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Gospel Instruments => General Music Hangout => Topic started by: T-Block on July 21, 2008, 03:58:44 PM

Title: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: T-Block on July 21, 2008, 03:58:44 PM
I'll start this thing off by giving some basic theory you all may know already.  If you have followed my posts here on LGM, u probably learned this stuff in the key of C.  Here it is in the next key, C#.  Please keep in mind that this key is 2 keys in 1.  It is the key of C# as well as the key of Db.  These keys are what we call enharmonic, same note on the keyboard, different on paper.  I'll start with the major scales:


Major Scales
                           
                        1     2    3    4    5     6    7
C# major scale:  C#   D#  E#  F#  G#  A#  B#
Db major scale:  Db    Eb   F   Gb  Ab   Bb   C


Scale Degree Chords

      C#                            Db

1 = C#-E#-G#            1 = Db-F-Ab
2 = D#-F#-A#            2 = Eb-Gb-Bb
3 = E#-G#-B#            3  = F-Ab-C
4 = F#-A#-C#            4 = Gb-Bb-Db
5 = G#-B#-D#            5 = Ab-C-Eb
6 = A#-C#-E#            6 = Bb-Db-F
7 = B#-D#-F#            7 = C-Eb-Gb


BASIC PROGRESSIONS

1-5-1

C# / C#-E#-G# (1)     C# / C#-E#-G# (1)     C# / E#-G#-C# (1)     C# / G#-C#-E# (1)
G# / G#-B#-D# (5)     G# / B#-D#-G# (5)     G# / D#-G#-B# (5)     G# / G#-B#-D# (5)
(repeat)                    (repeat)                    (repeat)                    (repeat)


Db / Db-F-Ab (1)     Db / Db-F-Ab (1)     Db / F-Ab-Db (1)     Db / Ab-Db-F (1)
Ab / Ab-C-Eb (5)     Ab / C-Eb-Ab (5)     Ab / Eb-Ab-C (5)     Ab / Ab-C-Eb (5)
(repeat)                 (repeat)                 (repeat)                (repeat)



1-V7-1 progression

C# / C#-E#-G# (1)           C# / C#-E#-G# (1)           C# / E#-G#-C# (1)
G# / G#-B#-D#-F# (5)      G# / B#-D#-F#-G# (5)      G# / D#-F#-G#-B# (5)
(repeat)                          (repeat)                          (repeat)

C# / G#-C#-E# (1)           C# / G#-C#-E# (1)
G# / F#-G#-B#-D# (5)      G# / G#-B#-D#-F# (5)
(repeat)                             (repeat)


Db / Db-F-Ab (1)           Db / Db-F-Ab (1)           Db / F-Ab-Db (1)
Ab / Ab-C-Eb-Gb (5)      Ab / C-Eb-Gb-Ab (5)      Ab / Eb-Gb-Ab-C (5)
(repeat)                      (repeat)                       (repeat)

Db / Ab-Db-F (1)           Db / Ab-Db-F (1)
Ab / Gb-Ab-C-Eb (5)      Ab / Ab-C-Eb-Gb (5)
(repeat)                      (repeat)



1-4-1 progression

C# / C#-E#-G# (1)    C# / C#-E#-G# (1)     C# / E#-G#-C# (1)     C# / G#-C#-E# (1)
F# / F#-A#-C# (4)    F# / C#-F#-A# (4)      F# / F#-A#-C# (4)     F# / A#-C#-F# (4)
(repeat)                   (repeat)                     (repeat)                   (repeat)


Db / Db-F-Ab (1)       Db / Db-F-Ab (1)       Db / F-Ab-Db (1)       Db / Ab-Db-F (1)
Gb / Gb-Bb-Db (4)     Gb / Db-Gb-Bb (4)      Gb / Gb-Bb-Db (4)     Gb / Bb-Db-Gb (4)
(repeat)                   (repeat)                   (repeat)                  (repeat)



1-4-5-1 progression

C# / C#-E#-G# (1)       C# / C#-E#-G# (1)        C# / E#-G#-C# (1)       C# / G#-C#-E# (1)
F# / F#-A#-C# (4)        F# / C#-F#-A# (4)        F# / F#-A#-C# (4)       F# / A#-C#-F# (4)
G# / G#-B#-D# (5)        G# / B#-D#-G# (5)        G# / D#-G#-B# (5)       G# / G#-B#-D# (5)
(repeat)                       (repeat)                       (repeat)                      (repeat)


Db / Db-F-Ab (1)        Db / Db-F-Ab (1)       Db / F-Ab-Db (1)        Db / Ab-Db-F (1)
Gb / Gb-Bb-Db (4)      Gb / Db-Gb-Bb (4)      Gb / Gb-Bb-Db (4)      Gb / Bb-Db-Gb (4)
Ab / Ab-C-Eb (5)        Ab / C-Eb-Ab (5)       Ab / Eb-Ab-C (5)        Ab / Ab-C-Eb (5)
(repeat)                    (repeat)                   (repeat)                    (repeat)



1-4-V7-1 progression

C# / C#-E#-G# (1)            C# / C#-E#-G# (1)             C# / E#-G#-C# (1)
F# / F#-A#-C# (4)             F# / C#-F#-A# (4)             F# / F#-A#-C# (4)
G# / G#-B#-D#-F# (5)        G# / B#-D#-F#-G# (5)        G# / D#-F#-G#-B# (5) 
(repeat)                            (repeat)                            (repeat)

C# / G#-C#-E# (1)            C# / G#-C#-E# (1)
F# / A#-C#-F# (4)             F# / A#-C#-F# (4)
G# / G#-B#-D#-F# (5)        G# / F#-G#-B#-D# (5)
(repeat)                            (repeat)


Db / Db-F-Ab (1)             Db / Db-F-Ab (1)            Db / F-Ab-Db (1)
Gb / Gb-Bb-Db (4)           Gb / Db-Gb-Bb (4)           Gb / Gb-Bb-Db (4)
Ab / Ab-C-Eb-Gb (5)        Ab / C-Eb-Gb-Ab (5)        Ab / Eb-Gb-Ab-C (5) 
(repeat)                         (repeat)                        (repeat)

Db / Ab-Db-F (1)              Db / Ab-Db-F (1)
Gb / Bb-Db-Gb (4)            Gb / Bb-Db-Gb (4)
Ab / Ab-C-Eb-Gb (5)         Ab / Gb-Ab-C-Eb (5)
(repeat)                          (repeat)



Dominant 7th chord to 4

C# / C#-E#-G#-B                C# / C#-E#-G#-B                C# / E#-G#-B-C# 
F# / F#-A#-C# (4 of C#)      F# / C#-F#-A# (4 of C#)      F# / F#-A#-C# (4 of C#)   
(repeat)                             (repeat)                             (repeat)

