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Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: B3Wannabe on December 13, 2004, 09:00:51 AM
These are diagrams of the keys Bb, Ab, and F. Study these and see how many rules you can pick out of each one. I'll post some of these rules later, if all of them aren't posted.



KEY OF Bb

(12th)---------------------------(5th)-------------(1st)||

---+-1-+-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-||
---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-+-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-||
-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-||
-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-+-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-||
-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-+-7-+---||




KEY OF Ab

(12th)---------------------------(5th)-------------(1st)||

---+-2-+---+-1-+-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-+-3-||
---+-5-+---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-+-7-+---+-6-||
---+-1-+-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-||
---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-+-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-||
-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-||




KEY OF F

(12th)---------------------------(5th)-------------(1st)||

---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-+-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-||
-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-||
-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-+-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-||
-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-+-3-+---+-2-+---+-1-+-7-+---||
-2-+---+-1-+-7-+---+-6-+---+-5-+---+-4-+-3-+---||



As you can see, the pattern stays the same for all the keys. It just shifts. Memorize this pattern and, within a few months, you'll be able to play any song! All you'll need to practice is finger/slap technique and improv after this, if you have a good ear (experience musican/vocalist). If your ear needs development then learn this and practice following your favorite music (simple slow songs of course!!!).
Title: sorry
Post by: Redemeer01 on December 15, 2004, 08:26:20 PM
im just a beginner and im sorry but it didnt make any sense to me  :?  but it probobly would to a smarter person then me
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: Tlove on January 24, 2005, 06:12:59 PM
Explain to me how to read this?
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: Tlove on January 24, 2005, 06:24:31 PM
I found your post about to read charts and I understand now, would this be a chart for a 5 String Bass?
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: B3Wannabe on January 24, 2005, 07:13:46 PM
Yep. You can use it for 4, 6, or 7 strings too, but you'll have to figure out the notes on the other strings. It follows a pattern though.

If you have 7 strings, you have the whole circle next to there on 1 fret, so you can do a whole 7,3,6,2,5,1,4 on some of the frets...if you understand what I mean.

Being a board player, I knew some theory already, so that's how I approach learning the bass. I listen to the recordings of all the music I like and figure out the patterns of the fills that the bassist use. Once I know the pattern, and with some finger training, I can play the same thing.
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: SmithPlayer on March 17, 2005, 03:53:58 PM
This is upside down to me. I'm right handed.
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: ladybass on March 18, 2005, 11:47:07 PM
Quote from: SmithPlayer
This is upside down to me. I'm right handed.


I agree.  I'm left handed, but play like a righty.  However, I believe which ever way you do play, the tabs should read from left to right (like reading sheet music or a book, if you're of non-Jewish decent).  B3 I think we discussed this a ways back.  No, wait, I think we discussed the order in which you had the strings.

ex:  

e------------------------------
a------------------------------
d------------------------------
g------------------------------

versus

g------------------------------
d------------------------------
a------------------------------
e------------------------------
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: B3Wannabe on April 18, 2005, 05:48:06 AM
Right. I didn't think to change this one also. I guess I'll get to it, one day.
Title: ...
Post by: insanesquirle on May 13, 2005, 09:53:32 PM
ok he might have got this but i read your read chart thingy and this is still making no sense to me... what order am i supposed to read it in o.o
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: tondee on July 14, 2005, 07:58:26 PM
He made the chart upside down.  That's correct for a right-handed player.  While you are playing your bass, stop playing and spin your bass til the strings are facing you.  It would be identical to the chart.  That's the way you actually see the bass as you are playing and looking down at it.  The thick lower strings are closer to your face.  When you look at the chart, assume your fingers are approaching the chart from the bottom, going behind, and coming over the top, as if the chart is the actual instrument.

Tony
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: B3Wannabe on July 14, 2005, 09:16:18 PM
When I play bass, I see it like I posted above, but I can understand how someone would see it the other way, especially if they've read a lot of tabs.
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: tondee on July 16, 2005, 08:27:42 AM
Quote from: B3Wannabe
When I play bass, I see it like I posted above, but I can understand how someone would see it the other way, especially if they've read a lot of tabs.


Oh, wait.  You have the nut to the right.  Taking a second look I see I was wrong.  I would have to slow down to use your notes.  Yes, If I made one it would be just like the tabs even though I don't read much tabs.  For me, the convenience of tab-type is that if I print it off, grab that print, put it to my chest and look down at it, the arrangement would match my fingerboard perfect.  However, I'm more dependant to, I think they're called, leadsheets?!  (Just tell me where I should be).

Tony
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: B3Wannabe on July 16, 2005, 11:47:04 AM
Lead sheets don't work for me, because I have yet to memorize the notes on the fretboard.  8O  I've memorized the pattern of the scale, which was easy enough. I'm slowly learning the notes on the fretboard though.
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: MikeGee on September 11, 2005, 04:19:35 PM
Quote from: B3Wannabe
Lead sheets don't work for me, because I have yet to memorize the notes on the fretboard.  8O  I've memorized the pattern of the scale, which was easy enough. I'm slowly learning the notes on the fretboard though.


8 string or 4? I can see a problem on 8 but a 4
Title: Bass guitar scale concepts
Post by: cailee on September 17, 2005, 10:24:35 PM
I'm left-handed and play a lefty.  I see right-handed players like I'm looking in the mirror.  The chart is perfect for me.  If I were doing charts, I would probably do it this way.  Tabs are confusing to me.  I prefer bass clef notation.  I'll work out the fingering.  I like to stay close to bottom and use the open strings whenever I can.[/list]