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Title: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: 3rd-Day on January 20, 2009, 08:55:53 AM
Ya'll better Google! ;)
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: trsmooth on January 20, 2009, 04:33:27 PM
oh yessir!!!! me myself and im sure most guys on here that are avid youtubers know Hadrien Feraud...he is definitely a talented bassist!!!! like Jaco but with a modern flow. and if you havent heard his album, definitely check it out....beastin'!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: 3rd-Day on January 20, 2009, 04:49:05 PM
oh yessir!!!! me myself and im sure most guys on here that are avid youtubers know Hadrien Feraud...he is definitely a talented bassist!!!! like Jaco but with a modern flow. and if you havent heard his album, definitely check it out....beastin'!!!!!!
I got it fam. I have been listening to it for a little over a month now. Killer ideas and arrangements.  I was hoping ya'll knew about him. I put his name in the search box and nothing came up, thats why I started the thread. Dude is a ridiculous player and very down to earth. I love the album.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: trsmooth on January 20, 2009, 05:07:32 PM
yea he's definitely out of this world.....maybe one day ill get to seem him live.....
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: jeremyr on January 21, 2009, 12:04:43 PM
I might be the oddball out here, but I really can't get into him at all.  As of late I don't really want to hear solos.  I want to hear someone filling the pocked up doing a supporting role. I know I just set bass players back like 30 years..lol, but I can't help it.  Nothing like someone seriously holding down the groove.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: trsmooth on January 21, 2009, 04:00:36 PM
I might be the oddball out here, but I really can't get into him at all.  As of late I don't really want to hear solos.  I want to hear someone filling the pocked up doing a supporting role. I know I just set bass players back like 30 years..lol, but I can't help it.  Nothing like someone seriously holding down the groove.


jeremyr, i feel you doc. aint nothing like a serious groove!!!! ive transformed into more of a groove player lately. but Hadrien Feraud composition and stucture of his solos... very interesting to listen to....
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: floaded27 on January 21, 2009, 10:00:59 PM
I might be the oddball out here, but I really can't get into him at all.  As of late I don't really want to hear solos.  I want to hear someone filling the pocked up doing a supporting role. I know I just set bass players back like 30 years..lol, but I can't help it.  Nothing like someone seriously holding down the groove.

u not the oddball. that was the shortest time i ever spent on youtube. even the video with him and nathan east playing on the same bass at the same time lost interest after the first 10 seconds or so. Not a fan, but then again, i wasnt really too thrilled about Jaco either.

I think of it this way: Kobe can whip me on the b-ball court in a 1-on-1, but i still dot have to like his game.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: trsmooth on January 21, 2009, 11:09:52 PM
True.... everyone has different tastes and views on music. i study him for his technique, not so much licks. he seems to have a soft touch and clean sound......
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: chrismc101 on January 22, 2009, 06:10:35 AM
I agree, I am more of the BASSic. I like to lay back, and paint a picture for the background and keeping the pocket phat & tight.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: 3rd-Day on January 22, 2009, 07:46:39 AM
I can understand how ya?ll feel. As a board player I can appreciate a Bass player keeping a solid foundation. There is nothing worse than a Bass Player hot dogging because there is a time and place for everything. When that time comes, I can appreciate a cat that can tastefully balance both techniques; Grooving and soloing.  Personally I love Jimmy Haslip.  I can?t do Chick, Art, Oscar or them cats during a Sunday morning service, (I cant do them at all. lol) but I love the challenge, and the paradigm changes that?s why I listen to them or the likes.  I like Hadrien?s approached his arrangements are very interesting and dude is only like 24 or 25. Check his album out. ;)
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: dhagler on January 22, 2009, 07:55:12 AM
Less is more. :)
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: 3rd-Day on January 22, 2009, 08:31:23 AM
Less is more. :)
Depends on the situation.  ;)
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: dude-on-drums on January 22, 2009, 08:41:05 AM
I have a feeling that some of you don't know the definition of pocket.  Being in the pocket is about playing what's necessary for the music.  Your groove will depend on the genre.  An experimental jazz groove will feel a lot different than a R&B groove.  I have heard Hadrian with Chick Corea and trust me, he is solid gold.  I've heard him in person, holding down very simple grooves and complimenting the music.  I think you guys are really saying you can't play that style of music so it doesn't interest you lol.  Get out of your comfort zones and become well rounded across genres. 
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: jeremyr on January 22, 2009, 10:15:27 AM
I have a feeling that some of you don't know the definition of pocket.  Being in the pocket is about playing what's necessary for the music.  Your groove will depend on the genre.  An experimental jazz groove will feel a lot different than a R&B groove.  I have heard Hadrian with Chick Corea and trust me, he is solid gold.  I've heard him in person, holding down very simple grooves and complimenting the music.  I think you guys are really saying you can't play that style of music so it doesn't interest you lol.  Get out of your comfort zones and become well rounded across genres. 