C# / G#-B-C#-E#                C# / B-C#-E#-G#
F# / A#-C#-F# (4 of C#)      F# / A#-C#-F# (4 of C#)
(repeat)                             (repeat)


Db / Db-F-Ab-Cb                  Db / Db-F-Ab-Cb                 Db / F-Ab-Cb-Db 
Gb / Gb-Bb-Db (4 of Db)        Gb / Db-Gb-Bb (4 of Db)       Gb / Gb-Bb-Db (4 of Db)   
(repeat)                             (repeat)                             (repeat)

Db / Ab-Cb-Db-F                  Db / Cb-Db-F-Ab
Gb / Bb-Db-Gb (4 of Db)        Gb / Bb-Db-Gb (4 of Db)
(repeat)                             (repeat)



7-3-6 progression

B# / B#-D#-F# (7)     B# / B#-D#-F# (7)      B# / B#-D#-F# (7)
E# / E#-G#-B# (3)     E# / G#-B#-E# (3)      E# / B#-E#-G# (3)
A# / A#-C#-E# (6)     A# / A#-C#-E# (6)     A# / C#-E#-A# (6)
(repeat)                    (repeat)                    (repeat)

B# / D#-F#-B# (7)     B# / F#-B#-#D (7)
E# / E#-G#-B# (3)     E# / G#-B#-E# (3)
A# / E#-A#-C# (6)     A# / A#-C#-E# (6)
(repeat)                    (repeat)


C / C-Eb-Gb (7)      C / C-Eb-Gb (7)      C / C-Eb-Gb (7)
F / F-Ab-C (3)        F / Ab-C-F (3)        F / C-F-Ab (3)
Bb / Bb-Db-F (6)     Bb / Bb-Db-F (6)     Bb / Db-F-Bb (6)
(repeat)                (repeat)                 (repeat)

C / Eb-Gb-C (7)      C / Gb-C-Eb (7)
F / F-Ab-C (3)        F / Ab-C-F (3)
Bb / F-Bb-Db (6)     Bb / Bb-Db-F (6)
(repeat)                (repeat)



2-5-1 progression

D# / D#-F#-A# (2)     D# / A#-D#-F# (2)      D# / D#-F#-A# (2)      D# / F#-A#-D# (2)
G# / G#-B#-D# (5)     G# / B#-D#-G# (5)      G# / D#-G#-B# (5)      G# / G#-B#-D# (5)
C# / C#-E#-G# (1)     C# / C#-E#-G# (1)      C# / E#-G#-C# (1)      C# / G#-C#-E# (1)
(repeat)                    (repeat)                     (repeat)                     (repeat)


Eb / Eb-Gb-Bb (2)      Eb / Bb-Eb-Gb (2)      Eb / Eb-Gb-Bb (2)      Eb / Gb-Bb-Eb (2)
Ab / Ab-C-Eb (5)       Ab / C-Eb-Ab (5)        Ab / Eb-Ab-C (5)       Ab / Ab-C-Eb (5)
Db / Db-F-Ab (1)       Db / Db-F-Ab (1)        Db / F-Ab-Db (1)       Db / Ab-Db-F (1)
(repeat)                   (repeat)                    (repeat)                  (repeat)



3-6-2-5-1 progression

E# / E#-G#-B# (3)       E# / G#-B#-E# (3)      E# / B#-E#-G# (3)       E# / E#-G#-B# (3)
A# / A#-C#-E# (6)      A# / A#-C#-E# (6)      A# / C#-E#-A# (6)       A# / E#-A#-C# (6)
D# / D#-F#-A# (2)      D# / A#-D#-F# (2)      D# / D#-F#-A# (2)       D# / F#-A#-D# (2)
G# / G#-B#-D# (5)      G# / B#-D#-G# (5)      G# / D#-G#-B# (5)       G# / G#-B#-D# (5)
C# / C#-E#-G# (1)      C# / C#-E#-G# (1)      C# / E#-G#-C# (1)       C# / G#-C#-E# (1)
(repeat)                     (repeat)                     (repeat)                      (repeat)


F / F-Ab-C (3)           F / Ab-C-F (3)          F / C-F-Ab (3)           F / F-Ab-C (3)
Bb / Bb-Db-F (6)        Bb / Bb-Db-F (6)       Bb / Db-F-Bb (6)        Bb / F-Bb-Db (6)
Eb / Eb-Gb-Bb (2)      Eb / Bb-Eb-Gb (2)      Eb / Eb-Gb-Bb (2)      Eb / Gb-Bb-Eb (2)
Ab / Ab-C-Eb (5)       Ab / C-Eb-Ab (5)       Ab / Eb-Ab-C (5)        Ab / Ab-C-Eb (5)
Db / Db-F-Ab (1)       Db / Db-F-Ab (1)       Db / F-Ab-Db (1)        Db / Ab-Db-F (1)
(repeat)                   (repeat)                   (repeat)                   (repeat)



7-3-6-2-5-1 progression

B# / B#-D#-F# (7)       B# / B#-D#-F# (7)       B# / B#-D#-F# (7)
E# / E#-G#-B# (3)       E# / G#-B#-E# (3)       E# / B#-E#-G# (3)
A# / A#-C#-E# (6)      A# / A#-C#-E# (6)       A# / C#-E#-A# (6)
D# / D#-F#-A# (2)      D# / A#-D#-F# (2)       D# / D#-F#-A# (2)
G# / G#-B#-D# (5)      G# / B#-D#-G# (5)       G# / D#-G#-B# (5)
C# / C#-E#-G# (1)      C# / C#-E#-G# (1)       C# / E#-G#-C# (1)
(repeat)                     (repeat)                      (repeat)

B# / D#-F#-B# (7)       B# / F#-B#-D# (7)
E# / E#-G#-B# (3)       E# / G#-B#-E# (3)
A# / E#-A#-C# (6)      A# / A#-C#-E# (6)
D# / F#-A#-D# (2)      D# / A#-D#-F# (2)
G# / G#-B#-D# (5)      G# / B#-D#-G# (5)
C# / G#-C#-E# (1)      C# / C#-E#-G# (1)
(repeat)                     (repeat)


C / C-Eb-Gb (7)       C / C-Eb-Gb (7)        C / C-Eb-Gb (7)
F / F-Ab-C (3)         F / Ab-C-F (3)          F / C-F-Ab (3)
Bb / Bb-Db-F (6)      Bb / Bb-Db-F (6)       Bb / Db-F-Db (6)
Eb / Eb-Gb-Bb (2)     Eb / Bb-Eb-Gb (2)     Eb / Eb-Gb-Bb (2)
Ab / Ab-C-Eb (5)      Ab / C-Eb-Ab (5)      Ab / Eb-Ab-C (5)
Db / Db-F-Ab (1)      Db / Db-F-Ab (1)      Db / F-Ab-Db (1)
(repeat)                  (repeat)                  (repeat)

