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Gospel Instruments => Bass Guitar => Topic started by: arthur59 on July 28, 2012, 05:56:16 PM
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I need to know how many newbies would be interested in me posting bass lessons.
I'm not a professional bass player I'm just an average player who don't mind shearing the thing I've learned over the years. ;)
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Sign me up ;D. I need ear training help, breaking down songs. Having a serious problem understanding the chord progression of almost any song.
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Sign me up ;D. I need ear training help, breaking down songs. Having a serious problem understanding the chord progression of almost any song.
You can find some breakdowns here. http://m.youtube.com/user/malthumb (http://m.youtube.com/user/malthumb)
For the most part I've kept it simple.....none of the fancier licks.....just how the song is structured. Add your own spice. Some of these are really old and I haven't added anything in a while.
You can also access the listing of chord charts that JeremyR started a while ago. Hasn't been added to in a while, but there's a lot of good stuff in there.
http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,39645.0.html (http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,39645.0.html)
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Malthumb and Aruther don't forget about all the lurkers. Many may not post but will read and watch the videos. I know both of your both videos helped me a lot I still go back and watch Malthumb's video "You are good" just cause the reference to TLC's song.
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Sign me up ;D. I need ear training help, breaking down songs. Having a serious problem understanding the chord progression of almost any song.
Okay Wesley you want ear training you got it! Stay tuned i'm going to develop an ear training lesson for you. In the meantime i want you to work on your scales, using the number systems! ;)
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I am interested in what you have to share.
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I'm not a "newbie" but I learned a lot from your videos. Looking forward to whatever lessons you post.
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I'm an intermediate but still need help with shout music. Can you help me out?
Thanks
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Okay y'all need to know the scales... by numbers! before we get started.
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Thank God you are back! I learned so much fron you.
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Okay let's get started! Today i'll be teaching you a song by NUMBERS! the song is in Ab, i'm not teaching you the bass lines but the progressions of the song as I hear it. I'll give you the numbers (notes) in three sections. (A B & C) then i will post a short video.
Section A: 1 2 3 #3 1 7 6 2 5 6 3 6 3 6 2 5 1-2 5 1
Section B: #6 6 5 1
Section C: #6 6 #5 5
NOTE! in the key of Ab the 3 is C and the #3 is c# or Db. The 6 is F the #6 is F# or Gb same notes but different names.
Feel free to ask any questions or post any commits, if i cant answer your questions i'm sure someone else here in this bass room can.
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Learning a song by numbers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDJPwSpxjg#)
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Learning a song by numbers ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDJPwSpxjg#[/url])
I played this song in Ab now if the song was transpose to another key THE NUMBERS STAY THE SAME!! GOT IT ?/?
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Hey, you made that real plain, arthur59. If one can't get that, it's gonna be rough. I learned and I'm not quite a newby. Hope you post some more. Thanks.
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Very, very, helpful for me. I finally can play that song all the way thru now and have a better understanding of the progression of the song.
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Hey Barbie & Wesley, this is what I do. I don't know a lot but what I do know I don't mind sharing! :D
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Hey Arthur59. Glad you are back teaching us. That was a good lesson, easy to understand and follow. I look forward to more. Thanks.
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That was good stuff, I'm in the shed. Hey I'm also glad you are back thanks.
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This is an exercise that will help you memorize the degrees (distance from your root note to any other note in the scale your playing) and help you with muscle memory. Use a metronome or drum machine set the tempo at 50 beats per minute and work your way up to 120 bpm preform these exercises in the low register and the high register (above the 12th fret) in all 12 keys...
Just to keep it simple lets start out using the most popular keys in gospel music. Bb Db Eb Gb and F. For example play the exercise starting with the Bb major scale in your low register at 50 bpm working your way up to 120 bpm ?/? then start the exercise over playing your Bb major scale above the 12th fret, then move on to the next scale...GOT IT! ::)
Exercise one( Play the numbers) 1-4-5-2-3-7-6-1
Exercise two(play the numbers) 1-8-4-6-3-2-7-5
That's your assignment for this week! let me know your progress.
We will go over another song by numbers in the next video ;D
Arthur59 8)
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Great lesson, very easy to follow. Thank you sir
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Playing songs by numbers Pt. 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb1D2iOxrQU#)
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Thanks for posting bass lessons again!!
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Great lesson for today. Thanks.
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Thanks again.
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Hey Arthur i think i know "left hand Willie" LOL!!!
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TIME TO CHECK IN!! I NEED TO KNOW ALL THE NEWBIES THAT'S INTERESTED IN THESE LESSONS. I WANT TO KNOW YOUR SKILL LEVEL, YOUR WEAKNESS, YOUR STRENGTH AND WHAT YOU WANT TO LEARN!
THE NEXT FEW LESSONS WILL FOCUS ON EAR TRAINING...THE WAY I HEAR TI!
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I am very interested in your lessons. I currently play at my church on sundays, with Keyboard player feeding me the Numbers as you do in your videos for songs I havent learned yet. I really need to work on filling the spaces between the chord changes. I think my timing is one of my strong points
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I am very interested in your lessons. I currently play at my church on sundays, with Keyboard player feeding me the Numbers as you do in your videos for songs I havent learned yet. I really need to work on filling the spaces between the chord changes. I think my timing is one of my strong points
Okay i'll continue to work with you on"playing by numbers"I want you to work on the assignment that i posted and when your able to play it at 120 bpm (or 100 bpm) let me know...OH YOU HAVE UNTIL SATURDAY TO COMPLETE IT! ?/? ;D
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I'am also very interested in your lessons. As I have stated before I need to work on my shout music. I am benefiting from everything you put up. You are a good teacher I like the way you break things down.
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I'am also very interested in your lessons. As I have stated before I need to work on my shout music. I am benefiting from everything you put up. You are a good teacher I like the way you break things down.
I'll put up a basic shout video :)
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I really need to work on filling the spaces between the chord changes.
Like gruvn_low i to need help with filling the spaces. I know we can use the 5th and the octave but it sometimes does not sound compatible when i use them.
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MOV117 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u71P_zyrezQ#ws)
This is not a bass lesson just a short video that i made about two years ago!... I could make this a lesson, i could ask you to describe what you hear me playing...a scale pattern,a blues pattern,rock pattern a 1 going to the 6 progression, a 1 going to the b5 progression etc... ?/?
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Okay i'll continue to work with you on"playing by numbers"I want you to work on the assignment that i posted and when your able to play it at 120 bpm (or 100 bpm) let me know...OH YOU HAVE UNTIL SATURDAY TO COMPLETE IT! ?/? ;D
On it !
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arthur59, out of curiousity, what fingering do you use for the examples that you gave? Or as a rule?
Starting with middle finger.
6 7-8
3-4 5
1 2
or 7-8
4 5 6
1 2 3 Starting with the pointer finger
Or anther pattern?
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arthur59, out of curiousity, what fingering do you use for the examples that you gave? Or as a rule?
Starting with middle finger.
6 7-8
3-4 5
1 2
or 7-8
4 5 6
1 2 3 Starting with the pointer finger
Or anther pattern?
when I'm teaching someone the major scale i tell them to learn it in one position first,same thing when playing by numbers. The finger pattern start with your middle finger (2) the pattern is: 2- 4 next string 1- 2- 4 next string 1- 3- 4 this pattern works for all the major scales.
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Got it, thanks.
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MOV46E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY7PMvwH6Pk#)
MOV465 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG4I73hivYE#)
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MOV46E ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY7PMvwH6Pk#[/url])
MOV465 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG4I73hivYE#[/url])
Hey gruvn-low this is an example of exercise 1 ( 1-4-5-2-3-7-6-1) above the 12th fret and below the 12th fret @ 120 bpm, in the key of Bb. excuse the string buzzing. Right know I just want you to get used to playing the intervals (numbers) then later we'll deal with adding notes (numbers) to the progressions.
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MOV065 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiADzAE-bxs#ws)
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MOV065 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiADzAE-bxs#ws[/url])
Nice we're playing this song Sunday! i'm enjoying the lessons I sit right next to the keyboard player in my church so I can hear him clearly we he call out the numbers to me.
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Hey gruvn-low this is an example of exercise 1 ( 1-4-5-2-3-7-6-1) above the 12th fret and below the 12th fret @ 120 bpm, in the key of Bb. excuse the string buzzing. Right know I just want you to get used to playing the intervals (numbers) then later we'll deal with adding notes (numbers) to the progressions.
Also get used to singing the intervals,the numbers. Sing: "1-4-5-2-3-6-7-1 - 1-4-5-2-3-6-7-1 sing throughout the day while at work,school,the gym just sing "1-4-5-2-3-6-7-1 1-4-5-2-3-6-7-1"etc...
