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Gospel Instruments => Bass Guitar => Topic started by: arthur59 on November 24, 2010, 04:53:44 PM
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The number system is a method of writhing chord charts so that a song can be discussed,arranged and performed in any key.in the number system numbers are assign to each step of the scale degree,the number represent chords or a single note,lets keep it simple and use single notes for now. Let's start with the key of "C"
C D E F G A B C
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Let;s say the verse of the song(in notes) is: C B A D G C
in the number system it would be: 1 7 6 2 5 1
in the key of "C"
Let's say you change keys to "Bb"
Bb C D Eb F G A B (playing the same verse)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8, the notes would be:Bb A G C F Bb
the numbers would be:(in the key of Bb) 1 7 6 2 5 1
The only thing that change in the number system is where the "1" starts, notice that your finger pattern stays the same.
I hope this lesson is help full to someone please leave a comment ::) ::) .
Peace!
The Number System, part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlmgUrkcDtc#ws)
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I think one of the most important part of understanding the number system is understanding the modes. None of it made sense to me until I understood the modes, which took a while to click in my mind in and of itself. Good work here sir.
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Thanks for the lesson, you just saved my mind (thought process was hurting, LOL) Praise God. Keep teaching. :D
P.S. You got jokes too. :)
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I think one of the most important part of understanding the number system is understanding the modes. None of it made sense to me until I understood the modes, which took a while to click in my mind in and of itself. Good work here sir.
Thanks Anthym, I think the modes, chords and inversion would be a little to much for some beginners,as an advance bass player if someone told you to play the progression:1 3 5 you would know that's:Ionian(major) Phrygian(minor) Mixolydian(major) and instead of playing single notes you would play arpeggios or chords and you would add your own flavor by playing different inversion of those arpeggios and chords.
If someone told a beginner to play a:1 3 5 in the key of "c" they can play single notes and be wright.Thanks for your feed back Anthym :)
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No disrespect but it would it be easier to learn music theory. It is the right way to do what you are doing and much easier.
http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=free+music+theory+lessons (http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=free+music+theory+lessons)
Be Blessed
James
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No disrespect but it would it be easier to learn music theory. It is the right way to do what you are doing and much easier.
[url]http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=free+music+theory+lessons[/url] ([url]http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=free+music+theory+lessons[/url])
Be Blessed
James
Thanks for your feed back.
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arthur59,thanks for the lesson,I understood everything you were talkihg about.
How much I owe you for the lesson? $20.OO $30.OO, Very well done.
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Thanks man I appreciate the lesson if you are willing to teach I am willing to learn.
May God bless you for you caring and willingnes to help others grow.
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This pass Sunday I played for A choir that I never played with B4, they song 2 selection that I never heard of,the keyboard player saw that I was lost so he started calling out numbers to help me out..I fell right in place. He just assume that I new the number system..and I did!
I think every Gospel musician should know the number system.
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WOW I GET IT THAT'S COOL
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Thanks arthur59! Great lesson, thanks for the work you put into this. :)
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No disrespect but it would it be easier to learn music theory. It is the right way to do what you are doing and much easier.
[url]http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=free+music+theory+lessons[/url] ([url]http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=free+music+theory+lessons[/url])
Be Blessed
James
While I agree... that learning music theory would be better.. I find that the number system is a great way to help you out along the way. I can't speak for anyone else, but for me music is an ongoing thing... and learning music theory starts with the basics.. but to fully understand it and apply it correctly IMO takes time ... and we are all at different levels.. IMO the number system is a good way to allow you to function and learn the instrument in real time with actual playing while you are learning theory...
Thanks for the tips Arthur..
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While I agree... that learning music theory would be better.. I find that the number system is a great way to help you out along the way. I can't speak for anyone else, but for me music is an ongoing thing... and learning music theory starts with the basics.. but to fully understand it and apply it correctly IMO takes time ... and we are all at different levels.. IMO the number system is a good way to allow you to function and learn the instrument in real time with actual playing while you are learning theory...
Thanks for the tips Arthur..
Your welcome SavnBass
The number system goes much deeper then what I explained in this lesson...before I take them (beginners) into deep water, they must enter shallow water first ;)
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I'd like to post a few thoughts on what Arthur is doing...