I think you're over examining our statements and taking them out of context pretty bad.

I can't speak for anyone else, however I can play his "style of music" and simply what he does doesn't strike me as anything worth listening to.  period.  His phrasing just doesn't do it for me at all.  This isn't about a comfort zone, it's about not feeling what the guy has to offer.  There's nothing wrong with that at all.  How I feel doesn't make him not a great player.  He's obviously captured the worlds eye doing something,  I just could care less about it.  Jimmy Hasslip is someone that has phrasing that works for me.  He works in all types of settings.  Wether it be solos or holding down the groove.  He's ALWAYS solid.

I've looked at about 7-9 videos of Hadrien and they're all solo'esque performances.  With that being said while his technique might be great I don't feel anything in his solos nor the "groove" that he's trying to emulate.  His phrasing isn't musical to me at all.  I say the same thing about "bubby" that plays that 7 string mtd and plays for snoop.  Everytime I see those fingers movings super fast I say "good technique, but the phrasing just isn't cutting it".  Now obviously he can hold a groove or else he wouldn't be with snoop.

If you can show me a video of him with Chick holding it down more than likely I will dig it if he's solid, but i definitely haven't seen that yet, or else I'd have a different reply.


Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: floaded27 on January 22, 2009, 10:47:38 AM
come on people face reality. everybody isnt going to be unanimous in how they feel about your playing, your boy playing, or the next person. thats with anything in life. if someone dont like it, they have the right to that opinion just as you have the right to yours.

i get tired of when people big up someone and someone expresses their opinion that they dont care for whatever it is you are presenting, they "must be close minded or stuck in a comfort zone or whatever". Unless  you like everything that everyone does, what about the things YOU dont care for? I guess when its you with the dissenting opinion, all that stuff dont apply, huh?

And the sad thing is probably if i met this dude in person and said "you can play but i dont care for your style of playing" in a respectful manner as i did here, he'd probably say ok and go on about his business, while other people that probably dont even know him personally going mad hard for him. And you know what, being out there Im sure he's gotten that feedback plenty of times. Everybody does.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: 3rd-Day on January 22, 2009, 11:40:29 AM
Look everybody. I was only trying to big up the dude because I think he's nice, period. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and thats cool. True everyone is not going to agree. We all have preferences. If Hadrien is not that dude for you then so be it. I really didnt mean for this thread to change tempatures like this.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: floaded27 on January 22, 2009, 11:47:54 AM
Look everybody. I was only trying to big up the dude because I think he's nice, period. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and thats cool. True everyone is not going to agree. We all have preferences. If Hadrien is not that dude for you then so be it. I really didnt mean for this thread to change tempatures like this.

dude, it wasnt you that changed the temp. we checked him out as a result of the post. he probably gained many new fans because of the post, but we all should be able to respectfully express our feelings/opinions especially as brothers in christ. The regular posters know this well (me and jeremy have had our fair share of differing opinions...as we all do). I hope this doesnt discourage you to continue to post in other threads as well as start new ones in the future.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: dude-on-drums on January 22, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
You know what?  You have a right to voice your opinion but I feel like you should have some meat and potatoes behind it.  What is it about his phrasing dont you like?  I think its important to elaborate on your negative opinion when you speak on such a high level of musicianship.  Soooo...explain what you would do differently and why. 
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: Quebass86 on January 22, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
I might be the oddball out here, but I really can't get into him at all.  As of late I don't really want to hear solos.  I want to hear someone filling the pocked up doing a supporting role. I know I just set bass players back like 30 years..lol, but I can't help it.  Nothing like someone seriously holding down the groove.


I feel ya on this one.....pocket and groove, groove and pocket....that is my preference.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: 3rd-Day on January 22, 2009, 02:18:49 PM
dude, it wasnt you that changed the temp. we checked him out as a result of the post. he probably gained many new fans because of the post, but we all should be able to respectfully express our feelings/opinions especially as brothers in christ. The regular posters know this well (me and jeremy have had our fair share of differing opinions...as we all do). I hope this doesnt discourage you to continue to post in other threads as well as start new ones in the future.
Fam im straight.  8) If I hear something that I think may interest somebody, I put it out there no matter what the insrument is.

