: “Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage- with great patience and careful instruction.”

Titus 2:15 NIV says: “These, then, are the things you should teach.  Encourage and rebuke with all authority.  Do not let anyone despise you.”

Ephesians 5:11 NIV says: “Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”

1 Corinthians 2:15-16 NIV says: “The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?  But we have the mind of Christ.”

We ARE to judge in a way that corrects and rebukes. If the Spirit that lives in me and has given me discernment capable of questioning the words and deeds of another believer, you best bet I'm going to judge them.
To not do that would be going against what the Bible calls us to do.

Now, we are NOT to judge the eternal home of a person. That is what Jesus was talking about when he said "Do not judge". I can not tell someone that they're going to hell or will be apart from the Lord forever. That's not mine to call. That's not even Jesus'. It's the Father's.

She and her ex-husband Randy racked up quite a bit of chaos over the years.
Visit inplainsight.org for some of the low-down on their down-low.

But you CAN know a bad preacher if you let the Holy Spirit be your discernment. We don't have to sit there and take a bunch of hyped-up lies and then claim "I didn't know!".
You know God's Word and you know the Spirit that lives in you.
Ignore the lights, the cameras, the make-up, the pomp, the posing, the emotion and all that and you'll know.

AMEN Brother I agree with you about the word  you just expressed. I just don't read from no other bible except the KJV. And for those who don't go to a church the bible say's in Hebs:10:25 " Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of same is; It doesn't mean that you stay in a church that your not being fed but find a church that when the preacher is preaching the word where it convicts you, heal you, and lifts you up. Paul say's in 1 Cor. 9:16 "For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!"
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Musician_46 on July 07, 2008, 12:47:03 PM
                We all have sin,and come short of the Glory of god.
                For those who have not sin,cast the first stone.
                God hate sin, but he love the sinner
                I do not dwell on the negative.
                I feed on the positive,
                I have love in my heart,for
                everybody.
                No.it is not for us to judge anybody
                because you do not the the HEART.
                We will not be judging on
               JUDGEMENT DAY

1 Cor.6:2 " Do you not know that the saints (We who are born of Christ) shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
           
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Musician_46 on July 07, 2008, 01:01:15 PM
Not trying to speak for anyone, but what I took from Dave's post is that we are not to judge someone's heart (which would determine their eternal placement--which Dave clearly stated), but it is up to us to challenge our fellow believers' actions.

That doesn't mean you throw the "you're going to hell" argument at someone, but it is, indeed, within our rights--and calling as followers of Christ--to call out our brothers and counsel them to abide by the Word.

Now, having said that, there is a point where some people are consumed with that, and want to make every situation an opportunity to throw stones (they all go to the church I was raised in). That's not right. BUT, if one of those people approached me with a sincere concern about something they noticed about my actions or the evidence of my spirit, then I cannot say anything against that person's actions of doing so.

If you feel a burden in your heart to say something to someone about their walk, and you don't, and--let's say, for the sake of discussion--that person dies that night...

What then?

Do you want to leave that out there for your judgment day?

I don't.

I know I'm going to be disagreed with, and that's ok, but I feel like every time I miss an opportunity to witness, or to counsel, etc., that's a mark against me. I feel a serious burden for some people that I have missed opportunities with, and that's something I continually strive to improve upon.

This very thing is included in that.

/opinion.

Yes Sir, you are on the right path. We must speak the word to those who need to hear. If we don't tell that person what the word says the blood will be on our hands. And in so many words we are to tell those who are in sin and unrightousness that if they don't change, they will go to hell. Be not afraid Jesus loves us all but we must tell them. Isaiah 5:14 say's "Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it." This let's me know that alot of people will end up there. The problems with some of these TV preachers they are afraid to let the people if they don't change their wicked ways, that include some for the saints of God, they will go to HELL.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Musician_46 on July 07, 2008, 01:03:15 PM
Those are nice sentiments but they are not the Word of God.
And I'm not talking about not loving anyone but I am talking about living the real abundant life...a life not only of love but of discernment and teaching and rebuking and encouraging.
If Paula White or Todd Bentley or Benny Hinn or the preacher down the street starts twisting God's Word for their own personal and financial benefit, I will judge their twistings accordingly.
To do otherwise is to stick your head in the sand. It certainly isn't love unless love is now being defined as allowing a supposed brother or sister to perpetuate lies and mislead thousands who have been placed in their care in Jesus' name.
What would Jesus do?
Would Jesus love them by ignoring them or would he start flipping tables over?
Would Jesus love them by ignoring them or would he tell them "Are you still so dull?"?
Would Jesus love them by ignoring them or would he call them a brood of vipers?
Would Jesus love them by ignoring them or would he tell them "I do not know you."?

"Music from Japan"?
 ;D

AMEN.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 07, 2008, 01:38:47 PM
        It is not for us to judge anybody.Leave that up to God.
                     Mathew;Chapter7
        When we judge someone,we condem ourself.
                    Roman;2 123
           There is nobody on this site,can tell me it is okay to judge anybody.You do not know the heart.Who are you,we are not in a position to judge anybody.Unless,we cross every T,and dot every i.That door swings both ways.


