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Main => Book Club => Topic started by: Arkhams Finest on November 29, 2011, 08:54:01 AM
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In this thread we'll post some nuggets of wisdom, mini-exhortations, revelations, etc. we've gathered from whatever we're reading.
I'll start...
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The story of the criminal who was crucified with Jesus is the ultimate story of Grace.
In those times many criminals were taken to be Roman Warship rowers. Only the worst of the worst, those deemed to violent and/or unpredictable, were crucified. Clearly this man had done something terrible (and he admitted that he deserved his punishment).
We all know the story well. In his final hours he confessed Christ and received salvation.
Stephen lived a Godly life and was stoned to death as a martyr. Paul turned his life around and did more to advance the first century church than anybody and also died a martyr. This criminal lived a life of sin and was crucified for his horrible crimes. Yet they all get the same eternal reward.
Doesn't seem fair does it?
This man made it in by the skin of his teeth. What did he have to offer? He couldn't atone for his sins. There were no promises to be made (and subsequently kept or broken). There was no gift he could give. What does rededication mean when you only have hours to live? It's like a child breaking a rule and then pleading for forgiveness when his father takes off his belt, or a criminal in a courtroom asking for mercy when he has already been convicted of the murder he committed.
He had no leverage, no good deeds to offer as evidence of his worthiness, and no argument for why he should get into heaven.
What he received was Grace.
See, grace is never about us. It isn't about making promises to do better. It's about God's goodness and his lovingkindness. His mercy.
So to answer my earlier question, NO. It isn't fair. Thank God Grace isn't fair!
If I look back at all the stupid sins I've committed, the promises to God I made and then broke, the times I did wrong when I KNEW what right was, why would I want 'fair'? Fair is me getting what I deserve. I don't want fair.
I want Grace!
Gleaned from: The Grace of God by Andy Stanley
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I love this thread. Looking forward to some of U13's nuggets too. He's read some good stuff about money and Black folks, etc.
Makes me want to pick up some books I've already read and post my highlights.
One that comes to mind right off the bat was the very first thing I got from Pagan Christianity about proof-texting. I'll find the post and post it here.
Okay, now off to read the nugget up there ^^^^.
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I love this thread. Looking forward to some of U13's nuggets too. He's read some good stuff about money and Black folks, etc.
I just started this book called "Powernomics". Some really Deep stuff...
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Was reading some stuff from the department of Homeland Security
From wikipedia
Security through obscurity is a pejorative referring to a principle in security engineering, which attempts to use secrecy of design or implementation to provide security. A system relying on security through obscurity may have theoretical or actual security vulnerabilities, but its owners or designers believe that if the flaws are not known, then attackers will be unlikely to find them.
The DHS basically was saying that the preceding idea is false...
However I just realized something isn't a password the same? .. . oh well who care build a door and there is a way in is how I see it
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I just started this book called "Powernomics". Some really Deep stuff...
Oooo I want that book!
One big nugget from what I"m reading right now (particularly Purpose Driven Life) is the issue of surrender. I need to surrender to God in light of some things He has been speaking to me. This morning's reading hit me right in the head. When we surrender to God, we have to understand that it may cost but it is worth it because at the end of the day making God smile is what matters the most. I'll post some quotes a little later.
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Why is getting your heart's deepest desire so often a disaster? In the book of Romans, Saint Paul wrote that one of the worst things God can do to someone is to "give them over to the desires of their hearts" (Romans 1:24). Why would the greatest punishment imaginable be to allow someone to achieve their fondest dream? It is because our hearts fashion these desires into idols. In that same chapter, Paul summarized the history of the human race in one sentence: "They worshipped and served created things rather than the creator" (Romans 1:25). Every human being must live for something. Something must capture our imaginations, our heart's most fundamental allegiance and hope. But, the Bible tells us, without the intervention of the Holy Spirit, that object will never be God himself.
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How did Abraham get himself to walk up into the mountains in obedience to God's call? The masterful Hebrew narrative gives us tantalizing hints. He told his servants that "we will come back to you" (Genesis 22:5). It is unlikely he had any specific idea of what God would do. But he did not go up the mountain saying, "I can do it," filled with willpower and self-talk. Rather, he went up saying, "God will do it…but I don't know how." Do what? God would somehow remove the debt on the firstborn and still keep the promise of grace.
