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Title: (no 3) Chords
Post by: l2edl2azor on May 21, 2009, 08:40:22 PM
Would someone like to elaborate on the no 3 chords? I see the A2(no3) quite often and honestly play the A2. I was just wondering what it is. I will assume that it may be a guitar chord and is played somehow from the 3 fret???
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: csedwards2 on May 21, 2009, 09:35:40 PM
A2(no3)= A/ABE (no C/C#)

may also be noted as Asus2 or A2
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: l2edl2azor on May 21, 2009, 09:44:46 PM
Thanks!!! So I understand that the (no3) is  NO! 3 and not No.3(number 3)?
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: csedwards2 on May 21, 2009, 09:54:30 PM
right
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: betnich on May 21, 2009, 11:59:41 PM
It's just the Root and the 5th, no 3rd - so - for example -

C5(no 3rd) =  C  G
     - also can be played as -
C2 = C D G

Known as a "power chord" among guitarists. Used in Israel's YOU ARE GOOD ("You are good, all the time" part) and rock-anthem CCM, mostly...
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: T-Block on May 22, 2009, 06:42:45 AM
It's just the Root and the 5th, no 3rd - so - for example -

C5(no 3rd) =  C  G
     - also can be played as -
C2 = C D G

Known as a "power chord" among guitarists. Used in Israel's YOU ARE GOOD ("You are good, all the time" part) and rock-anthem CCM, mostly...

The power chord is the 1-5 only. If u add in the 2, technically u no longer have a power chord.
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: betnich on May 22, 2009, 12:25:50 PM
The power chord is the 1-5 only. If u add in the 2, technically u no longer have a power chord.

True - but you know how keyboard players like to stick extra notes and changes in...

:D
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: csedwards2 on May 22, 2009, 01:05:49 PM
piano players refer to the power chord as being 1, 5, and 7
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: betnich on May 22, 2009, 02:56:45 PM
piano players refer to the power chord as being 1, 5, and 7

Is that a Maj7 or a min7 ???  ?/?
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: csedwards2 on May 22, 2009, 04:33:58 PM
doesnt matter, I would think, but Ive heard it more commonly used for the dom7
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: jonesl78 on May 29, 2009, 07:36:05 AM
Sometimes you'll see the no3 when you have to play a major or dominate 11th chord. The Major 3rd and 4 generally do not sound good together unless it is a minor 3rd with the 11. A Major 3rd that is present will usually be accompanied by a #11, otherwise it will be left out or suspended for harmonic purposes.
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: B3Wannabe on June 01, 2009, 01:44:09 PM
Sometimes you'll see the no3 when you have to play a major or dominate 11th chord. The Major 3rd and 4 generally do not sound good together unless it is a minor 3rd with the 11. A Major 3rd that is present will usually be accompanied by a #11, otherwise it will be left out or suspended for harmonic purposes.

Yep.

I have gospel sheet music that use this formula.
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: docjohn on June 02, 2009, 05:50:45 AM
How is a 2 note chord a "power chord"? Is it just because of guitar players penchant for effects?To me ,"2" chords seem kinda lame irrespective of how you voice them,would rather have a few more voices. Why not a 9th? if you spread the chord out,have a little more juice-of course dropping the 3rd messes you up on whether it's a M/m chord.
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: jonesl78 on June 02, 2009, 09:48:46 AM
How is a 2 note chord a "power chord"? Is it just because of guitar players penchant for effects?To me ,"2" chords seem kinda lame irrespective of how you voice them,would rather have a few more voices. Why not a 9th? if you spread the chord out,have a little more juice-of course dropping the 3rd messes you up on whether it's a M/m chord.

The 1 and 5 are power chords that were popular in the eighties on the guitar. You probably use two note chords as passing phrases all the time and don't realize. Maybe not the 1 and 5, but the root and Major/minor 3rd.
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: betnich on June 02, 2009, 01:09:36 PM
How is a 2 note chord a "power chord"? Is it just because of guitar players penchant for effects?To me ,"2" chords seem kinda lame irrespective of how you voice them,would rather have a few more voices. Why not a 9th? if you spread the chord out,have a little more juice-of course dropping the 3rd messes you up on whether it's a M/m chord.

Power Chords (just 1+5) are used a lot by Guitarists - and are voiced down in the Bass Clef, so they sound less muddy in that range than closer-voiced triads.

In contrast, lots of Jazz guitarists use Treble-range voicings way up on the neck, so they can cluster more of those 'color' tones together...
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: docjohn on June 03, 2009, 06:36:04 AM
That's a helpful tibit Bet! thanks
Title: Re: (no 3) Chords
Post by: betnich on June 03, 2009, 11:40:05 AM
You're Welcome...


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