You know what?  You have a right to voice your opinion but I feel like you should have some meat and potatoes behind it.  What is it about his phrasing dont you like?  I think its important to elaborate on your negative opinion when you speak on such a high level of musicianship.  Soooo...explain what you would do differently and why. 

This is a good question though.   :)
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: floaded27 on January 22, 2009, 10:08:16 PM
i dont get why everyone that likes him is fine saying generic comments, but ones that dont particularly favor his or anyone else's playing have to give a thesis on exactly what it is they dont like and why and give an analysis of what they would do differently. How is saying "i like his phrasing" acceptable, but saying "i dont like his phrasing" has to come with an explanation. Why not explain what you like about it and why? Once the people who favor him do that (not the basic generic statements, but a detailed explanation), then I may oblige with my own answer to the question. Until then, i dont deem it necessary.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: timbass2882 on January 22, 2009, 10:41:24 PM
You know what?  You have a right to voice your opinion but I feel like you should have some meat and potatoes behind it.  What is it about his phrasing dont you like?  I think its important to elaborate on your negative opinion when you speak on such a high level of musicianship.  Soooo...explain what you would do differently and why. 





Just let it go man, you yourself was, wondering why some guy won guitar center drum off. Sounds like you had a problem with him wining maybe he did not play to your liking. What I am saying is you always have something to say about something. Maybe the guy won the drum off because the judges seen something they like. Maybe you did not see that, be careful with you say and do, because your always getting on someone, and you need to check yourself.

Every body have different taste in music, and what their saying is they dont like his solo, that does not mean they could not play his type of music. I all ways hear you say what you dont like but I dont always see you tell us word for word way. So start listening to what your saying, and what your telling other people. Soon it will come back and hit you in the head.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: 3rd-Day on January 23, 2009, 04:38:45 AM
i dont get why everyone that likes him is fine saying generic comments, but ones that dont particularly favor his or anyone else's playing have to give a thesis on exactly what it is they dont like and why and give an analysis of what they would do differently. How is saying "i like his phrasing" acceptable, but saying "i dont like his phrasing" has to come with an explanation. Why not explain what you like about it and why? Once the people who favor him do that (not the basic generic statements, but a detailed explanation), then I may oblige with my own answer to the question. Until then, i dont deem it necessary.
Dude cool out. The question was not directed at  "ones that dont particularly favor his style of playing."  It was addressed to the person who spoke on a high level of musicianship,   not you.  The first word in the title of this website is "Learn." 




Just let it go man, you yourself was, wondering why some guy won guitar center drum off. Sounds like you had a problem with him wining maybe he did not play to your liking. What I am saying is you always have something to say about something. Maybe the guy won the drum off because the judges seen something they like. Maybe you did not see that, be careful with you say and do, because your always getting on someone, and you need to check yourself.

Every body have different taste in music, and what their saying is they dont like his solo, that does not mean they could not play his type of music. I all ways hear you say what you dont like but I dont always see you tell us word for word way. So start listening to what your saying, and what your telling other people. Soon it will come back and hit you in the head.

 Dude wrong thread.  This thread is not about the GCDO.   You should have addressed this in the Drum Room

   
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: floaded27 on January 23, 2009, 08:58:41 AM
Dude cool out. The question was not directed at  "ones that dont particularly favor his style of playing."  It was addressed to the person who spoke on a high level of musicianship,   not you.

im good. i'll leave it alone. didnt mean to offend.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: jeremyr on January 23, 2009, 03:56:40 PM
Dude wrong thread.  This thread is not about the GCDO.   You should have addressed this in the Drum Room

He was just giving and anology pertaining to the situation that "Dude-on-drums" can relate to. 


What is it about his phrasing dont you like?

I shouldn't,but I'll bite. There isnt' a barebones answer about "phrasing" as it encompases ALOT if different facets of playing.  Some being Timing,spacing of notes, note choice, rhythm, dynamics.  Do you REALLY want me to write a 5 page essay on why I don't like his playing?!?!  If you do well that's quite to bad because I don't have the time nor do I care to write that in depth on a player I don't care for.

  I think its important to elaborate on your negative opinion when you speak on such a high level of musicianship. 