This is also part of our ear training,singing the numbers! ;)
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Arthur59, why those particular numbers? Are they a catch all for changes that you would most often use?
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This is good stuff! Thank you!
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I know it isn't fair, but I can now play the exercises at the instructed rate. I had an edge since I could already play bass at an advanced beginner level. It was good practice.
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Arthur59, why those particular numbers? Are they a catch all for changes that you would most often use?
The reason for these particular numbers? I just want you to get used to playing and hearing different intervals shapes, and I want your fingers to get used to playing different intervals (numbers) in one hand position.
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I know it isn't fair, but I can now play the exercises at the instructed rate. I had an edge since I could already play bass at an advanced beginner level. It was good practice.
I have some more stuff coming up that you may already know, may be you can help me teach it! :)" each one teach one"
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If you were playing the numbers and singing the numbers like I suggested you should be able to play exercise one (1-4-5-2-3-7-6-1) WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS! TRY IT, IF YOU PLAY THE WRONG NUMBERS (notes) YOUR EARS WILL LET YOU KNOW! ;D
We're going to combine ear training and playing by numbers together :D
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Yeah it's starting to come together.
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These lessons are great arthur59. I'm just learning from you. If I could help anyone, I sure would do it but my skills are limited. Thanks again for your posts.
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I have first one down, second one should be down by practice time tonight. Thanks
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If you were playing the numbers and singing the numbers like I suggested you should be able to play exercise one (1-4-5-2-3-7-6-1) WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS! TRY IT, IF YOU PLAY THE WRONG NUMBERS (notes) YOUR EARS WILL LET YOU KNOW! ;D
We're going to combine ear training and playing by numbers together :D
I've been singing the numbers all day at work I also added a melody to it. When I got home and picked up my bass I played it with no problem. I heard it in my head before I played it on the bass. These lessons are great for bass player that play on Sundays at church. I'm loving the lessons bro, keep it coming.
Thanks!
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Should I play down the scale or up the scale on a six string bass?
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Should I play down the scale or up the scale on a six string bass?
Start with your lowest note and work your way up! once you can play it at 120 bpm then you can move on to the NEXT ASSIGNMENT. :o
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Next assignment: now play exercise one: 1-4-5-2-3-7-6-1 this time play numbers 4-5-7-6 in your lower register ?/? i'm not going to post a video on this you should be able to figure it out!... and come up with your own finger pattern >:( ;D
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Next assignment: now play exercise one: 1-4-5-2-3-7-6-1 this time play numbers 4-5-7-6 in your lower register ?/? i'm not going to post a video on this you should be able to figure it out!... and come up with your own finger pattern >:( ;D
If u cant figure it out let me know :(
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Bass4God, berbie, 5deep, Gemini47 ,Gruvn-low, Kingjames59 ,wesley. After a week I know who my main students are and the lessons will be geared toward you guys.
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I am definitely in, I'm trying to learn all I can. Arthur you make easy to grasp thanks for all you do.
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I'm certainly in. Enjoying it.
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Sweet!
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Cool!!
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At work right now 3 hours to go then I'm on vacation, I'll be in the shed all week.
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At work right now 3 hours to go then I'm on vacation, I'll be in the shed all week.
I'll fill your shed with some bass tools and when you come out the shed you'll be a more knowledgeable bass player! :D
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O.K. let's do this, that is what I'm aiming for.
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Now we're going to work on filling in the space in between the progressions. We can do this by adding the 5th and the 8th (octave), chromatic approach from above or below along with: articulation, tone, rhythm, groove etc.. this is the simplest way to fill in the space.
Our progression for this lesson is: 1-5-6-4-3-2-5. when we play the"1 lets add the 5th & the 8th or the 8th & the 5th with articulation before we play the "5"now lets add the 5th & the 8th or the 8th & the 5th before we play the "6" now lets add the 5th & the 8th or the 8th & the 5th. now play the "4"add the 8th play the "3" add the 8th and play the "2' add the 8th, 5
We can also play the "1" then add 4 #4 before we hit our target number the 5 then play #5 before we hit our target number the 6, then play 4 add the 8th, 3 add the 8th, 2 add the 8th, 5. This is the chromatic approach from above we can also play the chromatic from below, walking down to our target number. Don't forget o add articulation, tone rhythm, groove etc...
Play the progression in the key of Emj for this lesson. Play the 5th & 8th or 8th &5th add the chromatic approach before you hit your target note (number) I want you guys to work on this before I post the video. First play the progression without the added numbers (notes) in one hand position starting at 50 bpm and work your way up to 120 bpm. Then play the progression without the added numbers this time with the low 1- 5-6-4-3-2-5. At 50 bpm and work your up to 120 bpm. Then add the extra numbers in the space between the progression and play it in the LOW REGISTER ! :D
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Excited to practice!
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kingjames59 I know what you mean I'm excited to practice as well.
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Okay guys lets do this, before you pick up your bass to play the progressions get in to the habit of singing the progressions first. Then pick up your bass and play the progressions, if what you were singing sound like what you are playing you should fell like this ;D ;D if not you may fell like this :'( ... but don't worry keep singing the progressions (numbers) and you will start to feel like ;D ;D in no time! This is part of our ear training routine.
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I'm also excited to practice this is stuff I that i can see and hear the results right away
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Okay guys lets do this, before you pick up your bass to play the progression get in to the habit of singing the progression first. Then pick up your bass and play the progression, if what you were singing sound like what you are playing you should fell like this ;D ;D if not you may fell like this :'( ... but don't worry keep singing the progressions (numbers) and you will start to feel like ;D ;D in no time! This is part of our ear training routine.
Starting to feel like ;D ;D LOL!!
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Bass4God, berbie, 5deep, Gruvn-low, Kingjamas,59, Wesley, Gemini47 I want you guys to have this progression as well as filling in the space in between the progressions done before we move on. If any of you are having problems or have a question let me know.
PS: Have this completed by Thursday! and let me know when your done.
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Hey arthur59 I do have a question. I have the progression but as far as the fill ins go do we use the 5th & the 8th to fill in between each progression or just play around with it until we just get comfortable using these fill ins. If this makes any sense this the best way I could communicate what I'm trying to ask.
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Hey Bass4God, play the fill ins in between each of the progressions, use the 8th & 5th in different order you can play the 5th then go back to the 1 you can play the 8th 5th and1 play it in different rhythms, add ghost notes, slides, hammer ons, pull offs, slap, pop, bend the strings any one of these tools (articulate) have fun and groove with it.
This is preparing you for the next assignment! remember guys "Each one Teach One" in Jesus name! if you understand the lessons and your Bro/Sis don't jump in and help. :)
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I'll be in the shed, thanks.
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I am working on it.
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Keep working on it Bass4God & Gemini47, and remember to sing the numbers and play the progression at different tempos and different rhythms. The next assignment will be a TEST! :o to see if you understand this stuff ;D.
I've been invited to play at a three night revival this week so I probably wont post the test until Saturday!
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Keep working on it Bass4God & Gemini47, and remember to sing the numbers and play the progression at different tempos and different rhythms. The next assignment will be a TEST! :o to see if you understand this stuff ;D.
I've been invited to play at a three night revival this week so I probably wont post the test until Saturday!
The keyboard player who invited me to come and play at his church for the revival sent me three songs that his choir is going to sing. Two of the songs I never heard before, I started working on one, this is how it went. I played the song one time through so I can hear the flow of the song. then I played it again,stopping, rewinding, playing, this time listening to the progression ( numbers) and singing the numbers. Then I pick up my bass and started playing the progression (numbers) that I was singing ... let me say this, I learned 3/4 of the song before I picked up my bass! so you know I felt like ;D. Hey guys this number thing really work!
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This lesson is great, although wife is not liking the late night practice times.
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gruvn_low, sound like you need some headphones for late late night practicing.
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I had to take a half day today to shed. Lol
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Just got in from practice and it was great!
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Ditto on the headphones. My wife is working nights at the moment and I'm on vacation. You'll find me in the shed.
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AMEN!!! Keep going Guys!!! I can't wait to start hearing you guys when you post videos!
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For this first test you have to take the progression from the previous lesson and come up with your own bass lines then apply it to this song. I'm not going to play the bass or call out the numbers to you. I'm trying to put you guys in real playing situation that bass players go through when playing for a church. These are thing you don't learn from a "how to play bass for beginners book" this is real talk. Not all keyboard/ organ players are going to be willing to help you learn the songs, and For that reason as a bass player you MUST be able to hear the progression (numbers) for yourself and then add your bass line to it. First listen to the numbers then play just the root notes then add your fill ins. let me know how it turnout. Oh and there's one number you don't here in this song out of the previous progressions (numbers) that I gave you...what number is it? ?/?
MOV47F (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9WcugL2ym4#)
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Hey guys! I was wondering if you can give me a list of things for a beginner on the bass. My cousin is looking to play bass and has no idea where to start. So a list of things would help from experienced bass players.