C / Eb-Gb-C (7)        C / Gb-C-Eb (7)
F / F-Ab-C (3)          F / Ab-C-F (3)
Bb / F-Bb-Db (6)       Bb / Bb-Db-F (6)
Eb / Gb-Bb-Eb (2)     Eb / Bb-Eb-Gb (2)
Ab / Ab-C-Eb (5)      Ab / C-Eb-Ab (5)
Db / Ab-Db-F (1)      Db / Db-F-Ab (1)
(repeat)                  (repeat)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: rayjohnson83 on July 21, 2008, 04:02:28 PM
 :o :o :o :o
This is some great info man. Im printing this now ;D
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: chevonee on July 21, 2008, 06:13:32 PM
Yes Suh this is some excellent info T-block :o :o :o :o :o :o
I'm printing this out rat nah (int) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: T-Block on July 22, 2008, 07:52:06 AM
MORE ADVANCED PROGRESSIONS
Key C#

7-3-6 progression

B# / A#-D#-F# (7)        B# / A#-D#-F# (7)          B# / F#-A#-D# (7)         
E# / A-C#-D#-G# (3)     E# / A-B#-D#-F# (3)       E# / F#-A-B#-D# (3)
A# / G#-C#-E# (6)        A# / G#-C#-E# (6)          A# / E#-A#-C# (6)
(repeat)                       (repeat)                         (repeat)

B# / G-A#-D-E# (7)
E# / A-C#-D#-G# (3)
A# / G#-C#-E# (6)
(repeat)


2-5-1 progression

D# / G-A#-C#-E# (2)         D# / A-C#-D#-F# (2)          D# / G-A#-C#-E (2)
G# / F#-G#-C#-D# (5)       G# / G#-C#-E# (5)             G# / F#-A#-B#-E (5)
G# / F#-G#-B#-D# (5)       G# / F#-G#-C#-D# (5)                   OR
C# / E#-G#-C# (1)            G# / F#-G#-B#-D# (5)         G# / F#-G#-B#-E (5)
(repeat)                           C# / E#-G#-C# (1)              C# / B-E#-A#-C# (1)
                                      (repeat)                                        OR
                                                                              C# / B-E#-G#-C# (1)
                                                                              (repeat)

D# / B#-E#-A  or  D#-C# / B#-E#-A (2)
G# / C#-F#-A# (5)
C# / C#-E#-G# (1)
(repeat)


2-3-4-5-1 progression

D# / A-C#-D#-F# (2)
E# / G#-C#-E# (3)
F# / A-C#-D#-F# (4)
G# / G#-C#-E# (5)
G# / F#-G#-C#-D# (5)
G# / F#-G#-B#-D# (5)
C# / E#-G#-C# (1)
(repeat)


7-3-6-2-5-1 progression

B# / A#-D#-F# (7)         
E# / A-C#-D#-G# (3)   
A# / G#-C#-E# (6)       
D# / A-C#-D#-F# (2)
G# / G#-C#-E# (5)                 
G# / F#-G#-C#-D# (5)                       
G# / F#-G#-B#-D# (5)           
C# / E#-G#-C# (1)             
(repeat)


7-3-6-2-3-4-5-1 progression

B# / A#-D#-F# (7)         
E# / A-C#-D#-G# (3)   
A# / G#-C#-E# (6)       
D# / A-C#-D#-F# (2)
E# / G#-C#-E# (3)
F# / A-C#-D#-F# (4)
G# / G#-C#-E# (5)
G# / F#-G#-C#-D# (5)
G# / F#-G#-B#-D# (5)
C# / E#-G#-C# (1)
(repeat)


6-2-5-1 progression

A# / G#-C#-E# (6)      A# / G#-C#-E# (6)          A# / G#-C#-E# (6)         
D# / G-C#-E# (2)        D# / G-A#-C#-E# (2)       D# / G-B#-E (2)
G# / F#-B-D# (5)        G# / F#-B-D# (5)             G# / F#-B-D# (5)
C# / E#-B-D# (1)        C# / E#-G#-B-D# (1)        C# / E#-A#-D (1)
(repeat)                     (repeat)                          (repeat)                 

A# / G#-B#-C#-E# (6)      A# / G#-B#-C#-E# (6)           
D# / G-B#-C#-E# (2)        D# / G-A#-C#-E# (2)     
G# / F#-A#-B-D# (5)        G# / F#-A#-B-D# (5)         
C# / E#-A#-B-D# (1)        C# / E#-G#-B-D# (1)     
(repeat)                          (repeat)


6-b6-5-1 progression

A# / G#-C#-E# (6)       A# / G#-C#-E# (6)       A# / G#-B#-C#-E# (6)
A / G-B#-E (b6)            A / G-B#-E (b6)            A / G-B-C-E (b6)
G# / F#-B-D# (5)          G# / F#-B-D# (5)         G# / F#-B-D# (5)
C# / E#-B-D# (1)          C# / E#-A#-D (1)         C# / E#-B-D# (1)
(repeat)                       (repeat)                      (repeat)


6-2-5-1-4 progression

A# / G#-C#-E# (6)           
D# / G-C#-E# (2)     
G# / B-D#-F#-A# (5)     
C# / B-D#-E#-G# (1)  or  C# / B-D#-G-A#
F# / A#-C#-E#-G# (4)
(repeat)


2-1-b7-b6-5 progression

D# / C#-F#-A# (2)             
C# / D#-G#-B# (1)               
B / E-A-C# (b7)       
A / F#-B-D# (b6)       
G# / G#-C#-E# (5)             
(repeat)                     

D# / F#-A#-C# (2)               
C# / G#-B#-D# (1)               
B / A-C#-E (b7)       
A / B-D#-F# (b6)         
G# / C#-E#-G# (5)               
(repeat)                         

D# / A#-C#-F# (2)
C# / B#-D#-G# (1)
B / C#-E-A (b7)
A / D#-F#-B (b6)
G# / E#-G#-C# (5)
(repeat)


4-3-2-3-4-6-2-3 progression

F# / E#-A#-C# (4)       
E# / D#-G#-B# (3)     
D# / C#-F#-A# (2)     
E# / D#-G#-B# (3)     
F# / E#-A#-C# (4)     
A# / D#-G#-B# (6)     
D# / C#-F#-A# (2)     
E# / D#-G#-B# (3)     
(repeat)               

F# / A#-C#-E# (4)     
E# / G#-B#-D# (3)     
D# / F#-A#-C# (2)     
E# / G#-B#-D# (3)     
F# / F#-A#-C# (4)     
A# / G#-B#-D# (6)     
D# / F#-A#-C# (2)     
E# / G#-B#-D# (3)     
(repeat)               

F# / C#-E#-A# (4)
E# / B#-D#-G# (3)
D# / A#-C#-F# (2)
E# / B#-D#-G# (3)
F# / C#-E#-A# (4)
A# / B#-D#-G# (6)
D# / A#-C#-F# (2)
E# / B#-D#-G# (3)
(repeat)         