Abraham was not just exercising "blind faith." He was not saying, "This is crazy, this is murder, but I'm going to do it anyway." Instead he was saying, "I know God is both holy and gracious. I don't know how he is going to be both —but I know he will."
We see God's extremely rough treatment of Abraham was actually merciful. Isaac was a wonderful gift to Abraham, but he was not safe to have and hold until Abraham was willing to put God first. As long as Abraham never had to choose between his son and obedience to God, he could not see that his love was becoming idolatrous. In a similar way, we may not realize how idolatrous our career has become to us, until we are faced with a situation in which telling the truth or acting with integrity would mean a serious blow to our professional advancement. If we are not willing to hurt our career in order to do God's will, our job will become a counterfeit god. And all idolatry is destructive.
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God saw Abraham's sacrifice and said, "Now I know that you love me, because you did not withhold your only son from me" But how much more can we look at his sacrifice on the Cross, and say to God, "Now, we know that you love us. For you did not withhold your son, your only son, whom you love, from us." When the magnitude of what he did dawns on us, it makes it possible finally to rest our hearts in him rather than in anything else.
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We learn that through all of life there runs a ground note of cosmic disappointment. You are never going to lead a wise life until you understand that. Jacob said, "If I can just get Rachel, everything will be okay." And he goes to bed with the one who he thinks is Rachel, and literally, the Hebrew says, "in the morning, behold, it was Leah" (Genesis 29:25). One commentator noted about this verse, "This is a miniature of our disillusionment, experienced from Eden onwards." What does that mean? With all due respect to this woman (from whom we have much to learn), it means that no matter what we put our hopes in, in the morning, it is always Leah, never Rachel.
"Counterfeit Gods" by Timothy Keller
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@TJ Wow! Love it!
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"The Bible is not an end in itself, but a means to bring men to an intimate and satisfying knowledge of God"
"Current evangelicalism has laid the altar and divided the sacrifice into parts, but now seems satisfied to count the stones and rearrange the pieces with never a care that there is not a sign of fire..."
"There is today no lack of Bible teachers to set forth correctly the principles of the doctrines of Christ, but too many of these seem satisfied to teach the fundamentals of the faith year after year, strangely unaware that there is in their ministry no manifest Presence, nor anything unusual in their personal lives. They minister constantly to believers who feel within their breasts a longing which their teaching simply does not satisfy."
-The Pursuit of God by A.W. Tozer
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"Counterfeit Gods" by Timothy Keller
Added to my Amazon Wishlist
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"The Bible is not an end in itself, but a means to bring men to an intimate and satisfying knowledge of God"
"Current evangelicalism has laid the altar and divided the sacrifice into parts, but now seems satisfied to count the stones and rearrange the pieces with never a care that there is not a sign of fire..."
"There is today no lack of Bible teachers to set forth correctly the principles of the doctrines of Christ, but too many of these seem satisfied to teach the fundamentals of the faith year after year, strangely unaware that there is in their ministry no manifest Presence, nor anything unusual in their personal lives. They minister constantly to believers who feel within their breasts a longing which their teaching simply does not satisfy."
-The Pursuit of God by A.W. Tozer
Got the pdf copy on my iPad. Need to read it!
My Lawd! My "to read" list is growing and growing and growing....SMH! LOL!!
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Got the pdf copy on my iPad. Need to read it!
My Lawd! My "to read" list is growing and growing and growing....SMH! LOL!!
Tell me about it! I probably have enough books in my Amazon Wishlist to keep me busy for the next 2 years.
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Tell me about it! I probably have enough books in my Amazon Wishlist to keep me busy for the next 2 years.
LOL! Exactly!
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"The Bible is not an end in itself, but a means to bring men to an intimate and satisfying knowledge of God"
"Current evangelicalism has laid the altar and divided the sacrifice into parts, but now seems satisfied to count the stones and rearrange the pieces with never a care that there is not a sign of fire..."
"There is today no lack of Bible teachers to set forth correctly the principles of the doctrines of Christ, but too many of these seem satisfied to teach the fundamentals of the faith year after year, strangely unaware that there is in their ministry no manifest Presence, nor anything unusual in their personal lives. They minister constantly to believers who feel within their breasts a longing which their teaching simply does not satisfy."