 
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Post by: lilBB on July 07, 2008, 02:27:23 PM
Ezekiel 3: 16-21

16 After seven days the Lord gave me a message. He said, 17 “Son of man, I have appointed you as a watchman for Israel. Whenever you receive a message from me, warn people immediately. 18 If I warn the wicked, saying, ‘You are under the penalty of death,’ but you fail to deliver the warning, they will die in their sins. And I will hold you responsible for their deaths. 19 If you warn them and they refuse to repent and keep on sinning, they will die in their sins. But you will have saved yourself because you obeyed me.
 20 “If righteous people turn away from their righteous behavior and ignore the obstacles I put in their way, they will die. And if you do not warn them, they will die in their sins. None of their righteous acts will be remembered, and I will hold you responsible for their deaths. 21 But if you warn righteous people not to sin and they listen to you and do not sin, they will live, and you will have saved yourself, too.”


if you don't want to call it judging...call it "warning"  ;)
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 08, 2008, 01:11:28 AM
                                  Matthew 7;1
   Do not judge,or you too will be judge.For in the same way you judge others,you will be judged,and with the measure you use,it will be measured to you.
  Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother eye and pay no attention to the the PLANK in your own eyes?You hypocrite,first take the PLANK out of your own eye,and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother eye.
                               Romans ;2
   You,therefore,have no excuse,you who pass judgement on someone else,for at whatever point you judge the others,you are condemning yourself,because you who pass judgement DO THE SAME THINGS.Now we know that God judgment against those who do such things is based on truth.So when you,a MERE MAN,pass judgement on them and yet do the same things,do you think you will escape GOD judgment?
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Gibby on July 08, 2008, 06:45:54 AM
Well back to dubose...you know he has more than one guitar?!  :D :D
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Post by: gtrdave on July 08, 2008, 07:35:33 AM
                                  Matthew 7;1
   Do not judge,or you too will be judge.For in the same way you judge others,you will be judged,and with the measure you use,it will be measured to you.
  Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother eye and pay no attention to the the PLANK in your own eyes?You hypocrite,first take the PLANK out of your own eye,and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother eye.
                               Romans ;2
   You,therefore,have no excuse,you who pass judgement on someone else,for at whatever point you judge the others,you are condemning yourself,because you who pass judgement DO THE SAME THINGS.Now we know that God judgment against those who do such things is based on truth.So when you,a MERE MAN,pass judgement on them and yet do the same things,do you think you will escape GOD judgment?

Context, my friend. It's all context.
Do you know the meaning behind those scriptures that you posted?
searchgodsword.org is a great teaching resource and I used it (and other sources) to study the above verses in the past because it's a favorite weapon of the unsaved world to want to tell us Christians that we "should not judge" based on those two verses.
In reality, their words come from ignorance in not knowing what the scriptures say in context.
As was already said and repeated, we're talking about judging actions, words, thoughts and deeds. We're not judging people.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 08, 2008, 10:43:34 AM
No my friend,those words come from the good book.Ignorance has nothing to do with.You maybe some guitar GOD,BUT YOU ARE NO GOD OF MINES.And never will be.This comes from my teaching,this is what i am sticking with.If you talking about,words,thoughts actions,deeds.Where in the world is this coming from,human being right.Are human being people.Are the actions,thoughts,deeds coming from cats,dogs.To speak of ignorance.Like the word said,get the plank out of your eyes.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 08, 2008, 11:15:58 AM
Well back to dubose...you know he has more than one guitar?!  :D :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: gtrdave on July 08, 2008, 12:11:45 PM
No my friend,those words come from the good book.Ignorance has nothing to do with.You maybe some guitar GOD,BUT YOU ARE NO GOD OF MINES.And never will be.This comes from my teaching,this is what i am sticking with.If you talking about,words,thoughts actions,deeds.Where in the world is this coming from,human being right.Are human being people.Are the actions,thoughts,deeds coming from cats,dogs.To speak of ignorance.Like the word said,get the plank out of your eyes.

So you're going to ignore all of the other scriptures that were clearly presented to you?
That's picking and choosing to suit your advantage. What do you do with those scriptures?
If ALL scripture is "God breathed" (2 Timothy 3:16) then you can't ignore that which you do not agree with simply because you do not understand the context of it.

And, please, do not use this "guitar god" stuff with me. I'm just a guy and just a guitar player so calm yourself down and stop trying to put me on a pedestal which I am not wanting to be on. Neither one of us is higher nor mightier than the other regardless of who we are or what we do.
Iron sharpens iron, brother. Proverbs 27:17.
That's all this is.
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 08, 2008, 01:31:29 PM
That is why we should not judge each other.If it your actions,deeds,i do not agree with.I wiil pray for you,not judge.This is my teaching at my chruch.I know this story,of a man who visit this church.The man was dressed like a homeless person.The people judge him on his appearance,what they did not know,he was one of the riches persons in the city.He was a millionaire,it is just the way he dressed.He gave alot of his money to homeless people,this is what i mean you do not know a person heart.No you are not a guitar GOD,BUT YOU STILL THE MAN.We do not agree on this,and never will,so lets leave it alone.
         