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Hey guys! I was wondering if you can give me a list of things for a beginner on the bass. My cousin is looking to play bass and has no idea where to start. So a list of things would help from experienced bass players.
Hey allaround, maybe your cousin can start out by becoming a member of LGM, this way he can start asking questing for himself .
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For this first test you have to take the progression from the previous lesson and come up with your own bass lines then apply it to this song. I'm not going to play the bass or call out the numbers to you. I'm trying to put you guys in real playing situation that bass players go through when playing for a church. These are thing you don't learn from a "how to play bass for beginners book" this is real talk. Not all keyboard/ organ players are going to be willing to help you learn the songs, and For that reason as a bass player you MUST be able to hear the progression (numbers) for yourself and then add your bass line to it. First listen to the numbers then play just the root notes then add your fill ins. let me know how it turnout. Oh and there's one number you don't here in this song out of the previous progressions (numbers) that I gave you...what number is it? ?/?
MOV47F ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9WcugL2ym4#[/url])
Iv'e worked on it and i got it. If I had a video camera i would record it and post it but i dont have one. And i think the number that you dont hear is the 5. I can here when it go from the 2 then to the 1 but it sound like after the 2 it should be the 5 then the 1... am i right?
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I didn't hear the 2,3.
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I've got the 1-5-6-4-3-2-5 but I don't get the missing number. The fill-ins work good especially the chromatic walks for this tempo type song. Well at least it works for me.
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I've got the 1-5-6-4-3-2-5 but I don't get the missing number. The fill-ins work good especially the chromatic walks for this tempo type song. Well at least it works for me.
listen to it again, don't play your bass just sing the numbers along with the song.
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I didn't hear the 2,3.
Listen, sing the numbers,listen, listen, listen and sing the numbers (progressions) ;D
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Iv'e worked on it and i got it. If I had a video camera i would record it and post it but i dont have one. And i think the number that you dont hear is the 5. I can here when it go from the 2 then to the 1 but it sound like after the 2 it should be the 5 then the 1... am i right?
Do you think your right? Play it again and listen to and sing the numbers then you tell me are you right. :-X
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Hey guys! I was wondering if you can give me a list of things for a beginner on the bass. My cousin is looking to play bass and has no idea where to start. So a list of things would help from experienced bass players.
At the top of the Bass Forum there is a thread that has been stickied. Here is the link to that thread..... http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,43355.0.html (http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,43355.0.html)
Have your cousin START his or her LGM experience with that thread. It identifies the various parts of the instrument and identifies the notes on the fingerboard and gets into base level discussion of keys and chords.
Then have him start Arthur59's "Bass lessons for newbies" from....the....BEGINNING. If your cousin does that, he or she will be groovin' solidly in no time.
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I've got the 1-5-6-4-3-2-5 but I don't get the missing number. The fill-ins work good especially the chromatic walks for this tempo type song. Well at least it works for me.
The chromatic approach, walking up to or down to your target note (number) is just one tool to add to your bag of goodies experiment with the 5th and 8th (octave) as well and don't for get about "ARTICULATION" articulation is like adding spices to your meat to give it flavor, the meat can be prepared well but without the spices the meat tast...plane. Also don't for get to "GROOVE", the groove is something you feel, you have to know what your doing and feel it, and the people around you have to feel it as well and when that happen... then your groovin! Let's add all these tools to our bags of goodies...hope you guys have a big tool bag because your going to need it with all the tools i'm going to give you. :o
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FYI even though were learning to play by "numbers" it's very important that we learn our note names and be able to find it fast on our fret board. I played with a keyboard player last night who was calling out note names instead of numbers. As gospel bass players we must be able to play by numbers and notes.
My goal is to prepare you for every situation that you may face as a "church bass player" ;)
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I am trying to stop laughing. A keyboard player that wants me to "catch" a song makes me nervous. If he/she walked off like you did I would walk off with them....lol
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I am trying to stop laughing. A keyboard player that wants me to "catch" a song makes me nervous. If he/she walked off like you did I would walk off with them....lol
Arthur59 got jokes! I like the part about left hand willy LOL!!! But you know he's telling us and showing the truth.
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Do you think your right? Play it again and listen to and sing the numbers then you tell me are you right. :-X
yes I think i'm right!
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Hey Arthur for the progression i know it's the 1-5-6-4 then back to the one. Sometimes from the 1 to the 5 i used the 2 as a fill. And to get from the 6 to the 4 i used the 1 as a fill. And sometimes returning to the 1 from the 4 i used the 5 as a fill. Am i going in the right direction?
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After reviewing the song i was able to hear the progression 1-5-6-4-1. I could also hear from the 6 it moves to the 2 where there is a chromatic walk from the 2-3 to the 4 and walked back from the 4-3-2 to the 1.
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Hey Arthur for the progression i know it's the 1-5-6-4 then back to the one. Sometimes from the 1 to the 5 i used the 2 as a fill. And to get from the 6 to the 4 i used the 1 as a fill. And sometimes returning to the 1 from the 4 i used the 5 as a fill. Am i going in the right direction?
"1-5-6-4 then back to the one" ?/? ?/? go back and" LISTEN" again! LISTEN, LISTEN , LISTEN!! I gave you the answer in the previous lesson you just have to listen to the song and play the "NUMBERS" with the right tempo to the song... THE NEXT TEST IS GOING TO BE HARDER THEN THIS! :o
Ps: you almost got it :'(
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After reviewing the song i was able to hear the progression 1-5-6-4-1. I could also hear from the 6 it moves to the 2 where there is a chromatic walk from the 2-3 to the 4 and walked back from the 4-3-2 to the 1.
" walked back from 4-3-2-1" ;) :D. What number dont you here but your ears are pulling you towards it ?/?
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" walked back from 4-3-2-1" ;) :D. What number dont you here but your ears are pulling you towards it ?/?
My answer is the "5"
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I agree with Gemini47 I don't actually hear the 5 but it does seem it does seem to want to resolve there. Gemini47 i hope we are right. ;)
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what I am hearing is 1-5-6-4 then using 2-5 to get back to the 1
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what I am hearing is 1-5-6-4 then using 2-5 to get back to the 1
?/? ?/? :'( go back and LISTEN, LISTEN, LISTEN!... IT GET HARDER AFTER THIS! :o
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My answer is the "5"
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I agree with Gemini47 I don't actually hear the 5 but it does seem it does seem to want to resolve there. Gemini47 i hope we are right. ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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NOTE: Most of the time the "2" wants to resolve to the "5" and the "5" wants to resolve to the "1" The 2-5-1 is a common progression and you will here this in a lot of songs. Get used to herring this progression as a "group"
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Okay guys we're going to continue with the next test.( ear training ) By now your ears should be condition to hearing the numbers. If you had problems hearing the numbers in the last test don't worry keep working at it and before you know it you'll hear it loud and clear. This time I'm not going to give you all the numbers, I'll just give the root number, the "1" and you have to listen to and sing the rest of the numbers with out your bass! ?/? Then write down your answers, post it! when you post it then go back and listen to the song again and if you want to change your answer, go head change your answer, change it as many time as you like, then when you feel confident about your answer just say, " this is my final answer." Try not to cheat by picking up your bass before you post your answer. Now once you post your final answer then pick up your bass and check your self! ;D...Oh the "1" is "B"
MOV480 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0Bq0MTl1rU#)
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1-6-4-5-1 + passing notes
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I'll give you guys a few days to work on this before I give the answer. When you're playing in a live situation with the choir/praise team and other musicians and you (bass player ) don't know the song. you must be able to hear the numbers and respond quickly! One of the test that I'm going to give is going to be timed... you'll have a few min to come up with your answer, it will be an open book test (with your bass in your hands) :D . I'll try to set this up so that most of us can be on line at the same time for this test.
We're not going to rush through, "hearing and playing by numbers" I want to make sure you guys understand this stuff before we move on. we're also going to continue learning how to add "fill ins between the numbers. I recommend using headphone while working on these lessons. ;)
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Keep up the good work my Brother your lessons are helping me tremendously. If I had to describe you in a few words they would be:Genuine, sincere, generous, caring, patient, real! Thanks for all your doing for us.
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Your doing an awesome job with the beginners. you and Sean Byrd should coordinate so that your lessons will lead then right in to his lessons.
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I know I'm late but I want to jump in on these lessons I'll start from the beginning this way I could understand everything that's going on.
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I hear 1 - 7 - 6 - 2 - 5 - 1, I also think I hear the 6 -1 as passing notes walking up to the 2 from the 7. Well that's my take so far.
