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Main => Ministry, M.O.M, Praise Teams and Choirs => Topic started by: churchyreal on March 14, 2010, 01:50:05 PM
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Which one does the congregation do during praise & worship for the most part?
If your church was sitting before and now stands was it a change the pastor insitituted?
Right now the congregation sits with a few standing. A lot of the contemporary churches that I visit in the Greensboro area (NC) everyone in the congregation stands during praise & worship. Our church does praise & worship but at the core we are still a little on the traditional side (not saying that is bad, just being objective).
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Our congregation stands.
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Right now the congregation sits with a few standing. A lot of the contemporary churches that I visit in the Greensboro area (NC) everyone in the congregation stands during praise & worship. Our church does praise & worship but at the core we are still a little on the traditional side (not saying that is bad, just being objective).
The people will stand when they are ready to.
At my church most of the people stand and sing along.
At my old church, it took quite a while after we started doing PnW before the people were used to it and participated, and many of them were new members.
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Yeah, I think U is on to something. It's hard to change the mindset of folks who have been sitting, but as new people come they can ease in a new way, not by force, just by example.
Almost everyone stands at my church, but a few still sit, which is okay. I'm sitting the whole time on the drums, so I forget how it feels sometimes to want to have a seat for a bit after standing through a couple of songs.
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At my previous church, we had instituted a Praise & Worship team for the first time, and it was slowly received, because the congregation was full of majority 'seasoned' members, and so this was new to them. For a while, they wouldn't stand up. So after a while, because the deacons still open up with scripture and prayer, we would have the deacons tell the congregation to stand for praise n worship. Now when that first started, ppl would stand for the first song, then sit for the second song (we always only sang two songs...didn't wanna overdue it). After about 6 months though...and the congregation began to get use to the idea of praise and worship, they began to participate in it more.
The church I'm at now i really enjoy, because the whole congregation is into the P&W, and it really sets the tone for the rest of the service.
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Our Church still actually does devotion which may be strange to some now. But it's lead by whoever is conducting service,one of the ministers. We do a song, alter call with a song, another song, scripture, and fellowship song. whoever is conducting normally does all of the leading of the songs.
Our praise team actually serves as the choir once a month on the second Sunday usually. they do anywhere from 3-4 songs all together. They also normally render music for any outside engagement as well. Different but I love it. Learned it from another church that uses their praise team for music ministry during Wednesday night service.
Sorry I've rambled so much I never answered the question. some stand some sit. which i believe is okay either way, because it's all about your personal relationship with God. Just cause i ask you to stand doesn't mean you have to, and I can't make you.
I learned a valuable lesson early on as a preacher some people do different things to express their praise or response to a service or sermon. I used to get worried when none of the seasoned members would say much while I preached then I soon found out that they'd just rather tell me personally after I preached. Different strokes for different folks. ;D ;D ;D
Disclaimer Sorry the post was so long I'm at work bored to death ( and yes I do work) LOL
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The vast majority sit.
We don't actually have a Praise & Worship just a traditional Devotion.
But every now and then a P&W song will be song because someone wanted to sing it for devotion.
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THE CONGREGATION STANDS WHEN THEY ARE READY TO BUT EVERYONE STANDS ON THE LAST SONG THE DEACON OR PRAISE TEAM SINGS FOR WE CAN DO THE LORD'S PRAYER.
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My pastor is young, so P&W is a part of his culture. He has made it very clear (openly, in the mic) that members of our church are to stand during P&W. So our members do stand. We have guests who don't stand, but usually when guests see everyone else standing, they'll stand too.
The hard part, for me, is getting the parents to make their children stand. I hate the notion that kids aren't really a part of the worship experience and don't have to do what the adults are doing. During offering, the kids don't move. Someone says "everybody standing," the kids don't move. Lift your hands in worship... the kids don't move. Close your eyes and pray... the kids keep doing whatever they're doing. I was raised differently, and I'm sticking with that.
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My pastor is young, so P&W is a part of his culture. He has made it very clear (openly, in the mic) that members of our church are to stand during P&W. So our members do stand. We have guests who don't stand, but usually when guests see everyone else standing, they'll stand too.
The hard part, for me, is getting the parents to make their children stand. I hate the notion that kids aren't really a part of the worship experience and don't have to do what the adults are doing. During offering, the kids don't move. Someone says "everybody standing," the kids don't move. Lift your hands in worship... the kids don't move. Close your eyes and pray... the kids keep doing whatever they're doing. I was raised differently, and I'm sticking with that.