1) While there are many videos out there, it's not always you can interact directly with the instructor (ask questions, advice, etc).
2) Arthur is one of our own (learngospelmusic).
3) I'm not to speak on Arthur's behalf, but if this is one way that God has laid on Arthur's heart that he should bless this community, then I by all means appreciate that. I am learning formal theory too, but it never hurts to learn as much as possible. I like the preparation and effort I see Arthur throwing into these lessons.
I have faith that God will somehow reward Arthur for his kindness.
Thanks Arthur!!!
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I agree with Asahel 100%.
Arthur, you have truly been a Blessing and I want to encourage you and all of our adminstrators, that your efforts are not in vein. we are learning and absorbing what you all have too offer. While music theory is probably the best route to go, sometimes with life hectic schedules, family, church, work, school and so on, we just don't have time for anything else. That why this forum was created to help each other.
Finally, Arthur never grow weary in your well doing. God has blessed you to blessed others.
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I'd like to post a few thoughts on what Arthur is doing...
1) While there are many videos out there, it's not always you can interact directly with the instructor (ask questions, advice, etc).
2) Arthur is one of our own (learngospelmusic).
3) I'm not to speak on Arthur's behalf, but if this is one way that God has laid on Arthur's heart that he should bless this community, then I by all means appreciate that. I am learning formal theory too, but it never hurts to learn as much as possible. I like the preparation and effort I see Arthur throwing into these lessons.
I have faith that God will somehow reward Arthur for his kindness.
Thanks Arthur!!!
mm,Just who do this guy think he is, coming in here teaching me how to play by numbers,how to play scales using finger patterns,how to add colors to my bass playing,how to play modes, how to keep it simple,how to apply all this stuff to a song who is this guy!...HE'S ARTHUR59 and he was sent here to help "ME", because I was getting frustrated trying to learn how to play more then just the root note to a song.
Thank you Arthur59. ;)
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I'd like to post a few thoughts on what Arthur is doing...
1) While there are many videos out there, it's not always you can interact directly with the instructor (ask questions, advice, etc).
2) Arthur is one of our own (learngospelmusic).
3) I'm not to speak on Arthur's behalf, but if this is one way that God has laid on Arthur's heart that he should bless this community, then I by all means appreciate that. I am learning formal theory too, but it never hurts to learn as much as possible. I like the preparation and effort I see Arthur throwing into these lessons.
I have faith that God will somehow reward Arthur for his kindness.
Thanks Arthur!!!
Thank you Asahel for your kind words :'(
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I agree with Asahel 100%.
Arthur, you have truly been a Blessing and I want to encourage you and all of our adminstrators, that your efforts are not in vein. we are learning and absorbing what you all have too offer. While music theory is probably the best route to go, sometimes with life hectic schedules, family, church, work, school and so on, we just don't have time for anything else. That why this forum was created to help each other.
Finally, Arthur never grow weary in your well doing. God has blessed you to blessed others.
Thank you Doc :)
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I love the number system, but I am having trouble transferring them into notes when my keyboard player yells them out. Help!
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Ready for part 2 of the number system. :)
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Now I can understand what the keyboardist is talking about when he say play the 2 5 1 in the key of Db.
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bumping for newbies
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bumping for newbies
WOW! that was about two years ago. I wonder should I review this lesson with the newbies, and should I post some new ones as well?
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WOW! that was about two years ago. I wonder should I review this lesson with the newbies, and should I post some new ones as well?
it can't hurt. I know personally I really liked when you posted videos and explained things. I just didn't like when I had to log into a completely different website to do everything that was a turn off for myself. But when you were posting stuff here it was great!
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it can't hurt. I know personally I really liked when you posted videos and explained things. I just didn't like when I had to log into a completely different website to do everything that was a turn off for myself. But when you were posting stuff here it was great!
Hey phbrown your not a newbie you should know all this stuff by now! :D :D.
If there's enough newbies who would be interested in me going over this, and posting more lessons I would be glad to I just need to know that there is a need! ?/?
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Hey phbrown your not a newbie you should know all this stuff by now! :D :D.
LOL, I know and I do thanks to you and many others here on LGM.
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LOL, I know and I do thanks to you and many others here on LGM.