-The Pursuit of God by A.W. Tozer
O. M. G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I either have, or am about to get this. book!!!
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O. M. G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I either have, or am about to get this. book!!!
SHONDO!!!
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O. M. G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I either have, or am about to get this. book!!!
It's a good book. I'm about halfway through. I disagree with the writer on some of his doctrinal beliefs, but overall it's a good book.
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It's a good book. I'm about halfway through. I disagree with the writer on some of his doctrinal beliefs, but overall it's a good book.
Like?
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Like?
Ummmm, I'd rather not go there. :D
I prefer not to get into doctrine on LGM. It was nothing blasphemous...just some things I disagree with. Still, I'm enjoying the book. It's really making me think.
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"For it is not mere words that nourish the soul, but God Himself, and unless and until the hearers find God in personal experience they are not the better for having heard the truth."
-The Pursuit of God by A.W. Tolzer
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"For it is not mere words that nourish the soul, but God Himself, and unless and until the hearers find God in personal experience they are not the better for having heard the truth."
-The Pursuit of God by A.W. Tolzer
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"The absolute holiness of God should be of great comfort and assurance to us. If God is perfectly holy, then we can be confident that His actions towards us are always perfect and just. We are often tempted to question God's actions and complain that He is unfair in His treatment of us. This is the devil's lie, the same thing he did to Eve. He essentially told her, 'God is being unfair to you' (Genesis 3:4-5). But it is impossible in the very nature of God that He should ever be unfair. Because He is holy, all His actions are holy."
"When the Holy Spirit comes into our lives at our salvation, He comes to make us holy in practice. If there is not, then, at least a yearning in our hearts to live a holy life pleasing to God, we need to seriously question whether our faith in Christ is genuine."
"In all of our thoughts, all of our actions, in every part of our character, the ruling principle that motivates and guides us should be the desire to follow Christ in doing the will of the Father. This is the high road we must follow in the pursuit of holiness."
"As we grow in the Christian life we face increasing danger of spiritual pride. We know the correct doctrines, the right methods and the proper do's and don'ts. But we may not see the poverty of our own spiritual character. We may not see our critical and unforgiving spirit, our habit of backbiting or our tendency to judge others."
"The Pursuit of Holiness" by Jerry Bridges
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The story of the criminal who was crucified with Jesus is the ultimate story of Grace.
In those times many criminals were taken to be Roman Warship rowers. Only the worst of the worst, those deemed to violent and/or unpredictable, were crucified. Clearly this man had done something terrible (and he admitted that he deserved his punishment).
We all know the story well. In his final hours he confessed Christ and received salvation.
Stephen lived a Godly life and was stoned to death as a martyr. Paul turned his life around and did more to advance the first century church than anybody and also died a martyr. This criminal lived a life of sin and was crucified for his horrible crimes. Yet they all get the same eternal reward.
Doesn't seem fair does it?
This man made it in by the skin of his teeth. What did he have to offer? He couldn't atone for his sins. There were no promises to be made (and subsequently kept or broken). There was no gift he could give. What does rededication mean when you only have hours to live? It's like a child breaking a rule and then pleading for forgiveness when his father takes off his belt, or a criminal in a courtroom asking for mercy when he has already been convicted of the murder he committed.
He had no leverage, no good deeds to offer as evidence of his worthiness, and no argument for why he should get into heaven.
What he received was Grace.
See, grace is never about us. It isn't about making promises to do better. It's about God's goodness and his lovingkindness. His mercy.
So to answer my earlier question, NO. It isn't fair. Thank God Grace isn't fair!
If I look back at all the stupid sins I've committed, the promises to God I made and then broke, the times I did wrong when I KNEW what right was, why would I want 'fair'? Fair is me getting what I deserve. I don't want fair.
I want Grace!
Gleaned from: The Grace of God by Andy Stanley
If I've never felt God move through anything said on LGM I surely felt him through this. This is very powerful!!! Literally just about in tears before I could get half way through reading. This is a Golden Nugget indeed. I've got to print and share this with someone!!!
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"People can usually trace their successes and failures to the relationships in their lives."
"Who you are determines the way you see everything. You cannot separate your identity from your perspective. All that you are and every experience you've had color how you see things."