I dont agree with making everyone stand during PnW :-\
As for the Kids not standing, maybe whoever has the mic should say announce that the kids should be standing as well.
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I dont agree with making everyone stand during PnW :-\
As for the Kids not standing, maybe whoever has the mic should say announce that the kids should be standing as well.
I do. Unless the "everyone" is disabled or elderly or something like that. TWISI, P&W creates an atmosphere, and the enthusiasm and participation of the people contributes to that atmosphere.
As for the kids, I simply blame the parents. But if they are sitting anywhere near me or can read my lips, I simply tell them to get up.
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I do. Unless the "everyone" is disabled or elderly or something like that. TWISI, P&W creates an atmosphere, and the enthusiasm and participation of the people contributes to that atmosphere.
As for the kids, I simply blame the parents. But if they are sitting anywhere near me or can read my lips, I simply tell them to get up.
I just think that people should be free to be in whatever posture that they desire to be in during PnW. Imagine if you went to a church and the Pastor made everyone sit down with their hands folded for PnW....How would that make you feel? Everybody has their own way of praising and worshiping.
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Being absolutely objective:
What's wrong with promoting a culture of standing in praise and worship, a time that should be totally devoted to God, if its ok to promote a culture of standing for the pastor, reading of scripture, etc?
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I just think that people should be free to be in whatever posture that they desire to be in during PnW. Imagine if you went to a church and the Pastor made everyone sit down with their hands folded for PnW....How would that make you feel? Everybody has their own way of praising and worshiping.
You're just a rebel, aren'tcha? :D
If one could find biblical basis for the congregation sitting with their hands folded, then you'd have a point.
Other than that, when we get in the mind of doing what we feel like doing and calling it 'reverencing God', I think we tread upon shaky ground. After all, how does one give a 'sacrifice' of praise when one is comfortable?
The Bible instructs us on how we are to give praise and worship to our God. BTJM. *kanyeshrug*
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I do believe that everyone has their own way of praising God however I feel like when we come in His presence God should receive the same reference and more as a judge or the president of the YTBUSA.
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I do believe that everyone has their own way of praising God however I feel like when we come in His presence God should receive the same reference and more as a judge or the president of the YTBUSA.
reverence, bruh. ::) :-\
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I do believe that everyone has their own way of praising God however I feel like when we come in His presence God should receive the same reference and more as a judge or the president of the YTBUSA.
Why are basing our worship on worldly comparisons? ;D j/k
But I think that saying that someone cant worship or praise while sitting down, laying down on the floor etc is preposterous.
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I see your point Under13.
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You're just a rebel, aren'tcha? :D
If one could find biblical basis for the congregation sitting with their hands folded, then you'd have a point.
Other than that, when we get in the mind of doing what we feel like doing and calling it 'reverencing God', I think we tread upon shaky ground. After all, how does one give a 'sacrifice' of praise when one is comfortable?
The Bible instructs us on how we are to give praise and worship to our God. BTJM. *kanyeshrug*
Thanks. I knew my answer, but couldn't articulate it like that. That's perfect.
Why are basing our worship on worldly comparisons? ;D j/k
But I think that saying that someone cant worship or praise while sitting down, laying down on the floor etc is preposterous.
No one said that you "can't" worship or praise while sitting down or laying on the floor... I worship all day at work, while sitting in my chair. I worship in my bed at night and first thing in the morning. I praise in the car or while sitting on the train...
P&W is about CORPORATE worship... being with one accord, in one place (literally and figuratively) doing the same thing with the same goal in the same spirit.
I think if you ask any P&W leader, they'll be able to tell you why it's so important that people are standing. I'm not one, but I know the deal... for one, singing to people that are sitting puts you in a position of entertaining or singing TO people instead of leading them in corporate worship. It does NOT foster corporate worship. Plus, people who are sitting during P&W tend not to participate (or not as enthusiastically as they can) in the corporate worship experience, and they can get lazy, complacent, comfortable (which goes against SACRIFICING praise in an offering for corporate worship).
Yeah, I said corporate worship a lot... it was for a reason.
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No one said that you "can't" worship or praise while sitting down or laying on the floor... I worship all day at work, while sitting in my chair. I worship in my bed at night and first thing in the morning. I praise in the car or while sitting on the train...
P&W is about CORPORATE worship... being with one accord, in one place (literally and figuratively) doing the same thing with the same goal in the same spirit.