My opinion isn't negative, it's just what it is.  My opinion.  Just like I don't like french onion soup, but alot of other people do.  It's all personal preference.  You can't give constructive criticism to a person that isn't there.....

I feel like you're really just trying to stir up some mess to be quite honest. 

The bottom line is that some people like him, some people don't.  I actually went and looked at the videos to check out his technique even though I don't care for his playing.  Just because I don't like what he puts out doesn't mean I can't learn from it.

Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: dude-on-drums on January 23, 2009, 04:05:58 PM
LOL!  Im done with the bass room!  In here, you got sheep barking at wolves  :D  Carry on you guys, carry on! 
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: jeremyr on January 23, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
LOL!  Im done with the bass room!  In here, you got sheep barking at wolves  :D  Carry on you guys, carry on! 

lol....it's not like that man. Nothing has been taken personal and you're more than welcome.  I just feel like there's always a bias when it comes to someone not liking something (no matter what it is..doesn't have to be musicians or instruments).

You have to understand to go into detail about what I don't like about hadriens playing juts wouldn't be worth it here.  Now If he and I were talking and he asked me what I didn't like I'd tell him in a constructive way.

I just like to see a fair playing ground.


Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: timbass2882 on January 25, 2009, 05:03:58 PM
3rd day what I said was not for the drum section it was for dude on the drum. He knows what I was talking about, nothing taking personal, thats way you did not understand, so the statement I made was for here not the drum section. No one should take whats sayed on here personal it's just apart of chating, about likes and dislikes nothing wrong with that. Have A Bless Day!
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: dude-on-drums on January 27, 2009, 01:09:07 PM
3rd day what I said was not for the drum section it was for dude on the drum. He knows what I was talking about, nothing taking personal, thats way you did not understand, so the statement I made was for here not the drum section. No one should take whats sayed on here personal it's just apart of chating, about likes and dislikes nothing wrong with that. Have A Bless Day!


Naw man youre missing it.  First of all I have no idea who you are or what youre talking about.  Whatever you had to say shouldve been said at that time.  Now as I go back to not knowing who you are, I strongly encourage you to contribute more to the board and stop throwing rocks at the throne, Mr. 76 posts.   :D
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: nessalynn77 on January 27, 2009, 01:30:50 PM
*Checks the name on the door*

Oh, okay.  My bad.  ;)
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: dude-on-drums on January 27, 2009, 01:39:14 PM
*Checks the name on the door*

Oh, okay.  My bad.  ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: jeremyr on January 27, 2009, 03:28:30 PM
yall are a mess..lol
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: timbass2882 on January 27, 2009, 09:10:48 PM
No dude-on-the-drums I know what I am talking about. Like you said you do not remember, and what I said was for this time. A few more things, one you dont need to know me, and I dont care what you think about me. Who cares how many times I post, Now I feel like your getting personal. You think your Mr hot shot, but your just another drummer lost in the mix. So please keep your mouth close, because personally Im sick of hearing what you got to say.  :D
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: jeremyr on January 28, 2009, 09:19:42 AM
ok fellas.  Let's settle down here.

I have a feeling there is some miscommunication of emotions in these posts.  I would like to apologize if I had anything to do with this escalating.

No one is take personal shots, nor should be take it personal so lets let it go.

If you need to still talk it out feel free to use PM's.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: ddwilkins on January 28, 2009, 11:28:44 AM
ok fellas.  Let's settle down here.

I have a feeling there is some miscommunication of emotions in these posts.  I would like to apologize if I had anything to do with this escalating.

No one is take personal shots, nor should be take it personal so lets let it go.

If you need to still talk it out feel free to use PM's.

Thanks moderator. I definitely don't want to read about personal attacks, I want to read about personal encouragements. ;D
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: dhagler on January 28, 2009, 12:57:17 PM
If you need to still talk it out feel free to use PM's.

I was just about to make that suggestion. Good post, Jeremy.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: timbass2882 on January 28, 2009, 07:14:49 PM
Dude-on-drums,let me start off by saying I am sorry for what I sayed. I just got carryed away, my nerves was hit I did not mean no harm. Also LGM please forgive me for the way I came off. Thats all I can say on my behave,next time I will think about what I say, because It was eating away at me, after posting what I post.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: jeremyr on January 29, 2009, 09:17:10 AM
Dude-on-drums,let me start off by saying I am sorry for what I sayed. I just got carryed away, my nerves was hit I did not mean no harm. Also LGM please forgive me for the way I came off. Thats all I can say on my behave,next time I will think about what I say, because It was eating away at me, after posting what I post.