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Hey Bass4God and barbie,
Keep going over the assignment I want to give the other guys a chance to post there answer before I chime in... 8)
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I'll go with 1- 7- 6 1-3 - 2-5-1 2-5-1
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After listening closer, 1-6-4-5-6,4-5-1+ passing notes
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This is what I hear! :D
MOV492 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-CeoTpjxwc#)
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Arthur i have to honest. This is my first ear training lesson. I tried but unfortunately i could not do this without using my bass. I am probably not on point but i think it is: 1-7-6 8-7-5 3-4-5 4-5-1. I will continue to work on this. I am going to start humming and singing the numbers throughout my day.
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Arthur i have to honest. This is my first ear training lesson. I tried but unfortunately i could not do this without using my bass. I am probably not on point but i think it is: 1-7-6 8-7-5 3-4-5 4-5-1. I will continue to work on this. I am going to start humming and singing the numbers throughout my day.
Don't worry your not the only one having problems hearing the numbers were going to back up and take it slow, I know what you need!! ;) ... I'm not going to rush through this, I want to make sure you guys have this before we move on.
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After listening closer, 1-6-4-5-6,4-5-1+ passing notes
:D :D
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Thanks for understanding. I am determined to get this. Thanks.
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Yeah I agree this ear training is a journey I have never really walked into. I'm just used to listening to a song over and over and over and over, well you get my point until I think I've come up with a decent bass line or progression. Only now I see how much I really have to learn. I've got a long road ahead of me, but hey I'm in for the long haul.
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Yeah I agree this ear training is a journey I have never really walked into. I'm just used to listening to a song over and over and over and over, well you get my point until I think I've come up with a decent bass line or progression. Only now I see how much I really have to learn. I've got a long road ahead of me, but hey I'm in for the long haul.
Like my brother Bass4God i am in this for the long haul.
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Hey guys there are two ways we listen to music: "passive listening"- hearing - without hearing and "Active listing"- listing for details. From this point on every time you listen to music make it "ACTIVE LISTING" lets listen for details of the song, is the song going from the "1" to the "4" or from the "1" to the "6" do you hear the "2-5-1 progression or the '4-5-1 progression etc... playing by ear is a skill just like reading music is a skill. Don't think just because you play by ear there's no work behind it. You have to know what to listen for and how to listen. There's musicians who learned the skill of reading music but can't play by ear because they didn't learn how to. And there's musicians who learned the skill of playing by ear but never learned how to read music. The point is learning to play by ear is a skill and we have to know how to develop it.
Some of you are still having problems hearing the numbers (progressions) so from this point on we're going to K.I.S.S (keep it simple stupid) and approach this from a different angle. We'll work with smaller units first then go on to bigger and more challenging ones. THERE'S NO RUSH! step by step, we'll take this journey. "EACH ONE TEACH ONE", IN JESUS NAME :)
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Feel flat on this lesson, even when i had a progression down, I talked myself out of it. I will not let slow to catch on lead to stop trying. again thank-you for these great lessons.
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Hey arthur59 I'm committed to this I want to take my playing to the next level so pull out the tools so I can get into the shed. I do want to be a more knowledgeable player.
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Feel flat on this lesson, even when i had a progression down, I talked myself out of it. I will not let slow to catch on lead to stop trying. again thank-you for these great lessons.
Don't worry about being slow to catch on, if you don't understand the lessons let me know I'm sure I can break it down to make it more comprehensive... Just don't give up! :)
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These lessons are very helpful. Thanks so much for posting them. Personally, I look forward to every one, and from the responses that I have seen, many do and are indeed beeing helped by them.
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Don't worry about being slow to catch on, if you don't understand the lessons let me know I'm sure I can break it down to make it more comprehensive... Just don't give up! :)
No give up here, i knew this was my biggest weakness. Will be putting in OT in the woodshed
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I'm loving the lessons bro!!keep it uo=p
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I'm loving the lessons bro!!keep it uo=p
Keep it up :-[
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I committed two hours a day to work On the lesson one hour in the morning and one hour in the evening seems to work well for me. everything I listen to now I find myself listening for the numbers then I pick up my bass and play it to see if I'm right!
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I need someone to check me! I'm in my car heading home with my family I'm about 3 hrs away from home. A song came on the radio, put it on the altar by Jessica Reedy I never played this song before so I'm sitting here playing the song in my head and singing the numbers (progression) and what I hear is: 1-3-6 2-5-1 can someone check me and see if I'm right. ::)
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I need someone to check me! I'm in my car heading home with my family I'm about 3 hrs away from home. A song came on the radio, put it on the altar by Jessica Reedy I never played this song before so I'm sitting here playing the song in my head and singing the numbers (progression) and what I hear is: 1-3-6 2-5-1 can someone check me and see if I'm right. ::)
after listening to it on youtube here at work, that is what I hear and it makes sense but being right is a whole other thing ;D
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1-3-6-3-2-5-1
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1-3-6-3-2-5-1
AW MAN BERBIE I MISSED THE 3!! :'( I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO IT WHEN I GET HOME :'(
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after listening to it on youtube here at work, that is what I hear and it makes sense but being right is a whole other thing ;D
Thanks gruvn_low this is what we have to start doing, listen to the song QNE TIME and try to catch the numbers (progression), even if you don't catch the whole thing. If the few numbers that you catch are right and you start playing it on your bass a lot of times - the number that you didn't catch - you will hear it when you start playing. You can also make an educated guess. most of the time the 3- would lead to a 6, the 6 would lead to the 2.The 2 would go to the 5. The 5 would lead to the 1
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Here's a few common progression that you will hear in gospel music: 1 3 6 2 5 1. 1 7 6 2 5 1. 1 2 3 4 5 1. 1 4 5 1. 1 4 5 6 4 5 1. 1 4 5 6 4 5 1. 1 4 5 2 5 1. 1 7 3 6 2 5 1. These are just a few!
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Hey, I had my stereo and my guitar.
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AW MAN BERBIE I MISSED THE 3!!!! :'( I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO IT WHEN I GET HOME :'(
I listened to it to day and i also hear the 1 3 6 3 2 5 1. I cheated, i used my bass Lol!!
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I listened to it to day and i also hear the 1 3 6 3 2 5 1. I cheated, i used my bass LOL!!
Sugerbear i ain't mad at you. I would have done the same... LOL... I am still working on it.
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I hope I am not making the process to difficult for myself, but I am trying to recognize the progressions going up the scale and down the scale which have their own unique characteristics.
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Now we're going to focus on some of the most common progressions in gospel music. We are going to break them up into three notes per group and each group will start with the same root note. So that we are all on the same page lets begin with the Db major scale, so Db will be the root note (the "1")
For this lesson we're going to work with two groups. Group one is: 1-7-6 and group two is: 1-4-5. I want you to play group one for a minimum of 10 minutes a day. Don't just play it but listen to the group of notes as a whole. Come up with your own rhythm, feel, tempo etc...
Then work on group two for a minimum of 10 minutes a day. Don't just play it but listen to it as a whole and come up with your own rhythm, feel, tempo etc..
Remember we are not going to rush this, ear training takes time to master and we are going to master it one step at a time. In a few days I'm going to post some songs with the : 1-7-6 and the 1-4-5 progression and" YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR THE PROGRESSIONS LOUD AND CLEAR"...only if you put in the work. >:( ;D
PS: on the 1-7-6 progression I want you to play the low 7 and 6.
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Thanks for breaking it down like that, I'm on my way to pick up Big Mamma, oh sorry I mean my bass right now. Yeah that's what I named her.
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1-7-6 and 1-4-5. bite size pieces that we can chew on and digest. Cool!!
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I also want you guys to spend a minimum of 10 min a day working on listing to the sound of the major interval shapes. Don't just play the major scale but listen to the sound of each interval in relation to the root note ( the "1") lets stay in the key of "Db major"
Play the 1 then play the 2 (major 2nd) listen to that sound what does that sound remind you of associate that sound with a color any color you like. Then play the "1" and the 3 (major 3rd) listen to that sound, what does that sound remind you of. Associate that sound with a color. Then play the "1" and the "4" ( perfect 4th ) what does that sound remind you of, associate that sound with a color. Then play the "1" and the 5 ( perfect 5th ) associate that sound with a color. then play the "1" and the 6 (major 6th ) add a color to it what does that sound remind you of. Then play the "1 and the "7" ( major 7th )...... then play the "1" and the "8" ( perfect unison )
Don't rush this pay attention to the details of the sound of each interval and compare the sound with each other. Compare the 1 and the 2 with the 1 and the 3. compare the 1 and the 3 with the 1 and the 6 etc...
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WOW!! I've been listing to the radio all day at work and I've been hearing the 1-7-6 and the 1-4-5 progression in a lot of songs. It's amazing what you hear when you know what to listen for.
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Yes YES...this is what I need!