3-4-5-6 progression

E# / C#add9 (3)     
F# / F#add9 (4)     
G# / C#add9 (5)   
A# / F#add9 (6)     
(repeat)             

E# / D#-E#-G#-C# (3)
F# / C#-F#-G#-A# (4)
G# / C#-D#-E#-G# (5)
A# / G#-A#-C#-F# (6)
(repeat)


4-4-3-6-5 progression

F# / A#-C#-E# (4)
F# / G#-B#-D# (4)
E# / G#-B#-D# (3)
A# / G#-B#-D# (6)
G# / E#-A#-D (5)
(repeat)


6-3-4-5-b6 progression

A# / E#-A#-C# (6)
E# / D#-G#-B# (3)
F# / E#-A#-C# (4)
G# / D#-G#-B#  or  G# / F#-A#-C# (5)
A / D#-F#-A-B# (b6)
(repeat)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: T-Block on July 22, 2008, 07:54:41 AM
MORE ADVANCED PROGRESSIONS
Key Db

7-3-6 progression

C / Bb-Eb-Gb (7)         C / Bb-Eb-Gb (7)        C / Gb-Bb-Eb (7)         
F / A-Db-Eb-Ab (3)      F / A-C-Eb-Gb (3)       F / Gb-A-C-Eb (3)
Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)         Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)         Bb / F-Bb-Db (6)
(repeat)                     (repeat)                    (repeat)

C / G-Bb-D-F (7)
F / A-Db-Eb-Ab (3)
Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)
(repeat)


2-5-1 progression

Eb / G-Bb-Db-F (2)           Eb / A-Db-Eb-Gb (2)           Eb / G-Bb-Db-Fb (2)
Ab / Gb-Ab-Db-Eb (5)       Ab / Ab-Db-F (5)                Ab / Gb-Bb-C-Fb (5)
Ab / Gb-Ab-C-Eb (5)         Ab / Gb-Ab-Db-Eb (5)                    OR
Db / F-Ab-Db (1)              Ab / Gb-Ab-C-Eb (5)           Ab / Gb-Ab-C-Fb (5)
(repeat)                          Db / F-Ab-Db (1)                Db / Cb-F-Bb-Db (1)
                                     (repeat)                                      OR
                                                                            Db / Cb-F-Ab-Db (1)
                                                                            (repeat)

Eb / C-F-A  or  Eb-Db / C-F-A (2)
Ab / Db-Gb-Bb (5)
Db / Db-F-Ab (1)
(repeat)


2-3-4-5-1 progression

Eb / A-Db-Eb-Gb (2)
F / Ab-Db-F (3)
Gb / A-Db-Eb-Gb (4)
Ab / Ab-Db-F (5)
Ab / Gb-Ab-Db-Eb (5)
Ab / Gb-Ab-C-Eb (5)
Db / F-Ab-Db (1)
(repeat)


7-3-6-2-5-1 progression

C / Bb-Eb-Gb (7)         
F / A-Db-Eb-Ab (3)   
Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)       
Eb / A-Db-Eb-Gb (2)
Ab / Ab-Db-F (5)                 
Ab / Gb-Ab-Db-Eb (5)                       
Ab / Gb-Ab-C-Eb (5)           
Db / F-Ab-Db (1)             
(repeat)


7-3-6-2-3-4-5-1 progression

C / Bb-Eb-Gb (7)         
F / A-Db-Eb-Ab (3)   
Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)       
Eb / A-Db-Eb-Gb (2)
F / Ab-Db-F (3)
Gb / A-Db-Eb-Gb (4)
Ab / Ab-Db-F (5)
Ab / Gb-Ab-Db-Eb (5)
Ab / Gb-Ab-C-Eb (5)
Db / F-Ab-Db (1)
(repeat)


6-2-5-1 progression

Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)        Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)            Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)         
Eb / G-Db-F (2)          Eb / G-Bb-Db-F (2)         Eb / G-C-E (2)
Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb (5)       Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb (5)          Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb (5)
Db / F-Cb-Eb (1)         Db / F-Ab-Cb-Eb (1)       Db / F-Bb-D (1)
(repeat)                     (repeat)                       (repeat)                 

Bb / Ab-C-Db-F (6)         Bb / Ab-C-Db-F (6)           
Eb / G-C-Db-F (2)           Eb / G-Bb-Db-F (2)     
Ab / Gb-Bb-Cb-Eb (5)      Ab / Gb-Bb-Cb-Eb (5)         
Db / F-Bb-Cb-Eb (1)        Db / F-Ab-Cb-Eb (1)     
(repeat)                        (repeat)


6-#5-5-1 progression

Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)         Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)        Bb / Ab-C-Db-F (6)
A / G-C-E (#5)            A / G-C-E (#5)          A / G-B-C-E (#5)
Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb (5)       Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb (5)      Ab / Gb-Cb-Eb (5)
Db / F-Cb-Db (1)         Db / F-Bb-D (1)         Db / F-Cb-Eb (1)
(repeat)                     (repeat)                   (repeat)


6-2-5-1-4 progression

Bb / Ab-Db-F (6)           
Eb / G-Db-F (2)     
Ab / Cb-Eb-Gb-Bb (5)     
Db / Cb-Eb-F-Ab (1)  or  Db / Cb-Eb-G-Bb
Gb / Bb-Db-F-Ab (4)
(repeat)


2-1-b7-#5-5 progression

Eb / Db-Gb-Bb (2)             
Db / Eb-Ab-C (1)               
Cb / Fb-A-Db (b7)       
A / Gb-Cb-Eb (#5)       
Ab / Ab-Db-F (5)             
(repeat)                     

Eb / Gb-Bb-Db (2)               
Db / Ab-C-Eb (1)               
Cb / A-Db-Fb (b7)       
A / Cb-Eb-Gb (#5)         
Ab / Db-F-Ab (5)               
(repeat)                         

Eb / Bb-Db-Gb (2)
Db / C-Eb-Ab (1)
Cb / Db-Fb-A (b7)
A / Eb-Gb-Cb (#5)
Ab / F-Ab-Db (5)
(repeat)


4-3-2-3-4-6-2-3 progression

Gb / F-Bb-Db (4)       
F / Eb-Ab-C (3)     
Eb / Db-Gb-Bb (2)     
F / Eb-Ab-C (3)     
Gb / F-Bb-Db (4)     
Bb / Eb-Ab-C (6)     
Eb / Db-Gb-Bb (2)     
F / Eb-Ab-C (3)     
(repeat)               

Gb / Bb-Db-F (4)       
F / Ab-C--Eb (3)     
Eb / Gb-Bb-Db (2)     
F / Ab-C-Eb (3)     
Gb / Bb-Db-F (4)     
Bb / Ab-C-Eb (6)     
Eb / Gb-Bb-Db (2)     
F / Ab-C-Eb (3)     
(repeat)               