"The difference between who you are today and who you will be in five years will be the people you spend time with and the books you read."
"People who often experience relational differences are tempted to look at everyone but themselves to explain the problem. But we must always begin by examining ourselves and being willing to change whatever deficiencies we have."
"People often respond to our attitudes and actions more than to our words. Many petty conflicts occur because people use the wrong tone of voice."
"The way you treat people will stay with them a lot longer than the words you choose. Act accordingly."
"Winning with people: Disover the People Principles that work for you everytime" by John Maxwell
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"People can usually trace their successes and failures to the relationships in their lives."
"Who you are determines the way you see everything. You cannot separate your identity from your perspective. All that you are and every experience you've had color how you see things."
"The difference between who you are today and who you will be in five years will be the people you spend time with and the books you read."
"People who often experience relational differences are tempted to look at everyone but themselves to explain the problem. But we must always begin by examining ourselves and being willing to change whatever deficiencies we have."
"People often respond to our attitudes and actions more than to our words. Many petty conflicts occur because people use the wrong tone of voice."
"The way you treat people will stay with them a lot longer than the words you choose. Act accordingly."
"Winning with people: Disover the People Principles that work for you everytime" by John Maxwell
I like that. :)
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"History is a wheel, for the nature of man is fundamentally unchanging."
"A book can be as dangerous as a sword in the right hands."
"Do you take me for a Butcher?"
"Better the butcher than the meat."
Game of Thrones Books 4 & 5.
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I like that. :)
Man, that book has really confirmed some things for me and made me look closely at the mirror...whew!
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"A book can be as dangerous as a sword in the right hands."
YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
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"A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies. The man who never reads lives only one."
"Power tastes best when sweetened by courtesy."
"I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men."
Game of Thrones Book Five
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"A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies. The man who never reads lives only one."
OH YESSSSSSS!!!!
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"...the mind is mainly the servant of the heart. That is, the mind serves to know the truth that fuels the fires of the heart. The apex of glorifying God is enjoying Him with the heart. But this is an empty emotionalism where that joy is not awakened and sustained by true views of God for who He really is. That is mainly what the mind is for."
-Think: The life of the mind and the love of God
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"If we don't choose to think harder we will settle for an adolescent level of understanding the rest of our lives."
-Think: The life of the mind and the love of God
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"The most insidious thing about bondage is how easy it is to grow accustomed to it."
A Game of Thrones Book 5 (A Dance with Dragons)
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I just started the book last night, but here are a few gold nuggets so far:
"If you add to or subtract from the cross, even if it is to factor in biblically mandated religious practices like prayer and evangelism, you rob God of his glory and Christ of his sufficiency. Romans 8:1 tells us that there is no condemnation for us, not because of all the great stuff we've done but because Christ has set us free from the law of sin and death. My sin in the past: forgiven. My current struggles: covered. My future failures: paid in full all by the marvelous, infinite, matchless grace found in the atoning work of the cross of Jesus Christ."
"There is nothing confining God. His creativity is transcendent because his very being is transcendent. Everything that is is his, and he can make more of anything he wants out of nothing at all. There is no human category for this kind of richness. It makes Bill Gates a pauper, Rockefeller a beggar, and one of those island-owning sheiks in the Middle East a hobo. I don't know what it makes you and me, but it certainly moves us into the perspective of awe that God deserves. Now we get a glimpse of what would move Paul to sing from his soul, "Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God!"
"Romans 11:33 tells us instead that God is incomprehensibly immense, exceedingly expansive, and eternally powerful, and so much so that time and time again our response to many of the things of God ought to be "I don't know." Rather than respond to his incalculable God-ness with our slide rules and flowcharts, we would do better to worship him with reverence and awe. How can God see, know, and do all that he does? I don't know."
He talks about worship and why we must talk about Hell in order to fully embrace the Gospel. VERY good stuff.
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Wow! Good stuff!
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His creativity is transcendent because his very being is transcendent.
Mind: Blown
My favorite color is blue.
God CREATED BLUE. In the beginning there was nothing. God created COLORS with no point of reference and no context. He saw colors in his mind's eye and created them.
That absolutely boggles the mind. I'm shaking my head. It's seems so simple, but can you imagine a color you've never seen? Can you picture it in your mind's eye? :-X
So amazing.