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POP QUIZ! ;D put away your bass and open your ears. Y'all been working on two sets of progressions for 10 minutes a day for a few days. Now I want you to tell me which song has what progressions ?/? yo'll hear other progressions and passing notes ( fill ins) in the songs but I want you to concentrate and LISTEN for the progression that you worked on. The songs are not in the same key that you been practicing in (Db) and it really doesn't matter, just listen for the progression... sing the numbers!! then Post your answers. :-X
MOV49B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EAuPEOaJP4#)
MOV49C (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRf5prWWQoY#)
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I'm at work, but I'll be on it as soon as I get home.
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NO BASS ALLOWED!! PUT YOUR BASS BACK ON THE STAND!! JUST LISTEN AND TELL ME WHAT YOU HEAR! ::) ::)
MOV49D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fsbO4R35l0#)
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O.K. been home for a few minutes and have not picked up my bass. The song by John P. Kee I hear the 1-4-5, The song We're Blessed in the City I here the 1-7-6. O.K. how did I do?
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WHAT DO YOU HEAR? ::)
MOV49F (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IFps97luBQ#)
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Okay Mr 59!
you think your slick, I got you!! LoL!! I just want to listen to these songs a few more times before i post my answers.
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Alright can we go with the 1-7-6 on the third song, now how did I do?
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Alright can we go with the 1-7-6 on the third song, now how did I do?
I just sent you a P.M :)
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In contemporary gospel music you'll hear a lot of "FAT CHORDS AND PASSING NOTES". A keyboard/organ player can take a 1-7-6 chord progression and add some fat chords to it. But if you listen carefully, in between those "fat chords" you can still hear the 1-7-6 progression.
When your learning a song for the first time you want to listen for the "root notes in the progressions" before you start adding: colors, fill ins, passing notes, arpeggios etc...
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POP QUIZ! ;D put away your bass and open your ears. Y'all been working on two sets of progressions for 10 minutes a day for a few days. Now I want you to tell me which song has what progressions ?/? yo'll hear other progressions and passing notes ( fill ins) in the songs but I want you to concentrate and LISTEN for the progression that you worked on. The songs are not in the same key that you been practicing in (Db) and it really doesn't matter, just listen for the progression... sing the numbers!! then Post your answers. :-X
MOV49B ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EAuPEOaJP4#[/url])
MOV49C ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRf5prWWQoY#[/url])
the first one kind of through me off a bit but after listing to the details I can hear the 1-7-6 and on the second song I can definitely hear the 1-7-6 progressions. It helps when you know what to listen for. Now on to the other two.
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arthur59 I do believe I hear the 1-7-6 in all the songs you posted. How close am I?
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Once you guys post your answers go on and pick up your ax, your big mamma, your brown sugar, your partner, your BASS!! and check yourself. After you guy post your answer continue working on the same progressions and the sound of your interval shapes. In a few days I'll give you guys the next set of progression to work on. Between then and now I might just throw in another "POP QUIZ"!!! ;D
PS: This should be "hilarious" I got this idea from Bass4God. What are some of the names you guys call your bass...He call his "Big mamma", I call mines "BROWN SUGAR" ;D and you call yours...
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1-4-5 in Donnie McClurkins song I think I hear the 4 and 5 as passing tones in John P. Kee's song. I hope I'll eventually get the hang of this.
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Jesus Is Love. Ab scale run backwards. 8-7-6-5-4-3-2-8
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498- 1-7-3
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Songs 1, 2, and 3 has the 1-7-6 progressions and song 3, has the 1-4-5 progressions, HOW YOU LIKE THAT MR 59! ;D
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Okay guys the answer is 1-7-6 for the first two songs the third song has the 1-4-5 progression and the forth song has the 1-7-6 progression. Pick up your bass and play along with the songs. The next set of numbers I want you to work on is: 1-3-6 and 2-5-1. You know the routine, a minimum of 10 minutes a day, different rhythms, tempos etc... Continue working on the previous sets of numbers as well. Ear training is a continuous process WE ARE TRAINING OUR EARS TO RECOGNIZE A CERTAIN GROUP OF NUMBERS.
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This has changed my approach to learning songs. I need to listen for the progression before the key.
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Is song 1 in the key of F#/Gb?
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Is song 1 in the key of F#/Gb?
F# and Gb are identical in pitch but written differently according to the key in which they occur (Enharmonic) when playing by numbers it doesn't matter which one you use for your root note.(the "1") Pick up your bass and play a 4-5-6 in F#. Then play a 4-5-6 in Gb...same sound right? Now if you use note names the 4-5-6 in F# would be: B-C#-D# and in the key of Gb the 4-5-6 would be: B-Db-Eb...
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Man, I blew the last ones very badly. I can only say that I was being distracted by my grandkids when I was doing it, but that's no excuse. I'm gonna look them over again.
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Songs 1, 2, and 3 has the 1-7-6 progressions and song 3, has the 1-4-5 progressions, HOW YOU LIKE THAT MR 59! ;D
i keep getting a 1-7-3 on the first song, then 6-2-b2-1.
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I get an 8-7-6-5-4-3-2-5-8 on the Jesus Is Love song.
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mo49C 1-7-6, 1-2-3(as a change)
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Hey Berbie, we're breaking these song down into little pieces the only numbers we're listen for are the 1-7-6 and the 1-4-5 we're not worrying about the other number right now. I added two more sets of numbers to work on the 1-3-6 and the 2-5-1.
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I got you, Arthur59. I just need to listen a little closer and stay in parameters and learn those well. I am listening to the songs posted again without my bass to get a better handle on the tones in my mind and to verify the progressions. I'll also be ready for the next lessons. The lessons are very informative and helpful.
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I also want you guys to spend a minimum of 10 min a day working on listing to the sound of the major interval shapes. Don't just play the major scale but listen to the sound of each interval in relation to the root note ( the "1") lets stay in the key of "Db major"
Play the 1 then play the 2 (major 2nd) listen to that sound what does that sound remind you of associate that sound with a color any color you like. Then play the "1" and the 3 (major 3rd) listen to that sound, what does that sound remind you of. Associate that sound with a color. Then play the "1" and the "4" ( perfect 4th ) what does that sound remind you of, associate that sound with a color. Then play the "1" and the 5 ( perfect 5th ) associate that sound with a color. then play the "1" and the 6 (major 6th ) add a color to it what does that sound remind you of. Then play the "1 and the "7" ( major 7th )...... then play the "1" and the "8" ( perfect unison )
Don't rush this pay attention to the details of the sound of each interval and compare the sound with each other. Compare the 1 and the 2 with the 1 and the 3. compare the 1 and the 3 with the 1 and the 6 etc...
YOU SHOULD BE DOING THIS EVERYDAY AS PART OF YOUR EAR TRAINING ROUTINE.
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Should we work on the 1-3-6 and the 2-5-1 separately or together,like so 1-3-6-2-5-1
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Learning the progressions without a bass in my hand is a game changer, wow!
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Should we work on the 1-3-6 and the 2-5-1 separately or together,like so 1-3-6-2-5-1
Separately...for now!
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Learning the progressions without a bass in my hand is a game changer, wow!
If you can hear it before you pick up your bass your way ahead of the game....are you starting to hear it Kingjames?
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I missed a couple days of practice but I still put in my 10 min. once before I went to work and again before I went to bed. I'm sticking with it I won't turn back.
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Hey I'm still wait to here what some of you have named your bass. :) :) :)
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I missed a couple days of practice but I still put in my 10 min. once before I went to work and again before I went to bed. I'm sticking with it I won't turn back.
Bass4God,you don't need your bass to practice ear training. You can sing your interval shapes, you can sing the progressions we're working on, you can listen to the radio and see if you can recognize the progressions that we work on,have fun with it ;)
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MOV117 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u71P_zyrezQ#ws[/url])
This is not a bass lesson just a short video that i made about two years ago!... I could make this a lesson, i could ask you to describe what you hear me playing...a scale pattern,a blues pattern,rock pattern a 1 going to the 6 progression, a 1 going to the b5 progression etc... ?/?
Sound like your going from the 1 to the 4 on this one and i also hear the 2-5-1
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Hey I'm still wait to here what some of you have named your bass. :) :) :)
I have a fender jazz bass and I call her "Music" ;D
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I got you arthur59 I listen to music all through out the day listening for the progressions.
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I got you arthur59 I listen to music all through out the day listening for the progressions.
Are you hearing the progression we worked on while listen to music?
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Yeah I do, however because I am new to this learning experience it seems to be hit and miss, a few songs I picked up on the progression right away. Then there are others I seem to struggle with. Hopefully it will get better over time.
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POP QUIZ!! >:(, ;D just two questions. This song has two sets of progressions that we're working on. Question #1 listen closely and name the progressions. DON'T USE YOUR BASS, USE YOUR EARS! The song has two parts to it, the verse and the chorus they both have the same progressions they just change keys. Question #2 what's the interval shape of the key change? where does it go, to the 4,5,b5 etc... sing the intervals and tell me what's the number it goes to.