There's a few good bass player here on LGM that don't mind taking the time to work with the newbies. It was hard for me growing up in the church trying to play bass, I never got help from the good bass players," My brother's in Christ" and they wouldn't help me when I ask them for help... LGM is a place were we help one another we have some pro bass players here that don't mind posting videos and giving advice, FOR FREE!! " EACH ONE TEACH ONE" :D
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I love the number system, but I am having trouble transferring them into notes when my keyboard player yells them out. Help!
Just in case you (or anyone else) is struggling with this, the key is to learn your major scales. Whatever system you have of doing this, keep it up until you know them like the back of your hand.
I like to drill myself sometimes with major scales. I have a blank sheet of paper with the first note of each major scale listed. Then I time myself at how fast I can fill them in. I can list all 15 (12+3 enharmonics) in bout 5 minutes.
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I'm an intermediate but I still need help with shout music, Can you help a brother out.
Thanks
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I love the number system, but I am having trouble transferring them into notes when my keyboard player yells them out. Help!
Are you still having trouble kingjames59?
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I got it!!!! Thank you.
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The number system is a method of writhing chord charts so that a song be discussed,arranged and performed in any key.in the number system numbers are assign to each step of the scale degree,the number represent chords or a single note,lets keep it simple and use single notes for now. Let's start with the key of "C"
C D E F G A B C
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Let;s say the verse of the song(in notes) is: C B A D G C
in the number system it would be: 1 7 6 2 5 1
in the key of "C"
Let's say you change keys to "Bb"
Bb C D Eb F G A B (playing the same verse)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8, the notes would be:Bb A G C F Bb
the numbers would be:(in the key of Bb) 1 7 6 2 5 1
The only thing that change in the number system is where the "1" starts, notice that your finger pattern stays the same.
I hope this lesson is help full to someone,please leave a comment ::) ::) .
Peace!
The Number System, part 1 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlmgUrkcDtc#ws[/url])
This lesson was very helpful,but my experience's with charts have never been in the No.System,you had to read the chart Note for Note ! which inturn was to read music, but this is still good info.
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I agree with Asahel 100%.
Arthur, you have truly been a Blessing and I want to encourage you and all of our adminstrators, that your efforts are not in vein. we are learning and absorbing what you all have too offer. While music theory is probably the best route to go, sometimes with life hectic schedules, family, church, work, school and so on, we just don't have time for anything else. That why this forum was created to help each other.
Finally, Arthur never grow weary in your well doing. God has blessed you to blessed others.
[/quote Well said DocRoy!
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This lesson was very helpful,but my experience's with charts have never been in the No.System,you had to read the chart Note for Note ! which inturn was to read music, but this is still good info.
This is also called "the Nashville System". Studio musicians take their charts and immediately write the numbers down above the notes and hurry and get them to all musicians involved, sometimes right in the recording studio. Look it up!
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I'm an intermediate but I still need help with shout music, Can you help a brother out.
Thanks
Hey if you YouTube search Sean Byrd he is doing a free bass lesson starting with the shout groove, if you know your numbers it will lead you in the right direction, I am learning my numbers now and i feel like it just clicked everything that he was teaching is no longer foreign...Thanks Arthur59
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Hey if you YouTube search Sean Byrd he is doing a free bass lesson starting with the shout groove, if you know your numbers it will lead you in the right direction, I am learning my numbers now and i feel like it just clicked everything that he was teaching is no longer foreign...Thanks Arthur59
hopefully this link works for you...
http://youtu.be/a2N5tcWBwYo (http://youtu.be/a2N5tcWBwYo)
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Welcome t o the sit ehargravejr don't be a stranger and feel free to ask questions!
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Welcome t o the sit ehargravejr don't be a stranger and feel free to ask questions!
Thanks for the welcome PHBrown, Im a fairly new bassist, discovered this site and learned so much in the first day...im really enjoying the unity here, and look forward to learning much more. ;D
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Thanks for the welcome PHBrown, Im a fairly new bassist, discovered this site and learned so much in the first day...im really enjoying the unity here, and look forward to learning much more. ;D
Welcome!
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ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU!
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This is a good lesson, I got it cool. thanks
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Yes, a very good lesson. I now have a couple of more tools (Arpeggios, major and minor pentatonic) i can utilize in shout bass line.
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HEY GUYS! :D
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Thank Helpful !
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Glad I could help someone 😉