We need more people like you to man up!!! I'm going to follow your lead and apologize if I came off as rash or rude. 

Let's continue to keep the bass forum uplifted ladies and gents.  We can only go up from here because going down isn't an option.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: jacogroove on January 29, 2009, 05:47:58 PM
I 'm going to tell my little story about him.
I used to share the same stage with with in 2008. I played just before him.
I know I can play (both fingerstyle and funk) and really fast too. but I decided to be in the song ;
When he was playing there was always stuff that was useless.
I told him that he is a killer but to me "africa" is missing in his playing (both my parents come from Algeria in africa).He told me to listen to some african music he did with an african dude.
but it was the same to me.
In paris, a lot of guys can play like that.
But, I got to say that Hadrien is a great player, no doubt about it, but to me, it reminds me of the neo classical  movement in the 80s.
At first, you listen to it and you tell yourself "****!!!!!"
the second time it's less impressing but still amazing.
the 3rd time, you don't even notice.
I don't want to diss him, but I can always appreciate james jamerson listening to his basslines, same with andrew Gouche (to have an example closer to us)
but all these solos (even though I recognize they are great) are in the end all the same.
I can really sing these.
George Benson can play some amazing fast stuff and I can remenber the lines.
Oteil does the same thing with the bass.
The only thing that I notice is how fast and clear he can play.


Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: 3rd-Day on January 30, 2009, 01:59:36 PM
I 'm going to tell my little story about him.
I used to share the same stage with with in 2008. I played just before him.
I know I can play (both fingerstyle and funk) and really fast too. but I decided to be in the song ;
When he was playing there was always stuff that was useless.
I told him that he is a killer but to me "africa" is missing in his playing (both my parents come from Algeria in africa).He told me to listen to some african music he did with an african dude.
but it was the same to me.
In paris, a lot of guys can play like that.
But, I got to say that Hadrien is a great player, no doubt about it, but to me, it reminds me of the neo classical  movement in the 80s.
At first, you listen to it and you tell yourself "****!!!!!"
the second time it's less impressing but still amazing.
the 3rd time, you don't even notice.
I don't want to diss him, but I can always appreciate james jamerson listening to his basslines, same with andrew Gouche (to have an example closer to us)
but all these solos (even though I recognize they are great) are in the end all the same.
I can really sing these.
George Benson can play some amazing fast stuff and I can remenber the lines.
Oteil does the same thing with the bass.
The only thing that I notice is how fast and clear he can play.



I wasnt going to even reply in this thread anymore. Thank you for telling your story; very interesting. So you say there a lot of guys that can play like that?  One thing that you said stuck out to me can you please elaborate on it a little you said "I told him that he is a killer but to me "africa" is missing in his playing"  Can you explain this to me? I want to be sure that I understand exactly what you are saying. You can respond via PM if you'd like.

Im pretty much done with this thread.

The room is spinning...... ;D
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: jacogroove on January 31, 2009, 11:11:20 AM
when I say "africa is missing in his playing" I mean the soul and to a certain extent, the rythm.
when he plays it's really straight (16th notes sometimes 32nd notes...).
As I said I don't want to diss him, he's is a great player and a nice guy.
But listen to etienne mbappe , listen him taking solos and grooving and you will understand what I mean.
Etienne can playstuff like that, Michel alibo too.
Maybe not as fast sometimes, but fast anyway!
it's not how fast, it's all in the message.
when I listen to Jaco pastorius, I hear soul music too!
Hope you understand.
don't hesitate to ask you you want explanations.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: teebassist on February 01, 2009, 02:50:29 PM
 On "Djou Djou/Sixun" Michel Alibo reminds me of Standley clarke about thirty years ago. Very clean  bassist http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=48137692
Etienne Mbappe is very good too. I really enjoyed this post, all of it. ;)I have never seen anyone play with gloves on like that.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxlKtWyTl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxlKtWyTl0)
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: ssab on February 01, 2009, 09:38:45 PM
GLOVES??? REALLY?! ?/?
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: hands5 on February 02, 2009, 06:45:52 AM
 My son tried to hip to this brother,and it was cool for a bit,but after the 1st track I heard I was pretty much done with it,but thats no slight against him because I don't care to listen to a whole lot of Stanley,Victor, Jaco John Pattitucci,Jonas Helborg,Brian Bromberg John Myung and a few others as soloist,however I can listen to Willie Weeks,Robin Duhe,Verdin White,Bobby Watson and Verdine White, Ronald Wilson,William Murphy for days,because it's just cold hard grooving.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: jeremyr on February 02, 2009, 09:19:19 AM
My son tried to hip to this brother,and it was cool for a bit,but after the 1st track I heard I was pretty much done with it,but thats no slight against him because I don't care to listen to a whole lot of Stanley,Victor, Jaco John Pattitucci,Jonas Helborg,Brian Bromberg John Myung and a few others as soloist,however I can listen to Willie Weeks,Robin Duhe,Verdin White,Bobby Watson and Verdine White, Ronald Wilson,William Murphy for days,because it's just cold hard grooving.