Listen closely to the piano in the verse, you can hear the progressions ( numbers) very clearly... That's the whole song, you should be able to play this whole song in your head by numbers before you pickup your bass.
When learning a song you want to listen to the keyboard/organ/piano player for your progressions and listen to the drummer for the groove. ;)
PS: POST YOUR ANSWERS BETWEEN NOW AND 09/12/12
MOV4A0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJd36P1-454#)
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Yeah I do, however because I am new to this learning experience it seems to be hit and miss, a few songs I picked up on the progression right away. Then there are others I seem to struggle with. Hopefully it will get better over time.
IT WILL! :D :D
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Alright arthur59 am hearing the 1-3-6 but not quite sure about the walk to but I'll take a stab at it. how does the 1-7-6 sound or I maybe a little confused about what you are asking.
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Alright arthur59 am hearing the 1-3-6 but not quite sure about the walk to but I'll take a stab at it. how does the 1-7-6 sound or I maybe a little confused about what you are asking.
I'm asking you to name the progressions and name the key change. The verse starts on the "1" then on the chorus it changes to the what? the verse and the chorus share the same progression but in a different key... I hope that make sense ?/?
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The progressions to this song has two sets of the following numbers. set one (1-4-5) set two( 1-7-6) set three (1-3-6) set four( 2-5-1) which two sets of numbers do you hear in this song ?/?
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I am going to throw myself into this one. I think the progression is a 1-4-5 with a 1-7-6 off each root. $790.07
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The progressions to this song has two sets of the following numbers. set one (1-4-5) set two( 1-7-6) set three (1-3-6) set four( 2-5-1) which two sets of numbers do you hear in this song ?/?
I hear
set two( 1-7-6)
set four( 2-5-1)
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I can't get it I only hear the 1-3-6
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Man this one is right in my face. 1-7-6-2-5-1 and I didn't pickup my Jezebel. on the key change I would say the interval shape is a 4th when i get home I'll pick up my Jezebel and play this song and see if i'm right. And "Jezebel" that's the name i call my bass, because she so seductive ;D
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I hear 1-7-6 in several keys. After he plays the 1-7-6, he plays a 6-7. ( 1-7-6---6-7-1-7-6)
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From the choices that you gave i can hear the (1-7-6 ) and (2-5-1) and when it change's keys i can still hear the (1-7-6) and (2-5-1) but in a different key.
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arthur59 where you at man I need you.
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arthur59 where you at man I need you.
I'M here!
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I didn't answer the question fully. Back to the drawing board. I know that if you are going to the four, you use a 2-5-1 of the four, but I didn't hear that. I will listen for it.
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I keep hearing the 1-3-6 so why am I not hear what some of the others are hearing. I just don't hear the other progressions at all. This going to be tougher than I thought. O.K. pride is out the window I need help.
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Guys, after you post your answers go head and pick up your bass and play along with the song. Take your time and listen as you play along. Be one step behind the song as you play along so you can hear what's going on in the song.
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I keep hearing the 1-3-6 so why am I not hear what some of the others are hearing. I just don't hear the other progressions at all. This going to be tougher than I thought. O.K. pride is out the window I need help.
First make sure your bass is tuned. Now just listen to piano part during the verse of the song. listen to that part over and over again. Now pick up your bass and play along with the piano part staying one step behind the piano part. Play what you think it is and see if that sound matches what you hear the piano player is doing.... WAIT A MINUTE!! PICK UP YOUR BASS AND PLAY THE 1-3-6 THEN TELL ME WHAT NOTES YOUR PLAYING! ::)
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Guys, after you post your answers go head and pick up your bass and play along with the song. Take your time and listen as you play along. Be one step behind the song as you play along so you can hear what's going on in the song.
What key are you in?
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The song starts in Bb the notes are Bb-D-G then it goes to the key of Db and the notes are Db-F-Bb.
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The two sets of of progressions would be the 1-3-6 and the 1-7-6 I hope I got it this time.
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Best I can hear is a 1-7-6 in Bb and up a mnor third to a 1-7-6 in Dd. Back and forth with the extra 6-7s+ thrown in.
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Best I can hear is a 1-7-6 in Bb and up a mnor third to a 1-7-6 in Dd. Back and forth with the extra 6-7s+ thrown in.
The 1-7-6 is correct, there's another set of numbers that we worked on that your missing, forget about the 6-7s + that you hear what's the other set of numbers that you hear ?/? go back and LISTEN. ::)
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The two sets of of progressions would be the 1-3-6 and the 1-7-6 I hope I got it this time.
Keep working on your interval shapes and listen to the sound of the: 1 to the 3 and the 1 to the 6(high 6 and low 6) and the 1 to the 4 and the 1 to the 5 and the 1 to the 7 ( high 7 and low 7) and the 1 to the 8 and the 1 to the 2. take your time and listen to the shapes, listen,LISTEN, LISTEN, YOU WILL START TO HEAR IT! :o ...YES YOU WILL!
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Hey guys, I'm going to take a walk over to the other room here in the LGM building and see if I can get a" PROFESSIONAL" to stop by and shed some more light on this ear training issue...STAY TUNED, I'll BE BACK, WITH THE PRO! :)
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We think you're a professional, Arthur59.
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We think you're a professional, Arthur59.
Most of what i learned about the number system, adding color to a simple bass line and "how to listen for the numbers in a chord progressions I learned from you.
Thank you!
Mr59, the pro!
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Hey guys, I'm going to take a walk over to the other room here in the LGM building and see if I can get a" PROFESSIONAL" to stop by and shed some more light on this ear training issue...STAY TUNED, I'll BE BACK, WITH THE PRO! :)
I put my request in, just waiting for a response... ::)
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Arthur59, I know for sure that you have at lease 5 more bass players who's following your lessons . They just don't want to post anything but you are helping more people " newbies bass player" then you know, and your explaining the lessons very well.
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I put my request in, just waiting for a response... ::)
Okay he didn't get back with me :(...we'll move on! :)
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POP QUIZ!! >:(, ;D just two questions. This song has two sets of progressions that we're working on. Question #1 listen closely and name the progressions. DON'T USE YOUR BASS, USE YOUR EARS! The song has two parts to it, the verse and the chorus they both have the same progressions they just change keys. Question #2 what's the interval shape of the key change? where does it go, to the 4,5,b5 etc... sing the intervals and tell me what's the number it goes to.
Listen closely to the piano in the verse, you can hear the progressions ( numbers) very clearly... That's the whole song, you should be able to play this whole song in your head by numbers before you pickup your bass.
When learning a song you want to listen to the keyboard/organ/piano player for your progressions and listen to the drummer for the groove. ;) !
PS: POST YOUR ANSWERS BETWEEN NOW AND 09/12/12
MOV4A0 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJd36P1-454#[/url])
The answer is 1-7-6 and 2-5-1 in the key of Bb, then it change keys. The interval shape of the key change is a flat 3rd ( minor 3rd ) Db! then its 1-7-6 and 2-5-1...in Db!
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When transcribing songs for ear training don't chose difficult material. Begin with simple songs and develop from there. Traditional gospel music is a good place to start, you can hear the progressions very clearly. With contemporary gospel the progressions are there but it's a little harder to hear because of all the different chord tones that's being used. ;)
Thank all you guys for the feedback on the lessons, those that post and those that send me a pm ( about 10 others) glad to know that these lessons are helping you. :)
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It's a little struggle but it I'm still in the game. I too have learned so much from your lessons.
Thank Yoy Sir
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Hello everyone...first of all Thanks Aurthur59, your lessons are beginning to get a little clearer, now that I have learned the fingering for a couple major scales...secondly, I'm playing a six string, and the fingerings are a bit different, I've been trying to follow along as if it were a 5 string but i think its making it more difficult for me....Its getting a little better but at times I feel lost, its like I can hear what needs to be played but my fingerrs end up somewhere else, what do you suggest, should i remove the b string for now?...in case you are wandering why I have the 6 string my hands are very big my pinky to thunmb stretch is 10.5 inches, from bottom of my wrist to tip of middle finger is 10 inches....and its very difficult for me to hold 4, and some 5 string basses...Man I don't know what to do
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can you make them downloadable?
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aurthur59 what'ts in your bag of lessons for us this weekend. I'm excited to see what you have for us.
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Hey, Arthur59. You done spoiled us now. We all got our basses in our hands and are watching the computer screen.
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Amen to that, I am having lesson withdrawals I need my dose of lessons to keep me going.