Gb / Db-F-Bb (4)       
F / C-Eb-Ab (3)     
Eb / Bb-Db-Gb (2)     
F / C-Eb-Ab (3)     
Gb / Db-F-Bb (4)     
Bb / C-Eb-Ab (6)     
Eb / Bb-Db-Gb (2)     
F / C-Eb-Ab (3)     
(repeat)               


3-4-5-6 progression

F / Dbadd9 (3)     
Gb / Gbadd9 (4)     
Ab / Dbadd9 (5)   
Bb / Gbadd9 (6)     
(repeat)             

F / Eb-F-Ab-Db (3)
Gb / Db-Gb-Ab-Bb (4)
Ab / Db-Eb-F-Ab (5)
Bb / Ab-Bb-Db-Gb (6)
(repeat)


4-4-3-6-5 progression

Gb / Bb-Db-F (4)
Gb / Ab-C-Eb (4)
F / Ab-C-Eb (3)
Bb / Ab-C-Eb (6)
Ab / F-Bb-D (5)
(repeat)


6-3-4-5-#5 progression

Bb / F-Bb-Db (6)
F / Eb-Ab-C (3)
Gb / F-Bb-Db (4)
Ab / Eb-Ab-C  or  Ab / Gb-Bb-Db (5)
A / Eb-Gb-A-Cb (#5)
(repeat)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: musallio on July 23, 2008, 05:51:45 PM
Wow!! :o :o

Just shout if you need help mate--U've taken all the work from us, but I'm sure Vonne will be willing to transpose all this to Eb/D# ,Bb/ A# & Ab/ G#.

I think I know some1 who will do it in E/ Fb, B/ Cb & A. ;D
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: divinemusician on July 23, 2008, 07:31:21 PM
NOW WE TALKIN... BRO YOU KNOW THIS MY KEY... THANKS A BUNCH....

T-BLOCK GETS THE BEST TEACHER AWARD


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Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: pressingon3 on July 23, 2008, 10:22:43 PM
NOW WE TALKIN... BRO YOU KNOW THIS MY KEY... THANKS A BUNCH....

T-BLOCK GETS THE BEST TEACHER AWARD
COSIGN. That's r write T-block. The LGM family really appreciates ALLl of your efforts and concern for enhancing others music ministry

God Bless you doc!
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: seemunny on July 24, 2008, 12:36:46 AM
T-block, you sho know how to write a lot of chords for just a little guy! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/41.gif)

Man, you liable to be a Professor in college by the time you turn 8!

8)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: T-Block on July 24, 2008, 11:39:07 AM
The thread is open to anyone else who wants to contribute.  Just label what ur posting and make sure it's in the key of C#/Db. It can be anything u want, even tips for playing in this particular key is welcomed!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on July 24, 2008, 09:49:11 PM
Hey T-Block I am going to help just give me a few days to try to collect information to give to the people.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: selwyn on July 25, 2008, 08:35:24 AM
 ;D :) ;D GOD BLESS U T-BLOCK. YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING "GIVE A MAN A FISH, HE WILL LIVE FOR A DAY, BUT TEACH HIM TO FISH, THANKS MAN. FOR AN UP AND COMING LIKE ME THIS IS MANNA.
GOD BLESS
SELWYN 
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: T-Block on July 25, 2008, 08:49:25 AM
Some tips for playing in this key:

1. Utilize your 4th finger on your RH.  As a rule of "thumb", anytime I play a chord that ends with a black note, I use my 4th finger to play that last note.  Anytime I play a chord that ends with a white note, I use my pinky to play that last note.  Trust me, putting that 4th finger into play will greatly improve the smoothness and speed of your chords.

2. The white notes.  95% of the time, the white notes in this key will be played by your thumb and pinky.

3. Scales & runs.  Anytime u play a scale or run in this key, if there are any black notes contained (which there most likely will be), u will NOT use your thumb or pinky to play those black notes.  Trust me, those fingers will only get in the way, just save them for the white notes u encounter.  In fact, u probably not gonna use your pinky at all for scales or runs.


That's all I can really think of now.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on July 27, 2008, 07:22:30 PM
here is a few chords in the key of Db you can play to use for your chord vocabulary

Key of Db

These are Chords you can play if the bass note is a 1 which is Db

DbAb/CEbFAb
DbAb/CFBb
DbAb/BbEbAb
DbAb/ADbEbAb
DbAbEb/DbFAbDb

These are Chords you can play if the bass note is a 2 which is Eb

EbBbF/GbBbDbF
EbBb/FGbBbDb
EbBb/DbFGbBb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 3 which is F

FCG/AbCEbAb
FC/EbGAbC
FA/EbAbDb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 4 which is Gb

GbDbAb/BbEbFAb
GbDb/FAbBbDb
GbDbGb/FBbDbF
GbDbGb/BbFBb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 5 which is Ab

AbEbBb/CFGbBb
AbEb/FGbBbDb
AbEbBb/GbBbDbAb
AbEbAb/BEbGbBb
AbEbAb/BbBEbGb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 6 which is Bb

BbFC/DbFAbC
BbFBb/AbCDbF
BbFC/AbDbFAb
BbF/AbDbGb
BbFBb/EbAbCEb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 7 which is C

CFC/AbCEbAb
CG/BbEbAb
CE/BbEbAb

these are the chords which is part of the theory of Jamal. Hope this helps
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on July 27, 2008, 07:36:30 PM
These are the additional part of the theory which is a part of Jamal

These are the chords you can play if the bass note is either #1 or b2 which is D

DAbBb/DFAbB
DAbBb/DGbAbDb
DGb/CFBb

These are the chords you can play if the bass note is either #2 or b3 which is E

EBb/EGbbDb
E/CEAb
EAb/DGC

These are the chords you can play if the bass note is either #4 or b5 which is G

GDB/FBbEb
GB/FBbEb
GB/FAbBbDb

These are the chords you can play if the bass note is either #5 or b6 which is A

AEb/ACEbGb
ADb/GCF

These are the chords you can play if the bass note is either #6 or b7 which is B

BGb/BbDbEbGb
BGb/AbDbGb
BGbDb/EbAbCDb

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on July 27, 2008, 07:42:07 PM
here is a few progression you can put in your vocabulary tool box

BbE/BbEbGb
AEb/AbDbF
AbCDbF/AbCEb

Progression 2
AbCDbF/AbCEb
GDb/GbBEb
GbBbBEb/GbBbDb

Progression 3

Bb/AbCDbF
G/FBbBEb
C/BbDEbG
F/ADbEbAb
B/AbCDbEb

progression 4

BbF/AbCDbF
EbG/DbEA

hope this helps
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: chevonee on July 27, 2008, 09:32:20 PM
here is a few chords in the key of Db you can play to use for your chord vocabulary