PEACE
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Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Gibby on July 08, 2008, 01:57:17 PM
you know dubose has a blue and a black guitar??  ;D
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: gtrdave on July 08, 2008, 02:08:49 PM
That is why we should not judge each other.If it your actions,deeds,i do not agree with.I wiil pray for you,not judge.This is my teaching at my chruch.I know this story,of a man who visit this church.The man was dressed like a homeless person.The people judge him on his appearance,what they did not know,he was one of the riches persons in the city.He was a millionaire,it is just the way he dressed.He gave alot of his money to homeless people,this is what i mean you do not know a person heart.No you are not a guitar GOD,BUT YOU STILL THE MAN.We do not agree on this,and never will,so lets leave it alone.
         
PEACE
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I see your point...but how someone is dressed at church has NOTHING to do with how this conversation started.  ;D

Hear me out...LOVE is above all. It is the GREATEST commandment: Love God and love others.
There it is, straight from the Savior.
We agree on that, yes? I'm certain.  8)
That being the case, I gotta love everybody and I've got to pray for those who persecute me and who persecute my brother Rown and who persecute my brother Uriah and my brother JP and lilBB and so on.

Also, we have to be hearers of the Word and doers of the Word. The Word tells us to love, it tells us to pray, it tells us to fast, it tells us to be baptized, it tells us to seek the Kingdom and righteousness, it tells us to care for the children and the widows, it tells us to praise and worship and it tells us:
2 Timothy 3:16-17 NIV says: “All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

2 Timothy 4:2 NIV says: “Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage- with great patience and careful instruction.”

Titus 2:15 NIV says: “These, then, are the things you should teach.  Encourage and rebuke with all authority.  Do not let anyone despise you.”

Teaching, correcting, rebuking, training and encouraging. All right there. All so we'll be "thoroughly equipped for every good work". So we'll be prepared. So we will not be despised.

If someone didn't judge me years ago by telling me that the things that I was doing in my life could lead me to an eternal life separated from God, I may not be here right now. Since then I've been taught, corrected, rebuked, trained and encouraged over and over again and I welcome it in the future, too.
Paula White should feel the same way. I'm just being honest when I say that there's something in my spirit that doesn't jive with her. I wish that I could explain it better and I do pray about it.
And I am working on getting rid of my own plank...  ;D

Peace, my friend. I enjoy these conversations and I pray that we each grow from them.

And thank you for what I know you meant as a compliment. I just don't do the guitar god thing at all. You and I know that there's only one God.  ;)

Now, about this music from Japan...  :-X
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 09, 2008, 12:48:23 AM
you know dubose has a blue and a black guitar??  ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 09, 2008, 12:59:03 AM
It has been a very stressful week.The devil has been on my back.I am glad this did not get out of hand.You are the last person on this site,i would want to fall out with.You have really helped me out in so many ways.You are really,a blessing to this site.I really did not mean those evil things i said.But,man you know the book.I believe you know the the book,better than the guitar,and that is saying alot ;)
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: SanctifiedGuitar on July 09, 2008, 09:20:57 PM
It has been a very stressful week.The devil has been on my back.I am glad this did not get out of hand.You are the last person on this site,i would want to fall out with.You have really helped me out in so many ways.You are really,a blessing to this site.I really did not mean those evil things i said.But,man you know the book.I believe you know the the book,better than the guitar,and that is saying alot ;)

Rown, I pray God give you more grace, and remember you are truly blessed when you follow the Truth.

Proverbs 15:32 (NLT)
If you reject discipline, you only harm yourself;but if you listen to correction, you grow in understanding

Proverbs 19:25 (NLT)
If you punish a mocker, the simpleminded will learn a lesson;if you correct the wise, they will be all the wiser.

Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Rown on July 10, 2008, 12:47:55 AM
Rown, I pray God give you more grace, and remember you are truly blessed when you follow the Truth.

Proverbs 15:32 (NLT)
If you reject discipline, you only harm yourself;but if you listen to correction, you grow in understanding

Proverbs 19:25 (NLT)
If you punish a mocker, the simpleminded will learn a lesson;if you correct the wise, they will be all the wiser.


THANK YOU BROTHER
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: Gibby on July 10, 2008, 09:11:04 AM
cool, I posted a hot topic!!!!  (I'm hyper thanks to starbucks!!)
Title: Re: quick clip of dubose...
Post by: JayP5150 on July 10, 2008, 10:07:02 AM
cool, I posted a hot topic!!!!  (I'm hyper thanks to starbucks!!)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah... Starbuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks....

It's been a while for me.

Iced Venti quad vanilla latte with a shot of caramel...

Oh, sorry. Back to guitar...