I think if you ask any P&W leader, they'll be able to tell you why it's so important that people are standing. I'm not one, but I know the deal... for one, singing to people that are sitting puts you in a position of entertaining or singing TO people instead of leading them in corporate worship. It does NOT foster corporate worship. Plus, people who are sitting during P&W tend not to participate (or not as enthusiastically as they can) in the corporate worship experience, and they can get lazy, complacent, comfortable (which goes against SACRIFICING praise in an offering for corporate worship).
Yeah, I said corporate worship a lot... it was for a reason.
And that's what leads me to lean on the side of the argument that says that it's best to stand, everyone, during praise & worship. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter but I just think that when we come in the presence of God (which starts at home and outside church through our relationship in God) we should be reverencing in all ways including standing, kneeling, laying prostrate, etc.
Good discussion folks!
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And that's what leads me to lean on the side of the argument that says that it's best to stand, everyone, during praise & worship. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter but I just think that when we come in the presence of God (which starts at home and outside church through our relationship in God) we should be reverencing in all ways including standing, kneeling, laying prostrate, etc.
Good discussion folks!
I believe it does matter, actually.
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I believe it does matter, actually.
Hmmmmm.
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Thanks. I knew my answer, but couldn't articulate it like that. That's perfect.
No one said that you "can't" worship or praise while sitting down or laying on the floor... I worship all day at work, while sitting in my chair. I worship in my bed at night and first thing in the morning. I praise in the car or while sitting on the train...
P&W is about CORPORATE worship... being with one accord, in one place (literally and figuratively) doing the same thing with the same goal in the same spirit.
I think if you ask any P&W leader, they'll be able to tell you why it's so important that people are standing. I'm not one, but I know the deal... for one, singing to people that are sitting puts you in a position of entertaining or singing TO people instead of leading them in corporate worship. It does NOT foster corporate worship. Plus, people who are sitting during P&W tend not to participate (or not as enthusiastically as they can) in the corporate worship experience, and they can get lazy, complacent, comfortable (which goes against SACRIFICING praise in an offering for corporate worship).
Yeah, I said corporate worship a lot... it was for a reason.
I disagree.
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I disagree.
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Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges! >:(
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Just to be clear, I dont disagree with everything you wrote, I just dont think it matters if every single person is standing during praise and worship. As for those who never stand, I'm not one to judge them. :-\
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Just to be clear, I dont disagree with everything you wrote, I just dont think it matters if every single person is standing during praise and worship. As for those who never stand, I'm not one to judge them. :-\
Let me challenge you:
If it doesn't matter whether everyone is standing during praise & worship (which I don't fully disagree with you on) does that question the notion of corporate worship and even the time we call praise & worship?
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Let me challenge you:
If it doesn't matter whether everyone is standing during praise & worship (which I don't fully disagree with you on) does that question the notion of corporate worship and even the time we call praise & worship?
I dont think that corporate means that every single person has to be doing the SAME EXACT thing.
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I dont think that corporate means that every single person has to be doing the SAME EXACT thing.
Hmmm I see.
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I believe it does matter, actually.
I totally agree with you.
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Just to be clear, I dont disagree with everything you wrote, I just dont think it matters if every single person is standing during praise and worship. As for those who never stand, I'm not one to judge them. :-\
I wouldn't judge them either, unless they're being defiant or rebellious... then I would "judge" them as defiant or rebellious. *shrug*
No one is saying that if every single person doesn't stand, then the Spirit of the Lord won't be present, or God won't be glorified, or the worship experience won't be rich or pleasing to God... no one is saying it's tragic if everyone doesn't stand.
I don't think there's any point going back and forth. I don't think you'll really get it until you become a P&W leader.
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I totally agree with you.
I wouldn't judge them either, unless they're being defiant or rebellious... then I would "judge" them as defiant or rebellious. *shrug*
No one is saying that if every single person doesn't stand, then the Spirit of the Lord won't be present, or God won't be glorified, or the worship experience won't be rich or pleasing to God... no one is saying it's tragic if everyone doesn't stand.
I don't think there's any point going back and forth. I don't think you'll really get it until you become a P&W leader.
This. It's more than that, but I'll, like you, leave it there.
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I like to think of my church as a traditional church. However, sometimes we ask everyone that can, please stand during Praise and Worship. I think it out of respect and reference to the Holy Spirit. The rest of the service the congregation gets a chance to sit, so why not stand. I prefer everyone that can, stand. in addition, it's a sign of unity as we go into his presence.