Key of Db

These are Chords you can play if the bass note is a 1 which is Db

DbAb/CEbFAb
DbAb/CFBb
DbAb/BbEbAb
DbAb/ADbEbAb
DbAbEb/DbFAbDb

These are Chords you can play if the bass note is a 2 which is Eb

EbBbF/GbBbDbF
EbBb/FGbBbDb
EbBb/DbFGbBb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 3 which is F

FCG/AbCEbAb
FC/EbGAbC
FA/EbAbDb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 4 which is Gb

GbDbAb/BbEbFAb
GbDb/FAbBbDb
GbDbGb/FBbDbF
GbDbGb/BbFBb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 5 which is Ab

AbEbBb/CFGbBb
AbEb/FGbBbDb
AbEbBb/GbBbDbAb
AbEbAb/BEbGbBb
AbEbAb/BbBEbGb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 6 which is Bb

BbFC/DbFAbC
BbFBb/AbCDbF
BbFC/AbDbFAb
BbF/AbDbGb
BbFBb/EbAbCEb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 7 which is C

CFC/AbCEbAb
CG/BbEbAb
CE/BbEbAb

these are the chords which is part of the theory of Jamal. Hope this helps
These are the additional part of the theory which is a part of Jamal

These are the chords you can play if the bass note is either #1 or b2 which is D

DAbBb/DFAbB
DAbBb/DGbAbDb
DGb/CFBb

These are the chords you can play if the bass note is either #2 or b3 which is E

EBb/EGbbDb
E/CEAb
EAb/DGC

These are the chords you can play if the bass note is either #4 or b5 which is G

GDB/FBbEb
GB/FBbEb
GB/FAbBbDb

These are the chords you can play if the bass note is either #5 or b6 which is A

AEb/ACEbGb
ADb/GCF

These are the chords you can play if the bass note is either #6 or b7 which is B

BGb/BbDbEbGb
BGb/AbDbGb
BGbDb/EbAbCDb

Hope this helps
here is a few progression you can put in your vocabulary tool box

BbE/BbEbGb
AEb/AbDbF
AbCDbF/AbCEb

Progression 2
AbCDbF/AbCEb
GDb/GbBEb
GbBbBEb/GbBbDb

Progression 3

Bb/AbCDbF
G/FBbBEb
C/BbDEbG
F/ADbEbAb
B/AbCDbEb

progression 4

BbF/AbCDbF
EbG/DbEA

hope this helps
Thank you so much for sharing this JJJoe!!! I'll look over these chords just to make sure that I don't post the same thing that you've already posted. Remain blessed my friend! ;)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on July 27, 2008, 09:51:46 PM
thank you for your compliment it allow me to know that someone really like the post.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on July 27, 2008, 10:10:44 PM
I am going to give a secret to effectively play songs with a different twist and the secret is inversions. Inversion is changing the order of chord arrangement. Now some might be thinking well why should I learn inversion? Inversion gives different avenues in playing- going a different way in either a verus in a song, end of a song, or even in the beginning in a song lets say you are playing a 2-5-1 in the key of Db which is Eb- Ab-Db

Ebminor7
Absus7
Dbmajor7

which is

EbBb/GbBbDb
AbEb/DbEbGb
DbAb/FAbC

now you can invert the order of the chord either this way

BbEb/BbDbGb
EbAb/EbGbDb
AbDb/AbCF

or

EbBb/DbGbBb
AbEb/GbDbEb
DbAb/CFAb

or you can just change just one or two of the order

EbBb/DbGbBb
EbAb/DbEbGb
DbAb/CFAb

the concept of a musician is to make it easier on you and to be different from other musicians. hope this helps.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on July 28, 2008, 02:07:48 AM
These seem to be nice. Have u thought about adding a run to the worship part
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on July 28, 2008, 02:20:50 AM
for example for going to the Bb i would run the Bb blues scale. Use a transistion period with the part in Bb in the beginning i would run the Bb blues scale but start on the f. This seem heavy stuff u got here. The heavier the info the harder to carry. Hope this help.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: musallio on July 28, 2008, 03:39:06 PM
Wow, this is some hot thread now..thanks a zillion Jjjoe & Vonne..I can't wait to try this out :o 8)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: zkay on July 28, 2008, 06:57:07 PM
T-Block,
you go, cause you are down right one of the best in music and, I appreciate you in all that you share with us in this forum.

God Bless
Zkay
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: chevonee on July 28, 2008, 08:41:17 PM
for example for going to the Bb i would run the Bb blues scale. Use a transistion period with the part in Bb in the beginning i would run the Bb blues scale but start on the f. This seem heavy stuff u got here. The heavier the info the harder to carry. Hope this help.
I add things to but I didn't want to make it harder than it already is :-\. I'm afraid that I over posted, this is supposed to be for beginners. I'll try to come back later on and make this easier for everyone to understand and transpose to any key.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on July 28, 2008, 11:00:20 PM
I add things to but I didn't want to make it harder than it already is :-\. I'm afraid that I over posted, this is supposed to be for beginners. I'll try to come back later on and make this easier for everyone to understand and transpose to any key.

Well it really good at what you post sometimes people need harder chords to get to the next level but I think this post is for more than the beginners, it is for anybody who need more theory or variety in their playing. You did a great job don't feel bad just try to add more because if you empty out your vessel god can do the overflow so just post what you got and don't worry about the rest.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on July 28, 2008, 11:07:45 PM
Hello these are more progression you can do in Db it is a 4-6-2 progression it is a popular movement in gospel music

Gb/ACEbGb
BbF/AbBDF
Eb/GbBDbF

more advance version in Db

Gb/AbBbDbFAb
Bb/AbBbDbFAb
Eb/GbBbDbF

hope this helps
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: musallio on July 29, 2008, 02:29:08 AM
Hello these are more progression you can do in Db it is a 4-6-2 progression it is a popular movement in gospel music

Gb/ACEbGb
BbF/AbBDF
Eb/GbBDbF

more advance version in Db

Gb/AbBbDbFAb
Bb/AbBbDbFAb
Eb/GbBbDbF

hope this helps

Very sweet stuff Jjjoe..
This is 1 of my best progressions (especially in fast songs) since it was the 1st popular progression I learnt..It also allowed me to play a number of songs in virtually not  time. 8)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: Fenix on July 29, 2008, 03:04:28 PM
WOW!!!  :o :o :o :o

This thread is pure gold, pure gold. We should pay for this info.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: musallio on July 30, 2008, 07:03:20 PM
WOW!!!  :o :o :o :o

This thread is pure gold, pure gold. We should pay for this info.

Yep--:

T, Jo & Von, please furnish us with your banking details so we can pay royalties each time we use these.

Fenbox:
Should we be paying for the "corny" jokes on your footer as well? :D :D
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: Fenix on July 31, 2008, 08:16:55 AM
Yep--:

T, Jo & Von, please furnish us with your banking details so we can pay royalties each time we use these.