same here.  Something about the music that makes you move that makes it to where you can't get enough of it.
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: Bullitt on February 02, 2009, 01:33:17 PM
This is about the closest I've come to hearing this guy play a "solid" groove.....meh, not really my cup of tea but he's got some great chops and I won't lie, I'm gonna take some of those chords lol

But I wouldn't say "groove" is his forte.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hfnGCRQJv4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hfnGCRQJv4&feature=related)


Be Blessed,
J

Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: trsmooth on February 02, 2009, 05:00:06 PM
This is about the closest I've come to hearing this guy play a "solid" groove.....meh, not really my cup of tea but he's got some great chops and I won't lie, I'm gonna take some of those chords lol

But I wouldn't say "groove" is his forte.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hfnGCRQJv4&feature=related[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hfnGCRQJv4&feature=related[/url])


Be Blessed,
J







hey everybody...ive been following this thread for a bit and see alot of you guys disagree and not feeling his style with his style. i just want to add that in the world of music, theres more to it than just the a common 4/4 groove....in this video the drummer is playing in a whole different time signature. in my opinion,he did his thing holding it down and filling it in.....in gospel, we tend to play in the common time signatures. i like watching stuff like this cause it opens my mind up to more then just the "norm"...
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: fLaT-fIfTh on February 02, 2009, 07:17:00 PM
This is about the closest I've come to hearing this guy play a "solid" groove.....meh, not really my cup of tea but he's got some great chops and I won't lie, I'm gonna take some of those chords lol

But I wouldn't say "groove" is his forte.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hfnGCRQJv4&feature=related[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hfnGCRQJv4&feature=related[/url])


Be Blessed,
J




Hadrien killed that joint. Your typical church cat probably would not have chosen that filthy chord placement... NICE!

God bless
Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: Bullitt on February 03, 2009, 09:44:37 AM



hey everybody...ive been following this thread for a bit and see alot of you guys disagree and not feeling his style with his style. i just want to add that in the world of music, theres more to it than just the a common 4/4 groove....in this video the drummer is playing in a whole different time signature. in my opinion,he did his thing holding it down and filling it in.....in gospel, we tend to play in the common time signatures. i like watching stuff like this cause it opens my mind up to more then just the "norm"...

Quote from: fLaT-fIfTh
Hadrien killed that joint. Your typical church cat probably would not have chosen that filthy chord placement... NICE!

God bless



Oh I agree with both of you.  Everything has it's time and place....in a gospel setting, I think his style of playing would clash and sound out of place but for the music he's doing, it works well so more power to him!

Sorry if my previous post came across as a bash in any way. I watched/listened to a few of his vids and got some stuff that I could use along with some stuff that I couldn't. Diversity is a wonderful two-edged sword lol

It would be like having Buddy Rich backing the Clark Sisters...could he do it? Sure, but IMO his particular style would clash in that genre.


Be Blessed,
J

Title: Re: Hadrien Feraud
Post by: mjl422 on February 03, 2009, 09:31:58 PM
I have to say, after watching several of his videos, I agree with the general consensus.  It seems like he doesn't really have much to say.  It sounds like a bunch of exercises pieced together.  I can see how people can be wowed by his technique (especially if they can't do it themselves) but, music is about more than just technique. 

Maybe, if I hear him in a different context (like playing through some changes or some more melodic playing or some straight groove playing) I could enjoy it a little more.  But, to be honest, it sounds like the kind of exercises that we do when we're warming up (almost like a drummer who sits down and do a bunch of fast fills and rolls).  It sounds impressive to somebody who can't do it but, everybody is not gonna be wowed by it.  JMO.