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From "Max on Life: Answers and Insights to Your Most Important Questions" by Max Lucado:
The question was: "I've been disappointed so many tiimes by human love. And I think this has given me a faulty view of God's love. Can you help me understand how his love is different from human love?"
"Human love is convenient. It suits the needs of the person at the time and works into his schedule. God's love is eternal. You are always on God's itinerary. Come and go as you wish, but he's always there. Human love is limited. It can love only as much as it wants to give. God's love is unlimited. He has ample amounts of love and even uses words like abundant when talking about pouring out his love on people.
God's love is committed. While God has feelings for us, his feelings don't dictate his love. His love is based on a decision to love us. Your actions don't increase or decrease his commitment. His love is a deeper and more secure love than the flucturating Ferris wheel of feeling. Human love is selfish. It must suit our needs and be there for us. To love, we must be loved. God's love is unselfish. In fact if you never love God, he will still love you. Your love has no bearing on the amount of love he lavishes on you.
Our goal as Christians should be to express God's love in our human relationships so people will never make the statement you made (question at the top).We should all have someone in our lives on whom we can look back and say, 'I saw God's love in that person.'"
Hope this encourages someone. :)
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Here are a few quotes from chapter 1 of "Soul Detox: Clean Living in a Contaminated World" by Craig Groeschel:
"As we see ourselves through the lens of our experiences, beliefs, and perspectives, we all have our blind spots. As the Bible describes the problem, 'The heart is deceitful above all things' (Jeremiah 17:9). No matter how objective we hope to be, our viewpoint is always to some--sometimes large--degree. Here's the challenge. The longer we view ourselves through a distorted lens, the more likely we are to believe a distorted truth. The longer we lie to ourselves, deceive ourselves, or remain in denial about the truth, the more likely we are to base our decisions and actions on this false belief system."
"Those who are the most defensive are often the most unknowingly guilty. It's been said that the more convinced you are that you're right, the more likely you are wrong. If you fight back against those trying to help you, chances are you are fighting to keep your own lies intact. If someone who loves you tries to show you a dangerous pattern in your life, you might be 100 percent convinced they are wrong when the truth is they are 100 percent correct."
"Please listen to what your loved ones have been trying to tell you. If more than one person has told you that you have a problem with something, chances are pretty good you have a problem."
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Here are a few quotes from chapter 1 of "Soul Detox: Clean Living in a Contaminated World" by Craig Groeschel:
"As we see ourselves through the lens of our experiences, beliefs, and perspectives, we all have our blind spots. As the Bible describes the problem, 'The heart is deceitful above all things' (Jeremiah 17:9). No matter how objective we hope to be, our viewpoint is always to some--sometimes large--degree. Here's the challenge. The longer we view ourselves through a distorted lens, the more likely we are to believe a distorted truth. The longer we lie to ourselves, deceive ourselves, or remain in denial about the truth, the more likely we are to base our decisions and actions on this false belief system."
First of all, I love this entire quote. Second, the highlighted sentence seems to be incomplete. As if there were a few words after the word 'degree' that you left out perhaps?
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How to win friends and influence people:
"John D Rockefeller said that 'the ability to deal with people is as purchasable a commodity as sugar or coffee. And I will pay more for that ability than for any other under the sun."
"few of the criminals in Sing Sing regard themselves as bad men. They are just as human as you and I. So they rationalize. They explain. They can tell you why they HAD to crack a safe or be quick on the trigger finger. Most of them attempt by a form of reasoning, fallacious or logical, to justify their antisocial acts even to themselves, consequently stoutly maintaining that they should never have been imprisoned at all.......I personally had to blunder through this old world for a third of a century before it even began to dawn upon me that ninety-nine times out of a hundred, people don't criticize themselves for anything, no matter how wrong it may be. Criticism is futile because it puts a person on the defensive and usually makes him strive to justify himself. Criticism is dangerous, because it wounds a person's precious pride, hurts his sense of importance, and arouses resentment."
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain-and most fools do. But it takes character and self-control to be understanding and forgiving. Carlyle said: 'A great man shows his greatness by the way he treats little men'. "
"Instead of condemning people, let's try to understand them. Let's try to figure out why they do what they do. That's a lot more profitable and intriguing than criticism; and it breeds sympathy, tolerance and kindness. To know all is to forgive all."