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Sorry guys I've been working late hours this week :'( but don't worry, the next lesson is coming up soon. :D
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SATURDAY NIGHT JAM!! :o A good bass player react to their surrounding when making music in a group. This interaction can only happen if you are able to LISTEN to the other musicians while you are playing your bass. By transcribing music you will internalize the sound you focus on, and your ears will begin to control your hands. Your ears will hear and your hands execute. The process of developing ear-hand coordination can be a SLOW one. As your ears improves so will your ability to "HEAR" when playing in a group. Be patient with yourself. Be persistent
Here's a two chord progression, first listen to the progression without your bass then pick up your bass and lay down a solid "GROOVE" start with just the root notes then add the fill ins that we worked on from the earlier lessons. You will feel like your part of the band with this track, have fun! ;D
MOV4AC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdhGh7fB5fk#).
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IT'S GOING FROM THE 1 TO THE 4. THE "E" TO THE "A". AND I'M GROOVEIN WITH IT. SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE!!! :D
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I agree, I'm gruvin' to the gruv. ;D ;D ;D
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1 up to 4 then 1 down to 4
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Yes! it's starting to come together now!
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The answer is 1-7-6 and 2-5-1 in the key of Bb, then it change keys. The interval shape of the key change is a flat 3rd ( minor 3rd ) Db! then its 1-7-6 and 2-5-1...in Db!
Arthur i apologize for chiming in late but i have a question. The flat 3rd progression change is that what i am hearing around 2:12 minutes into the song?
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Arthur i apologize for chiming in late but i have a question. The flat 3rd progression change is that what i am hearing around 2:12 minutes into the song?
Yes it is.
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Lets take a look at adding "arpeggios" to our bass lines. Arpeggios are built from scale tones, a major scale has 7 notes 8 if you count the octave 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 if you take the odd numbers: 1-3-5 from the major scale and played them one note at a time you would be playing a Major arpeggio, or a major triad. If you take the odd numbers 1-3-5-7 and played them one note at a time you would have a major 7th arpeggio.
Stay tuned more to come...with video examples :o
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Lets take a look at adding "arpeggios" to our bass lines. Arpeggios are built from scale tones, a major scale has 7 notes 8 if you count the octave 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 if you take the odd numbers: 1-3-5 from the major scale and played them one note at a time you would be playing a Major arpeggio, or a major triad. If you take the odd numbers 1-3-5-7 and played them one note at a time you would have a major 7th arpeggio.
Stay tuned more to come...with video examples :o
Keep them coming my friend this is where i need to get better. looking forward to the video and our next assignment.
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Bring it on teacher, bring it on. I'm looking forward to it.
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playing inverted arpeggios. What is inverted arpeggios you ask! well it's just taking the notes of the arpeggio and playing them in different order. If we played the "D" major7 arpeggio: D- F# -A -C# ( 1-3-5-7) that's called the "root position"because the "D" is the root note of this major7th arpeggio. Now if we take that root note and place it at end of this major7th arpeggio we would have: F#-A-C#-D (3-5-7-1) this is called "1st inversion." Now if we take that first note after the root and placed it at he end of this major7th arpeggio we would have: A-C#-D-F# ( 5-7-1-3 ) this is called 2nd inversion. now if we played C#-D-F#-A (7-1-3-5 ) this is called 3rd inversion. Now we have 4 different ways to play a D major7 arpeggio.
This video will deal with the "root position" I'll be playing the D major7th arpeggio with two octave: 1-3-5-7, one octave then 1-3-5-7 two octave. Start at 50 bpm then work your way up to 250 bpm :o the real goal is 100 bpm but if you can play it at 250 then drop back down to 100 bpm... :D The next video will be on the 1st inversion. :)
MOV4C2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyqGzJT7pew#)
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ROOT POSITION = 1-3-5-7
1ST INVERSION = 3-5-7-1
2ND INVERSION = 5-7-1-3
3RD INVERSION = 7-1-3-5
ALL = MAJOR7TH ARPEGGIO
EACH INVERSION WILL START AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON THE FRET BOARD.
START EACH EXERCISE AT 50 BPM ON YOUR METRONOME OR DRUM MACHINE PLAY IT 7 TIMES STRAIGHT WITH NO MES-SUP BEFORE MOVING TO THE NEXT HIGHER BPM. AT EACH HIGHER LEVEL PLAY IT 7 TIMES BEFORE MOVING TO THE NEXT....
THE GOAL IS TO PLAY IT 7 TIMES STRAIGHT AT 250 BPM... THE TRUE GOAL IS 100 BPM BUT IF YOU STARCH YOURSELF TO 250 BPM THEN WHEN YOU COME BACK DOWN TO 100 BPM YOUR MUSCLE MEMORY SHOULD BE ON AUTO PILOT AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY THIS EXERCISE AND READ A PASSAGE IN A BOOK AT THE SAME TIME... OR AT LEASE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE AT THE SAME TIME. :o
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250 bpm!! well if you say so, your the teacher and where the grasshoppers :D :D
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I think the best way for me to approach this is to play one octave at a time. I'll work my way up to 250 bpm...::) using one octave, then 250 bpm with the second octave then 250 bpm together!
That's how i have it plan in my head! now i have to get my fingers to go along with the plan LOL!!
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Hey, Arthur59, you put us to work this time. I can play that run at 50 beats per very easily. 250, man I don't know. My fingers might not do that, but I am taking it as a challenge. I'll let you know how I came out. Quick three note runs are somewhat a problem for me. For example, I have trouble playing runs such as the "I'll take you there" bass run.(Staple Singers) I have to skip a note. (or "Honky Tonk" by James Brown)
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I think the best way for me to approach this is to play one octave at a time. I'll work my way up to 250 bpm...::) using one octave, then 250 bpm with the second octave then 250 bpm together!
That's how i have it plan in my head! now i have to get my fingers to go along with the plan LOL!!
I know what mean sugerbear. My mind is telling me I can do it! 250 BPM NO PROBLEM! BUT MY FINGERS ARE TELLING ME "HOLD ON THERE, DON'T LET YOUR MIND SPEAK FOR ME I'M HAPPY AT 50 BPM".LOL!!!!
Anyway we wanted more so he gave us more. Thanks Mr59.
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I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. I will keep everyone posted on my progress.
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150 beats per minute is not too bad, but 250 is still gonna be a reach. I'm after it, Arthur59.
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I'm up to 120 bpm :D I have 130 bpm to go! >:(
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I am up to 120bpm as well, don't remind me of the 130 to go.
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I'm up to 120 bpm :D I have 130 bpm to go! >:(
up to 130bpm!
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70 bpm!
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Made it to 160, whew!!!
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I made it to 120 bpm. Yeah! ;D I am moving forward.
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I made it to 90 bpm, now I'm off to work. Have a blessed day!
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Who will be the first to break the 200 bpm mark!! ;D
" If your mind can believe it your fingers can achieve it" ;)
Imagine how much your confidence level will go up once you hit that "250 bpm mark" 8)
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I can do 200 a couple of tmes, but then I start making errors. I'm kinda stuck at 200.
Still at it.
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145 and I wont go to bed until I hit 160!
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120 BPM 7 TIMES. MOVING ON UP! ;D
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200bpm for 8 reps then I start to mess up around the 9th or 10th rep. I'll keep it here for awhile until I really get it under my fingers.
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up to 175 7x
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I'm having problems at 200! >:( ...but i'll get it! I didn't think i would get this far so soon.
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Hey guys keep up the good work. I'll try to have the next lesson up Friday evening. The next lesson will be on first inversion: 3-5-7-1 starting at the 7th fret on your "B" string.
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Still at 200 bpm, still not as fluent as I would like so I'm spending some time here for a minute.
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All you guys that's trying to hit the "250 bpm mark" but are falling short, keep in mind it's only been 6 days!! ::) and most of y'all are close to it. All of y'all have passed the 100 bpm mark and should be able to play it at 100 bpm with ease... that was the real mission...mission accomplished!! ;D ;D ;D
My metronome only goes up to "250" bpm if it went any higher I would of had you guys shooting for that!! I can play it faster then 250. :o . I'm just trying to get you guys to stretch way beyond the mark, that's how we grow, by stretching.
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I started out at 50 bpm on Saturday September 22 and now on today 9/27/12, i'm upto 220 bpm... wow! I impressed myself ;D
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Okay now that we mastered the "root position ?/? ( 1-3-5-7 ) it's time to move on to the 1st inversion (3-5-7-1 ) Let's play the "3" (F#) on the B string at the 7th fret. Start at 50 bpm and work your way up to 250 bpm ;D. I made a few mistakes in this video but you guys will get the idea. Let me know if you have any questions.
MOV4D8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PKphQnfPUY#)
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DEXTERITY - skill and ease in using the hands. My ring finger is a bit challenged. I am training it to move more fluent with the others. It is stubborn but we are getting there. I can hold down 200 bpm for over 2 minutes but then my ring finger no longer wants to conform.