Fenbox:
Should we be paying for the "corny" jokes on your footer as well? :D :D

 :D :D :D :D

I do stand-up.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: csedwards2 on August 02, 2008, 11:28:48 PM
WOW!!!  :o :o :o :o

This thread is pure gold, pure gold. We should pay for this info.
those of us with green stars did ;)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: musallio on August 03, 2008, 06:36:27 PM
those of us with green stars did ;)

Me playing the devil's advocate:
Would U really say what U paid covers the gems U have found here ;)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: T-Block on August 06, 2008, 12:26:48 AM
Here's some stuff that can help with Congregational Songs and shouting music:

Alternate minor 1 and minor 2 chords
Key C#

B-E-G# or C#-E-G# (start high on keyboard, go all the way down, go all the way back up)
A#-D#-F#
G#-C#-E
F#-A#-D#
E-G#-C#
D#-F#-A#
(repeat)


Key Db 

Cb-Fb-Ab or Db-Fb-Ab (start high on keyboard, go all the way down, go all the way back up)
Bb-Eb-Gb
Ab-Db-Fb
Gb-Bb-Eb
Fb-Ab-Db
Eb-Gb-Bb
(repeat)


Alternate major 1 and minor 2 chords
Key C#

C#-E#-G# (start high on keyboard, go all the way down, go all the way back up)
A#-D#-F#
G#-C#-E#
F#-A#-D#
E#-G#-C#
D#-F#-A#
(repeat)


Key Db 

Db-F-Ab (start high on keyboard, go all the way down, go all the way back up)
Bb-Eb-Gb
Ab-Db-F
Gb-Bb-Eb
F-Ab-Db
Eb-Gb-Bb
(repeat)


Various Bass Lines
Key C#

C#, E#, F#, G, G#, A#, B, B#, C#
C#, D#, E, E#, F#, A#, B, B#, C#
C#, E#, G#, A#, B, A#, G#, E#, C#
C#, E#, G#, G, F#, A#, B, B#, C#
C#, B, G#, G, F#, A#, B, B#, C#
C#, A#, G#, G, F#, A#, B, B#, C#
C#, D#, E, G#, F#, A#, B, B#, C#
C#, D#, E, E#, F#, E, D#, D, C#
C#, D#, E, E#, F#, E#, F#, G, G#, B, C#, E, F#, A#, B, B#, C#
G#, A, A#, E, D#, A#, G#, G#, C#
G#, G, G#, A, A#, A, A#, F#, G, A#, C#, E, D#, C#, A#, C#
C#, B, A#, E, D#, A#, G#, A#, B, B#, C#


Key Db

Db, F, Gb, G, Ab, Bb, Cb, C, Db
Db, Eb, Fb, F, Gb, Bb, Cb, C, Db
Db, F, Ab, Bb, Cb, Bb, Ab, F, Db
Db, F, Ab, G, Gb, Bb, Cb, C, Db
Db, Cb, Ab, G, Gb, Bb, Cb, C, Db
Db, Bb, Ab, G, Gb, Bb, Cb, C, Db
Db, Eb, Fb, Ab, Gb, Bb, Cb, C, Db
Db, Eb, Fb, F, Gb, Fb, Eb, D, Db
Db, Eb, Fb, F, Gb, F, Gb, G, Ab, Cb, Db, Fb, Gb, Bb, Cb, C, Db
Ab, A, Bb, Fb, Eb, Bb, Ab, Ab, Db
Ab, G, Ab, A, Bb, A, Ab, Gb, G, Bb, Db, Fb, Eb, Db, Bb, Db
Db, Cb, Bb, Fb, Eb, Bb, Ab, Bb, Cb, C, Db
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: musallio on August 06, 2008, 03:33:20 AM
Thanks T..
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: berbie on August 06, 2008, 11:32:01 AM
I saw your last posting under posting, Musallio. Looks good. I have it in my file.  Thanks,

berbie   
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: musallio on August 06, 2008, 04:17:05 PM
I saw your last posting under posting, Musallio. Looks good. I have it in my file.  Thanks,

berbie   

Thanks Berbie..
There is so much I want to post, but my school workload is just tantamount , gets worse as exams approach >:( :'(
I'l proly post something decent after October 3.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: Fenix on August 07, 2008, 09:39:59 AM
Hey T, for your last post, what is the timing for those bass-lines? What is the timing for the chords?
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: berbie on August 07, 2008, 11:55:45 AM
Fenix, if you don't mind, I will tell you how I use those bass runs.  I play them according to the beat of the song. Just a 4/4 or whatever at the beat being used.  With my rignt hand, I will play the song.  Most of the time, the right hand is doing something totally different but at the same bpm.  If the song calls for it, I will change the run to fit, then go right back to the beat. 

I totally internalize the run so that it is on automatic.  Then I can freely use my right hand.  You can change the run(order of notes)without affecting the beat, then go back to the original notes. It would be like you were playing a bass guitar on a walking beat.

 I don't know about the major/minor chords except that they sound good.  I would like info on their use.

berbie
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: musallio on August 07, 2008, 01:46:50 PM
Fenix, if you don't mind, I will tell you how I use those bass runs.  I play them according to the beat of the song. Just a 4/4 or whatever at the beat being used.  With my rignt hand, I will play the song.  Most of the time, the right hand is doing something totally different but at the same bpm.  If the song calls for it, I will change the run to fit, then go right back to the beat. 

I totally internalize the run so that it is on automatic.  Then I can freely use my right hand.  You can change the run(order of notes)without affecting the beat, then go back to the original notes. It would be like you were playing a bass guitar on a walking beat.

 I don't know about the major/minor chords except that they sound good.  I would like info on their use.

berbie

DITTO :)

The following are just jazzy progressions I play with very deep bass on the LH & piano on the RH:

In Db

7-3-6-2-5-1-4-b7

[7] C/Db-Eb-Gb-Bb
[3] F/C-Eb-G-Ab
[6] Bb/Db-F-Ab-C, D-G-Ab-C
[2] Eb/Db-F-Gb-Bb
[5] Ab/C-F-Gb-Bb
[1] Db/Bb-Db-Eb-F-Ab
[4] Gb/Bb-Db-Eb-F-Ab
[b7] Cb/Bb-Eb-Gb-Ab

(repeat)

In Db

b7-6-2-5-1

[b7] Cb/Gb-Bb-Db-Eb-F
[6]  Bb/Eb-G-Ab-C
[2]  Eb/Db-F-Gb-Bb
[5]  Ab/C-F-Gb-Bb
[1]  Db/F-Ab-Bb-Eb

(repeat)

The following one was a big 1 for me.
I 1st did a 7-3-6-2-5-1-4-b7 in Gb, then I did 1 in Db. Thereafter I combined the progressions to come up with this 1..Of course I modified my inversions so that I didn't move around too much.
I use a very deep bass on my left (like Fretless/ House etc) & piano on the RH.