"There is nothing else that so kills the ambitions of a person as criticisms from superiors...So I am anxious to praise but loathe to find fault."
"Charles Schwab said: 'In my wide association in life, meeting with many and great people in various parts of the world, I have yet to find the person, however great or exalted his station, who did not do better work and put forth greater effort under a spirit of approval than he would ever do under a spirit of criticism."
"Don't be afraid of enemies who attack you. Be afraid of the friends who flatter you."
"Emerson said: 'Every man I meet is my superior in some way. In that, I learn of him."
There are sooooo many more highlights I made on my Kindle. Very good book.
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First of all, I love this entire quote. Second, the highlighted sentence seems to be incomplete. As if there were a few words after the word 'degree' that you left out perhaps?
That line should say "No matter how objective we hope to be, our viewpoint is always distorted to some--sometimes large--degree."
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That line should say "No matter how objective we hope to be, our viewpoint is always distorted to some--sometimes large--degree."
Ah, that was the missing word. Makes sense. Thanks.
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Ah, that was the missing word. Makes sense. Thanks.
No, thank you for point out the fact that there was a word missing.
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More quotes from "Soul Detox" by Craig Groeschel:
"You can't overcome a sin that you can't identify."
"The root of most sins we commit outwardly is the false beliefs we embrace inwardly. In order to experience a life of purity with a clean heart, we must identify and reject the toxic thoughts that keep us from God's best."
"Most of life's battles are won or lost in the mind."
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"The bottom line in leadership isn't how far we advance ourselves but how far we advance others."
"The best place for a leader isn't always the top position. It isn't the most prominent or powerful place. It's the place where he or she can serve the best and add the most value to other people."
"The attitude of the leader affects the atmosphere of the office. If you desire to add value by serving others, you will become a better leader. And your people will achieve more, develop more loyalty, and have a better time getting things done than you ever thought possible."
Quotes are from "The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership" by John Maxwell focusing on the Law of Addition, which states that leaders add value by serving others.
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This story in chapter 3 of "soul detox" really encouraged me. I'm going to share just a summary instead of the whole story.
The author interacts with a depressed guy. The guy has many depressed thoughts that were reflective in his negative words. He didn't believe he was good or anything. The author even asks if the guy had consider killing himself. The guy says that he thought about it. The author on a piece of paper writes "100 reasons to live" and wants the guy to give him reasons why he should live. At first the guy couldn't come up with anything and instead was focusing on his negative words about himself. The author refused to allow the guy to keep talking down about himself and because of that relentless attitude the guy gave a reason. After that the author wanted reason #2. The guy almost started with negative words again but the author interrupted him. Then the guy ave another reason. Over time the guy gave more reasons and eventually it got to 100.
Years later the guy met up with the author to let him know that he didn't need the paper anymore because the 100 reasons were planted in his heart. Wow! This shows me the power of 1) someone seeing the best in me and 2) not being overly critical of ourselves.
Just felt like sharing this. Hopefully it will encourage someone. :)
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Aww man I remember that happened to me in college ... thought I was going to fail out of school... overslept for class ... couldn't seem to do anything right... just all messed up...just like the guy above who was depressed ... Thats when I was reminded of God ... Didn't have a car but I would walk the 2 miles to church and Put God first and everything else feel in line ...
Thank you Jesus!
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Some quotes from the book "Grace" by Max Lucado.
"To accept grace is to accept the vow to give it."
"Grace is not blind. It sees the hurt full well. But grace chooses to see God's forgiveness even more. It refuses to let hurts poison the heart. Where grace is lacking, bitterness abounds. Where grace abounds, forgiveness grows." (check out Hebrews 12:15)
"As long as the cross is God's gift to the world, it will touch you but not change you. Precious as it is to proclaim, 'Christ died for the world,' even sweeter it is to whisper, 'Christ died for me.'"
"Grace is God walking into your world with a sparkle in His eye and an offer that's hard to resist. 'Sit still for a bit. I can do wonders with this mess of yours.'"
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I must say that in general I'm happy to see a heavy focus in the body of Christ on what grace really means (the totality of it). From Dr. Ramsey's grace teachings to this book I'm reading on grace by Max Lucado I love what I'm reading and seeing!