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You just don't know how much your lessons are helping me!
Thank you! :)
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Next week we will be combing the root position with the first inversion. If you fell like your ready to combine it this week...GO FOR IT! ::)
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Kinda like F# Phrygian.
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150 good, 200, kinda rough. Still at it.
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Made it to 250 with the root position it's kinda rough but i made it. Now i'm at 130 with the 1st inversion I think my fingers are well condition now because i'm moving through this one pretty fast!
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200 pretty good.
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Doing great at 200 but not as accurate as i would like at 250.
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I'm having problems at 200! >:( ...but i'll get it! I didn't think i would get this far so soon.
230!!! NOW ON TO THE NEXT LESSON ;D
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I'm playing the root position and first inversion together at 160 bpm!
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Comfortable at 200bpm I've worked my way up to 220bpm and still at it.
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COMBINE THE ROOT POSITION WITH THE FIRST INVERSION. NO NEED FOR ME TO POST A VIDEO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT TO DO. :)
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I've been doing your lessons this week and all I can say is thanks. I've spent probably $300+ on DVDs and all they show is scales and say practice practice practice without explaining what to practice. I was just playing the same basic notes for 5 years but now I'm putting some runs in the songs I play. You've definitely helped me.
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SOON WE WILL LEARN HOW TO ADD THESE ARPEGGIOS TO A SONG! :o
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Hey all4hisGlory, I'm glad to know that these lessons are helping you. If I can help one or two people then I know my labor is not in vain. :)
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Yes sir your lessons have been a great help. I have learned so much from your teaching, I can only hope there is more to come.
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Yes sir your lessons have been a great help. I have learned so much from your teaching, I can only hope there is more to come.
we still have 2nd and 3rd inversion to work on then we will apply the major 7th arpeggio to a song. ;)
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On the root i made it to 250 bpm, kind of shaky but i made it. First inversion 220 bpm I combined them together and i'm at 120 BPM!!
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I can hold down the first inversion at 200 bpm for about 40 seconds but before my fingers lose their muscle memory. Working on building consistency for at least one minute.
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Finally made it to 250 bpm, now working on the 1st inversion at 180 bpm and combining the root and 1st at 110 bpm.
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I can hold down the combination of the root and 1st conversion at 200 bpm for about a minute and a half. I am not done yet.
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We played the root position 1-3-5-7, first inversion 3-5-7-1 and now the second inversion 5-7-1-3. Keep in mind we're still playing the DMj7 arpeggio.
MOV4E6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FukdpBJr-M#)
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This is the last inversion of the D Major 7th arpeggio, the 3rd inversion ( 7-1-3-5 ) starting on the B string at the second fret.
MOV4EB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnTT7zX2cxQ#)
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USE IT OUR LOSE IT!
Now you have 4 option to use when your playing a "Major 7th arpeggio. We worked with the "D Major 7th arpeggio but you can apply the same finger pattern to any major 7th arpeggio. FIND A SPOT TO USE IT IN EVERY SONG YOU PLAY! IF YOU DON'T USE IT YOU WILL LOSE IT!
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Thank you. I understand what you have done, is there a simple song you can us as a demonstration.
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I'm still here teacher, just been busy. I'll be back in the shed this week. I love all the lessons, I thank God for you.
Thanks for all you do.
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Thank you. I understand what you have done, is there a simple song you can us as a demonstration.
I'ii put up a simple song soon but for now play all four inversion together at 100 bpm 4 times. After you have completed that than start the whole presses over again, this time in a different key. ;)
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I was invited to play at an afternoon service today at a church I never played at before. I try my best to follow the keyboard player but I couldn't. I was listening for the progressions and every time I though I had it I didn't!!! the keyboard player was playing some fat chords and he was allover the keyboard and my ears couldn't grab hold of what he was doing. So I started to play solo...solo that they couldn't hear me. :(. You win some and you lose some this time I lost... but the battle is not over I will rise again!! :)
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Man, that can be kinda rough if you never heard the songs and/or the way the keyboardist played them plus they followed no discernable pattern. Some of the contemporary music keyboardists can come up with the weirdest chords, even for a known song. Even to the point that you don't recognize the song. I don't envy your day at the program. I can play lower than solo. It is a key called Bb-voiceless.
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Iv'e been in that situation a few times myself. If i can't hear the the progression and the keyboardist is not telling me anything i just wont play for that song.
I'm playing all four inversions at 200 bpm!
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Been in the shed all week, all inversions at 180 BPM. I'm still waiting for that song oh teacher.
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I haven't posted for a while but I am still here. I have all inversions under my fingers. We're waiting on you, teach. If I keep this up, I might actually learn to play the bass.
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Amen to that berbie I might start to sound like I know what I'm suppose to play.
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I didn't forget you guys, i just had a very busy week.
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Okay Bro we understand. You got to take care of your home first, then us second ;D lol!!
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Waiting for the teacher to step back into the classroom with the next lesson, ;D... I would like to post this question, I'm looking purchase some type practice tool that plugs into a wall outlet, that comes with a usb port for downloading songs from my computer, that loops, and has a metronome, any suggestions? I currently practice thru a yamaha mix board when my computer is on, but there are times when I get home from work(12:30a.m.) and would just like to practice by just plugging this ?? into a wall outlet, tune, and go. Like to keep the cost under $175.00. Thxs in advance.
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does the tascam trainer or the korg pandora do the above? I don't own either so i am not certain hopefully someone else can give a better answer
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I need to learn my scales every one in house can read music and know scales except me im the dad I know no excuse but every time try to learn I get bored and cannot bring myself to learn need help
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Since the scales are all the same pattern, it is easy to learn the note location of them if you want to. It is not at all necessary to know them but it is good to know them. Choose the scale pattern that you want to use and start on, say Eb on the B string. Play the scale pattern slowly watching which fret you are playing and say aloud the note that it happens to be. You would say: Eb-F-G-Ab-Bb-C-D-Eb Speed kills on this practice routine, so take your time. Play it over and over, forward and backwards. Write it out on some staff paper, or make note of it on preprinted charts.
It won't be very long before you will know those notes and where they are on the staff. Then add another key. Start out with the keys that you play most. I most often use the patterns below. Starting on the B string. Eb-F then on the E string G-Ab-Bb then on the A string, C-D-Eb. Or Eb-F-G on the B string and Ab-Bb-C on the E string then D-Eb on the A string. Start on any key and play the equivalent pattern and you are playing in that key.
Having a good knowledge of the circle of fourths helps because the bass(five string) is set up exactly like the circle of fourths.
Personally, when I play the bass, I'm just playing patterns. So even though I know the notes fairly well, lack of use causes me to get rusty on them. I know that the more experienced bass players here would use them more.
No hurry and saying the notes out loud are important. 15 minutes a day will do wonders.
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arthur59 where are you. I hope everthing is well with you. You are missed sir.
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Can you do a tutorial on FRED HAMMOND AWESOME GOD . WOULD BE A BLESSING .
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arthur59 where are you. I hope everthing is well with you. You are missed sir.
Everything is well with me thanks for asking. I'll be back soon! ;)
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8) best news i read all day
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Amen to that, I'm happy to hear all is well. We will be awaiting your return.
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Amen to that, I'm happy to hear all is well. We will be awaiting your return.
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Still enjoy your teaching it has helped me tremendously, glad to see you back.
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Im a newbie I have a 4 string bass i need help on ear trainning ect.......can anyone help me?!!?!! ;D :o ?/? :)
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Im a newbie I have a 4 string bass i need help on ear trainning ect.......can anyone help me?!!?!! ;D :o ?/? :)
You can start with this thread from the beginning it will help you.
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Im a newbie I have a 4 string bass i need help on ear trainning ect.......can anyone help me?!!?!! ;D :o ?/? :)
and don't hesitate to ask question if you don't understand something in a video we will help you get it
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I need to get a new video camera because mines broke. If anyone would like to donate one to me I would greatly appreciated ;D
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I need to get a new video camera because mines broke. If anyone would like to donate one to me I would greatly appreciated ;D
send me a pm and i will give you my mailing address. ::)
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what kind did you have before?
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I had a JVC Everio. If you watch my last couple of videos you would notice that it was zooming in and out and doing all kind of Crazy things on it's own LoL! Then it just died out :'(
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Hey bro I understand... I thank you!
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I am new
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Newbie here...I am starting from the top
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Take your time and enjoy the process of learnin this stuff . ;)
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Just found this forum... really diggin' it! Especially this lesson thread. Thanks authur59 for sharing and teaching. Be blessed my friend.
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You're welcome :)
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Hello, hope everyone is doing well. :D
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WOW THOSE WERE THE DAYS!!
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Merry Christmas good to hear from you, I'm still here are you back to teach again.