The exciting part about the following progression is that you can actually play the 1st chord, then jump to the 3rd, then 5th & it sounds like that's how it's "ought" to be.
so experiment around it & personalise if you like the jazzy sound. For instane, straight after the 1st chord, you could go to the 6 in Gb chord then the 5 in Db etc ;):

[key I based the chord on] Bass/ RH or LH

[b7 in Gb]  Fb/Cb-Db-Eb-Gb-Ab   
[7 in Db]   C/Bb-Db-Eb-Gb-Bb
[7 in Gb]  F/Cb-Eb-Gb-Ab
[3 in Db]  F/C-Eb-G-Ab
[3 in Gb]  Bb/Db-F-Ab-C
[6 in Db]  Bb/D-G-Ab-C
[2 in Db]  Eb/Db-F-G-C
[6 in Gb]  Eb/Db-F-Gb-Bb
[2 in Gb]  Ab/Cb-Eb-Gb-Bb
[5 in Db]  Ab/C-F-Gb-Bb
[5 in Gb]  Db/C-F-Gb-Bb
[1 in Db]  Db/Bb-Eb-F-Ab
[1 in Gb]  Gb/Bb-Db-Eb-Ab
[4 in Db]  Gb/Bb-Db-Eb-F-Ab
[b7 in Db] Cb/Bb-Eb-Gb-Ab
[4 in Gb]  Cb/Bb-Db-Eb-Gb-Ab

(repeat)

Now the great thing with the above system is you are actually modulating temporarily all the time. The more keys you base your chords on, the more challenging it will be.

The brackets there are very useful for me because when I am coming up with chord combos, I just use the numbers & if what I have chosen requires me to jump around, I just play the inversion that allows minimal movement.

I hope this helps you to start thinking "outside the box" when dealing with progressions.

Memphiskey, I hope you see how I've just come up with that..I know you're very keen to learn how to create one's own progressions. ;)


Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: musallio on August 07, 2008, 01:58:59 PM
Oops!
almost forot to add my alternative to the 2-5 walkup & 5-1...
this is a very popular progression & applies to 90 % of the songs I play (if not more). again, deep bass on LH.

in Db

#1-#2-#4 or #5-5 then 5-#5-#6-1

D/ A-Db-Eb-Gb
E/ Ab-Db-Eb-F
G or A/A-Db-Eb-Ab
Ab/ Ab-Db-^Eb-F   ^=trill

Ab/Gb-Bb-C-Eb
A/E-A-C#
B/F#-B-D#
C#/G#-(B#)-C#-F

(repeat)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: T-Block on August 07, 2008, 03:12:20 PM
Hey T, for your last post, what is the timing for those bass-lines? What is the timing for the chords?

For most of the bass lines, it's 4/4 time, meaning one note per beat.  Only one of them is different, and I'll try to explain the timing of it:

G#, G, G#, A, A#, A, A#, F#, G, A#, C#, E, D#, C#, A#, C#

Ab, G, Ab, A, Bb, A, Ab, Gb, G, Bb, Db, Fb, Eb, Db, Bb, Db

This bass line is to be played fast with a ragtime feel to it.  They will be played like triplets, except the middle beat of the triplet will be a rest.  So, it's like this:

Normal triplets played like this:  [1, and, a]  [2, and, a] [3, and, a]  *each # and word is a note played

Triplets with a rest in the middle:  [1,   , a]  [2,   , a] [3,   , a]  *notice the middle note of the triplet is not to be played

Now that we understand that, let me explain the timing for the bass line:

Key Db

[1]     Ab /
[  ]
[a]     G /
[2]     Ab /
[  ]
[a]     A /
[3]     Bb /
[  ]
[a]     A /
[4]     Ab /
[  ]
[a]     Gb /
[1]     G /
[  ]
[a]     Bb /
[2]     Db /
[  ]
[a]     Fb /
[3]     Eb /
[  ]
[a]     Db /
[4]     Bb /
[and]  Db /

Try it slow, then increase speed as u get more comfortable with the notes.  U can find this bass line in the song "Praise Him" by Smokie Norful on his Limited Edition CD.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: T-Block on August 11, 2008, 02:52:22 PM
Aiight folks, this is the end of the C#/Db month.  Next will be the key of D, so get ready to start posting anything u know that will help someone in that key.  Thanks to all who participated in this thread.  I think it was a great success!!!  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: Fenix on August 11, 2008, 03:13:00 PM
Suggestion (actually a command):

Why not have a super thread, and in that thread, post links to a thread for each key. This thread can get lost easily.

Thanks (actually meaning get to ir right away you lazy slugworm)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: T-Block on August 11, 2008, 03:33:00 PM
Suggestion (actually a command):

Why not have a super thread, and in that thread, post links to a thread for each key. This thread can get lost easily.

Thanks (actually meaning get to ir right away you lazy slugworm)

If u give me some time, I already had that idea in the works Speedy.  :P
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: Fenix on August 11, 2008, 04:38:34 PM
If u give me some time, I already had that idea in the works Speedy.  :P

Well if you need help lemme know.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: T-Block on August 11, 2008, 05:16:32 PM
Well if you need help lemme know.

It's done. ;)
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: scnb378dc on August 28, 2008, 10:06:59 PM
here is a few chords in the key of Db you can play to use for your chord vocabulary

Key of Db

These are Chords you can play if the bass note is a 1 which is Db

DbAb/CEbFAb
DbAb/CFBb
DbAb/BbEbAb
DbAb/ADbEbAb
DbAbEb/DbFAbDb

These are Chords you can play if the bass note is a 2 which is Eb

EbBbF/GbBbDbF
EbBb/FGbBbDb
EbBb/DbFGbBb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 3 which is F

FCG/AbCEbAb
FC/EbGAbC
FA/EbAbDb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 4 which is Gb

GbDbAb/BbEbFAb
GbDb/FAbBbDb
GbDbGb/FBbDbF
GbDbGb/BbFBb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 5 which is Ab

AbEbBb/CFGbBb
AbEb/FGbBbDb
AbEbBb/GbBbDbAb
AbEbAb/BEbGbBb
AbEbAb/BbBEbGb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 6 which is Bb

BbFC/DbFAbC
BbFBb/AbCDbF
BbFC/AbDbFAb
BbF/AbDbGb
BbFBb/EbAbCEb

These are chords you can play if the bass note is a 7 which is C

CFC/AbCEbAb
CG/BbEbAb
CE/BbEbAb

these are the chords which is part of the theory of Jamal. Hope this helps
Is this a left hand/right hand type thing?
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: jjjoe on August 28, 2008, 10:43:54 PM
yes it is.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: scnb378dc on August 29, 2008, 12:15:28 AM
yes it is.
Thanks. I thought so but just wanted to make sure.
Title: Re: Learn Every Key: C#/Db
Post by: sterling615 on March 08, 2010, 09:37:00 AM
Great theory T, Still in the learning phase please please keep the education coming!